Speaker 1: Better than the lego better leg.
Speaker 2: I was talking footy in our coops the past month
Speaker 2: in particular, there's been some really unusual score lines, some blowouts,
Speaker 2: but lots of points scored forty to thirty six, forty
Speaker 2: to thirty four, forty eight, thirty and so on. What
Speaker 2: is is drinking its post origin quicker rucks from the referees.
Speaker 3: Have you been watching the footy while having some beers.
Speaker 1: On the I listen.
Speaker 2: I wasn't having a lot of beers, but I was
Speaker 2: working at two o'clock every morning.
Speaker 1: I actually worked out.
Speaker 3: Good to have your back anyway, I'll be watching the.
Speaker 1: I realized when I was away with what real work is.
Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it over there. It was
Speaker 1: good to answer your question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there has been some blows, and I think there's
Speaker 3: a gap between the haves and the haves not. The
Speaker 3: reason why I say has is like storm panthers, like
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what mood they're in, doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: time here, the position on the ladder. They just have
Speaker 3: this consistency about them that they will fight for every
Speaker 3: inch every time they lace up their boot. That's the
Speaker 3: thing that you get confidence as a fan watching your team,
Speaker 3: but they have knots well. I feel like it depends
Speaker 3: on what mood they're in whether they can play footy
Speaker 3: today or not. Because their best football I'm talking like
Speaker 3: the Broncos and the Warriors, the Cowboys on the weekend,
Speaker 3: their best football is finals, but their worst football is
Speaker 3: there's a huge gap between.
Speaker 2: It keeps the best example of that, let let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Titans. We were saying just recently tightened to
Speaker 2: that terrible start of the season. With the better start
Speaker 2: and the way they've been playing or same, my god,
Speaker 2: not just in the top eight, they'd be starting to
Speaker 2: press the top four. And then you get I mean,
Speaker 2: explain this to me. Two weeks ago, their second half
Speaker 2: against the Broncos they win thirty six nil, probably one
Speaker 2: of the greatest halves.
Speaker 1: Of football in that club club's history.
Speaker 2: The next half of football the next week, the first
Speaker 2: half against the Sharks, they get beat thirty nil, one
Speaker 2: of their worst How can a professional rugby league side,
Speaker 2: how can that happen?
Speaker 3: I think if you are consistent from the first day
Speaker 3: in November in pre season, you'll be consistent on Grand
Speaker 3: Final day. If you are inconsistent throughout the weeks, you
Speaker 3: will get a great performance one day and you'll get
Speaker 3: a poor performance the next. And I feel like when
Speaker 3: it comes back to how can you answer and how
Speaker 3: can we put like a number on why this is
Speaker 3: such a big gap. It has to be individual accountability.
Speaker 3: It can't be anything more than that, because if you
Speaker 3: and I feel like we're going to play day, I'm
Speaker 3: going to work hard. I'm going to help you be
Speaker 3: the best player we can be. I think we get
Speaker 3: a great performance. But if I sit back and go, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to going to work, I'm going to let
Speaker 3: Matthew do the work today. I just don't feel like
Speaker 3: it today. I think that's when you get your inconsistency,
Speaker 3: and that's the performance. You don't have to be dramatically off.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking like a fifty cent mindset shift. I'm
Speaker 3: talking one two three percent because you can't have the performances.
Speaker 3: And the Broncos are exactly the same poor performances for
Speaker 3: six weeks. Down at halftime against the Cowboy's away from Home,
Speaker 3: There's season has been on line for a month. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what that was. Some of the best football
Speaker 3: I've seen a player at ages.
Speaker 2: It is I just go back to that Titans versus
Speaker 2: the Broncos game for a sec because being over there,
Speaker 2: I didn't get an opportunity saw some of the games,
Speaker 2: but not all of them.
Speaker 1: What happened in that second half.
Speaker 2: Because is it almost like the Broncos submitted, because it
Speaker 2: seems to say, but if it was hazard a guess,
Speaker 2: I would say that that first half against Cronulla has
Speaker 2: been a byproduct against playing against the side forty minutes
Speaker 2: before they're basically totally surroundered and let them just do
Speaker 2: whatever they want.
