1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apoche production. 2 00:00:16,401 --> 00:00:20,081 Speaker 2: So we moved to Townsville and I got clean and 3 00:00:20,401 --> 00:00:22,721 Speaker 2: he just wouldn't right, So he was telling me that 4 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: I need to get clean. 5 00:00:23,481 --> 00:00:25,241 Speaker 1: It was just this fucking mess. 6 00:00:26,001 --> 00:00:30,521 Speaker 2: And it was almost like the most messiest human being 7 00:00:30,521 --> 00:00:32,761 Speaker 2: that I've ever been with was the one that just 8 00:00:32,841 --> 00:00:35,121 Speaker 2: kept knocking on my door own ganteah, you need to change. 9 00:00:35,161 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: Something needs to change, and you need to change it. 10 00:00:38,241 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you need to come with me, right. 11 00:00:40,161 --> 00:00:43,081 Speaker 2: So I was still trying to make somebody else responsible 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: for it, and then one day I was sitting in 13 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:51,601 Speaker 2: fucking Bentley in this girl's house who I brey knew, 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,481 Speaker 2: who had stolen my handbag with all my jewelry in it, 15 00:00:55,601 --> 00:00:58,521 Speaker 2: my fucking passports, my everything. She took everything of mine 16 00:00:58,681 --> 00:01:01,441 Speaker 2: while I was asleep on the couch without a blanket. 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: And I woke up and I sat there and I 18 00:01:04,321 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: didn't even need to in the mirror. I just knew 19 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:08,721 Speaker 2: that this is not where I wanted to be. And 20 00:01:08,761 --> 00:01:10,441 Speaker 2: I looked around me, and the night before there'd been 21 00:01:10,441 --> 00:01:12,601 Speaker 2: all these other people there, and I just these people 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: don't have a different life, and I don't belong here. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,321 Speaker 1: What the fuck am I doing? Wake up? For yourself. 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: So with my two dollars fifty on my card that 25 00:01:21,801 --> 00:01:24,241 Speaker 2: I still had, I got on a fucking train. I 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,241 Speaker 2: went home to my unit with which I had with 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,321 Speaker 2: my eggs, and I sat down and I went, I 28 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: locked that. Actually I locked myself in the bedroom. I 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: didn't talk to him or anything because we fucking we'd 30 00:01:35,801 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: punching on and all. 31 00:01:36,601 --> 00:01:38,081 Speaker 1: Sorts of stuff. So it was really bad. 32 00:01:38,601 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: And I rang Mom here and she's in She moved 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: from Newtown to Wollongong ten years ago, and I said, Mom, 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,201 Speaker 2: I've got to come home. And for me, that was 35 00:01:48,321 --> 00:01:50,121 Speaker 2: if I ever made the choice to reach out to 36 00:01:50,161 --> 00:01:53,641 Speaker 2: my family, that was it. There's no going back, there's 37 00:01:53,681 --> 00:01:56,961 Speaker 2: no half passing this shit. You've got to fucking make 38 00:01:57,001 --> 00:01:59,561 Speaker 2: a change. And I'm in my late forties and I'm like, 39 00:01:59,681 --> 00:02:00,921 Speaker 2: fucking what am I doing? 40 00:02:01,361 --> 00:02:01,641 Speaker 3: All right? 