1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:14,881 Speaker 1: Approject production, you know, lucky like a sati. I like, 2 00:00:15,081 --> 00:00:17,721 Speaker 1: I'm anti it now, but I was. I was. I 3 00:00:17,801 --> 00:00:22,961 Speaker 1: was wanted for a knife attack, which I fight against 4 00:00:23,081 --> 00:00:26,401 Speaker 1: now with my charity. But I was. I tried to 5 00:00:26,441 --> 00:00:30,081 Speaker 1: stab someone they called the old Bill and me I 6 00:00:30,161 --> 00:00:33,161 Speaker 1: was wanted for that. They found me in I went 7 00:00:33,161 --> 00:00:35,641 Speaker 1: on a missing person so a danger person's think where 8 00:00:35,641 --> 00:00:37,001 Speaker 1: they were going to go on TV and say have 9 00:00:37,081 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: you seen this guy? But I was in a petrol 10 00:00:39,441 --> 00:00:44,561 Speaker 1: station in York with with this girl and a guy 11 00:00:44,881 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: held the door open and as he turned round he 12 00:00:48,441 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: see us, and I hope he watches this year. I 13 00:00:50,881 --> 00:00:53,881 Speaker 1: really hope he watches this. He opened the door for 14 00:00:53,961 --> 00:00:55,561 Speaker 1: me and he turned around, took one look at me, 15 00:00:55,601 --> 00:00:58,761 Speaker 1: and let go of the door. And it smacked me. Yeah, 16 00:00:58,801 --> 00:01:01,001 Speaker 1: because I don't know he didn't like, well I looked 17 00:01:01,041 --> 00:01:02,881 Speaker 1: or whatever, but he wasn't holding the door open for me, 18 00:01:02,921 --> 00:01:04,441 Speaker 1: but he was holding it and then he released it 19 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:06,681 Speaker 1: after he looked at me, and it smacked me. Yeah, 20 00:01:06,961 --> 00:01:10,041 Speaker 1: and I said, I said wait for me outside. I 21 00:01:10,121 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: played for the petrol. Yeah. I was in this car. 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,321 Speaker 1: So I was. I was a lump then I was 23 00:01:15,401 --> 00:01:17,881 Speaker 1: I was absolutely massive. I was a unit and I 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,121 Speaker 1: was in this tiny little Pergo two six quite in 25 00:01:22,161 --> 00:01:25,881 Speaker 1: his car. But this guy outside he gets in his car. 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,121 Speaker 1: He had an alpha a male, a purple out for 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,601 Speaker 1: a male. And he gets in his car and as 28 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I've gone walking towards him, he goes like this, locks 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: his car and smiles, Yeah, like he's safe in his car, 30 00:01:38,121 --> 00:01:41,881 Speaker 1: like cocky. I started smashing. I started punching the windows. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I kicked the door in. He didn't know what was 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,561 Speaker 1: going and I'm trying to handle. He started driving off. Yeah, 33 00:01:47,561 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: and I'm hanging onto the car. Yeah, he's driving off. 34 00:01:51,321 --> 00:01:54,441 Speaker 1: He's literally not waiting for no traffic. Mate. I'm telling 35 00:01:54,441 --> 00:01:59,481 Speaker 1: here it is stupid, stupid, Yeah, because I put so 36 00:01:59,481 --> 00:02:01,361 Speaker 1: many people in danger that day because he just drove 37 00:02:01,401 --> 00:02:04,161 Speaker 1: out in the traffic. I fell off the car and 38 00:02:04,201 --> 00:02:06,841 Speaker 1: as I'm screaming at this guy, I turned around and 39 00:02:06,881 --> 00:02:08,641 Speaker 1: when I turned around, there's a cop There's a cop 40 00:02:08,681 --> 00:02:10,961 Speaker 1: cart sitting there, and the cops were standing there and 41 00:02:11,001 --> 00:02:13,801 Speaker 1: they went, what's going on? I went I turned around 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,921 Speaker 