1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Roight League from Every Angle, brought 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: to you by NIV. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Joining me again, Gordon tell Us, that's bring. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: The journals straight in Paul Crawley and Dave Ricky A 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: welcome back, Crawels. Good to say, I we've missed you. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: You're doing a column every Monday on Fox sports dot 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: com dot are you. 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 4: I've had a nice relaxing start for the year watching 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 4: from a distance, but I'm back now. 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: I'm going to ride a weekly. 12 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 4: Column for Fox Sports and sit on this panel show 13 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: with you, Beffers. 14 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: It's always funny last and I think Buzzi is still 15 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: be angry with about last night, so I'm like, I'll 16 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: be soft on you too. 17 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: All right, what about the mind games have begun? 18 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Madge's referrering history with the as the Blues coach. 19 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: Has been brought into question up in Queensland. Gordy, what's 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: going on here? 21 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 5: It's got to be a little bit of a concern. 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 5: We watched Madge last night talk about what are you 23 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: looking at? No, but you watched Madge talk about that 24 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: he met Joey he was a thirteen year old and 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 5: so there's a relationship with them so you would know 26 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 5: the strengths and the weaknesses, wouldn't you of the coach? 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 5: If you're a coach coach and the referees, would you 28 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: know the strengths and the weaknesses of the referee. 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: So I'm just. 30 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Saying, what's what is? What are the we're saying here? 31 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 5: If you coach the referees you think you'd have a 32 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: good relationship with it doesn't matter, but would you know 33 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 5: the strengths and weaknesses? 34 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: But what's what is it? 35 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: What is that if you coach with players you would 36 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: know this? 37 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: So he shouldn't be able to coach himself. 38 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying that. 39 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 5: I think it's an advantage and I think that there's 40 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: no doubt that a Queenslader's sitting there and going, well, 41 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: if you coach someone, you know their strengths and weaknesses 42 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: and as a and as a Queenslander. 43 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't worry me, no, because I haven't clear. You guys 44 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: win at referee. 45 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: You guys wins about Barry gomesil twenty years after he retired. 46 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: Jesus, we've had one Queens referee. Maybe. Yeah, it's true though, 47 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: isn't it? It's not true? 48 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: Ivan Cleary was the referees, coach when he was out 49 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: of work. 50 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: And who's winning the comps, and who's been in the room, 51 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: and who's been in the rules the most in the competition. 52 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, you think that's why you got to know. 53 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: You've got to know the rules. The referees. 54 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: They're a coach at some point, so that if you 55 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: referee the coaches, you're not allowed to reference if you 56 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: coach referee. 57 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 5: I just threw it out there. Do you know the 58 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: style and what you can get away with? 59 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: You? 60 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: When I got refereed by Bill Harry, and I'll go 61 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: back to my career, I knew what I could get 62 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 5: away with. There's no doubt I knew what you can 63 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: get away with with different referees. Did you know that? Yeah, 64 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: So if you're the coach of them, you know what 65 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 5: their strengths. 66 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Billy watches every game, he commentates in every game. He 67 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: should know different referees, how they referee their Well, hopefully 68 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: we're on. 69 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: The same as a proud Queensland. 70 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 7: I can see with you bringing this up and planting 71 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 7: the seed right now. 72 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: One week before I heard. 73 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 8: You know what you're doing. You're planning the seed? What 74 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 8: seed for Queensland? 75 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: The green. 76 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Let's not talk about trees. 77 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: You're planning the seed. 78 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 8: He's trying to stop it. 79 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, do you remember the photo that Sutton had 80 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: with his young son in the in the Queensland Jersey 81 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: for years ago. 82 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he did, and Bill and then you know, Bill 83 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: Harrigan sent me off and his son. I was his 84 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: favorite player. So it doesn't matter the referees there to. 85 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: Do his shop. That's I just hope that they started. 86 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: That's already started. 87 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: What if I started, you know exactly. 88 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 7: You're trying to get the rubber of the green next 89 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 7: Wednesday night in Sydney. 90 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: Will we get it? We'll see. 91 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Keep trying, Gord'll see what happens. Now, what about match? 92 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: He's cut his head open. I should have laughed. Not funny, 93 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: but what happened? 94 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: He was a training today. 95 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 7: Today was Today was the major media opportunity for the 96 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 7: new South Wales Blues team. Every player available to the 97 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 7: media and Paul Madge first opportunity to front the cameras. 98 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 7: He bumps his noggin and he's a little bit like 99 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 7: me and Gordy spear on top. 100 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 8: And yeah, is he okay bitches or just just ad 101 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 8: I understand. 