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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip Her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, we always love getting this man on the show.

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Speaker 2: I mean when One Direction first came out.

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Speaker 3: What I mean talking nine years ago, close to nineteen

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Speaker 3: years ago, we always came into our studio for the

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Speaker 3: very first time.

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Speaker 2: This man who's got a brand new single out. It's

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Speaker 2: called Stack It Up. You're about to hear it in

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Speaker 2: a second. But Liam Payne, welcome back mate.

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Speaker 1: How's you going?

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Speaker 3: Oh, very very good mate, Thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: chatting to us. Greetings from Australia. Do you miss this place?

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Speaker 2: Be sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got very fond memories of Australia. But I

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Speaker 1: hope to come back at some point. But it just

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Speaker 1: seems to have been a.

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Speaker 3: I know Sarah actually just took Nicole Scherzinger up on

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Speaker 3: the bridge climb Liam and took her over the bridge.

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Speaker 2: She freaked out. It was a bit high for her.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love the bridge claims. I've got such good memories.

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Speaker 1: I mean the jumpsuit's a bit excessive, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever warn to jump suit?

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Speaker 3: Have you had any fashion disasters over the years When

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Speaker 3: you look back when you first started your career, Liam

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely Jesus. I've definitely had a lot of fashion disasters.

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Speaker 1: I mean where I'd go most wrong on the fashion

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Speaker 1: sometimes maybe dodgy haircut.

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Speaker 4: Why isn't it?

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Speaker 1: I mean that that that crap stays with you forever

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Speaker 1: because obviously the internet now, so you just can't really

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Speaker 1: get away from it.

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Speaker 2: What were you in high school? What did you? Did

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Speaker 2: you have tips in high school? What did you do

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Speaker 2: with your hair?

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Speaker 1: Did I have tips in high school?

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Speaker 2: Do you the very ind of your head.

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Speaker 1: I could confirm I definitely didn't have.

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Speaker 2: No T I p with a P.

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Speaker 1: People, No I didn't.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I didn't have I didn't have tips

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Speaker 1: in high school. I mean I had like the typical

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Speaker 1: like justin Bieber haircut. I feel kind of everybody goes

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Speaker 1: through that stage, like long like surfery, I don't care

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean, it's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: places to surf in Warbhampton as many as there are

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Speaker 1: in Australia. But yeah, it was that was that was

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Speaker 1: my go to for school.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Babes, you came out to defend him the

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Speaker 4: other day, do you reckon? It's pretty courageous what he's done,

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Speaker 4: isn't it coming public with all of his struggles, Because

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Speaker 4: I mean, so many artists and you would have seen

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Speaker 4: this over the years, so many artists have to you know,

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Speaker 4: have to hide away the truth of what they're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to come out with those

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Speaker 1: kinds of things online, I think, and in my from

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Speaker 1: my perspective, I definitely don't condone any of the things

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Speaker 1: that he did because there was you know, there was

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Speaker 1: a moment where he had just been absolutely outrageous or

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Speaker 1: some things. But you know, to come clean and admit

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Speaker 1: to a lot of that sort of stuff and then

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Speaker 1: try and show where you're going not rather than you know,

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Speaker 1: where you've been sort of situation. I think it's good.

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Speaker 1: And the thing for me was, you know, I stick

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Speaker 1: up for all kinds of causes and different things and

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Speaker 1: whatever else. But the difference for us as a band was,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had I had four of the brothers

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Speaker 1: who were going through exactly the same thing, and we

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Speaker 1: always kept each other grounded. So that's a different thing.

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Speaker 1: Whereas the Babes, I mean, he was just on his own, really,

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Speaker 1: wasn't he. You know, all this money, all this fame

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Speaker 1: and power, and you know, it's a difficult thing even

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Speaker 1: being the boss in that situation, like we always struggled

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Speaker 1: as kids to realize that we were in charge. Is

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Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility, and you don't really learn that

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Speaker 1: responsibility until you're older. So you know, I think, I

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Speaker 1: just think people can cut him a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a break he's had. You know, he's been very fortunate

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Speaker 1: and he should be extremely grateful for everything he has

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Speaker 1: and has managed to achieve. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: that road's never easy.