Speaker 3: We always say, you know, compliments sort of yes, shift
Speaker 3: your focus, whereas criticisms sharpens your sword. And I think
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of complacency, a little bit of
Speaker 3: pat in the back, a little bit of all of that.
Speaker 3: But the thing about the Titans performance is like those
Speaker 3: wins and the teams that win the Grand Final is
Speaker 3: because laid the foundation in November. It's not let it
Speaker 3: turn up in round twenty. Go all right, now we're
Speaker 3: going to play. I think the teams that have really
Speaker 3: high highs and low lows, inconsistent training means inconsistent on
Speaker 3: game day.
Speaker 2: With that theme, took the rise of the Kennary Bulldogs
Speaker 2: and you're saying about how winning starts in the off season,
Speaker 2: laying the bed rock down, giving yourself that big, strong base.
Speaker 2: You can see with the Bulldogs the way they're playing
Speaker 2: their football camera Sorealdo had the real vision of how
Speaker 2: we wanted to play, and they've recruited on that, etc.
Speaker 2: And I'll just go back, I'll take a little stlf
Speaker 2: step back there for a second. This is why one
Speaker 2: of the things I don't get is when a club
Speaker 2: decides I think it's time to move someone on a coach.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what to say. Face, Let's give
Speaker 2: you the first six rounds of next year. Well, it
Speaker 2: doesn't work because in the off season you are putting
Speaker 2: down your principles and your ideas. Now, with the Bulldogs,
Speaker 2: you can see that they recruited, they've done everything. Everything
Speaker 2: they've done is geared towards the way they want to play.
Speaker 2: The traditional Bulldogs pack, a big, strong, and aggressive this
Speaker 2: i'd reckon is the smallest pack in the competition, the Bulldogs,
Speaker 2: But he's just playing a different playing a very cerebral
Speaker 2: type of football, light feet through the middle, short passing.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's going great guns.
Speaker 3: To back up that foundation stuff. There's a reason why
Speaker 3: Craig Bewmy wins every round one under his coaching is
Speaker 3: because he's layered the foundation. There's a reason why teams
Speaker 3: make your Grand Final and then miss the finals the
Speaker 3: next week, they haven't laid the foundation. In terms of
Speaker 3: the Dogs, like, I love that Sieraldo hasn't changed his
Speaker 3: approach because he is the architect of the Penrith defense,
Speaker 3: the best defense we've seen, right, and then he gets
Speaker 3: the Dogs and his first year a bad defensive team,
Speaker 3: you know, the worst in the competition, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: change the system. He gets people into to understand it better.
Speaker 3: He gets repetition and after doing hours and hours of work,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're in the top bracket, the
Speaker 3: best offensive team. So they've got workers, they've got commitment.
Speaker 3: The system hasn't changed. It got just people being more
Speaker 3: effective and what's the rowd they needs him to do?
Speaker 2: And from round one the football they're playing this year,
Speaker 2: they attempted to play that football from round one and
Speaker 2: they haven't so much changed. I mean behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: week to week you might just get a tiny little change,
Speaker 2: but they've laned a game plan and a principle down
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to play it. And as
Speaker 2: a byproduct of not changing it up, every player as
Speaker 2: it inside out, and once that starts to happen, you
Speaker 2: can start to form combinations. Like the first combination that
Speaker 2: really formed was left hand Burton Kickou Bronson Cherry. But
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the middlemen they're smaller blokes
Speaker 2: that they're starting to form combination. And then finally the
Speaker 2: right edge Toby Sexton, kind of Tracy, Jacob Preston and
Speaker 2: Stephen Crichton. So they've got these beautiful little combinations, these
Speaker 2: pockets of combination right across field.
Speaker 3: I think the I think Stephen Crichton started the year
Speaker 3: at left center and it had all the ingrediens to
Speaker 3: be the most dominant left sign but for defensively and
Speaker 3: the team first mentality, Crichton had to go to the right.
Speaker 3: They're really sure that side defensively, and he's done a
Speaker 3: wonderful job. The other part too, is they're a small
Speaker 3: forward pack, but they're getting the job done through heart
Speaker 3: and character. The flip side is of it, they missed
Speaker 3: a lot of tackles. They missed more tackles than the
Speaker 3: dragons on the weekend. Can that scramble defense, the ones
Speaker 3: where they miss a lot. Can it stop Penrith? Can
Speaker 3: it stop Storm? Who don't miss opportunities when given?