102 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: What about the eight Does he have to sit out 103 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: for eleven days? 104 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: You have to the eighteenth man. 105 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 7: I think we've all seen it will take a little 106 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 7: bit to quite and match down. 107 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 8: So no, I think he's okay, beautiful. 108 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: What about Harry Grant too, he's been sick, happens in 109 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: Origin and other Queens lad. 110 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: Has gone down. Is he going to normally happens on Sunday? 111 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: Normally it's so well advanced of yours to me, to me, 112 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 5: it must be true. It must be Harry must be 113 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: a little bit under the weather because normally it comes 114 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 5: out Sunday or Monday a couple of day. Yeah, like 115 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: it comes out before it comes out after we've prepared 116 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 5: and got everything down pat. So if Harry is isolated, 117 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: he might have come down. 118 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 7: He missed he look, he missed the the the player's 119 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 7: opportunity today to turn the legs over. 120 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: I understand it's diary, you guys. He was. 121 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 7: He was removed from the group and they're not overly concerned. 122 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 7: They trained third Thursday. The Queenslanders that when they're back 123 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 7: on the paddock, he'll be there. 124 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: You don't miss a game through DIARYA do well, he'll 125 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: be foul it's a first it's a first day, so 126 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. So all Queensland as you can relax. 127 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: He'll be playing and in the game. Right now, the 128 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Dog's a bit of a blow up maybe over Matt Burton. 129 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: Now he is the eighteenth man, which means that he 130 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: can't play for the Dogs on the weekend. Yeah, do 131 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: we think this is fair? And what have the Dogs 132 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: got to say about? 133 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 7: They're pretty disappointed on this one, guys, in the fact 134 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 7: that the Canterbury Bulldogs play this Friday night and that 135 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 7: Matt Burton is the eighteenth man for the Blues and 136 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 7: is therefore unavailable for that Friday night match. However, players 137 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 7: nineteen and twenty are are able to return to their clubs. 138 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 7: Luke Keary can return to the Roosters, Mitch Barnick Ken 139 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 7: return to the Warriors. 140 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 8: The Warrior's got to buy, mind you, so he would 141 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 8: have been able to. 142 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 7: This is the third time it's happened to the Bulldogs 143 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 7: and Matt Burton, where he sat as the eighteenth man 144 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 7: for the entire week and being unavailable for the Dogs. 145 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 8: Now you've got to put yourselves in the Canterbury shoes. 146 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 7: They are attempting to make the finals for the first 147 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 7: time in a long time. They also know the heavy 148 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 7: influence that Matt Burton has on this football team and 149 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 7: whether there should be some wiggle room or at least 150 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 7: an adjustment on when an eighteenth player is made available 151 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 7: to potentially return to their teams. 152 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: On the wheel was that they would play their game 153 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: and the fittest and strongest would come in. And isn't 154 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: there so many sides having a bye? And they are the. 155 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Rules changed though, the fact that an eighteenth man is 156 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: now really a live chance to play in the game 157 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: as soon as there's a player that leads the field 158 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: due to an illegal play. 159 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: The activator in game one last year when they could 160 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: have activated Burton. 161 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: And with Burton too, it would not shock me one 162 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: bit if New South Wales pulled the swifty here and 163 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: put him in the seven. Like I can't believe we 164 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: aren't taking a back on the bench four forwards. 165 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: Do you think follow there or do you think there 166 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: could be a late curve boy or you just I. 167 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: Truly do because like we were the only option to 168 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: come in and play in the halves if we get 169 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: an injury, there is candorkinners and and the options if 170 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: we get an injury in the outside backs is what 171 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: Angus Crichton and Hudson young. And yet you've got Burton 172 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: who's sitting there, who could pretty much feel any position 173 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: and you can shift things around to make it work. 174 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 8: It just wouldn't shock me one bit. 175 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: Right, But if you ask Burton, well, this is he 176 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: would be so happy. 177 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: Have they spoke to may Burton about this? 178 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: Just is this this? 179 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: The club's opinions. 180 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: Aren't going to put pressure on that Burton to pull 181 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 7: out like I'm not saying that. 182 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: But do we know what preference the player would have? 183 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 8: I think the player, I argue exactly, go. 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: And rejoin King. 185 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: The problem is that, in my belief is that he's 186 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: got to train with the squad and be with the 187 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: squad and cover those positions because realistically he may. It's 188 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: extremely unlucky and unfair to the dogs. I get it, 189 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: I wish he was playing for them on the weekend. 