1: and been like to get in the cards chase him. 43 00:02:16,161 --> 00:02:17,881 Speaker 1: And as I've turned around, the cops are standing they go, 44 00:02:17,881 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: what's going on? I was like, uh, and I wanted 45 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:27,441 Speaker 1: and I'm stating there like nothing. They go, we just 46 00:02:27,441 --> 00:02:29,761 Speaker 1: see you keep that car. I said, no, you didn't, 47 00:02:30,401 --> 00:02:33,001 Speaker 1: So you did? I said no. I said he closed 48 00:02:33,041 --> 00:02:34,921 Speaker 1: his door when I was leaning on it, and he 49 00:02:35,001 --> 00:02:37,321 Speaker 1: had my jacket in his car and he took me 50 00:02:37,401 --> 00:02:42,841 Speaker 1: with him. They were like really, I went yeah, and 51 00:02:42,881 --> 00:02:45,041 Speaker 1: then he didn't know that I was attached to his car. 52 00:02:45,081 --> 00:02:48,361 Speaker 1: I don't think, but he's drive off now. And they 53 00:02:48,361 --> 00:02:51,601 Speaker 1: took it. They took it. They went into the petrol 54 00:02:51,641 --> 00:02:53,561 Speaker 1: station and they said, is that guy? Do you know 55 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:55,521 Speaker 1: this guys? I said again, I was in the petrol station. 56 00:02:55,561 --> 00:02:58,241 Speaker 1: I was fine, yeah, And they went in they said, no, 57 00:02:58,321 --> 00:03:00,481 Speaker 1: he's fine. And so now I'm thinking I'm getting nicked. 58 00:03:00,481 --> 00:03:03,401 Speaker 1: I'm getting took from York back to Ipswich. Right, so 59 00:03:04,001 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm kicking off out of this coppers because it's authority 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, mate, what's your problem? Like, let's just 61 00:03:09,281 --> 00:03:11,081 Speaker 1: what's that? Go? Calm down? What can we do? Calm 62 00:03:11,081 --> 00:03:12,881 Speaker 1: me down? So let me go. He said what's your name? 63 00:03:13,121 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: And I went Paul Read? He went, yeah, Paul Read. 64 00:03:18,721 --> 00:03:22,641 Speaker 1: It's because the Read was my stepdad's name, the durable guy. 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,361 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:03:23,921 --> 00:03:26,081 Speaker 1: So whilst he's talking to me, he's doing a check 67 00:03:26,121 --> 00:03:30,761 Speaker 1: on Paul Rigid. Yeah, and there's like nothing. Yeah, there's 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,921 Speaker 1: like nothing for me. So they go all mate off 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,081 Speaker 1: you go. I was like yeah, it was like yeah. 70 00:03:35,081 --> 00:03:36,681 Speaker 1: I was like no mate, had a good day. And 71 00:03:36,841 --> 00:03:38,521 Speaker 1: they've gone YouTube like no more of that, and I 72 00:03:38,561 --> 00:03:39,881 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what we're talking about getting 73 00:03:39,881 --> 00:03:41,921 Speaker 1: a car? And I got off what that was? Me done? 74 00:03:42,081 --> 00:03:43,801 Speaker 1: What I was getting what I was getting took back? 75 00:03:44,241 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Do you do you? 76 00:03:45,801 --> 00:03:49,761 Speaker 2: I get a persona of coppers in England that I 77 00:03:49,761 --> 00:03:51,801 Speaker 2: want to sound like in a bad way, but are 78 00:03:51,841 --> 00:03:52,801 Speaker 2: they all fucking dumb? 79 00:03:54,161 --> 00:03:57,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they're all dumb or they've got that small 80 00:03:58,001 --> 00:04:01,241 Speaker 1: person mentality where they were bullied so they feel like 81 00:04:01,281 --> 00:04:03,441 Speaker 1: they have to lay that authority down and everybody to 82 00:04:03,481 --> 00:04:05,081 Speaker 1: be a you know, because. 