1
00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,679
Speaker 1: Better than the lego better leg.

2
00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 2: I was talking footy in our coops the past month

3
00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,760
Speaker 2: in particular, there's been some really unusual score lines, some blowouts,

4
00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,880
Speaker 2: but lots of points scored forty to thirty six, forty

5
00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,720
Speaker 2: to thirty four, forty eight, thirty and so on. What

6
00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,960
Speaker 2: is is drinking its post origin quicker rucks from the referees.

7
00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,880
Speaker 3: Have you been watching the footy while having some beers.

8
00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,120
Speaker 1: On the I listen.

9
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,519
Speaker 2: I wasn't having a lot of beers, but I was

10
00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,000
Speaker 2: working at two o'clock every morning.

11
00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,000
Speaker 1: I actually worked out.

12
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,519
Speaker 3: Good to have your back anyway, I'll be watching the.

13
00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,360
Speaker 1: I realized when I was away with what real work is.

14
00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it over there. It was

15
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 1: good to answer your question.

16
00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there has been some blows, and I think there's

17
00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080
Speaker 3: a gap between the haves and the haves not. The

18
00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 3: reason why I say has is like storm panthers, like

19
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,240
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what mood they're in, doesn't matter what

20
00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,720
Speaker 3: time here, the position on the ladder. They just have

21
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320
Speaker 3: this consistency about them that they will fight for every

22
00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,600
Speaker 3: inch every time they lace up their boot. That's the

23
00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,119
Speaker 3: thing that you get confidence as a fan watching your team,

24
00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,200
Speaker 3: but they have knots well. I feel like it depends

25
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,679
Speaker 3: on what mood they're in whether they can play footy

26
00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,720
Speaker 3: today or not. Because their best football I'm talking like

27
00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,560
Speaker 3: the Broncos and the Warriors, the Cowboys on the weekend,

28
00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,959
Speaker 3: their best football is finals, but their worst football is

29
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,560
Speaker 3: there's a huge gap between.

30
00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,119
Speaker 2: It keeps the best example of that, let let's talk

31
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,080
Speaker 2: about the Titans. We were saying just recently tightened to

32
00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 2: that terrible start of the season. With the better start

33
00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,200
Speaker 2: and the way they've been playing or same, my god,

34
00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,760
Speaker 2: not just in the top eight, they'd be starting to

35
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,800
Speaker 2: press the top four. And then you get I mean,

36
00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,800
Speaker 2: explain this to me. Two weeks ago, their second half

37
00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,400
Speaker 2: against the Broncos they win thirty six nil, probably one

38
00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,040
Speaker 2: of the greatest halves.

39
00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,440
Speaker 1: Of football in that club club's history.

40
00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,680
Speaker 2: The next half of football the next week, the first

41
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,360
Speaker 2: half against the Sharks, they get beat thirty nil, one

42
00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,360
Speaker 2: of their worst How can a professional rugby league side,

43
00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,680
Speaker 2: how can that happen?

44
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280
Speaker 3: I think if you are consistent from the first day

45
00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,600
Speaker 3: in November in pre season, you'll be consistent on Grand

46
00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,560
Speaker 3: Final day. If you are inconsistent throughout the weeks, you

47
00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,040
Speaker 3: will get a great performance one day and you'll get

48
00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,160
Speaker 3: a poor performance the next. And I feel like when

49
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,799
Speaker 3: it comes back to how can you answer and how

50
00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,960
Speaker 3: can we put like a number on why this is

51
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,520
Speaker 3: such a big gap. It has to be individual accountability.

52
00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,920
Speaker 3: It can't be anything more than that, because if you

53
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,760
Speaker 3: and I feel like we're going to play day, I'm

54
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,079
Speaker 3: going to work hard. I'm going to help you be

55
00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,000
Speaker 3: the best player we can be. I think we get

56
00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,920
Speaker 3: a great performance. But if I sit back and go, oh,

57
00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to going to work, I'm going to let

58
00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,600
Speaker 3: Matthew do the work today. I just don't feel like

59
00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,160
Speaker 3: it today. I think that's when you get your inconsistency,

60
00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,000
Speaker 3: and that's the performance. You don't have to be dramatically off.

61
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm not talking like a fifty cent mindset shift. I'm

62
00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,399
Speaker 3: talking one two three percent because you can't have the performances.

63
00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,400
Speaker 3: And the Broncos are exactly the same poor performances for

64
00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,840
Speaker 3: six weeks. Down at halftime against the Cowboy's away from Home,

65
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 3: There's season has been on line for a month. I'll

66
00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,960
Speaker 3: tell you what that was. Some of the best football

67
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,280
Speaker 3: I've seen a player at ages.

68
00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,480
Speaker 2: It is I just go back to that Titans versus

69
00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,720
Speaker 2: the Broncos game for a sec because being over there,

70
00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,160
Speaker 2: I didn't get an opportunity saw some of the games,

71
00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,440
Speaker 2: but not all of them.