190 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: But if you are genuinely a number eighteen in origin 191 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: these days with the HIA and players and being able 192 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: to come in at any stage, and. 193 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: He needs to cover a number of positions if. 194 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: He does come on, they need him there every day 195 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: and they need him training, and Origin training is really 196 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: high intensity as well, so I kind of get it, 197 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: but I do. 198 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: I do feel for them. 199 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 7: Only point to that, guys, is that he's not the 200 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 7: backup half. If Nico Heines actually pulls out with a 201 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 7: calf complaint, it's Luke Kerey so and Luke Kerery is 202 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 7: allowed to go back and play for the Rooster's simply 203 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 7: because he was played name as. 204 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 8: The nineteenth man. 205 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 7: It just seems like it's one rule for one and not. 206 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: For the I still believe he should be allowed. 207 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 8: To go back and play for come back. 208 00:08:59,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 209 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: In the top seventy, Yeah, I think the top seventeen, 210 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: they're the one that pick the play. 211 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: I reckon the others can go back. 212 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: To brace Point because it is a live threat much 213 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: to be up to date with everything that's happening at training. 214 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: One day, one game, one game game that's so covery, 215 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: so it gets injured. 216 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: So you're worried about Harry Grant miss, but you're worried 217 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: about a guy that's going to go keep his tools sharp, 218 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: go out there, but then go there and play a game. 219 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: I just think with the way that the game is now, 220 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: an eighteen player team. 221 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: It is what it is. It can't turn that. 222 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: It's happened third time, happened three times, and the Dogs 223 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: are everyday it's a chance for win this. 224 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: Well, let's mark it down. 225 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 7: If the Dogs miss mister Yate by two points and 226 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: had they had Matt Burton out there, much different story 227 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 7: for a whole different reason around players careers and coaches careers. 228 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: So how how disappointed other dogs are? 229 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Is it they feel? 230 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: But what makes you really do about. 231 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 7: Well, there's nothing they can do except extreme frustration and 232 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 7: and and disappointment that another player potentially from a club 233 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 7: that's currently got a boy couldn't could sit in the 234 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 7: eighteenth man position and Maddie can still be number nineteen. 235 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: That's right, I've hurt their final chances possibly. 236 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: Well absolutely, Like what chance is it? 237 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: Like? 238 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: He's zero chance of playing at the moment unless something 239 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 5: bad happens, right right, unless foul plays and it's five 240 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 5: day turnaround, They're fine. 241 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 8: You're an emergency. 242 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: Finch got man of the match and they got him 243 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: out of the pub twenty four hours before. 244 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 2: I was playing room with him. I was playing with 245 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: him that game. 246 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Actually, all right, let's cross live to Blues Camp now. 247 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: Or Isao is standing by Isaiah? A new series, a 248 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: new location. How are you settling in on the Blue Mountains? 249 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I got to hear about twenty minutes ago, so 250 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 6: just finished dinner. But I can't wait, obviously to wake 251 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: up in the morning actually get the check the facilities out. 252 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 6: But what was seeing so far? It looks blood out 253 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 6: in real So I've. 254 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: Had a big day. 255 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 6: I saw all the media commitments this morning and then 256 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: darted up hearing Yeah, lot to touch. I've got here 257 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 6: about twenty minutes ago, so had a nice, warm welcome, 258 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 6: how to welcome the ceremony as well, that the boys 259 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 6: loved and look just enjoying it. It's always a nice period, 260 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: a nice time that you've been able to be a 261 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 6: part of this series, and I'm looking forward to. 262 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: It, Isaiah Paul Crawley here mate. A lot's been made 263 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: of James Tedesco missing out in the team, but the 264 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: fact that Dylan Edwards has come in, and I guess, 265 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: as a person that's played beside him and watched his 266 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: career revolve and the hard work you hear about his 267 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: legendary efforts at training, what's it mean to him and 268 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: what's it mean to you to see him finally get 269 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: this opportunity. 270 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously, just super stoked for him. I felt like, 271 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 6: what's he wanted. He's won three Premierships, one of Clive 272 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 6: Churchill played for Australia, and I just feel like the 273 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 6: body of work over the sort of last four or 274 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 6: five seasons, particularly of the last couple, where he's been 275 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 6: really recognized by the public and the peers, not just 276 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 6: the Penwrith player that we've known for a while how 277 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 6: good he is, but his work so hard, and I 278 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 6: just felt the bigger the game is and the harder 279 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 6: it is, the better he gets. So yeah, looked obviously 280 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 6: super super excited for him, super state and I just 281 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 6: feel like you just suit this arena so much. So 282 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 6: there's obviously very tough decision for mad Probably the toughest 283 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 6: is he would have made sort of in his coach 284 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 6: and tenure. But yeah, obviously, Yeah, just super excited for him. 285 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 7: You'll do a wonderful Jobhaia Daviri Chio mates named on 286 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 7: the interchange bench in this game you have been. 287 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: It's certainly a different role for you. 288 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 7: We know how outstanding you are as a starting log forward. 