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Coop, I think there's two types of misses,
Speaker 2: and the tackles that they are missing or get it
Speaker 2: marked down on the street that are missing I think
Speaker 2: are low risk miss miss tackles. So it's like this,
Speaker 2: if you move up in the line, nice and strong
Speaker 2: and you kick out and he bounces off you, you
Speaker 2: get that as a miss, but it's not. It's a
Speaker 2: It's not a bad miss missed to a line break
Speaker 2: absolutely to a quick play there you find your sitting
Speaker 2: on your hurls and they just go straight through you.
Speaker 1: That's a costly miss because it's a smaller pack of forwards.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hitting and players bouncing off, but
Speaker 2: other guys are making the tackles, so they're not bad misses.
Speaker 3: And the challenge will be can Marnie kirk Man, Josh
Speaker 3: Karen can they do it to Fish? Harris Leoda? Can
Speaker 3: they do it to Nelson? Those bigger packs consistently? But
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, they're working very hard for.
Speaker 2: One another moment, a couple of players want to talk
Speaker 2: about first time we're talking about Kurt Man. And it's
Speaker 2: clear the camera in Serraaldo has given Kurt Man clear
Speaker 2: instructions and clear boundaries. Newcastle, they almost let Kurt do
Speaker 2: whatever he wanted to a certain extent. And you know,
Speaker 2: he was trying to do a little bit of everything,
Speaker 2: and he tied himself in knots and.
Speaker 1: That he had no breaks. You're seeing Kurt nearly all
Speaker 1: of the time.
Speaker 2: He's running just late footwork, Pogan through the line, play
Speaker 2: the ball quick, occasionally a nice little pass, the short
Speaker 2: passer out the back. He's playing. He's just playing. It's
Speaker 2: the best football I've seen ing players career. He's still
Speaker 2: got a little bit of old Kurt in him. There's
Speaker 2: just and that is sometimes he gets he gets married
Speaker 2: to a decision too long. Look, here's an example here
Speaker 2: where he's trying to force a little bit.
Speaker 3: He overplays his hand big time. Here, Kurt Man, because
Speaker 3: right now, stop there. If he goes inside shoulder on
Speaker 3: Mariner creates one on one with kick al and Ben
Speaker 3: Hunt try it, yep, but he is trying to finesse this.
Speaker 3: He's already got to his target defender. He overplays it.
Speaker 3: And turns over the ball. But he all he need
Speaker 3: to do is go arrow straight the inside shoulder Mariner
Speaker 3: and that is a try.
Speaker 2: And that was that was a lot of times for
Speaker 2: the tailor of tape at Newcastle. I'd see him, I'd
Speaker 2: see Kurt and it was a little bit with Connor
Speaker 2: Watson when.
Speaker 1: He was there as well. The high spured, high energy players.
Speaker 2: But if you let that, if you let those players basically,
Speaker 2: if you don't put boundaries.
Speaker 1: Around, they're going to do They're going to tie himselves
Speaker 1: are not sometimes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the one thing he probably need to learn
Speaker 3: on that play is count the numbers. Once you've got
Speaker 3: the advantage as a ball player, you don't need to
Speaker 3: go sidewones. You've got the five on four, the four
Speaker 3: and three. It's go straight to create the advantage outside.
Speaker 3: Good performance and he since he's coming to that football side,
Speaker 3: they've gone from strength to strength and so is he. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they started off with Drew Hutchinson's steady hand,
Speaker 3: good organizer, but this kid's added to it. Like this
Speaker 3: couple of tri Sissy had here. Nice kick that's instinct
Speaker 3: that's drifting across the field with time and space and
Speaker 3: reacting but this one here is very smart. He's got
Speaker 3: that there's a kick gain, but understands the instinct, gets
Speaker 3: the freedom to do it, but try late on for
Speaker 3: bronze and cherry by pass.
Speaker 1: This is very smart sugam in it. And that's that's
Speaker 1: a tough pass.
Speaker 2: That that flat cut out pass and decision at the
Speaker 2: last moment, that's that's a that's a really.