72
00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,040
Speaker 1: What happened in that second half.

73
00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,400
Speaker 2: Because is it almost like the Broncos submitted, because it

74
00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,320
Speaker 2: seems to say, but if it was hazard a guess,

75
00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,400
Speaker 2: I would say that that first half against Cronulla has

76
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,960
Speaker 2: been a byproduct against playing against the side forty minutes

77
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,320
Speaker 2: before they're basically totally surroundered and let them just do

78
00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 2: whatever they want.

79
00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,640
Speaker 3: We always say, you know, compliments sort of yes, shift

80
00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,920
Speaker 3: your focus, whereas criticisms sharpens your sword. And I think

81
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of complacency, a little bit of

82
00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,040
Speaker 3: pat in the back, a little bit of all of that.

83
00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,920
Speaker 3: But the thing about the Titans performance is like those

84
00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 3: wins and the teams that win the Grand Final is

85
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,840
Speaker 3: because laid the foundation in November. It's not let it

86
00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,080
Speaker 3: turn up in round twenty. Go all right, now we're

87
00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280
Speaker 3: going to play. I think the teams that have really

88
00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,400
Speaker 3: high highs and low lows, inconsistent training means inconsistent on

89
00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,240
Speaker 3: game day.

90
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,480
Speaker 2: With that theme, took the rise of the Kennary Bulldogs

91
00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,200
Speaker 2: and you're saying about how winning starts in the off season,

92
00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,680
Speaker 2: laying the bed rock down, giving yourself that big, strong base.

93
00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 2: You can see with the Bulldogs the way they're playing

94
00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,560
Speaker 2: their football camera Sorealdo had the real vision of how

95
00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240
Speaker 2: we wanted to play, and they've recruited on that, etc.

96
00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,440
Speaker 2: And I'll just go back, I'll take a little stlf

97
00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000
Speaker 2: step back there for a second. This is why one

98
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,000
Speaker 2: of the things I don't get is when a club

99
00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,360
Speaker 2: decides I think it's time to move someone on a coach.

100
00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,920
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what to say. Face, Let's give

101
00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,080
Speaker 2: you the first six rounds of next year. Well, it

102
00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,359
Speaker 2: doesn't work because in the off season you are putting

103
00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 2: down your principles and your ideas. Now, with the Bulldogs,

104
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,760
Speaker 2: you can see that they recruited, they've done everything. Everything

105
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,440
Speaker 2: they've done is geared towards the way they want to play.

106
00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,720
Speaker 2: The traditional Bulldogs pack, a big, strong, and aggressive this

107
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,880
Speaker 2: i'd reckon is the smallest pack in the competition, the Bulldogs,

108
00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,440
Speaker 2: But he's just playing a different playing a very cerebral

109
00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,320
Speaker 2: type of football, light feet through the middle, short passing.

110
00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: And it's just it's going great guns.

111
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680
Speaker 3: To back up that foundation stuff. There's a reason why

112
00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,839
Speaker 3: Craig Bewmy wins every round one under his coaching is

113
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,840
Speaker 3: because he's layered the foundation. There's a reason why teams

114
00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520
Speaker 3: make your Grand Final and then miss the finals the

115
00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,120
Speaker 3: next week, they haven't laid the foundation. In terms of

116
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,800
Speaker 3: the Dogs, like, I love that Sieraldo hasn't changed his

117
00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,279
Speaker 3: approach because he is the architect of the Penrith defense,

118
00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,720
Speaker 3: the best defense we've seen, right, and then he gets

119
00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,640
Speaker 3: the Dogs and his first year a bad defensive team,

120
00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,559
Speaker 3: you know, the worst in the competition, but it doesn't

121
00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,400
Speaker 3: change the system. He gets people into to understand it better.

122
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,000
Speaker 3: He gets repetition and after doing hours and hours of work,

123
00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,120
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're in the top bracket, the

124
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,360
Speaker 3: best offensive team. So they've got workers, they've got commitment.

125
00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,480
Speaker 3: The system hasn't changed. It got just people being more

126
00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,600
Speaker 3: effective and what's the rowd they needs him to do?

127
00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,280
Speaker 2: And from round one the football they're playing this year,

128
00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,200
Speaker 2: they attempted to play that football from round one and

129
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,599
Speaker 2: they haven't so much changed. I mean behind the scenes,

130
00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,120
Speaker 2: week to week you might just get a tiny little change,

131
00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,160
Speaker 2: but they've laned a game plan and a principle down

132
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,600
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to play it. And as

133
00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,960
Speaker 2: a byproduct of not changing it up, every player as

134
00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 2: it inside out, and once that starts to happen, you

135
00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,400
Speaker 2: can start to form combinations. Like the first combination that

136
00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,640
Speaker 2: really formed was left hand Burton Kickou Bronson Cherry. But

137
00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,839
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the middlemen they're smaller blokes

138
00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760
Speaker 2: that they're starting to form combination. And then finally the

139
00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,080
Speaker 2: right edge Toby Sexton, kind of Tracy, Jacob Preston and

140
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400
Speaker 2: Stephen Crichton. So they've got these beautiful little combinations, these

141
00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,440
Speaker 2: pockets of combination right across field.