289 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: How did your role. 290 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 7: Change if you had a chance to just consider what 291 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 7: how different or what you're going to bring when you 292 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 7: do come onto the footy field. 293 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 6: Well, I've done it for the start of Open before, 294 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 6: I did it obviously Game three last year, did it 295 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 6: when I first came into the Blue squad in twenty twenty. 296 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 6: So yeah, nothing really changes. I'm still a middle forward. 297 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 6: I'll go in there and compete and work hard and 298 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 6: just do my job. So I feel like that's all 299 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: I've ever done for the News Wales, just trying to 300 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 6: go out there and compete as hard as I can 301 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 6: and do my job and healthy Off the back of that, 302 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 6: good things can happen. So in terms of sort of 303 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 6: how that looks and sort of interchange and all sort 304 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 6: of stuff, we probably haven't spoken about it at length 305 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: just yet, but it looks I'll be in the middle 306 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 6: there somewhere and looking to do me best. Sarah's Gordon 307 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 6: tell us some Madge is big on commitment and passion. 308 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 6: How's his message being so far in camp? 309 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: Now? 310 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: He's been really good? 311 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: He is? 312 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 6: Are we talking about I just missed the start? We're 313 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 6: talking about Madge or joke? 314 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, Madge? 315 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: Well both Madge, Well, no, we'll both very passionate, as 316 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 6: we all know, but obviously on Madge's I think he's 317 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 6: come in with a real purpose and a real passion. 318 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 6: I think we've seen that throughout the media, but then 319 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 6: obviously the players have seen that too with the meetings 320 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 6: and the conversation we've had as well. So I think 321 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: that's always a good thing as a player when when 322 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: you see the coaches have got a real purpose and 323 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 6: then on the back of that all the boys are 324 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 6: boring in and you can fill out real smoon in 325 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 6: the right direction here at the moment. So obviously it's 326 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: a big weak preparation now training wise and making sure 327 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: we're getting all that sort of stuff right. But he's 328 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: got a real clear message for us at the moment 329 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 6: that's obviously make the study of New South Wales proud 330 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 6: of our performance. So it's obviously results based, results based series, 331 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 6: and we understand that winning obviously fixes a lot of things. 332 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: But yeah, really looking forward to he's been minderful and 333 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 6: obviously on the back of Jake, he's been a very 334 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 6: popular captain for the not just the players, I think 335 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 6: over the whole state. I think everyone agrees what he 336 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 6: brings to the New South Wales, and I think he 337 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 6: sort of embodies what man just trying to get out 338 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: of this this group. 339 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: So he's been he's been unreal, Isaiah. 340 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: I know one player that's not there but would be 341 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 7: so heavily invested in the Blues is Nathan Cleary. And 342 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 7: I'm just wondering whether at any point through this camp 343 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 7: that you, you know, you might receive a text or 344 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: a message from Nathan just with advice, tips on how 345 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 7: to how to go about this, because we just know 346 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: he would have played an instrumental role in this camp 347 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 7: and this game game one next Wednesday night. 348 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: I guess that was obviously the disappointing part, not just 349 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: at Clubland but for New South Wales, the timing of 350 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: the injury. But yeah, look, I think if you went 351 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 6: out and ask him questions, you'd be more than happy 352 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: to answer. But at the same time, he's just a 353 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 6: really passionate Blues fans. He just wants us to see 354 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: us do well. So I'm sure if any of the 355 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 6: boy's asked him, or if he needed offer tips or anything, 356 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: I'm sure he'd be more than willing. But yeah, it 357 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 6: obviously means a lot to him. He was at the 358 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: true Blue Dinner last night, which is obviously that's a 359 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 6: big thing for him, understanding he's not in the series 360 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 6: this year, but still going to the events like that 361 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: just because he's so passionate about it. So obviously on 362 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 6: a personal level, disappointed for him, but then obviously it's 363 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 6: a mondal for opportunity for Nickel as well. So yeah, 364 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 6: like I touched, someone just super excited for the series 365 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 6: coming up and can't win. 366 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: For Wednesday week, the queenslin and yet again named a 367 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: strong team. What's the key to beating them next week? 368 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, obviously the extremely hard working pack, which I 369 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 6: think we've seen over the last few series in particular. 370 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: But there's obviously the strike at the back, the speed 371 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 6: on the edges, So I think that's one big thing 372 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: that matches me. Talk as connection and to be really 373 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 6: connected across the park because they've just got players that 374 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: can break the game open just with individual talents. So 375 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 6: I'm going to be really good and I guess as 376 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 6: the week's preparations will go on, we'll have a clear 377 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: plan about around that. And yeah, just looking forward to that. 378 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 6: It's always good, good time going into training and learning 379 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 6: those new combinations, getting to play with players you don't 380 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: normally get to play with. So yeah, obviously Wednesday week 381 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: we have to be able to our best and be 382 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 6: really connected all across the park and yeah, I'm looking 383 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 6: forward to the challenge. 