Speaker 3: Tough ball Ben Hunt. He realized Ben Hunt turns in
Speaker 3: on kick out and just opens up that space and
Speaker 3: threw a bullet past the cherry. So I think he's
Speaker 3: added to And I think the other part or the
Speaker 3: indication that says you've been an effective halfback is the
Speaker 3: space that he's providing for Connor Tracy and Matt Burton.
Speaker 3: Those guys are getting a lot of touches and cause
Speaker 3: them damage.
Speaker 2: God, what about the role they're on at the moment.
Speaker 2: Give me a predicted finish. There's one hundred bucks. You
Speaker 2: tell me where they finish.
Speaker 3: I think they finish fifth. I think they play a
Speaker 3: home final right at the end of the Yet, yeah,
Speaker 3: i think they've got a core almost sold out. Whoever
Speaker 3: they're playing. They will win Week one and then it's
Speaker 3: whether that forward pack can go away to the loser
Speaker 3: of the type and beat their big forward pack, because
Speaker 3: you imagine, like the Roosters would be pretty scary for
Speaker 3: that forward pack to handle. I love what their edge
Speaker 3: defense is doing. Yeah, but it's just whether they can
Speaker 3: win that week two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my gud Phil will be the same.
Speaker 2: Second week of the finals would would be a fit
Speaker 2: amazing achievement. I supposedly get if they get through that
Speaker 2: first week and they come up against the Roosters or
Speaker 2: a Storm or Sharks, one of those sides, they'll go
Speaker 2: in with that underdog mentality as we've.
Speaker 1: Been playing all year.
Speaker 2: But jeez, I just think depending on what side of
Speaker 2: the droy you sit on, Boyd's, it'd be.
Speaker 3: Too fair against the Dragons. They've got a big, powerful
Speaker 3: food pack and there was a lot of reasons for
Speaker 3: the Dragons to play well against the Dogs, and they
Speaker 3: got the job done. Kurt Man vision. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of space for kirk Man to do his thing.
Speaker 3: That's the way the Dogs need to play. They need
Speaker 3: space for the little men to use their footwork and
Speaker 3: their passing game.
Speaker 1: It was soon a bit of comebackside than the peneth.
Speaker 3: That like it was. It was scary. Good for the
Speaker 3: to be just.
Speaker 1: Ticking down and you run out of time.
Speaker 2: You got fourteen points to pick up, and you just
Speaker 2: don't panic whatsoever and just get it done.
Speaker 3: When Liam Martin went to the sin bin, they actually
Speaker 3: went up a gear like go back and watch the play.
Speaker 3: The bull speed, the intensity at which they ran, their
Speaker 3: ability just to get into this. Here was the player
Speaker 3: that sealed it. Poor defense from powermatter in that period
Speaker 3: of time. In the last ten minutes, I ao Nathan Cleary, Yeah,
Speaker 3: very very good. I loved it. When they were under
Speaker 3: pressure they actually went a bit harder.
Speaker 2: And the setup or the big comeback, the setup for
Speaker 2: that is the first thirty minutes of football we have seen.
Speaker 2: They have got so much trust in the way they play.
Speaker 2: As far as the inside balls starting, I've I've been
Speaker 2: watching them a little bit and start to think are
Speaker 2: they starting a little too conservative? But the inside balls,
Speaker 2: inside balls, inside balls, and as no coincidence, with about
Speaker 2: fifteen to go, you can see the opposition the middle
Speaker 2: start that hit the ball.
Speaker 3: Before the taruva try so that they score through Brian
Speaker 3: Tore and they get the kickoff set and it's not
Speaker 3: Penrith's system it's shift right, shift left, shift right. They
Speaker 3: went nineteen meters, got an attacking kicking from clear in
Speaker 3: taruver scores. Right then, I thought, oh, there are a
Speaker 3: big chances chasing down this school board here.
Speaker 2: I once spoke to interview the Great huban Omen about
Speaker 2: riding Winks, and he said, no matter how far it
Speaker 2: got behind, he said, I barely had to pull a whip.
Speaker 2: He said, I would just let Winks tell me what
Speaker 2: it was right to go nice, impatience. Here's an example
Speaker 2: here right, Look this Wink stakes and that's on the outside,
Speaker 2: the first on the outside in the in the blue
Speaker 2: and white.
Speaker 1: Right there.