41 00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:02,961 Speaker 1: So I'm either going to die. 42 00:02:03,601 --> 00:02:07,201 Speaker 2: I'm going to die here doing this, and then I'm 43 00:02:07,201 --> 00:02:10,161 Speaker 2: going to leave my dad behind. Like all of a sudden, 44 00:02:10,241 --> 00:02:13,561 Speaker 2: this this the selfishness that had masked all of this. 45 00:02:14,401 --> 00:02:16,561 Speaker 2: Something changed in me and I went, I can't do 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,681 Speaker 2: that to my father. He's lost two wives because my 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: stepmom died as well. He can't bury his daughter as well, 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: Like I've got to at least wait until he you know. 49 00:02:24,881 --> 00:02:26,641 Speaker 2: So I did, and I got on the next flight 50 00:02:26,721 --> 00:02:29,601 Speaker 2: with my next doll check and went to REHAP down 51 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:33,161 Speaker 2: in Wollongong. And I didn't need to go to stop drugs, 52 00:02:33,161 --> 00:02:35,881 Speaker 2: because that wasn't the fucking problem. I needed to go 53 00:02:36,001 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: there to figure out what the fuck made me keep 54 00:02:39,161 --> 00:02:41,521 Speaker 2: choosing this stuff and running away from myself, Like what 55 00:02:41,601 --> 00:02:44,321 Speaker 2: was I so fucking afraid of? And to be honest, 56 00:02:44,361 --> 00:02:47,121 Speaker 2: I was afraid of life, that life was going to 57 00:02:47,121 --> 00:02:49,041 Speaker 2: disappoint me, and that if I showed up and I 58 00:02:49,081 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: did life, that I was gonna, you know, it was 59 00:02:51,401 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: gonna get taken away from you again, that I was 60 00:02:53,321 --> 00:02:56,441 Speaker 2: going to lose everything, and that, you know, that easy 61 00:02:56,441 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: option of wanting someone else to fix you and fix 62 00:02:59,001 --> 00:03:01,761 Speaker 2: what's going on inside of you. It's it's not. It 63 00:03:01,761 --> 00:03:05,041 Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. I stopped taking drugs in March 64 00:03:05,601 --> 00:03:09,361 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. I moved into my own place in Marilla, 65 00:03:10,321 --> 00:03:12,121 Speaker 2: got a unit. I had a job. We shall Harbor 66 00:03:12,161 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: City Council. And you've been a jewel Yeah, I make jewelry. 67 00:03:16,721 --> 00:03:19,041 Speaker 2: My real mom who passed was Golden silver spearths. She 68 00:03:19,121 --> 00:03:21,721 Speaker 2: left me all this stuff and I've carried that around 69 00:03:22,001 --> 00:03:24,161 Speaker 2: the whole of Australia. Here it with me, all these 70 00:03:24,161 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: bits and pieces, and said, one day I'm going to 71 00:03:26,481 --> 00:03:29,441 Speaker 2: make jewelry. So when I finally got clean, even just 72 00:03:29,481 --> 00:03:31,561 Speaker 2: before that, i'd started tinkering with it, but it wasn't 73 00:03:31,601 --> 00:03:34,161 Speaker 2: really and I set up in a month's garage a 74 00:03:34,201 --> 00:03:36,601 Speaker 2: little table and I really got into it. I taught 75 00:03:36,641 --> 00:03:42,481 Speaker 2: myself how to make stirling silver jewelry and I love it. 76 00:03:42,481 --> 00:03:43,801 Speaker 1: It's my creative outlet. 77 00:03:43,841 --> 00:03:47,041 Speaker 2: I've always been quite creative and this was something that 78 00:03:47,121 --> 00:03:49,041 Speaker 2: was missing, a part of my puzzle that was missing. 79 00:03:49,321 --> 00:03:51,081 Speaker 1: So it brought me a lot of joy. Yeah. 80 00:03:51,121 --> 00:03:55,041 Speaker 2: So I'd done my hard work and I'd met a 81 00:03:55,081 --> 00:03:57,761 Speaker 2: friend and he was like, you need to go to 82 00:03:57,881 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: na right, And he's actually a mentor of mine. He's 83 00:04:02,201 --> 00:04:05,841 Speaker 2: an amazing human being. And I was like, okay, sure, 84 00:04:05,921 --> 00:04:07,721 Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't fucking go sit with 85 00:04:07,761 --> 00:04:09,921 Speaker 2: other people and go this is what happened to me. 86 00:04:10,801 --> 00:04:13,441 Speaker 2: I shouldn't mock it. It fucking works for people. It 87 00:04:13,521 --> 00:04:16,641 Speaker 2: keeps people clean for many years. But that's how I 88 00:04:16,641 --> 00:04:17,641 Speaker 2: felt about it. Right. 