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Speaker 3: Was there any decisions looking back where you thought maybe

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Speaker 3: we were too young to make that call.

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 3: Now that you're you're a bit older and you can

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Speaker 3: you can say that maybe it was the wrong call.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think we had phenomenal people around

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Speaker 1: us at the time. I think, you know, the time

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Speaker 1: when when when everything got most sketchy for me was

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Speaker 1: when I became a solo artist, because the responsibility is

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Speaker 1: more on you and I I mean, I just hadn't

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Speaker 1: really figured out who the hell I was, so, you know,

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Speaker 1: being stuck in this position and then you can't really

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Speaker 1: put there's no eject button there they stop button. You

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Speaker 1: can't just turn it off, which just led me to

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Speaker 1: make him a load of stupid decisions really on a

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Speaker 1: number of different things are going up. Yeah, exactly, and

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Speaker 1: it's just you know, you do it in front of

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Speaker 1: in front of the world's media, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: owe we're all to ourselves to help them out a

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Speaker 1: little bit more as everybody's just trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: one make a living and two provides some entertainment in

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Speaker 1: a dark world sometimes, so we'll speak speak sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about tips or.

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Speaker 2: Tips speaking of them.

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Speaker 4: And Harry Styles did say the other day he didn't

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Speaker 4: think you guys could. He'd love to get back together,

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Speaker 4: but he didn't think you could because you're all so different. Now,

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Speaker 4: do you feel the same.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a bit of a loaded question of that. Yeah, sorry, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I mean, I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen, you know, or heard from Harry in

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Speaker 1: quite some time now, actually, which is fine. You know,

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Speaker 1: everyone deserves their space. I think it's good, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just really grateful more than anything that you know,

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Speaker 1: we are literally the first band to have each member

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Speaker 1: be very successful in their own rights as it's really cool,

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Speaker 1: which is phenomenal. But at the same time, would I

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Speaker 1: like to get back together, Yeah, definitely. Know I've been

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Speaker 1: very open about all that sort of stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't fear the success that was

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Speaker 1: One Direction. I think it was awesome. Whether or not

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Speaker 1: we're two different now, I don't really know. I don't

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Speaker 1: see why there's no common path we can't kind of

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Speaker 1: meet on.

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Speaker 4: I think, don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I think he meant definitely, but no, no, no, But

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Speaker 1: I'm talking musically as well. I mean, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: still a common link between our stuff. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: would have been me kind of coming back across the

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Speaker 1: stuff that I've done, because I mean I've done literally

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Speaker 1: every single genre going at the moment except for like

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Speaker 1: smooth jazz with I mean, I don't think that Harry's

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Speaker 1: a million miles away from what One Direction sounded like.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's still got a lot of

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Speaker 1: the characteristics of it. It's just a more grown up

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Speaker 1: version and also maybe a little bit more rockier. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like Nile's the most suited to

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Speaker 1: like where One Direction sit. Like I always felt like

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Speaker 1: Slow Hands we could all kind of do together in

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Speaker 1: a concert, which is cool. Yeah, I don't see why

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Speaker 1: there's any reason why we can't. But if that's the

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Speaker 1: way he well, sir, that's kind of looked to him.

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Speaker 3: Really well, mate, we're absolutely loving it, loving it and

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Speaker 3: we love I mean, we met you very young when

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Speaker 3: you first came over to Australia for one direction, liamb

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Speaker 3: and we've had this relationship. We've seen you grow up

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Speaker 3: with tits and it's just been emerging to see where

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Speaker 3: you come to.

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Speaker 1: When you hit that few of these things like what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen?

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Speaker 2: We're so proud. Well, Liam, thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: coming on the show, Buddy, thank you very much.

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