142
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,360
Speaker 3: I think the I think Stephen Crichton started the year

143
00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,919
Speaker 3: at left center and it had all the ingrediens to

144
00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,880
Speaker 3: be the most dominant left sign but for defensively and

145
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,200
Speaker 3: the team first mentality, Crichton had to go to the right.

146
00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,400
Speaker 3: They're really sure that side defensively, and he's done a

147
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440
Speaker 3: wonderful job. The other part too, is they're a small

148
00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,600
Speaker 3: forward pack, but they're getting the job done through heart

149
00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640
Speaker 3: and character. The flip side is of it, they missed

150
00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,760
Speaker 3: a lot of tackles. They missed more tackles than the

151
00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360
Speaker 3: dragons on the weekend. Can that scramble defense, the ones

152
00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 3: where they miss a lot. Can it stop Penrith? Can

153
00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,120
Speaker 3: it stop Storm? Who don't miss opportunities when given?

154
00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,080
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Coop, I think there's two types of misses,

155
00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,160
Speaker 2: and the tackles that they are missing or get it

156
00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,000
Speaker 2: marked down on the street that are missing I think

157
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800
Speaker 2: are low risk miss miss tackles. So it's like this,

158
00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,200
Speaker 2: if you move up in the line, nice and strong

159
00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,520
Speaker 2: and you kick out and he bounces off you, you

160
00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,600
Speaker 2: get that as a miss, but it's not. It's a

161
00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,920
Speaker 2: It's not a bad miss missed to a line break

162
00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,520
Speaker 2: absolutely to a quick play there you find your sitting

163
00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,360
Speaker 2: on your hurls and they just go straight through you.

164
00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,040
Speaker 1: That's a costly miss because it's a smaller pack of forwards.

165
00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of hitting and players bouncing off, but

166
00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,480
Speaker 2: other guys are making the tackles, so they're not bad misses.

167
00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360
Speaker 3: And the challenge will be can Marnie kirk Man, Josh

168
00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,280
Speaker 3: Karen can they do it to Fish? Harris Leoda? Can

169
00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,560
Speaker 3: they do it to Nelson? Those bigger packs consistently? But

170
00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, they're working very hard for.

171
00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000
Speaker 2: One another moment, a couple of players want to talk

172
00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,120
Speaker 2: about first time we're talking about Kurt Man. And it's

173
00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,959
Speaker 2: clear the camera in Serraaldo has given Kurt Man clear

174
00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,360
Speaker 2: instructions and clear boundaries. Newcastle, they almost let Kurt do

175
00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,120
Speaker 2: whatever he wanted to a certain extent. And you know,

176
00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,640
Speaker 2: he was trying to do a little bit of everything,

177
00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,439
Speaker 2: and he tied himself in knots and.

178
00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,080
Speaker 1: That he had no breaks. You're seeing Kurt nearly all

179
00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,559
Speaker 1: of the time.

180
00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600
Speaker 2: He's running just late footwork, Pogan through the line, play

181
00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400
Speaker 2: the ball quick, occasionally a nice little pass, the short

182
00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,480
Speaker 2: passer out the back. He's playing. He's just playing. It's

183
00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,720
Speaker 2: the best football I've seen ing players career. He's still

184
00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,120
Speaker 2: got a little bit of old Kurt in him. There's

185
00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,920
Speaker 2: just and that is sometimes he gets he gets married

186
00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,720
Speaker 2: to a decision too long. Look, here's an example here

187
00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,480
Speaker 2: where he's trying to force a little bit.

188
00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,160
Speaker 3: He overplays his hand big time. Here, Kurt Man, because

189
00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,200
Speaker 3: right now, stop there. If he goes inside shoulder on

190
00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,439
Speaker 3: Mariner creates one on one with kick al and Ben

191
00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,120
Speaker 3: Hunt try it, yep, but he is trying to finesse this.

192
00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,600
Speaker 3: He's already got to his target defender. He overplays it.

193
00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,640
Speaker 3: And turns over the ball. But he all he need

194
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,720
Speaker 3: to do is go arrow straight the inside shoulder Mariner

195
00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:28,600
Speaker 3: and that is a try.

196
00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,320
Speaker 2: And that was that was a lot of times for

197
00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 2: the tailor of tape at Newcastle. I'd see him, I'd

198
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 2: see Kurt and it was a little bit with Connor

199
00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,800
Speaker 2: Watson when.

200
00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640
Speaker 1: He was there as well. The high spured, high energy players.

201
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,080
Speaker 2: But if you let that, if you let those players basically,

202
00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,679
Speaker 2: if you don't put boundaries.

