1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: This is what the Flux. I'm Brettan, I Justin and 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, the eighteenth of December. Josey Boy. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Ossie's are seemingly pulling back on their Christmas spend despite 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Westbac talking about confidence coming into the market. According to Finder, 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: the average Ossie plan to spend over thirteen hundred bucks 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: on Christmas this year, which is actually an eight percent 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: decrease on spend from last year. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Interesting day man, now, flex dam. We've loved being with 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: you in your ears every single week while you're making 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: a coffee, jumping on the train, even pumping some iron. 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Just a quick reminder, this will be our last week 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: of the pod for twenty twenty four, but don't you worry. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: We'll be fit and firing back on January twentieth, twenty 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. So if you're looking for some financings, bow 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: over the summer break and make sure to check out 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the Flux app. Your badgeting needs, your subscription tracking, and 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: especially a whole lot of content. Make sure to download 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: the Flux app and check it all out. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: Three revolutionary stories today, Juzzy Boy, let's do it for 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: our first our sick is suing HSBC the global banking 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: giant after it alleged that HSBC Isustralia failed to protect 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: its customers from long running scam. 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Really telling HSBC, who's bossyv Man? So tell me more. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, HSBC is the British based financial services group that 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: was founded in eighteen sixty five, and. 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Be man, it's actually the largest europe based bank by 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: total assets with more than get this two point nine 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: trillion US dollars now. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Back in nineteen eighty six, HSBC was granted an Australian 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: banking license and be man, who did. 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Some digging And we don't know how many customers they 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: have in Australia, but. 33 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: They have been ranked as the best international bank in 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Australia for ten years. 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: In a row. But maybe not so much lately. 36 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Now you see jazy boy Asik the corporate watchdog, he's 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: a barking hard at HSBC. 38 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Yep, they're claiming that HSBC didn't respond quick enough to 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: customer complaints about scamsp. 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: It's believed that nine hundred and fifty HSBC customers last 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: about twenty three million bucks as a result of these 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: spoofing scams, and as part of this campaign, the fraudsters 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: disguise their phone number so that it appeared in the 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: same text chain as legitimate HSBC messages. And assek alleges 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: that it took HSBC one hundred and forty five days 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: to investigate some of these reports, and. 47 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: They manned this is big news because the first time 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: that ask has held a financial institution to account over 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: these scams. Wow. So what is the key learning here? 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: The responsibility of preventing scams might finally shift away from 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: individuals to financial institutions and does boy this could result 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: in an enormous shift in priorities for banks. Yeah. According 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: to the hriple c, Australians lost two point seventy four 54 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: billion dollars to scams in twenty twenty three. 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Wowwe But Asse's lawsuit against HSBC argues that financial institutions 56 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: should take more responsibility for protecting their customers. 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Even when scams involve customer errors like sharing their own 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: personal details. 59 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: So jazyboy. If ACSEC wins, it could set a new 60 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: precedent in the financial services space. 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: And they man, you can be sure that if banks 62 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: are required to cover these costs, it will definitely change 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the investment that they put into solvent. So this case 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: has a lot riding on it, not just for HSBC, 65 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: not just for HSBC customers, but for all banks and 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: all customers across the state. 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: For our second story, Premier Investments, the owner of Peter 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Alexander and Smiggle, recently launched its retailers in the UK, 69 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: but is struggling to hit the mark so far. 70 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Big News feels like Premier Investments is one of the 71 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: only retailers that actually performs year in. You're out, so 72 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: tell me more so, Juzzy Boy. 73 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Premier Investments is the as existed retailer that launched back 74 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty seven. 75 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: It's the owner of some major Australian brands like you JJ's, 76 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: You're Just Jeans, You're Portland's your Dotty, the Juzeboy. 77 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: The duel in the crown is Smiggle, the stationary store, 78 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: and also Peter Alexander. 79 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: The retailer that made sleep wear fashion. 80 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: And Premier also owns chunks of Brevel and Mayer. 