89 00:04:17,721 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of and I was. I don't know. 90 00:04:20,521 --> 00:04:23,041 Speaker 1: I kind of didn't feel like I belonged again. My 91 00:04:23,121 --> 00:04:24,761 Speaker 1: story was different. But I did. 92 00:04:24,801 --> 00:04:27,121 Speaker 2: I went because I decided when I got clean that 93 00:04:27,161 --> 00:04:29,361 Speaker 2: I would do everything that My initial is I don't 94 00:04:29,401 --> 00:04:32,161 Speaker 2: want to do that, go and do it Tash just once. 95 00:04:32,721 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: So I did, and that's where I met oh Man. 96 00:04:37,081 --> 00:04:39,681 Speaker 3: Yeah, but did he get your back on it? 97 00:04:40,241 --> 00:04:42,241 Speaker 1: No? No, no, we both weren't using at all. He 98 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,881 Speaker 1: can't use. No, he has one dream. 99 00:04:45,361 --> 00:04:47,001 Speaker 3: So we just had this idea that. 100 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:52,121 Speaker 2: No, no, he's an old gang he's been in jail 101 00:04:52,161 --> 00:04:55,881 Speaker 2: before anyway, it's not really his story, but yeah, that's 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,761 Speaker 2: his whole life story. But he goes to me, I'm 103 00:04:58,761 --> 00:05:00,961 Speaker 2: an old gangster. You know, I don't do it anymore. 104 00:05:01,161 --> 00:05:01,801 Speaker 2: Then he moved in. 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,401 Speaker 1: He moved in. I was like, oh my god, this 106 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: is so going to work. 107 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:12,801 Speaker 2: And you know, the relationship itself, and there was so 108 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,681 Speaker 2: much healing for me with He was the kindest guy 109 00:05:16,721 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: in the world. It was just a fucking good bloke 110 00:05:18,921 --> 00:05:23,881 Speaker 2: in here. And the men that I dated before they 111 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,161 Speaker 2: were all really destructive. They wanted to control me, and 112 00:05:26,161 --> 00:05:28,081 Speaker 2: there was all this kind of stuff. You know, I'm 113 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:29,841 Speaker 2: not saying I was miss Goody two shoes at oh, 114 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,641 Speaker 2: I was a fucking mess. Hey didn't do any of that, 115 00:05:32,681 --> 00:05:34,561 Speaker 2: and it gave me some real space with this new 116 00:05:34,561 --> 00:05:36,881 Speaker 2: clarity and all these things that I'd learned about relationships 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,481 Speaker 2: and how because I sat down and I worked out, 118 00:05:38,601 --> 00:05:40,281 Speaker 2: this is what I want my relationship to look like, 119 00:05:40,681 --> 00:05:43,081 Speaker 2: this is how I want to show up in this relationship. 120 00:05:43,121 --> 00:05:45,041 Speaker 2: These are the boundaries I'm going to set. These are 121 00:05:45,081 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: the conversations I want to have. And I had that 122 00:05:47,601 --> 00:05:49,521 Speaker 2: with him for a year. I could do that with him, 123 00:05:49,561 --> 00:05:52,161 Speaker 2: and it was great. So you know, in a way 124 00:05:52,361 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: I can say he brought this other thing to my 125 00:05:54,001 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: life that fucking made me wear green, But that's not 126 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: his fault. That's what he was going to do. Anyway. 127 00:06:00,641 --> 00:06:02,841 Speaker 2: I should have just gone, Nah, that's a fucking big 128 00:06:02,841 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: red flag. How about you move out? Thank you very 129 00:06:05,521 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: much for coming. But no I didn't. Again, the little 130 00:06:08,401 --> 00:06:10,921 Speaker 2: girl made a decision because you know, you don't just 131 00:06:11,001 --> 00:06:14,681 Speaker 2: heal overnight, you don't undo almost fifty. 