83 00:04:05,081 --> 00:04:09,481 Speaker 2: Are here, there's probably any everywhere over the world. Everyone 84 00:04:09,561 --> 00:04:13,081 Speaker 2: laughs at the fucking English coppers because they don't carry 85 00:04:13,121 --> 00:04:16,081 Speaker 2: a fucking gun. They carry they still carry their fucking 86 00:04:16,201 --> 00:04:18,801 Speaker 2: stupid hats on their fucking head. They've still all they 87 00:04:18,801 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: have is the fucking battern and they just get given 88 00:04:21,961 --> 00:04:24,481 Speaker 2: it every fucking day by people, you know what I mean? 89 00:04:24,521 --> 00:04:26,601 Speaker 2: And I don't know it's. 90 00:04:26,401 --> 00:04:29,961 Speaker 1: Like, as as irritating as the police are here, we're 91 00:04:29,961 --> 00:04:32,641 Speaker 1: pretty gifted because, like you say, they haven't got guns, 92 00:04:32,761 --> 00:04:38,521 Speaker 1: they haven't got they haven't got anything. I'm telling you, man, 93 00:04:38,561 --> 00:04:40,561 Speaker 1: I've come across some street of coppers in my time 94 00:04:40,561 --> 00:04:42,121 Speaker 1: where I've been banned the rights and they just let 95 00:04:42,121 --> 00:04:44,321 Speaker 1: me go because I've been too aggressive for him. Do 96 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,481 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They can't manage it. But 97 00:04:49,241 --> 00:04:55,001 Speaker 1: my face went out on the the police data base 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and I want to miss it once a person and yeah, 99 00:04:58,681 --> 00:05:01,281 Speaker 1: I come up as a missing person. So because I 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: come up as a missing person and an urgent person 101 00:05:04,841 --> 00:05:08,361 Speaker 1: to to get off the street because I'd run away 102 00:05:08,401 --> 00:05:10,481 Speaker 1: from a mental institution, I was schizphrenic. Right, Well, you 103 00:05:10,561 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: put up as dangers. Yeah, so I was a danger 104 00:05:13,801 --> 00:05:15,281 Speaker 1: to the public. That's what it was. It was danger 105 00:05:15,361 --> 00:05:21,281 Speaker 1: to the public. Do not approach, just call the police, 106 00:05:22,001 --> 00:05:24,121 Speaker 1: which again I'm not proud of now. But then it 107 00:05:24,201 --> 00:05:27,041 Speaker 1: was awesome because I was like, it was the mentality 108 00:05:27,041 --> 00:05:28,801 Speaker 1: that I wanted everyone to see me to be because 109 00:05:28,841 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I thought that I had respect from everybody. And it 110 00:05:31,761 --> 00:05:35,921 Speaker 1: wasn't that there's no respect on the street. There's nothing. 111 00:05:36,001 --> 00:05:39,361 Speaker 1: It's lonely. You're lonely. As much as you feel like 112 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,241 Speaker 1: you're a part of something big, you ain't. You're nothing. 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,881 Speaker 1: You're just a person that is willing to do. We're 114 00:05:45,841 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more than the next person, and people 115 00:05:48,241 --> 00:05:50,481 Speaker 1: will love you for that, and they'll use you for that, 116 00:05:50,641 --> 00:05:55,161 Speaker 1: and then they'll throw you away. Nobody nothing, You are 117 00:05:55,281 --> 00:05:59,881 Speaker 1: nothing at all, And they put me out on the APB. 118 00:06:00,481 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: I'll come up as like this person, they found me, 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: So I didn't go on the forty eight hour missing TVF. 120 00:06:06,721 --> 00:06:08,961 Speaker 1: We're looking for this person, please find them. So now 121 00:06:08,961 --> 00:06:10,801 Speaker 1: they found me in York, I've had to leave York. 122 00:06:10,841 --> 00:06:13,681 Speaker 1: I've gone back to Manchester. I'm living in Manchester on 123 00:06:13,721 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Moss Side, which was wild wild. Moss Side is a 124 00:06:19,681 --> 00:06:22,281 Speaker 1: is a is a place mate, So I'm over there. 