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Now be Man. A few months ago, Premier made the 82 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: big bolt move to expand both Smigle and Peter Alexander 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: to the UK, but it. 84 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: Hasn't been the best of starts. According to the Australian 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: which got access to leaked documents. 86 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: According to these docks, its first three Peter Alexander stores 87 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: in the UK and more than sixty one percent below 88 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: four Car Shack. 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: On top of that, Smiggle is also nearly nineteen percent 90 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: behind four Car and be Man. 91 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's still early days for premier investments. It is 92 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: a sobering reminder for retailers who try to expand overseas. 93 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Ooh interesting call. 94 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: So what is the key learning here? 95 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: International retail expansion is not for the fainthearted retailer, particularly. 96 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: When you're coming from over the ditch in Australia. 97 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: We know that expanding overseas requires a lot of time 98 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: and a significant investment. There's rebuilding a brand, There's training 99 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: up a whole new set of sales stuff who aren't 100 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: necessarily familiar with the brand. There's also finding the right 101 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: location to hat your target demographic. They man many Aussie 102 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: retailers have attempted to expand overseas but come back with 103 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: their tails between their legs. 104 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Your country Road who launched in the US but retreated 105 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: and that was in two thousand and two after they 106 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 2: struggled to make a profit. 107 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: And what our Bunnings. We felled dismally when they opened 108 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: in the UK yep in twenty eighteen. 109 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: They lost about one hundred and sixty five million bucks 110 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: in just six months. 111 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: And then they retreated from the UK, which cost them 112 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: another four hundred. 113 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: Mil So Jesse Boyd Premier will be hoping that it's 114 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: fortunes in the UK turn rapidly and the poppies. 115 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Realize that they need to look fashionable while sleeping. 116 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: For our third and final story, TikTok has got go 117 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: on to the U s Supreme Court to appeal its 118 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: potential ban in the US, which is planned to take 119 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: place on January nineteen. 120 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: D Day is coming for TikTok being man scary times 121 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: for all those TikTok addicts in the US. Yeah, so 122 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: tell me more. 123 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: Well, we know that TikTok has absolutely taken over the 124 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: universe in the past few years. 125 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: It's enabled sounds like give Me My Money and the 126 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Apple Dance to take over. 127 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: It's created new cultural icons like the little Hippo mood Deng. 128 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: It's even shaped language, with demure becoming dictionary dot COM's 129 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: word of the year. 130 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: Because of why, the US government has been concerned about 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: the impact of TikTok's owner, Byteedance on its national security 132 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: for quite a while. 133 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: So earlier this year, the Biden administration warned by Dance 134 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: to either sell TikTok in the US or else, or 135 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: else they would be banned. 136 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 2: On January nineteenth, twenty twenty five, not a broad summer 137 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: for TikTok now. TikTok appealed this legislation to the US 138 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Court of Appeal, claiming it was unconstitutional. After failing in 139 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: the Court of Appeal, TikTok has appealed in the Supreme Court, the. 140 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Highest court in the land. But if this is unsuccessful, 141 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: it would mean it's all over red rover for TikTok 142 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: in the US in early January, and not. 143 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Only would this crush TikTok's business, but also the livelihoods 144 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: of millions of its creators. 145 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: So true, So what is the key learning here? 146 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Many creators are not only questioning the future of the 147 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: TikTok platform, but the future of their businesses overall. 148 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: That's because after spending years building an audience, editing videos, 149 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: and creating a community, it can all be taken away 150 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: in one thousand. 151 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: In fact, it's estimated that small businesses and content creators 152 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: could lose one point three billion US dollars in just 153 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: one month. 154 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: That's according to TikTok, and. 155 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: I also reckon this would increase each and every month. 156 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Of the band. But be man, it's fair to say 157 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: that this band would absolutely ruin Byte down, who will 158 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: lose twenty nine percent of their targeted global ad revenue 159 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. Blux Mam, we'd absolutely loved being 160 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: injuries a recover coffee on the train throughout the whole 161 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four and will be back bitten firing 162 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five January twentieth, to be precise, one 163 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: day after TikTok might be dad. 164 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and we'll see you on for Friday