132 00:06:14,601 --> 00:06:17,361 Speaker 3: Did it as a way that well, you know, fucking 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,401 Speaker 3: make a lot of money here, fucking oath, I could 134 00:06:20,601 --> 00:06:22,241 Speaker 3: my life could get back to how it used to be. 135 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,761 Speaker 2: Well, it could it'll be my future and set up. 136 00:06:25,841 --> 00:06:28,081 Speaker 2: There's my super innovation. There's my fucking house that I'm 137 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:29,641 Speaker 2: going to live in, do you know what I mean? 138 00:06:29,761 --> 00:06:31,241 Speaker 2: So you know, i'd lie if I said it was 139 00:06:31,241 --> 00:06:33,401 Speaker 2: about anything else other than the money. And that's all 140 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,641 Speaker 2: it was about. You know, they have me on tape 141 00:06:36,761 --> 00:06:39,721 Speaker 2: fucking going I'm miscounting the money. They played it in 142 00:06:39,761 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: call whatever it was. It was one of the things. Look, 143 00:06:45,481 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 2: we moved in together, and I kind of like had 144 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:50,201 Speaker 2: just gone, yeah, I think you're still doing a little 145 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:52,201 Speaker 2: bit of bizo over there, and I don't judge it. 146 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't care. 147 00:06:53,681 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: And then it was just pop so it's just green 148 00:06:55,921 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's sweet, okay with that fucking you know, 149 00:06:59,721 --> 00:07:04,241 Speaker 2: it's gonna be legalized soon, who cares. And then it 150 00:07:04,361 --> 00:07:06,561 Speaker 2: was more, and then it became more and more and more, 151 00:07:06,641 --> 00:07:09,041 Speaker 2: and I was kind of like, we sat down and 152 00:07:09,081 --> 00:07:11,521 Speaker 2: we had a discussion about it, and I've already gone 153 00:07:11,561 --> 00:07:13,001 Speaker 2: to jail for this, so I can talk about it 154 00:07:13,041 --> 00:07:16,001 Speaker 2: openly if I want to. We had a discussion about it, 155 00:07:16,001 --> 00:07:18,841 Speaker 2: and I said, okay, but you get this time. 156 00:07:19,401 --> 00:07:21,081 Speaker 1: Because he had a coin that was a lot we 157 00:07:21,121 --> 00:07:21,761 Speaker 1: needed money. 158 00:07:22,081 --> 00:07:23,761 Speaker 2: I was working I had my phone, so on my 159 00:07:23,801 --> 00:07:26,801 Speaker 2: little mission we didn't need anymore. 160 00:07:27,201 --> 00:07:29,561 Speaker 1: But he wanted to achieve something that was his goal. 161 00:07:30,041 --> 00:07:33,401 Speaker 2: I went, okay, well, you got this time frame and 162 00:07:33,681 --> 00:07:35,521 Speaker 2: these are some of the boundaries and the rules, like, 163 00:07:35,681 --> 00:07:37,321 Speaker 2: let's have a look at my track record, let's have 164 00:07:37,361 --> 00:07:39,561 Speaker 2: a look at yours. I think mine's a little bit better. 165 00:07:39,681 --> 00:07:43,201 Speaker 2: Maybe some direction from me might help. Didn't listen just 166 00:07:43,241 --> 00:07:45,161 Speaker 2: when he did what he did, and the next minute, 167 00:07:45,161 --> 00:07:46,401 Speaker 2: I'm in handcuffs. 168 00:07:46,801 --> 00:07:49,801 Speaker 3: Fuck, what did they get you for? 169 00:07:50,081 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: They got me for annoyingly dealing with the proceeds of crime. 170 00:07:53,281 --> 00:07:55,721 Speaker 2: So we had almost a million dollars in cash in 171 00:07:55,761 --> 00:07:58,881 Speaker 2: a story shed, which they put We were under investigation 172 00:07:59,001 --> 00:08:02,641 Speaker 2: for four to five months. The reason why they actually 173 00:08:03,241 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: even found us before we wrapped it up, or before 174 00:08:07,641 --> 00:08:08,921 Speaker 2: he wrapped it up, I should. 