384 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for joining us again, congratulations on making the 385 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Blues team and go and do New South Wales. 386 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: Proud next week. 387 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 6: Cheers boys start there. 388 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: He is as ao yet again in the New South 389 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: Wales team, and Nico Hines has declared himself fit and 390 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: ready to play with the Blues half Adam and he 391 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: holds no mental scars heading into Origin one. 392 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 9: Right now, I just want to prepare the best I 393 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 9: possibly can for this team, and you can't leave any 394 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 9: stones unturned. And you know I've got I've got a 395 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 9: clear role and that's that's nothing against what happened last 396 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 9: year and the coaching staff or whatever, but I was 397 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 9: a utility on the bench and I didn't know where 398 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 9: I was going to come onto the field and when 399 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 9: I was going to come into the field. And look, 400 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 9: I don't have any scars and I'm not even thinking 401 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 9: about that. I haven't even thought about it until I 402 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 9: got a question axis before. So right now to get 403 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 9: my car right and then get on the field and 404 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 9: train of the boys, and I just want to go 405 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 9: out and play the best I can possibly play for 406 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 9: this team. 407 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: Niko hi and says he has no scars after his 408 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Origin debu. He gets a great opportunity now in his 409 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: position to play for New South Wales. A dream come 410 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: true for a guy who deserves it because he's worked 411 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: hard and he's had a lot of success and he's 412 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: been in great form. Are there any question marks, though, 413 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: cruels over Niko heading into this one. 414 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: I'll start by saying he definitely deserves his spot in 415 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: this team. Like he's been through the three months of 416 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: the start of the season. 417 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: He's been the best. 418 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: Player in the competition and Madge is stuck with him, 419 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: and we've got the injuries to Nathan and Adam Reynolds 420 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: is out. And what concerned me though was the performance, 421 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: the first half performance against the Panthers on the weekend 422 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: where it was basically Rick is a shootout, an Origin 423 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: selection shootout, and he was up against liu Yan and 424 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: his first half was. 425 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: It was really forgettable. 426 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: You know. 427 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: He came up with two kicks that went out on 428 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: the fall. He made a couple other mistakes defensively and 429 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: then he went off and you just saw to yourself 430 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: it's got to play on his mind. And then you 431 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: go back to last year where I think it was 432 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: after Origin one where Nathan got injured and they, if 433 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm correct, they went down to Melbourne and he put 434 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 4: in a pretty forgettable performance that night too, and they 435 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: were both build as games where he was playing for 436 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: that opportunity and as a last shootout heading into an 437 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 4: Origin series. He's first wearing the number seven jumper. I 438 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: know he says there's no metal scars, but it has 439 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: to add to the pressure. 440 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 8: I think I disagree on the cave. 441 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 7: I don't think it was a shootout at all Cruels, 442 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 7: and I think it actually goes the other way where 443 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 7: I just think I believed I knew that he was 444 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 7: in the Blues team you're playing. What I'm saying is 445 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: I think that, and I reckon he's known for a 446 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: couple of weeks, and I reckon it's chipped away at 447 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 7: him and he's been trying to get to the finish 448 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 7: line of getting to the Blues squad, and absolutely I 449 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 7: think it played on his mind last Saturday night. I've 450 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 7: just got to get through this game. I've just got 451 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 7: to get through this game now. The kicks out on 452 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 7: the full were obviously a concern, but I will go 453 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 7: back two weeks earlier. In Magic Round he puts one 454 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 7: out on the full. The very next set he kicks 455 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 7: a forty twenty, So he has proved I think I'm 456 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 7: seeing a much more mature Nicko Hines than the twenty 457 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 7: twenty two Dally. And there are plenty of cases where 458 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 7: he's played slow, fast and help the Sharks win games 459 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 7: in different fat in different ways. 460 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 5: Do you carry obviously, Like when you're a forward, if 461 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: you're missing tackles, it's something that you do carry in 462 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: the next week. If you're a kicker and you're a 463 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: playmaker and you throw winter steps and you don't play 464 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 5: with the ball and you kick out on the full, 465 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: do you carry that into the net? 466 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: As in New South Wales half he's daunting. 467 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: It really is, and you've got to prove it to 468 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: yourself before you prove it to anyone. He wouldn't even know, 469 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: like he wouldn't even know. 470 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: He just cross. 