203
00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Around, they're going to do They're going to tie himselves

204
00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,600
Speaker 1: are not sometimes?

205
00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the one thing he probably need to learn

206
00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,640
Speaker 3: on that play is count the numbers. Once you've got

207
00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,040
Speaker 3: the advantage as a ball player, you don't need to

208
00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,080
Speaker 3: go sidewones. You've got the five on four, the four

209
00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,120
Speaker 3: and three. It's go straight to create the advantage outside.

210
00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,280
Speaker 3: Good performance and he since he's coming to that football side,

211
00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,680
Speaker 3: they've gone from strength to strength and so is he. Yeah.

212
00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,640
Speaker 3: I think they started off with Drew Hutchinson's steady hand,

213
00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,480
Speaker 3: good organizer, but this kid's added to it. Like this

214
00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,160
Speaker 3: couple of tri Sissy had here. Nice kick that's instinct

215
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,280
Speaker 3: that's drifting across the field with time and space and

216
00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,800
Speaker 3: reacting but this one here is very smart. He's got

217
00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880
Speaker 3: that there's a kick gain, but understands the instinct, gets

218
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,840
Speaker 3: the freedom to do it, but try late on for

219
00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,280
Speaker 3: bronze and cherry by pass.

220
00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,840
Speaker 1: This is very smart sugam in it. And that's that's

221
00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,600
Speaker 1: a tough pass.

222
00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,319
Speaker 2: That that flat cut out pass and decision at the

223
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 2: last moment, that's that's a that's a really.

224
00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,240
Speaker 3: Tough ball Ben Hunt. He realized Ben Hunt turns in

225
00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,319
Speaker 3: on kick out and just opens up that space and

226
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,319
Speaker 3: threw a bullet past the cherry. So I think he's

227
00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,960
Speaker 3: added to And I think the other part or the

228
00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,320
Speaker 3: indication that says you've been an effective halfback is the

229
00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,440
Speaker 3: space that he's providing for Connor Tracy and Matt Burton.

230
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,520
Speaker 3: Those guys are getting a lot of touches and cause

231
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,160
Speaker 3: them damage.

232
00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,600
Speaker 2: God, what about the role they're on at the moment.

233
00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,920
Speaker 2: Give me a predicted finish. There's one hundred bucks. You

234
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,480
Speaker 2: tell me where they finish.

235
00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,040
Speaker 3: I think they finish fifth. I think they play a

236
00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 3: home final right at the end of the Yet, yeah,

237
00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,400
Speaker 3: i think they've got a core almost sold out. Whoever

238
00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,960
Speaker 3: they're playing. They will win Week one and then it's

239
00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,200
Speaker 3: whether that forward pack can go away to the loser

240
00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,880
Speaker 3: of the type and beat their big forward pack, because

241
00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,440
Speaker 3: you imagine, like the Roosters would be pretty scary for

242
00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,760
Speaker 3: that forward pack to handle. I love what their edge

243
00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,120
Speaker 3: defense is doing. Yeah, but it's just whether they can

244
00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,400
Speaker 3: win that week two.

245
00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my gud Phil will be the same.

246
00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,120
Speaker 2: Second week of the finals would would be a fit

247
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,440
Speaker 2: amazing achievement. I supposedly get if they get through that

248
00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,520
Speaker 2: first week and they come up against the Roosters or

249
00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,960
Speaker 2: a Storm or Sharks, one of those sides, they'll go

250
00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000
Speaker 2: in with that underdog mentality as we've.

251
00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,680
Speaker 1: Been playing all year.

252
00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640
Speaker 2: But jeez, I just think depending on what side of

253
00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,040
Speaker 2: the droy you sit on, Boyd's, it'd be.

254
00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,160
Speaker 3: Too fair against the Dragons. They've got a big, powerful

255
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,200
Speaker 3: food pack and there was a lot of reasons for

256
00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,880
Speaker 3: the Dragons to play well against the Dogs, and they

257
00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 3: got the job done. Kurt Man vision. There was a

258
00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,440
Speaker 3: lot of space for kirk Man to do his thing.

259
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,800
Speaker 3: That's the way the Dogs need to play. They need

260
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,680
Speaker 3: space for the little men to use their footwork and

261
00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,480
Speaker 3: their passing game.

262
00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,319
Speaker 1: It was soon a bit of comebackside than the peneth.

263
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,440
Speaker 3: That like it was. It was scary. Good for the

264
00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,240
Speaker 3: to be just.

265
00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,560
Speaker 1: Ticking down and you run out of time.

266
00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040
Speaker 2: You got fourteen points to pick up, and you just

267
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,720
Speaker 2: don't panic whatsoever and just get it done.

268
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,600
Speaker 3: When Liam Martin went to the sin bin, they actually

269
00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,320
Speaker 3: went up a gear like go back and watch the play.