Speaker 2: You think yourself, Nu can't pick him up? Remember this race,
Speaker 2: and you go no, no, no, no, no no. But
Speaker 2: from Hugh there's no panic whatsoever. Gives a little bit
Speaker 2: of a tickle, but mainly hands and heels and ends
Speaker 2: up winning in a canter.
Speaker 1: Huey Bowman's Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 3: I was wondering that you put an allergy between Winks
Speaker 3: and Clearer. Is just showing me how much money you
Speaker 3: had on Winks that day.
Speaker 1: I didn't that day.
Speaker 2: I thought it's due to loss, it's dual loss. I
Speaker 2: did back, but you know what I mean, you're sitting
Speaker 2: there every time Winks ran, everyone to be standing in
Speaker 2: the pub, all the club and just.
Speaker 1: Going no, no, no, not today, not today. And then Runners.
Speaker 3: The other impressive thing about whether it's Winks is on
Speaker 3: the Unbeate run or Beenth, you just feel like there's
Speaker 3: going to be a flat spot, but there just isn't.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Nathan's out for how many weeks? Is Leuais steps and
Speaker 3: gets your job done? Dylan Edwards was terrific. Nathan comes
Speaker 3: back down by what is it fourteen with tend to go,
Speaker 3: they get the job done. Grand Final, like there's it's
Speaker 3: just it's scary good.
Speaker 1: It's still there to lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are pole position absolutely, I don't know, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what else Skeets said. They are absolutely the
Speaker 3: favorites right now.
Speaker 1: And they've had this certain amount of luck.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Nathan, he's playing fresh,
Speaker 2: he's like different times through this amazing dynasty they've had.
Speaker 2: They have lost key players at different manument, but it's worked.
Speaker 3: For it and they're winning different ways too. It's not
Speaker 3: as if they've won one way the whole time. They've
Speaker 3: had challenges behind injuries whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Terrific club, terrific Sharks interesting. On the weekend, we spoke
Speaker 2: to this for another example of becurse of key men,
Speaker 2: missing key creative men being basically being forced to simply
Speaker 2: simplify your football.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about all the flowery stuff.
Speaker 2: Just get back to really simple, direct power football and
Speaker 2: how you suddenly find your best stuff. Like on the weekend,
Speaker 2: Blake Brailey's playing half back and they just simplified. They
Speaker 2: did less, they passed the ball sideways less, They just
Speaker 2: were very simple power game and that's that's how they
Speaker 2: should play.
Speaker 3: It was a perfect storm for the Sharks for on
Speaker 3: the weekend because injuries simplifying football, make a really basic approach.
Speaker 3: And on the other side of the field, well, they
Speaker 3: got a little bit too carry away with themselves, the Titans,
Speaker 3: and just came out lacking intensity, lacking commitment, and it
Speaker 3: just really set them on the course. To you, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if Heinz comes back in or not, like
Speaker 3: that's how they should play. Then give him the ability
Speaker 3: to row him around the field and come up with.
Speaker 2: What do you think firstly about the Sharks right predicted
Speaker 2: to finish, what do you think they'll.
Speaker 3: Finish top four. But the thing that happens with the
Speaker 3: Sharks is they haven't won a finals game on a fitzgiven.
Speaker 3: I don't think they've gone out straight sets and then
Speaker 3: out can So there's going to be some nervous tension
Speaker 3: when the Sharks play their first finally and they're going
Speaker 3: to finish fourth. I means here going to play Melbourne
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, which they've done all penner. Depending on what
Speaker 3: happens this weekend, so I think they'll lose Week one,
Speaker 3: but then it's up to them the win Week two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let us lose again and then if they've.
Speaker 3: Got someone like the Dogs, depending on how the ladder
Speaker 3: falls in place, that's a big challenge, is not wrong.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be going out three years in
Speaker 2: a row like that. That leaves a pretty nasty scar paramatter.
Speaker 2: This is interesting Jason Rosey, You've had a lot of Rosy.
Speaker 2: He has got the biggest job in my opinion, this
Speaker 2: coming up this offseason. He's trying to move players on
Speaker 2: at the moment. The last one is ringing Hemil Gillard.