471 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: He tees Dotty's eyes prepped the way that he does 472 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: for a usual game. He's done the hard work. He 473 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: knows a deep down that he can get the job done. 474 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: But until he gets the job done on the biggest 475 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: arena of all, until you do that, you just it's 476 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: the unknown. It's you know, Gordy, it's a different level, 477 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: it's a different speed, it's different. 478 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: The club Lands. It's not even close. 479 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: So but we can't we consider here and speculating, and 480 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: I think he would be probably. 481 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: Have a little bit of an element of doubt himself, 482 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: you know. 483 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't, but he probably, being realistic, he 484 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: does because he hasn't completed it yet. He hasn't walked 485 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: off of a new South Wales field with it with 486 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: a victory in the half. 487 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: So until he does that, and. 488 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Tom will tell that that's what that's the that's what 489 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: makes Origin so special. 490 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: There is there is no doubt that twelve minutes, there's 491 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: no doubt my first Origin moment is still in my head, 492 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: So that. 493 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: Twelve minutes is in his head. 494 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: That doubt coming back and the criticism he copped and 495 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, there's no doubt. It's not 496 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 5: probably in the forefront, but it's somewhere. 497 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: It is somewhere on the back of what Broce said, 498 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: and Dave also, I don't think there's any doubts Dave, 499 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: that Nicko has done it. This year he was leading 500 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: the dally Am. He was the best player in the competition. 501 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 4: But to come in, is that that's your last performance 502 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: before taking on this job that honestly in Origin, it's 503 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: the toughest job out there, wearing that number seven jumper. Yeah, 504 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: and I just I that's the only concern. As the 505 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: Blues fan, I don't think there's anyone out there that 506 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: doesn't want to see Nico perform. Like he's such a 507 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: great role model for the game on and off the field, 508 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: and there's no doubt in the world. Everyone wants him 509 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: to win, and Michael mguire has backed him, and now 510 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 4: it's Nicico's chance to repay that fee. 511 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 7: It is and you know, talking to Nico, I think, Gord, 512 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 7: you're right where talking to Nico he speaks about he 513 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 7: feels like this is his actual debut because it's the 514 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 7: half back jumper, that's the jump, that first jumper. You know, yes, 515 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 7: you don't knock back, you don't back Origin, knock back 516 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 7: Origin jerseys. But coming on as a utility at right center, 517 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 7: that wasn't the plan you know, yeah. 518 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't even like if I'm him, that's you know, 519 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: like it was totally different position, different circumstance. 520 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: How do you comfort zone in the toughest game. 521 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: But there is I really don't see that coming in 522 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: to play with this with this for him. 523 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: In the game. 524 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 7: I think the great benefit guys is Jerome Leui's form, 525 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 7: where where potentially Jerome Lewi becomes the front man to 526 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: Nico Hein's back seat. Look, there's nothing that nothing that 527 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 7: you could argue that Jerome can't lead a football team 528 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 7: around as well. 529 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 8: From what we're seeing at Penrith. 530 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 7: We've seen him do it for Samoa in big games 531 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 7: for them. There is an element of Jerome needing to 532 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 7: take that front foot in this game as much as 533 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 7: what Nico. 534 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: I guess. 535 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: The difference though is the way that Nico plays with 536 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: the Sharks with always first with his hand on the ball, 537 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: whereas Jerome last week played that seven role and now 538 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 4: goes back to the six. So they're playing different roles. 539 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: It has to be Nico that leads the way. 540 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: The only concern I have with both Nico and Jerome 541 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: is they they love a quick play the ball. They're 542 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: very much front foot players if their side's dominating games. 543 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: And Origin again, like we know, did has proven himself 544 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: there and obviously Cherry Evans has, but a lot depends 545 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: what he doesn't on the forward. 546 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Pack and the back five, which New South Wales is 547 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: strong in. 548 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: And that's what you pick the. 549 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Origins about playing off the back foot under pressure, absolutely right, 550 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: So the momentum is going to swing. 551 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 3: I don't care of what's enough Origin. 552 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 5: I know that it is going to swing either way, right, 553 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: and it's when you don't have it how hard you 554 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: can bite down on the mouth guard. 555 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: And that's when you look for those guys. 556 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: I know it's funny, but you look for your halves 557 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: to give you like a little bit of confidence. 558 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be the biggest tasure of their careers. 559 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: And you know it happens every year with Origin and 560 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: they're both great players, both deserve it and hopefully they 561 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: both have a lot of success and win that game 562 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: for you south Fast. Este Walsh is relishing the chance 563 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: to be mentored by Billy Slater again. The superstar fullback 564 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: has also became emotional when asked about his close bond 565 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: with Patrick, carrying he's. 566 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 10: The best at what he does, so for me, it's 567 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 10: just awesome to be around. You know, probably the best 568 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 10: fullback to ever play a game, so you know, to 569 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 10: get the opportunity to get coached by him and mentored 570 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 10: and like a once another lifetime opportunity sort of things. 