125 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,681 Speaker 2: I actually, I actually when I was when I got 126 00:06:24,961 --> 00:06:27,361 Speaker 2: got my driver's license and I was seventeen years old, 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,361 Speaker 2: my fucking mate dared me to drive to Manchester and 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: go through Moss Side and I remember fucking fucking night 129 00:06:36,241 --> 00:06:39,721 Speaker 2: we got up there, and I swear I just didn't 130 00:06:39,721 --> 00:06:41,201 Speaker 2: think I was gonna like it's like, I don't know 131 00:06:41,201 --> 00:06:42,801 Speaker 2: if you've ever been to Liverpool, and there's a there's 132 00:06:42,801 --> 00:06:45,641 Speaker 2: a place exactly like it called Granby Street, and the 133 00:06:45,761 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 2: fucking it's the same thing. And he dared me to 134 00:06:47,961 --> 00:06:50,801 Speaker 2: do the same thing there, and I fucking stored my car, 135 00:06:51,121 --> 00:06:53,001 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's just like, what the fuck? 136 00:06:54,961 --> 00:06:57,001 Speaker 2: So I know what you're fucking talking about? 137 00:06:57,761 --> 00:07:01,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just madness. But you know who 138 00:07:01,601 --> 00:07:03,401 Speaker 1: you were with everyone there? Do you know what I mean? 139 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,241 Speaker 1: You know where you are with everyone? There is no 140 00:07:05,361 --> 00:07:08,121 Speaker 1: there's no hidden agendas. Everyone is on the same thing, 141 00:07:08,481 --> 00:07:11,881 Speaker 1: which is real dangerous because you've always got people at 142 00:07:11,921 --> 00:07:15,761 Speaker 1: hand to do jobs. So you're just you're never not 143 00:07:15,841 --> 00:07:18,681 Speaker 1: out of trouble. You're always in trouble because if you 144 00:07:18,681 --> 00:07:20,361 Speaker 1: don't stick up for the person in the street, you 145 00:07:20,361 --> 00:07:23,321 Speaker 1: ain't help them in the street, you know what I mean? 146 00:07:23,441 --> 00:07:26,281 Speaker 1: So but did you did you follow suit? O? 147 00:07:26,481 --> 00:07:28,521 Speaker 2: But by being it, by being in that area, did 148 00:07:28,561 --> 00:07:30,761 Speaker 2: you like do you think you know, like with everyone 149 00:07:30,841 --> 00:07:31,961 Speaker 2: else what they were doing, did. 150 00:07:31,841 --> 00:07:35,321 Speaker 1: You follow suit with them? Mate? I didn't listen. I didn't. 151 00:07:35,441 --> 00:07:38,321 Speaker 1: I didn't fall in line with nobody. I didn't fall 152 00:07:38,361 --> 00:07:42,281 Speaker 1: in line with nobody. I I wanted it, I was 153 00:07:42,361 --> 00:07:45,001 Speaker 1: hungry for it. I was bred to be that person. 154 00:07:45,401 --> 00:07:48,201 Speaker 1: So I was always game. It wasn't like do you 155 00:07:48,241 --> 00:07:51,641 Speaker 1: want to come? It was like I'm in, you know. 156 00:07:51,681 --> 00:07:53,681 Speaker 1: I was always I was the game person that was 157 00:07:53,761 --> 00:07:55,521 Speaker 1: ready to go. And that's where I made the biggest 158 00:07:55,561 --> 00:07:59,081 Speaker 1: mistake because I felt like doing more doing doing the 159 00:07:59,121 --> 00:08:03,481 Speaker 1: things that led me to be not so much feared 160 00:08:03,521 --> 00:08:07,481 Speaker 1: but to be unpredictable. Led me to believe that I 161 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:10,201 Speaker 1: had love where it wasn't because I was looking for 162 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:13,001 Speaker 1: something that I never had as a child, and that was. 163 00:08:14,281 --> 00:08:17,801 Speaker 2: You felt wanted by everybody else because of the fact 164 00:08:17,841 --> 00:08:20,161 Speaker 2: that they wanted you for who, what you were, like, 165 00:08:20,321 --> 00:08:22,681 Speaker 2: what you could do for them, and so you felt 166 00:08:22,681 --> 00:08:24,521 Speaker 2: wanted because you didn't get that from your mom or 167 00:08:24,521 --> 00:08:25,561 Speaker 2: your father, you know what I mean. 168 