Speaker 2: He's told like a sub and go Ryan Madison's the same,
Speaker 2: but they get no takers at the moment. Meanwhile, probably
Speaker 2: the bigger issue is the rumors that are going, well,
Speaker 2: they've lost Blaze. Rumors are starting to go around always
Speaker 2: do about Dylan Brown and the ridiculous contract and.
Speaker 1: Clauses he's signed.
Speaker 2: Well, the latest one has been around Mitchell Moses, which
Speaker 2: was originally that they would probably look to exercise his
Speaker 2: clause at the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: He going, Oh my god, the end of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Long, A lot of stuff's going to happen between now
Speaker 2: and then, But then rumors abound, whether it be true
Speaker 2: or not. I'm not sure that he may aggravate for
Speaker 2: an early release.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what to make of all the noise,
Speaker 3: what it's true, what's not, what is reality? But if
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Ryles, he may have done this already. He
Speaker 3: may not have. But I'm getting Moses, Brown, Guthson, Will Peraccini,
Speaker 3: and maybe one or two others, and I'm getting them
Speaker 3: over to my house for dinner, and I'm saying, listen,
Speaker 3: this is what I can do, this is the dream,
Speaker 3: this is what I can sell. We're going to work
Speaker 3: our backsides off, and what you think is paramounta Now
Speaker 3: will not be in six months time because all this
Speaker 3: noise is not good. He really needs to get some
Speaker 3: cut through the noise. Jason Rolls and I bore those
Speaker 3: key guys and get them to buy in.
Speaker 1: No matter how much.
Speaker 2: If I was Jason Rolls, Mitchell may agitate it for
Speaker 2: a release.
Speaker 1: Never how much. You cannot release him.
Speaker 2: Because a halfback of Nathan Cleary, Mitchell moses soone that
Speaker 2: their quality you just can't replace them.
Speaker 3: A little bit. Example is Shane Flanagan with Ben Hunt.
Speaker 3: He was gone this time last year, and all it
Speaker 3: takes is a conversation, build a rapport and get someone
Speaker 3: to buy into what you're doing. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: turn that around. So I think that comes down to
Speaker 3: Jason Roles. There's it's a bucket load of noise and
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what is true or not. But if
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Rolls, I'm getting those guys and I'm selling
Speaker 3: this is what I need is in here, this is
Speaker 3: what we're doing.
Speaker 2: I just spoke about Blaze to Lungey off to Penris,
Speaker 2: which is big move for Blaze. Who he's going to play.
Speaker 2: There was talk they said they're going to they see
Speaker 2: him as a six Now, Initially when I heard that,
Speaker 2: I thought it doesn't appear like a six.
Speaker 1: But if you've got if you got.
Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary and Isa, you don't really need a bloke
Speaker 2: in the six finessa the football around.
Speaker 3: I think it's the right position for him At Penrith.
Speaker 3: He's had some fullback stuff for his score and tries.
Speaker 3: He's been on the wing center. On the weekend he
Speaker 3: got carved up by the Panthers defensively, like some of
Speaker 3: the decisions he made was part of the reason why
Speaker 3: Parentuth came back. But this kid can play. And again
Speaker 3: it's like disrespecting Paramatta, but he's going to a club
Speaker 3: that is going to invest in his development, like he
Speaker 3: is going to sit in the shotgun seat to Nathan
Speaker 3: Cleary and learn, Like it's pretty good. And he's Mitch
Speaker 3: Moses currently at the club and something's happened there that
Speaker 3: says that he wants to go. He's not going to
Speaker 3: play and halves of paramatter, So maybe that's where he
Speaker 3: wants to play. And I like it at Penrith. I
Speaker 3: like that position.
Speaker 2: Like we said before, it's their comp to lose. Again,
Speaker 2: Nathan's still a very young player. How is it twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty six seven, We'll played for at least another ten years.
Speaker 2: How many comps are going to win? I'm looking at
Speaker 2: four in a row now, continue on this trajectory, it's
Speaker 2: just kind of get scary.
Speaker 1: Playmakers just get better.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the one thing that stops panis? Give me
Speaker 3: something that stops Penrith. We're literally luck here.
Speaker 1: Well as far as this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this season, just this season right here.
Speaker 2: I think I think the biggest one is probably injury.