270
00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,640
Speaker 3: The bull speed, the intensity at which they ran, their

271
00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,280
Speaker 3: ability just to get into this. Here was the player

272
00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,199
Speaker 3: that sealed it. Poor defense from powermatter in that period

273
00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,800
Speaker 3: of time. In the last ten minutes, I ao Nathan Cleary, Yeah,

274
00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,280
Speaker 3: very very good. I loved it. When they were under

275
00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,560
Speaker 3: pressure they actually went a bit harder.

276
00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,199
Speaker 2: And the setup or the big comeback, the setup for

277
00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,280
Speaker 2: that is the first thirty minutes of football we have seen.

278
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720
Speaker 2: They have got so much trust in the way they play.

279
00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,960
Speaker 2: As far as the inside balls starting, I've I've been

280
00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,320
Speaker 2: watching them a little bit and start to think are

281
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,800
Speaker 2: they starting a little too conservative? But the inside balls,

282
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,280
Speaker 2: inside balls, inside balls, and as no coincidence, with about

283
00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,000
Speaker 2: fifteen to go, you can see the opposition the middle

284
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,320
Speaker 2: start that hit the ball.

285
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,559
Speaker 3: Before the taruva try so that they score through Brian

286
00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,840
Speaker 3: Tore and they get the kickoff set and it's not

287
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,000
Speaker 3: Penrith's system it's shift right, shift left, shift right. They

288
00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,199
Speaker 3: went nineteen meters, got an attacking kicking from clear in

289
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,080
Speaker 3: taruver scores. Right then, I thought, oh, there are a

290
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400
Speaker 3: big chances chasing down this school board here.

291
00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,480
Speaker 2: I once spoke to interview the Great huban Omen about

292
00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,000
Speaker 2: riding Winks, and he said, no matter how far it

293
00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,000
Speaker 2: got behind, he said, I barely had to pull a whip.

294
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,719
Speaker 2: He said, I would just let Winks tell me what

295
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,480
Speaker 2: it was right to go nice, impatience. Here's an example

296
00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,920
Speaker 2: here right, Look this Wink stakes and that's on the outside,

297
00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,280
Speaker 2: the first on the outside in the in the blue

298
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:08,720
Speaker 2: and white.

299
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,440
Speaker 1: Right there.

300
00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,400
Speaker 2: You think yourself, Nu can't pick him up? Remember this race,

301
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,480
Speaker 2: and you go no, no, no, no, no no. But

302
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,400
Speaker 2: from Hugh there's no panic whatsoever. Gives a little bit

303
00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,840
Speaker 2: of a tickle, but mainly hands and heels and ends

304
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 2: up winning in a canter.

305
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,640
Speaker 1: Huey Bowman's Nathan Cleary.

306
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,760
Speaker 3: I was wondering that you put an allergy between Winks

307
00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,280
Speaker 3: and Clearer. Is just showing me how much money you

308
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,360
Speaker 3: had on Winks that day.

309
00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,200
Speaker 1: I didn't that day.

310
00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,880
Speaker 2: I thought it's due to loss, it's dual loss. I

311
00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,800
Speaker 2: did back, but you know what I mean, you're sitting

312
00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,320
Speaker 2: there every time Winks ran, everyone to be standing in

313
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,760
Speaker 2: the pub, all the club and just.

314
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,040
Speaker 1: Going no, no, no, not today, not today. And then Runners.

315
00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,040
Speaker 3: The other impressive thing about whether it's Winks is on

316
00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,240
Speaker 3: the Unbeate run or Beenth, you just feel like there's

317
00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,120
Speaker 3: going to be a flat spot, but there just isn't.

318
00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,320
Speaker 1: No.

319
00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,560
Speaker 3: Nathan's out for how many weeks? Is Leuais steps and

320
00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,960
Speaker 3: gets your job done? Dylan Edwards was terrific. Nathan comes

321
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,800
Speaker 3: back down by what is it fourteen with tend to go,

322
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,240
Speaker 3: they get the job done. Grand Final, like there's it's

323
00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,160
Speaker 3: just it's scary good.

324
00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,240
Speaker 1: It's still there to lose.

325
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are pole position absolutely, I don't know, it

326
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what else Skeets said. They are absolutely the

327
00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,000
Speaker 3: favorites right now.

328
00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,400
Speaker 1: And they've had this certain amount of luck.

329
00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Nathan, he's playing fresh,

330
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,640
Speaker 2: he's like different times through this amazing dynasty they've had.

331
00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 2: They have lost key players at different manument, but it's worked.

332
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,840
Speaker 3: For it and they're winning different ways too. It's not

333
00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,200
Speaker 3: as if they've won one way the whole time. They've

334
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker 3: had challenges behind injuries whatever it is.

335
00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,760
Speaker 2: Terrific club, terrific Sharks interesting. On the weekend, we spoke

336
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,280
Speaker 2: to this for another example of becurse of key men,

337
00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,840
Speaker 2: missing key creative men being basically being forced to simply

338
00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,480
Speaker 2: simplify your football.