571 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 10: So I just soaking it up and his detail around 572 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 10: everything's pretty crazy. So yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. It's 573 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 10: awesome to get those sorts of things that you. 574 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 8: Don't think about. 575 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's massive a not just what he does for 576 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 10: me on the field. He you know does a lot 577 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 10: for me off the field too with my little one 578 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 10: and that I'm getting a bit emotional, Yeah, put me 579 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 10: on the body spot. 580 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: No, he's good. 581 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 10: Every time a little one sees him, she you know, 582 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 10: lights up. 583 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: And you know causing Michael. 584 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 10: Patty so you know our friendships probab more than just 585 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 10: the rugby league one. 586 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, beautiful words there from re Swalls about his 587 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: best mate pat carry him what I mean he is 588 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: and obviously like a father figure to his beautiful young daughter, 589 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: which we saw on the weekend in Indigenous Round, which 590 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: was which was very special. Now, Reese, he's a superstar. 591 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: We talk glowingly about him every week. But he does 592 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: have a few chinks in his arm and he probably 593 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: hasn't been at his best, but he's back with Billy Gordy, 594 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: it has to be a good sign. 595 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: Well. 596 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely like last year, I think he had one hundred 597 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 5: scoring plays. So when you talk about response, he creates 598 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: so much. He's always on the attack. I reckon Billy 599 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: sees a lot of himself. I reckon when you look 600 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 5: at a player and you're retired, you go, oh, it's 601 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 5: the closest thing to Billy. But it's picking the moments 602 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: and I think that's where Billy and just the experience 603 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: of hanging around someone like Billy giving him another voice. 604 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: Obviously you can keep on going and your coach would 605 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: be telling him. 606 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: But I think Reese. 607 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: Will Billy made a lot of mistakes. 608 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: We all watched the World Cup. 609 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 5: He throws it back over, Benji Marshall comes through, picks 610 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 5: up the ball. So there's been big moments where Billy 611 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 5: would probably like to have over again. And just passing 612 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: on that knowledge of someone like Reese and going I've 613 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 5: made those mistakes, and Reese just looking at Billy and 614 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 5: he just saw the respect he had. 615 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: Just like two men in the baby, wasn't it. 616 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: Then? How cute he mustache? 617 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: That can be? 618 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: Uncle Tom, what do you think? 619 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 8: Look, I hear what you're saying. 620 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 7: And I reckon, we've just forgotten a little bit about 621 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 7: the fractured eye socker, you know, like that would have 622 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 7: knocked him around as far as confidence he's concerned. He 623 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 7: had to have the funny old ed gear on and 624 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: it took him a couple of weeks to find his 625 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 7: groove again. And I just reckon that is a contributing 626 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 7: factor that probably is unspoken about. Wouldn't be surprised if 627 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 7: the Blues spoke We spoke about this last year. 628 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 8: The aerial raid, and didn't he prove us wrong? 629 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to bet it don't please because 630 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: I remember on the show we said they should and 631 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: they should try and bash the email, and he just 632 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: went he was too good for us. 633 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: I think Billy's come back into Reese Walsh's life at 634 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: just the right time, because when Billy became Great Gordy, 635 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: it was attention to detail as they spoke about there, 636 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 4: and it was on the ball and off the ball, 637 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 4: it was in attack and defense and at the moment 638 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: and the way Reese has been playing this year, there's 639 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: those moments of absolute brilliance, the blinding speed, the silky skills, 640 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 4: but then he plays overplays his handy, he goes for 641 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: the all or nothing play too often, and there's just 642 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: you can see in the Broncos against the Titans. The 643 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: way they started that game last week, they should have 644 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: won by a hundred points and then and then it 645 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: turned into a game of touch football. And to me, 646 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: that's that's why they lost the game, and it's also 647 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: why they lost the Grand Final. If he go back 648 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: to the Grand Final, that final try that that Nathan 649 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: Cleary scored, there was three or four of them that 650 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: clocked off the job, including Reese. 651 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: He just didn't move across from marker off the ball. 652 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: And that's where Reese when he's got the ball, he's 653 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: he's he is ridiculous. And the way he started the 654 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 5: game on Sunday, I caught it. It was unbelievable. But 655 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: the stay in the game play eighty minutes when I 656 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 5: don't have the ball, What does my team need. 657 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: Me to do? Now? Well, that's what you mean, Billy, 658 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: that's what we need next week. And of course absolutely. 