Speaker 2: I think an injury to Nathan because it just appears
Speaker 2: as though they can absorb the loss of just about
Speaker 2: everyone else. It's incredible still at Edward's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know there's any coincident. On the weekend, they didn't look
Speaker 2: anywhere as near as effective without Dylane was there.
Speaker 1: He's one, Nathan's the other. Is there anyone else? Now?
Speaker 1: I think they can absorb the loss.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think when it gets down to prelim final,
Speaker 3: Grand Final, it is the best players dominating the other
Speaker 3: best players. So it is, for example, Thursday night, it's
Speaker 3: two teams Penrith and Melbourne. Great game styles. We know
Speaker 3: history says that it's good enough to win, but Ken
Speaker 3: Jerome hughes out point Nathan on the day, so he's
Speaker 3: going to take star power in the opposition.
Speaker 2: To be So that's the thing about it, Coops, you
Speaker 2: know what's going to stop them and I go loss
Speaker 2: of form. They don't drop form because they all know
Speaker 2: what they have to do inside out and.
Speaker 3: Not a team that will lack accountability. Like we spoke
Speaker 3: about before about I don't feel like playing today, even
Speaker 3: if you don't feel like, there's a responsibility to pull
Speaker 3: on the Penrith jersey. So you almost have to expect
Speaker 3: the best case scenario for Penrith when you play them,
Speaker 3: and then how do you beat the best case Well,
Speaker 3: fight fire with fire, good defense, good completion rate. They
Speaker 3: give them opportunities, but when you get your chance, you
Speaker 3: better take it.
Speaker 2: As we start to shift to talk about the Broncos
Speaker 2: because we haven't done the show for a little while
Speaker 2: now and it's worth discussing.
Speaker 3: You've been on holidays for a month.
Speaker 2: Let me see it once again, mate, It was eight
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, sometimes finished at two o'clock, covering
Speaker 2: all sports fencing. Okay, we're about to talk about the Broncos.
Speaker 2: But when you talk about okay, the reason. What is
Speaker 2: the primary reason why it's been such a blood a
Speaker 2: season for the Broncos. Well, we say oftentimes is success
Speaker 2: tests your metal.
Speaker 1: That's what it does.
Speaker 2: So to take a step backwards we're just spoke speaking
Speaker 2: about then, don't you tip your lead to the Melbourne
Speaker 2: Storm the Penrith Panthers, regardless of the success individually and collectively,
Speaker 2: they just the fire and the belly doesn't go out.
Speaker 3: Always find a reason why. And the Broncos haven't really
Speaker 3: on their reason why. You could say our origin, you
Speaker 3: could say loss of Renolds, you could, but you could
Speaker 3: say that for Melbourne, Melbourne lost, Mounster parents lost. Clear,
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. But the work ethic from everyone
Speaker 3: else covers the loss of that.
Speaker 2: Is a big football mad city like Brisbane and oftentimes
Speaker 2: the one team.
Speaker 3: So they've struggled in the last six weeks, the Bronx
Speaker 3: big Tom but their second half performance. There was a
Speaker 3: moment in that game where in a seventy fifth minute
Speaker 3: or something, Cartoni Stags turns the ball over by making
Speaker 3: a good tackle. Defensively, Ris Walsh runs almost as of score.
Speaker 3: Cartoni Stags is the right center. He made the tackle
Speaker 3: force the eerror he ends up scoring as left center.
Speaker 3: That effort from Cartoni Stags to do that here and
Speaker 3: then down there, it just has not been enough of
Speaker 3: that that. That's I saw it. I noticed it, and
Speaker 3: I thought, that's why the Broncos aren't doing what they're doing.
Speaker 3: There is not seventeen players doing that. Whereas you could
Speaker 3: have done that and any game of the Broncos last
Speaker 3: year and would have seen an effort like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, across the board, that's sort of effort you're Broncos fan,
Speaker 2: if your Kevy waalders. More to the point, you're looking
Speaker 2: game fell us, where was where was that six weeks
Speaker 2: ago when we needed to do something? This weekend coups,
Speaker 2: there are some huge games in terms of top two,
Speaker 2: top four, top eight Penrith versus the Storm.
Speaker 1: Are you liking this one?