175 00:08:08,721 --> 00:08:11,721 Speaker 1: Say we, I'm saying we. No, I didn't have that much. 176 00:08:11,721 --> 00:08:17,601 Speaker 2: Sand was a mate of his who he connected with 177 00:08:18,001 --> 00:08:21,121 Speaker 2: was under full floats investigation, so they were following him. 178 00:08:22,201 --> 00:08:26,121 Speaker 2: I dropped off to that guy, and so I got 179 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:28,401 Speaker 2: also done for. I think it's like four or five 180 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:30,081 Speaker 2: counts of commercial supply as well. 181 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:32,961 Speaker 3: Would you would you were you the driver or the 182 00:08:33,001 --> 00:08:34,561 Speaker 3: drop off person or would you. 183 00:08:34,321 --> 00:08:36,681 Speaker 2: No, I just look whenever he wasn't around, when he 184 00:08:36,721 --> 00:08:39,361 Speaker 2: was doing something else here in the beginning, I said, no, 185 00:08:40,281 --> 00:08:42,081 Speaker 2: so this is like a graduate thing. I'm like, I'm 186 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:44,241 Speaker 2: no fucking way am I having anything to do with this. 187 00:08:44,841 --> 00:08:47,961 Speaker 2: I'll fucking count the money. Have you to count the 188 00:08:48,001 --> 00:08:50,241 Speaker 2: money and make sure that it's all good. But I 189 00:08:50,241 --> 00:08:52,881 Speaker 2: don't want to fucking And then it was kind of please, 190 00:08:52,921 --> 00:08:56,041 Speaker 2: I'm not there, can you please? So when okay, yeah, 191 00:08:56,081 --> 00:08:58,721 Speaker 2: and then that one time became you know, the next 192 00:08:58,721 --> 00:09:01,201 Speaker 2: time and the next time, I don't really fucking I 193 00:09:01,241 --> 00:09:04,121 Speaker 2: did care, but I didn't care. There was this It 194 00:09:04,241 --> 00:09:07,001 Speaker 2: was this real. It was it was almost like the 195 00:09:07,081 --> 00:09:08,361 Speaker 2: universe needed to go. 196 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:10,361 Speaker 1: Cash. 197 00:09:10,481 --> 00:09:12,521 Speaker 2: You haven't learned anything. You have to make a fucking 198 00:09:12,601 --> 00:09:14,841 Speaker 2: choice here. So you can't sit on the fence with 199 00:09:14,881 --> 00:09:16,601 Speaker 2: this stuff. You're either a criminal or you're not. 200 00:09:17,201 --> 00:09:17,841 Speaker 1: And I wasn't. 201 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:22,321 Speaker 2: I am now apparently by the law, but no, not really. 202 00:09:22,361 --> 00:09:24,481 Speaker 2: I've always kind of danced around that. So that's not 203 00:09:24,521 --> 00:09:25,641 Speaker 2: what I wanted to. I don't want to be a 204 00:09:25,641 --> 00:09:31,481 Speaker 2: career criminal. Fuck that, not at fifty not ever. Yeah, 205 00:09:31,641 --> 00:09:34,601 Speaker 2: And I truly at the end of the day was 206 00:09:34,681 --> 00:09:39,561 Speaker 2: like you still clean. Yeah, now I've been cleaned for 207 00:09:39,641 --> 00:09:40,281 Speaker 2: over five. 208 00:09:40,161 --> 00:09:44,041 Speaker 1: Years, almost five years, yeah, over five years now. 209 00:09:44,121 --> 00:09:45,081 Speaker 3: So what was the downfall? 210 00:09:45,161 --> 00:09:45,321 Speaker 2: What? 211 00:09:45,321 --> 00:09:46,041 Speaker 3: What could you caught? 212 00:09:46,321 --> 00:09:49,241 Speaker 2: Because there was the guy was under investigation. Yeah, so 213 00:09:49,801 --> 00:09:53,481 Speaker 2: they were monitoring him. We had bizo with him. They 214 00:09:53,521 --> 00:09:56,161 Speaker 2: had like the brief is this fucking beak. They've got 215 00:09:56,161 --> 00:09:58,361 Speaker 2: all the phone calls between the two boys, and I 216 00:09:58,401 --> 00:10:00,521 Speaker 2: answered the phone a couple of times, so there's that 217 00:10:00,601 --> 00:10:03,321 Speaker 2: as well. So they then then they was a full 218 00:10:03,321 --> 00:10:05,121 Speaker 2: task force, so they put together a second task for 219 00:10:05,321 --> 00:10:09,201 Speaker 2: which then monitor us because they saw Bez he's his name, Sorry, yeah, 220 00:10:09,241 --> 00:10:12,041 Speaker 2: I saw bear his name and fucking line up light 221 00:10:12,161 --> 00:10:14,721 Speaker 2: up mar because and he was still in parole for 222 00:10:14,761 --> 00:10:20,641 Speaker 2: his last lot. They then put trackers, cameras, listening devices 223 00:10:21,001 --> 00:10:25,841 Speaker 2: both cars, storage, shed wherever else and they tapped all 224 00:10:25,881 --> 00:10:26,281 Speaker 2: the phones. 225 00:10:27,081 --> 00:10:30,001 Speaker 3: So what were you caught with? You said? The million dollars? 226 00:10:30,161 --> 00:10:33,161 Speaker 1: Yeah, so almost a million in cash and three pounds apart. 