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:29,001 Speaker 1: So it was crazier I was the more people wanted 169 00:08:29,041 --> 00:08:31,481 Speaker 1: me around, you know what I mean. And I thought 170 00:08:31,481 --> 00:08:34,761 Speaker 1: that I was truly I felt like I belonged somewhere 171 00:08:35,241 --> 00:08:39,361 Speaker 1: where I wasn't actually supposed that I wasn't. I didn't 172 00:08:39,361 --> 00:08:43,161 Speaker 1: belong there, you know, because the love from the street 173 00:08:43,761 --> 00:08:49,121 Speaker 1: was the greatest thing ever. When I had nothing, I 174 00:08:49,121 --> 00:08:51,441 Speaker 1: didn't even have my soul, I never had anything. I 175 00:08:51,521 --> 00:08:55,161 Speaker 1: surrendered to everybody around me, and I was willing to die. 176 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:57,201 Speaker 1: I was willing to go to jail. I was willing 177 00:08:57,801 --> 00:09:02,121 Speaker 1: to give up everything on who I was to be 178 00:09:02,241 --> 00:09:05,001 Speaker 1: a part of this society. Do you know what I mean? 179 00:09:05,121 --> 00:09:12,241 Speaker 1: Mean this family, this unit of just security because ain't 180 00:09:12,281 --> 00:09:14,241 Speaker 1: no one touching us when we're together in a group, 181 00:09:14,361 --> 00:09:16,921 Speaker 1: you know. And again it's not it wasn't gang mentality. 182 00:09:16,961 --> 00:09:17,681 Speaker 1: It was family. 183 00:09:18,201 --> 00:09:20,641 Speaker 2: And now where's where's your where's your where's your proper family? 184 00:09:20,641 --> 00:09:22,001 Speaker 2: When this is going on? Though, when you when you're 185 00:09:22,041 --> 00:09:22,601 Speaker 2: in Manchester with. 186 00:09:22,681 --> 00:09:26,321 Speaker 1: Are they they're doing their own thing. My brothers my 187 00:09:26,321 --> 00:09:29,281 Speaker 1: brother was off doing he'sting because he got into drugs 188 00:09:29,281 --> 00:09:32,321 Speaker 1: pretty heavy and he was off doing his thing. And 189 00:09:32,361 --> 00:09:34,561 Speaker 1: my sisters and my mum they're like super close, so 190 00:09:34,601 --> 00:09:37,001 Speaker 1: it's like them, and then it's like me and my 191 00:09:37,081 --> 00:09:39,961 Speaker 1: brother are the the other. We'd get contacted if something 192 00:09:40,081 --> 00:09:43,761 Speaker 1: was going wrong or they needed some cash or something 193 00:09:43,841 --> 00:09:48,121 Speaker 1: would get I'd get the call for the cash, and 194 00:09:48,281 --> 00:09:50,241 Speaker 1: my brother, my brother and me would get the call 195 00:09:50,281 --> 00:09:52,401 Speaker 1: if if they something someone had said something to the 196 00:09:52,441 --> 00:09:54,081 Speaker 1: family would come back and we'd deal with it and 197 00:09:54,081 --> 00:09:55,801 Speaker 1: then go back and carry on with what we were doing. 198 00:09:55,841 --> 00:09:58,361 Speaker 1: You know, what's the worst thing you've done. Well, I 199 00:09:58,401 --> 00:10:02,281 Speaker 1: haven't really done a lot by law of previction, but 200 00:10:03,441 --> 00:10:09,481 Speaker 1: like the alleged crimes, what I've been alleged to have done, 201 00:10:11,161 --> 00:10:11,961 Speaker 1: you know is. 202 00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:30,921 Speaker 3: Allegedly we'll go with allegedly, Yeah, allegedly. 203 00:10:30,641 --> 00:10:36,641 Speaker 1: Allegedly there was you know, guns and the attempted murder 204 00:10:36,681 --> 00:10:42,961 Speaker 1: thing and which I found not guilty on. And what 205 00:10:43,081 --> 00:10:43,481 Speaker 1: was it like? 206 00:10:43,521 --> 00:10:45,321 Speaker 2: What was your stock now like that. 207 00:10:49,961 --> 00:10:51,121 Speaker 1: We should have had this conversation? 