339
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,200
Speaker 1: Don't worry about all the flowery stuff.

340
00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,280
Speaker 2: Just get back to really simple, direct power football and

341
00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,960
Speaker 2: how you suddenly find your best stuff. Like on the weekend,

342
00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,640
Speaker 2: Blake Brailey's playing half back and they just simplified. They

343
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,360
Speaker 2: did less, they passed the ball sideways less, They just

344
00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,240
Speaker 2: were very simple power game and that's that's how they

345
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:22,800
Speaker 2: should play.

346
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,680
Speaker 3: It was a perfect storm for the Sharks for on

347
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,800
Speaker 3: the weekend because injuries simplifying football, make a really basic approach.

348
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,800
Speaker 3: And on the other side of the field, well, they

349
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,960
Speaker 3: got a little bit too carry away with themselves, the Titans,

350
00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,680
Speaker 3: and just came out lacking intensity, lacking commitment, and it

351
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,440
Speaker 3: just really set them on the course. To you, it

352
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if Heinz comes back in or not, like

353
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640
Speaker 3: that's how they should play. Then give him the ability

354
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,920
Speaker 3: to row him around the field and come up with.

355
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,320
Speaker 2: What do you think firstly about the Sharks right predicted

356
00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,000
Speaker 2: to finish, what do you think they'll.

357
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,680
Speaker 3: Finish top four. But the thing that happens with the

358
00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,240
Speaker 3: Sharks is they haven't won a finals game on a fitzgiven.

359
00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,919
Speaker 3: I don't think they've gone out straight sets and then

360
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,760
Speaker 3: out can So there's going to be some nervous tension

361
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,679
Speaker 3: when the Sharks play their first finally and they're going

362
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,040
Speaker 3: to finish fourth. I means here going to play Melbourne

363
00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,199
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, which they've done all penner. Depending on what

364
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,000
Speaker 3: happens this weekend, so I think they'll lose Week one,

365
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,040
Speaker 3: but then it's up to them the win Week two.

366
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let us lose again and then if they've.

367
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 3: Got someone like the Dogs, depending on how the ladder

368
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,520
Speaker 3: falls in place, that's a big challenge, is not wrong.

369
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,520
Speaker 2: You don't want to be going out three years in

370
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,920
Speaker 2: a row like that. That leaves a pretty nasty scar paramatter.

371
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 2: This is interesting Jason Rosey, You've had a lot of Rosy.

372
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 2: He has got the biggest job in my opinion, this

373
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,480
Speaker 2: coming up this offseason. He's trying to move players on

374
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,400
Speaker 2: at the moment. The last one is ringing Hemil Gillard.

375
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 2: He's told like a sub and go Ryan Madison's the same,

376
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 2: but they get no takers at the moment. Meanwhile, probably

377
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,720
Speaker 2: the bigger issue is the rumors that are going, well,

378
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,439
Speaker 2: they've lost Blaze. Rumors are starting to go around always

379
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 2: do about Dylan Brown and the ridiculous contract and.

380
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: Clauses he's signed.

381
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 2: Well, the latest one has been around Mitchell Moses, which

382
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,919
Speaker 2: was originally that they would probably look to exercise his

383
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 2: clause at the end of twenty twenty six.

384
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,920
Speaker 1: He going, Oh my god, the end of twenty twenty six,

385
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean.

386
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 2: Long, A lot of stuff's going to happen between now

387
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 2: and then, But then rumors abound, whether it be true

388
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 2: or not. I'm not sure that he may aggravate for

389
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,159
Speaker 2: an early release.

390
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what to make of all the noise,

391
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 3: what it's true, what's not, what is reality? But if

392
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Ryles, he may have done this already. He

393
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 3: may not have. But I'm getting Moses, Brown, Guthson, Will Peraccini,

394
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 3: and maybe one or two others, and I'm getting them

395
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 3: over to my house for dinner, and I'm saying, listen,

396
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 3: this is what I can do, this is the dream,

397
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 3: this is what I can sell. We're going to work

398
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 3: our backsides off, and what you think is paramounta Now

399
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 3: will not be in six months time because all this

400
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 3: noise is not good. He really needs to get some

401
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 3: cut through the noise. Jason Rolls and I bore those

402
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,719
Speaker 3: key guys and get them to buy in.

403
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 1: No matter how much.

404
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 2: If I was Jason Rolls, Mitchell may agitate it for

405
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 2: a release.

406
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 1: Never how much. You cannot release him.

407
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 2: Because a halfback of Nathan Cleary, Mitchell moses soone that

408
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 2: their quality you just can't replace them.

409
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 3: A little bit. Example is Shane Flanagan with Ben Hunt.