Speaker 3: It's a pen well obviously Panthers. But I'm going to
Speaker 3: go down the path of what I just said that
Speaker 3: I think this is the type of game Monster arrives
Speaker 3: or he doesn't arrive.
Speaker 1: He's already yeah, but has his impact on this yeah.
Speaker 3: I think so. Like he's been injured out for a bit,
Speaker 3: Nathan's the superstar opposite him, there's just something that Monster.
Speaker 3: I might play a hell of a.
Speaker 2: Game scratchy the Melbourne Storm the last few weeks, but
Speaker 2: the bottom line that the Spine has barely.
Speaker 1: Played all together. You can see why they little clunky.
Speaker 3: They're not a spine that requires ten weeks to get
Speaker 3: to know each other. Months is the type of guy
Speaker 3: that would just come in and do it. Jerome Hughes
Speaker 3: at a sensational year. So if I was to say
Speaker 3: that something might have I think Monster might deliver.
Speaker 2: Now the Dogs, they're pushing towards top four, finished the
Speaker 2: up against the Dolphins, who are pushing trying to consolidate
Speaker 2: that top eight spot.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 2: Really dangerous game for the Dogs because you know that
Speaker 2: Wayne the Dolphins have got to win this one, and
Speaker 2: he'll have them sky high.
Speaker 3: Because the Dolphins have got a tough run after this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so's it was must win against the Warriors and they
Speaker 3: got out of jail then too. Yeah, hard to tough
Speaker 3: to call. This will be super close. I'll say the
Speaker 3: Dogs just because they're playing better.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're going to watch in Bunderberg. Yeah, Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Now on both of these sides, Like Cowboys, what a
Speaker 2: missed opportunity in the weekend dominated the first half of
Speaker 2: only led eighten points to twelve. Second half was considered
Speaker 2: thirty points thirty nil. It's been a little bit like
Speaker 2: the tailor or the tape for the last eighty months
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys Raiders. Both of these sides have got
Speaker 2: to win it.
Speaker 3: Like the cows you just can't trust like they have
Speaker 3: whenever you see them play in terms of names on
Speaker 3: a sheet of paper and the way they can do
Speaker 3: it individual at different stages. All they talk about is
Speaker 3: defensive minds. I say all the right things, but to
Speaker 3: be up eighteen twelve at home against your rival and
Speaker 3: to have a second half like that, yeah, like you
Speaker 3: just can't get confidence from them. And then the Raiders
Speaker 3: on the other hand, well, yeah, again they scrap and fight,
Speaker 3: but they haven't been scrapping and fighting.
Speaker 2: And Dragons are going to win this one. Dragons up
Speaker 2: against the Titans. Titans are going to be well. I
Speaker 2: was going to say they'll be better than last week. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you turn the ross completely over.
Speaker 3: And even the Dragons off the great performance against the
Speaker 3: Storm two weeks ago and then at home sold out
Speaker 3: like there was a lot of reasons for the Dragons
Speaker 3: to really cement themselves. Now they're outside the eight because
Speaker 3: they lost and the Dolphins won. Yeah again, this is
Speaker 3: a bit like the Cowboys and the Raiders.
Speaker 2: And then finally you've got the Knights and the Sharks,
Speaker 2: which is really important. So the Knights can't lose. They're
Speaker 2: on the razors edge as far as making the top eight,
Speaker 2: the Sharks trying to hold onto that top four spot.
Speaker 2: But more than that, the Sharks, wh've got to start
Speaker 2: to prove they can put two really great performances together
Speaker 2: back to back.
Speaker 3: And the thing with the Sharks, yes, back to back
Speaker 3: Titans Knights. The issue with the Sharks is they want
Speaker 3: to win a finals match. They've got it with respect
Speaker 3: an easier run at the back end of this year,
Speaker 3: so they need to win these games like it's a
Speaker 3: tight contest, not like just playing for twenty minutes then
Speaker 3: putting the Q in the rack. Because if you do
Speaker 3: that week one against Penrith.
Speaker 1: Or Melbourne, that's just what we're going to give it
Speaker 1: to you. Radio coops, Good staff man, little jet lagged.
Speaker 2: From watching all that gold, gold, gold, as Norman May
Speaker 2: used to say, probably a little bit before your time.
Speaker 3: Are you standing up now?
Speaker 1: What did you know what I'm