227 00:10:33,761 --> 00:10:35,241 Speaker 3: And what was the sentence things that you got for that? 228 00:10:35,921 --> 00:10:40,201 Speaker 2: So I went to I got two and a half no, 229 00:10:40,361 --> 00:10:43,001 Speaker 2: two years six months on the top and I had 230 00:10:43,041 --> 00:10:48,201 Speaker 2: to serve fifteen months incarcerated, so no parole. Get he 231 00:10:48,321 --> 00:10:52,441 Speaker 2: got ten years six months on the top with six 232 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:55,441 Speaker 2: years and ten months to serve, and a lot later 233 00:10:55,481 --> 00:10:58,641 Speaker 2: than me, like I did. I was on home detention 234 00:10:58,721 --> 00:11:02,281 Speaker 2: when he got sentenced, okay, and he's been locked off 235 00:11:02,281 --> 00:11:05,601 Speaker 2: the whole time. I never swam again. So we got 236 00:11:05,641 --> 00:11:07,961 Speaker 2: arrested that day on the sixteenth of December. 237 00:11:10,801 --> 00:11:12,641 Speaker 3: Not even caught dates or nothing like that, and never. 238 00:11:13,321 --> 00:11:14,681 Speaker 1: No our CAURT days weren't together. 239 00:11:15,001 --> 00:11:16,761 Speaker 3: What was that feeling when you're when you're when all 240 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:18,921 Speaker 3: that shit went the family, you knew that you were 241 00:11:18,921 --> 00:11:20,681 Speaker 3: going inside. How'd you feel then? 242 00:11:21,361 --> 00:11:26,281 Speaker 1: Look, I wasn't surprised. I was more worried about the 243 00:11:26,601 --> 00:11:27,881 Speaker 1: Were you ready for it? Yeah? 244 00:11:28,881 --> 00:11:31,241 Speaker 2: This time around, like I was more concerned the impact 245 00:11:31,241 --> 00:11:32,441 Speaker 2: it was having on those that I loved. 246 00:11:33,601 --> 00:11:34,881 Speaker 1: Because I can do anything. 247 00:11:35,041 --> 00:11:37,121 Speaker 2: I've done it so much in my life, and it's 248 00:11:37,161 --> 00:11:39,961 Speaker 2: just another playground and another new new school. Let you 249 00:11:40,041 --> 00:11:42,241 Speaker 2: go to right, God, in prison, it's the same as 250 00:11:42,681 --> 00:11:45,001 Speaker 2: being a kid and being shuffled around the world. I 251 00:11:45,041 --> 00:11:47,321 Speaker 2: can play in any playground and I could sivive anything, 252 00:11:48,121 --> 00:11:50,721 Speaker 2: and if I don't, that's okay. So that's how I 253 00:11:50,761 --> 00:11:53,841 Speaker 2: felt about it, And you know, also making that choice 254 00:11:53,841 --> 00:11:54,761 Speaker 2: to get involved with him. 255 00:11:55,121 --> 00:11:55,961 Speaker 1: I made my peace. 256 00:11:56,281 --> 00:11:59,281 Speaker 2: This could go wrong and the consequences of this are 257 00:11:59,321 --> 00:12:01,761 Speaker 2: going to be bigger than anything else. Right, They're not 258 00:12:01,801 --> 00:12:05,001 Speaker 2: just small. It's we're not just fucking some fucking bagodobe. 259 00:12:05,481 --> 00:12:07,681 Speaker 2: But I was prepared. I didn't know about the process 260 00:12:07,721 --> 00:12:10,641 Speaker 2: of court and stuff, so that was really fucking like. 261 00:12:10,921 --> 00:12:15,441 Speaker 2: You get arrested, and then what happens next? You get 262 00:12:15,641 --> 00:12:18,041 Speaker 2: released on bail? What's next? Oh, you go to court 263 00:12:18,081 --> 00:12:21,521 Speaker 2: appearance in a month. Nothing happens at that first court appearance. 264 00:12:21,561 --> 00:12:23,241 Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on, and every month 265 00:12:23,241 --> 00:12:25,441 Speaker 2: there is a court appearance scheduled, but nothing happens. 266 00:12:25,721 --> 00:12:27,481 Speaker 1: No one tells you that. 267 00:12:27,721 --> 00:12:29,761 Speaker 2: So then I spoke to my lawyer, and I reached 268 00:12:29,761 --> 00:12:31,401 Speaker 2: out to other people, and I spoke to you. I 269 00:12:31,441 --> 00:12:33,841 Speaker 2: went to informed myself, but not many people can do that, 270 00:12:34,401 --> 00:12:36,521 Speaker 2: and I got some a good idea around what was 271 00:12:36,521 --> 00:12:38,841 Speaker 2: going to happen. I took to a couple of other 272 00:12:38,921 --> 00:12:41,161 Speaker 2: lawyers that wanted to represent me, but I stayed with 273 00:12:42,601 --> 00:12:45,361 Speaker 2: a friend of ours who's a lawyer, and it served 274 00:12:45,441 --> 00:12:45,721 Speaker 2: me well.