208 00:10:53,761 --> 00:10:59,681 Speaker 2: What what what was it like? So allegedly you you've 209 00:10:59,841 --> 00:11:03,841 Speaker 2: you've had weapons, right, You've you've seen weapons before. What 210 00:11:03,921 --> 00:11:07,081 Speaker 2: was it like being that to actually see it? 211 00:11:07,681 --> 00:11:10,681 Speaker 1: Powerful? Powerful? I've only need to I only seen this 212 00:11:10,761 --> 00:11:14,521 Speaker 1: stuff in on TV. And as like when I was 213 00:11:14,561 --> 00:11:16,681 Speaker 1: growing up, I was so naive to the world because 214 00:11:16,761 --> 00:11:19,801 Speaker 1: I didn't think anything happened outside the house because I 215 00:11:19,841 --> 00:11:22,441 Speaker 1: was never allowed out of the house. So when I 216 00:11:22,481 --> 00:11:26,081 Speaker 1: started seeing this, you're progressing so fast in the criminal 217 00:11:26,161 --> 00:11:30,641 Speaker 1: underworld that you become somebody but really your nobody. Like 218 00:11:30,721 --> 00:11:33,641 Speaker 1: there's so there's there's so many levels of criminal and 219 00:11:33,761 --> 00:11:36,281 Speaker 1: in them levels you can be in that same So 220 00:11:36,441 --> 00:11:38,601 Speaker 1: me and you could be in the same level of criminal, 221 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:45,001 Speaker 1: but your version of that criminal could be like your nuts, 222 00:11:45,041 --> 00:11:46,921 Speaker 1: or you'll use a weapon, you'll shoot someone where I 223 00:11:46,961 --> 00:11:49,441 Speaker 1: would kill someone with my hands. You know. It was 224 00:11:49,521 --> 00:11:51,521 Speaker 1: kind of like that. So you can progress in a 225 00:11:51,561 --> 00:11:55,041 Speaker 1: group so much because you don't need to be hard. 226 00:11:55,121 --> 00:11:56,841 Speaker 1: You don't need to be a murderer. You don't need 227 00:11:56,881 --> 00:11:58,241 Speaker 1: to be a tall man, you don't need to be 228 00:11:58,281 --> 00:12:03,361 Speaker 1: a thief. If you're game, you're all the same. Yeah, 229 00:12:03,401 --> 00:12:05,641 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Because if you had 230 00:12:05,641 --> 00:12:10,041 Speaker 1: a specific tool you fight in, or your height, your stature, 231 00:12:10,201 --> 00:12:14,401 Speaker 1: your aggression, your your kindness could talk to someone where 232 00:12:14,441 --> 00:12:16,961 Speaker 1: you couldn't get money off of like, you would all 233 00:12:17,001 --> 00:12:22,601 Speaker 1: be that same value. You're just used a different way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 234 00:12:22,721 --> 00:12:26,441 Speaker 1: And brother, I was used. I was used just as 235 00:12:26,521 --> 00:12:34,881 Speaker 1: much as you were used. And it hurts because but 236 00:12:34,961 --> 00:12:36,121 Speaker 1: what would that what. 237 00:12:38,201 --> 00:12:40,881 Speaker 2: In what way? Do you feel used? Though? Like you 238 00:12:40,721 --> 00:12:42,721 Speaker 2: did you feel used in the way that they've used 239 00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:44,801 Speaker 2: your foot for your ability and for your for your 240 00:12:45,241 --> 00:12:47,161 Speaker 2: what you can do for them? Or do you feel 241 00:12:47,241 --> 00:12:50,521 Speaker 2: used because do you feel like it was a waste 242 00:12:50,521 --> 00:12:51,721 Speaker 2: of years? 243 00:12:52,121 --> 00:12:55,521 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. But at the same time, I can 244 00:12:55,521 --> 00:12:58,401 Speaker 1: say it's a I can say it's a waste of years. Yeah, 245 00:12:58,681 --> 00:13:00,521 Speaker 1: but it's curved me to be who I am today. 246 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:02,441 Speaker 1: And I'm a great man today, do you know what 247 00:13:02,481 --> 00:13:04,281 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I'm a great I do a lot 248 00:13:04,321 --> 00:13:08,521 Speaker 1: today that that showed that that gives real respect and 249 00:13:08,601 --> 00:13:11,721 Speaker 1: strength to my community rather than take it away. So 250 00:13:11,961 --> 00:13:14,041 Speaker 1: it has curved me to be a better person and 251 00:13:14,081 --> 00:13:16,481 Speaker 1: it you know, without that, I probably wouldn't be who 252 00:13:16,481 --> 00:13:20,161 Speaker 1: I am today. So I can thank that as well 253 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:22,361 Speaker 1: as I can still regret it. Do you know what 254 00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:22,721 Speaker 1: I mean?