659 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: There's a few doubts around Greece, but I certainly don't 660 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: doubt him. I think he's an absolute genius. It's time 661 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: now to take a look at the inns and out. 662 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: It's for around thirty and all thanks to the tab 663 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: and here they are big one for the Eels. Gatherson 664 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and Moses name to return. Trindle makes he's in an 665 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: all return with Heinz kick out out for up to 666 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: six weeks with his finger injury. Lauri and Schneider had 667 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: a partner in the halves of the Panthers and Rava. 668 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: Lawa dropped a reserve grade for the Dragons. But the 669 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: big one there is Gatherson and Moses back for the Eels. 670 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: Cool, yeah, the Eels. 671 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: It was interesting during the week here and Dylan Brown 672 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: come out and basically can side that that Brad Arthur's sacking. 673 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: You know, the players are taking ownership for that. It's 674 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: a good thing because Moses and Guthus and the two 675 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: players that you can't pin the blame on. Guthuson never 676 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: plays a bad game for paramatter and Moses was in 677 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: great forum before he was injured. But for mine, Dylan 678 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: Brown is the poster boy of the talent that's in 679 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 4: that Paramatta team and the unfulfilled talent. 680 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: You go back to the. 681 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: Pacific Nation's semi final last year. He wasn't cited in 682 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: that game. A week later he comes out he's just 683 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: about the best player on the field. He let Paramatta 684 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: down last year with the suspension for the off field incident. 685 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: He owed them something this year and I just don't 686 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: think and across the board this Paramatta team haven't repaid 687 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: the coach yet. They say, you know, we're responsible for 688 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: the coach going, but they're responsible for their own form. 689 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: Are you ma A good point? 690 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: And Dylan definitely easy better than what he has been 691 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. He's got so much potential. 692 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: It's just the inconsistency. Now, what's going on with the coach? 693 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: And I imaged too candidates are in Origin camp. Any 694 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: update for us? 695 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, Look, I understand that the Eels are pushing 696 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 7: forward as far as trying to find their next coach. Look, 697 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 7: let's put it into context. It's the most significant decision 698 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 7: in eleven years. They haven't had to make this call 699 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: and which is why they are chipping away at it. 700 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 7: My understanding is they should have a short list by 701 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 7: the end of this week and by a short list 702 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 7: I reckon less than five candidates. So we're going to 703 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 7: start to get a clear picture on what this looks 704 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 7: like the troubled to your point five is there, Well, 705 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 7: it's a pretty cream job big football club. 706 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: Is there a chance of Luke Bert and Nathan Cale. 707 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 5: It's just because they don't have big powerful managers and 708 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 5: are not out there and you know they're not in 709 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: the circus. But they've done a great apprenticeship. They were 710 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: at one of the hardest teams to play against Paramatta 711 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: in the early two thousands. They've done a great apprenticeship. 712 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: They're under Brian Smith. Just because they don't have a 713 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: high profile doesn't mean that they're not the right point 714 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: for the job. 715 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 7: Fair point of one of the key parameters the eels 716 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 7: I understand a looking at they want to coach that 717 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 7: knows what success looks like. 718 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 8: They've been in successful systems. 719 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: Prov you signed with South. 720 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. 721 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 7: And also they know they're from a high performance background. 722 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 7: You know, so they have high performance. 723 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: What does that mean, Well, they've. 724 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 7: Worked in high performance environments of success, Top aids, top 725 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 7: fours previously manage McGuire. 726 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: That's it. 727 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: Well, there's plenty of Josh Jason. What success have they 728 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: had they've worked in the current Jason rolls currently Melbourne. 729 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 5: If I coach that pan the Roosters and Melbourne Storm 730 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 5: in the last ten years of won nine Grand Finals 731 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: and my good coach sitting behind Craig Trent. 732 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 8: You would like to and you'd like to think you've 733 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 8: learned a little. 734 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm not coaching sitting there, You're not. 735 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 8: Now one gets an opportunity, then, Gordy. 736 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: You've got to coach. You've got to go coach. You 737 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: think any system experience. If you're not coaching, you're not coaching. 738 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: It is as simple as that. 739 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 5: If you're a co pole, can you turn the steering wheel? 740 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: Oh made his one five bathists? No, No, you've got 741 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: to be You've got to have your hands on the wheel. 742 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 5: And I think unless you're coaching today, you're not a coach. 743 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 8: Imagine that only for you, Goody Well. 744 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 5: If that's what they're looking for success a Grand Final winner. 745 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: It's Madge Maguire and he's just turned New South Wales 746 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 5: up on its head. 747 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: All right, what do you get to a break that 748 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: you dave? 749 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: What from back? 750 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: Paul Well? 751 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: Play up next? 752 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: To it's the players perspective with James Graham and Mitchell 753 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: Piece and following in the L three sixty it's the 754 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: latest edition of The Manor on this podcast