410
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 3: He was gone this time last year, and all it

411
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 3: takes is a conversation, build a rapport and get someone

412
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 3: to buy into what you're doing. I mean, you can

413
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 3: turn that around. So I think that comes down to

414
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 3: Jason Roles. There's it's a bucket load of noise and

415
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what is true or not. But if

416
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Rolls, I'm getting those guys and I'm selling

417
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 3: this is what I need is in here, this is

418
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 3: what we're doing.

419
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: I just spoke about Blaze to Lungey off to Penris,

420
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: which is big move for Blaze. Who he's going to play.

421
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: There was talk they said they're going to they see

422
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: him as a six Now, Initially when I heard that,

423
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: I thought it doesn't appear like a six.

424
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: But if you've got if you got.

425
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary and Isa, you don't really need a bloke

426
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 2: in the six finessa the football around.

427
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 3: I think it's the right position for him At Penrith.

428
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 3: He's had some fullback stuff for his score and tries.

429
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 3: He's been on the wing center. On the weekend he

430
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 3: got carved up by the Panthers defensively, like some of

431
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: the decisions he made was part of the reason why

432
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 3: Parentuth came back. But this kid can play. And again

433
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: it's like disrespecting Paramatta, but he's going to a club

434
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: that is going to invest in his development, like he

435
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: is going to sit in the shotgun seat to Nathan

436
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: Cleary and learn, Like it's pretty good. And he's Mitch

437
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: Moses currently at the club and something's happened there that

438
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: says that he wants to go. He's not going to

439
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 3: play and halves of paramatter, So maybe that's where he

440
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: wants to play. And I like it at Penrith. I

441
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: like that position.

442
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: Like we said before, it's their comp to lose. Again,

443
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: Nathan's still a very young player. How is it twenty six,

444
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: twenty six seven, We'll played for at least another ten years.

445
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: How many comps are going to win? I'm looking at

446
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: four in a row now, continue on this trajectory, it's

447
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: just kind of get scary.

448
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: Playmakers just get better.

449
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the one thing that stops panis? Give me

450
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: something that stops Penrith. We're literally luck here.

451
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: Well as far as this season.

452
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this season, just this season right here.

453
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: I think I think the biggest one is probably injury.

454
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: I think an injury to Nathan because it just appears

455
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: as though they can absorb the loss of just about

456
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: everyone else. It's incredible still at Edward's like, I don't

457
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: know there's any coincident. On the weekend, they didn't look

458
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: anywhere as near as effective without Dylane was there.

459
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: He's one, Nathan's the other. Is there anyone else? Now?

460
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: I think they can absorb the loss.

461
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think when it gets down to prelim final,

462
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: Grand Final, it is the best players dominating the other

463
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: best players. So it is, for example, Thursday night, it's

464
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 3: two teams Penrith and Melbourne. Great game styles. We know

465
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: history says that it's good enough to win, but Ken

466
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: Jerome hughes out point Nathan on the day, so he's

467
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: going to take star power in the opposition.

468
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: To be So that's the thing about it, Coops, you

469
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: know what's going to stop them and I go loss

470
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: of form. They don't drop form because they all know

471
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: what they have to do inside out and.

472
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: Not a team that will lack accountability. Like we spoke

473
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: about before about I don't feel like playing today, even

474
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 3: if you don't feel like, there's a responsibility to pull

475
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: on the Penrith jersey. So you almost have to expect

476
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: the best case scenario for Penrith when you play them,

477
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: and then how do you beat the best case Well,

478
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: fight fire with fire, good defense, good completion rate. They

479
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: give them opportunities, but when you get your chance, you

480
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: better take it.

481
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: As we start to shift to talk about the Broncos

482
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: because we haven't done the show for a little while

483
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: now and it's worth discussing.

484
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: You've been on holidays for a month.

485
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Let me see it once again, mate, It was eight

486
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, sometimes finished at two o'clock, covering

487
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: all sports fencing. Okay, we're about to talk about the Broncos.

488
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: But when you talk about okay, the reason. What is

489
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: the primary reason why it's been such a blood a

490
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: season for the Broncos. Well, we say oftentimes is success

491
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: tests your metal.

492
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: That's what it does.

493
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: So to take a step backwards we're just spoke speaking

494
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: about then, don't you tip your lead to the Melbourne

495
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Storm the Penrith Panthers, regardless of the success individually and collectively,

496
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: they just the fire and the belly doesn't go out.

497
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: Always find a reason why. And the Broncos haven't really

498
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: on their reason why. You could say our origin, you

499
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: could say loss of Renolds, you could, but you could

500
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: say that for Melbourne, Melbourne lost, Mounster parents lost. Clear,

501
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. But the work ethic from everyone

502
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: else covers the loss of that.

503
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: Is a big football mad city like Brisbane and oftentimes

504
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: the one team.

505
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: So they've struggled in the last six weeks, the Bronx

506
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 3: big Tom but their second half performance. There was a

507
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: moment in that game where in a seventy fifth minute

508
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: or something, Cartoni Stags turns the ball over by making

509
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: a good tackle. Defensively, Ris Walsh runs almost as of score.

