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Speaker 1: Have I got Teddy Perry there. Hello, Kitty Perry.

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Speaker 2: You are loud and clear as you were with eighty

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Speaker 2: six thousand people yesterday.

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Speaker 1: How are you holding up.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing really well. I was. I was happy for myself.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I was really mobile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an amazing effort. That's a huge effort.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I actually, you know, I saw some

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Speaker 3: things online from some of my you know, really good, amazing,

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Speaker 3: incredible Katie Cat fans. Yeah, and they made some memes

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Speaker 3: of basically like they did a cut, someone did a

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Speaker 3: cut of me jumping around, and then a cut of

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Speaker 3: like what my my child inside me? Feels like it's

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Speaker 3: pretty funny. I appreciate this the I didn't know that

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Speaker 3: there would be so much time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, there's a lot of jokes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to enjoy all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So in essence, they just made a version of what

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Speaker 2: your kid would be dancing like in your stomach.

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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm picturing? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, actually it's this one video on the internet of

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Speaker 3: this group of people that are in a boat that

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Speaker 3: are being thrushed around. Right.

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Speaker 2: I love that idea, But when you look at dances

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Speaker 2: on stage and when you compare you know, big shows.

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Speaker 2: The T twenty yesterday was massive on International Women's Day,

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Speaker 1: The super Bowl was of course huge.

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Speaker 2: But who are the better dancers out of the Sharks

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Speaker 2: or the cricket bats.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a tough one when you want

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Speaker 3: to sign me up to do one of your big

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Speaker 3: sporting events. Shows that are believed is that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to have some interesting characters that come along and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, the world doesn't even know that they

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Speaker 3: need texty cricket bat, sexy.

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Speaker 2: Cricket well, you know, growing up as a kid here

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Speaker 2: cricket bat, it just would have been the sexiest bat

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Speaker 2: getting around.

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Speaker 1: All these years, I've missed the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to my mind.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well.

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Speaker 2: We want to say congratulations, of course on the pregnancy

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Speaker 2: and also never worn white.

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Speaker 1: We're loving the song here.

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Speaker 2: At Nova, but talk about the chance to launch with

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Speaker 2: a baby.

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Speaker 1: How exciting. That's massive?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, I know, I knew I was

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Speaker 3: getting fat. So we're not back. I had I had

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Speaker 3: to really set set it. Yeah, and I just thought,

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Speaker 3: share my love for what I'm going through. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's you know, yeah, yeah, it makes sense, Katie. We're

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Speaker 2: in a situation at home. We are God, what is

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Speaker 2: it today? Two weeks today till the third baby arrives.

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Speaker 2: It's so we've got Ted and Jack five and three

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Speaker 1: So my wife and I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: So and you've got all the great things to look

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Speaker 1: There are so many conveniences.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Parenting advice. I've got all the tips. Here's an interesting

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Speaker 2: one that we did though, because on the first for

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Speaker 2: For the second child, I had a virtual reality set up,

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Speaker 2: But you know what it's like when you go to

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Speaker 2: the obstetrician, They say have you got any questions? And

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Speaker 1: Go pros for a virtual reality setup?

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Speaker 3: And oh yeah, well you know what, she used her own.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like mighty.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good thing is I can now put the

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Speaker 3: It's just for my I mean, actually, you know, I

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Speaker 2: No, well, Katie I I hope you don't remember this,

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Speaker 2: but you came to Sydney one time and FITZI and

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Speaker 2: I decided to reenact your sister's birth. I think FITZI

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Speaker 2: I hope she doesn't remember that, because it was just

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Speaker 2: tack this opportunity five years lauder door Polunchoe.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I have wiped that clear of my memory.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let it go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let it go. Let's move on. We are

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Speaker 3: on the bigger and better thay.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other exciting thing that you can look forward

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Speaker 3: not very vague with uh what I like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my push president is going to be there's

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Speaker 2: Frustrating the wedding plan's going to need to be moved

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Speaker 3: The internet is wild out there. I think we're really

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Speaker 2: Is the panic back home like you would have seen

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Speaker 2: what's going on here with the toilet paper? Is it

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Speaker 3: the hand sanitizer.

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Speaker 3: I think it's all about washing your hands and singing

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Speaker 3: Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 3: I guess so. But you know, just stay, stay clean,

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Speaker 3: No, nothing happened, And we had so much like stock

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Speaker 1: Well, so he was convinced everything was going to shut down?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, coronavirus is a lot different

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Speaker 2: Did your dad then have a garage style to clear

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my dad has a garage every week.

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Speaker 1: I love this guy. I love this guy. Oh that

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Speaker 2: Well here's what I'm thinking, right, I mean, I've given

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Speaker 3: You know, he has all of the catalog, and you

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Speaker 3: I also don't need hunting love it.

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Speaker 2: this next year, right, Mark's twenty years since you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I wouldn't call that my first hit.

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Speaker 1: But no, not your first hit, first released music.

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Speaker 3: But when you think a gospel singer, Yeah, when.

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Speaker 2: You think about that and when you launched your career

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Speaker 3: Still nerve wracking? Is it when when when you put

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I still nerve racking, and I definitely

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Speaker 2: I love that I've opened up and I've shared something.

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Speaker 2: and are they are they friends or yeah?

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Speaker 3: Of course friends and co workers. And I've got incredible

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Speaker 3: management that I've had my whole career. And you know,

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Speaker 3: my team at Universal is important. Everybody's part of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there is definitely like some strategy you

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Speaker 3: what's come first? And we've always done that because you know,

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Speaker 3: it is the music business. It's not just music. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a conversation. It's collaborative in that way. But you

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Speaker 3: know I get to be the writer and the captain

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Katie. We love.

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Speaker 2: Never made the passenger steering this. You've got this under control.

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Speaker 2: We love having you in the country, Katy Perry. And

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that I've been able to help out with

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Speaker 2: your baby decisions. And also I'll organize long or Richie

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Speaker 2: to I'll sort that out for you.

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Speaker 3: Like I like you've managed people on the side because

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Speaker 3: you're really good at this.

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Speaker 1: Although anything you need yeah, well, with your rights probably

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Speaker 1: about two percent.

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Speaker 2: I'd be happy with that, but anybody last up, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you Katy Perry. We love having you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Great to chat all right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I explain bye bye. It's Sydney spits in with overa