510
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: Cartoni Stags is the right center. He made the tackle

511
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: force the eerror he ends up scoring as left center.

512
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: That effort from Cartoni Stags to do that here and

513
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: then down there, it just has not been enough of

514
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: that that. That's I saw it. I noticed it, and

515
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: I thought, that's why the Broncos aren't doing what they're doing.

516
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: There is not seventeen players doing that. Whereas you could

517
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: have done that and any game of the Broncos last

518
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: year and would have seen an effort like that.

519
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, across the board, that's sort of effort you're Broncos fan,

520
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: if your Kevy waalders. More to the point, you're looking

521
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: game fell us, where was where was that six weeks

522
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: ago when we needed to do something? This weekend coups,

523
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: there are some huge games in terms of top two,

524
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: top four, top eight Penrith versus the Storm.

525
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Are you liking this one?

526
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: It's a pen well obviously Panthers. But I'm going to

527
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 3: go down the path of what I just said that

528
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: I think this is the type of game Monster arrives

529
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: or he doesn't arrive.

530
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: He's already yeah, but has his impact on this yeah.

531
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: I think so. Like he's been injured out for a bit,

532
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Nathan's the superstar opposite him, there's just something that Monster.

533
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: I might play a hell of a.

534
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: Game scratchy the Melbourne Storm the last few weeks, but

535
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: the bottom line that the Spine has barely.

536
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Played all together. You can see why they little clunky.

537
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: They're not a spine that requires ten weeks to get

538
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: to know each other. Months is the type of guy

539
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: that would just come in and do it. Jerome Hughes

540
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: at a sensational year. So if I was to say

541
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: that something might have I think Monster might deliver.

542
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: Now the Dogs, they're pushing towards top four, finished the

543
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: up against the Dolphins, who are pushing trying to consolidate

544
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: that top eight spot.

545
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: This is a.

546
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Really dangerous game for the Dogs because you know that

547
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: Wayne the Dolphins have got to win this one, and

548
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: he'll have them sky high.

549
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: Because the Dolphins have got a tough run after this. Yeah,

550
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: so's it was must win against the Warriors and they

551
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: got out of jail then too. Yeah, hard to tough

552
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: to call. This will be super close. I'll say the

553
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: Dogs just because they're playing better.

554
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're going to watch in Bunderberg. Yeah, Cowboys

555
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and the Raiders.

556
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: Now on both of these sides, Like Cowboys, what a

557
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: missed opportunity in the weekend dominated the first half of

558
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: only led eighten points to twelve. Second half was considered

559
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: thirty points thirty nil. It's been a little bit like

560
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: the tailor or the tape for the last eighty months

561
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys Raiders. Both of these sides have got

562
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: to win it.

563
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: Like the cows you just can't trust like they have

564
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: whenever you see them play in terms of names on

565
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: a sheet of paper and the way they can do

566
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: it individual at different stages. All they talk about is

567
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: defensive minds. I say all the right things, but to

568
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: be up eighteen twelve at home against your rival and

569
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: to have a second half like that, yeah, like you

570
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: just can't get confidence from them. And then the Raiders

571
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: on the other hand, well, yeah, again they scrap and fight,

572
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: but they haven't been scrapping and fighting.

573
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: And Dragons are going to win this one. Dragons up

574
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: against the Titans. Titans are going to be well. I

575
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: was going to say they'll be better than last week. Honestly,

576
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: you turn the ross completely over.

577
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: And even the Dragons off the great performance against the

578
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Storm two weeks ago and then at home sold out

579
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: like there was a lot of reasons for the Dragons

580
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: to really cement themselves. Now they're outside the eight because

581
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: they lost and the Dolphins won. Yeah again, this is

582
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: a bit like the Cowboys and the Raiders.

583
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: And then finally you've got the Knights and the Sharks,

584
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: which is really important. So the Knights can't lose. They're

585
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: on the razors edge as far as making the top eight,

586
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: the Sharks trying to hold onto that top four spot.

587
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: But more than that, the Sharks, wh've got to start

588
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: to prove they can put two really great performances together

589
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: back to back.

590
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: And the thing with the Sharks, yes, back to back

591
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: Titans Knights. The issue with the Sharks is they want

592
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: to win a finals match. They've got it with respect

593
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: an easier run at the back end of this year,

594
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: so they need to win these games like it's a

595
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: tight contest, not like just playing for twenty minutes then

596
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: putting the Q in the rack. Because if you do

597
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: that week one against Penrith.

598
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Or Melbourne, that's just what we're going to give it

599
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: to you. Radio coops, Good staff man, little jet lagged.

600
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: From watching all that gold, gold, gold, as Norman May

601
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: used to say, probably a little bit before your time.

602
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Are you standing up now?

603
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: What did you know what I'm