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Speaker 1: Hello, super Coaches, and welcome to Grand Final week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is our final Super Coach Errol podcast of

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Speaker 2: the year. The Super Coach n' Roll Finals winner will

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Speaker 2: be crowned this week. There's league championships going on the line.

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Speaker 2: We've got a massive panel as well, with Jet Hatton

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Speaker 2: and Wilson Smith here. Jet Sharky's what happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no good? That was our class by Melbourne. Probably

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Speaker 3: a few too many penalties blamed for a preliminary final,

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Speaker 3: but it is what it is. You know, the boys

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Speaker 3: gave They're all had a good season.

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Speaker 2: When you saw Ashley Klein get asked as the referee

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Speaker 2: for the Grand Final, where was there any emotional reaction?

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Speaker 3: No, I knew it was going to happen. It should

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Speaker 3: have happened a long time ago, to be honest. But

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Speaker 3: he's in the bunker, so we'll still get to hear actually,

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Speaker 3: which I'm sure he's going to enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: Well, so your team's going, okay, Yeah, I had a

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Speaker 4: rough Week one, but I've had really good weeks the

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Speaker 4: last two weeks, and so I think I think I

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Speaker 4: was about seventeen thousand after week one, but I'm into

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Speaker 4: two thousand two hundred now, so going all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I reckon I'm on almost exactly the same score

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Speaker 2: as you, so we'll be racing neck and neck during

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Speaker 2: this last week, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Where are your.

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Speaker 3: Ranks yet, rather not talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It's just been concentrating on the Sharkys.

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Speaker 3: Just been concentrated. It's been a busy time for racing

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Speaker 3: as well. It's it's Grand Final weekend for Sydney racing

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Speaker 3: fans well on Saturday, so we're that look forward to.

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Speaker 2: True well, obviously we all know the good players, but

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Speaker 2: it's the pods that separate everyone in Super Coach finals.

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Speaker 2: They're so important, not only in Classic but especially in

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Speaker 2: Super Coach finals.

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Speaker 1: Who's your big pod?

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Speaker 3: I got in earlier with you guys. I like Paddy Karraghan.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's going to be hard to go in there

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Speaker 3: because you've got so many popular players that position. You

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Speaker 3: got paid ass at front row than Ellie Katawara and

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Speaker 3: back row. But anything could happen in these games, and

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Speaker 3: Grand Finals are for big game players. Exactly what Paddy

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Speaker 3: car I think you averaged about sixty five on the season.

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Speaker 3: I think most of those better scorers would be when

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Speaker 3: the Broncos had harder games. So I like Patty Karen there.

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Speaker 2: I really like him as well. And the main reason

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Speaker 2: is you have to have four players from each club.

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Speaker 2: We've got eight players all up, four from each club.

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Speaker 2: I want four players from the Storm in big playing positions,

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Speaker 2: mostly in the back line, and a hooker of course

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Speaker 2: with Harry Grant. So you need to fit in Bronco's

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Speaker 2: players somewhere, and I think back row is the place

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Speaker 2: to do it. Because you've got Carrigan averaging sixty five

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Speaker 2: for the year. The next best guy sorry, the only

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Speaker 2: guy above him in that slot is Katoa who you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: who averages seventy five. So what, You've got a ten

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Speaker 2: point gap over the season. It's not that big. You

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Speaker 2: know what you're going to get from those guys. Whereas

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Speaker 2: I want to attack the other positions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I really like Karragan as well.

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Speaker 4: I'll be locking him in purely just just yeah, a

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Speaker 4: bit of a point of difference from Elie Kata yep.

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Speaker 1: Who's your pod?

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Speaker 4: Well, so I think most people will be it's going

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Speaker 4: to be pretty predictable. I think the way most people

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Speaker 4: set their teams, I think sena wing is the spot

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Speaker 4: where you I'll be targeting other pods I think, and

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Speaker 4: I think most people will be going with Katony Staggs.

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Speaker 4: I might zag and go with Xavier Coats. There's just

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Speaker 4: a massive upside play.

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Speaker 2: I like Coats because against the Sharkies they usually use

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Speaker 2: that kick to him. I don't think they used it

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Speaker 2: even once against the Sharky, so I'm expecting that a

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Speaker 2: lot this weekend. It doesn't have the base, but he

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Speaker 2: can obviously score.

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Speaker 4: It's a risky pick, but it's pure upside for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm going in a similar vein.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go with Nick Mean as

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Speaker 2: my pod, just because he's kicking goals, obviously can score

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Speaker 2: some trials in the end of a pretty good back

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Speaker 2: line too, and not many people will go him onto.

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Speaker 2: So quick rules, low down. You've got four players from

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Speaker 2: each club. That's a big thing for this week, Captain

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Speaker 2: Earns triple and VC Earns double. Let's start with hooker.

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Speaker 2: I can't see a reason not to go Harry Grant.

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Speaker 2: I can reveal it today. Ben Hunt has had his

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Speaker 2: position updated, so he is five eight and hooker, but

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Speaker 2: I still don't think he's an option. Averaging under fifty

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Speaker 2: for the year, I think Harry Grant, you just have

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Speaker 2: to lock in in this slot.

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Speaker 5: Yep. I agree.

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Speaker 3: He's been the second best hooker all year in Super

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Speaker 3: Coach and with him is the only real looking option

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Speaker 3: this week. I can't go past him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean you only other options as Hunt, Corey Pegs

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Speaker 4: or Ben Tolty. Neither of them none of them are

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Speaker 4: very entire thing. So I think you really do just

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Speaker 4: have to lock in Harry Grant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It could even be a VC or C because he

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Speaker 2: does have a great record in these big games.

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Speaker 5: Not Tolty.

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Speaker 4: I meant Tyson smooth Yes, toldy, Yeah, Toldy.

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Speaker 2: He's on our mind because a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: the office absolutely love him because it dropped out of

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Speaker 2: the side, this Smoothie taking that flowing spot on the bench.

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Speaker 5: Yep. I do think, yes, you do just have to

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Speaker 5: lock in Harry Grant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah at front row?

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Speaker 2: Do you just do we just lock in painhass second

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Speaker 2: best player in Super Coach this year.

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Speaker 1: He's much better than the next best guy. We don't

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Speaker 1: overthink this, do we. No.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the same sort of thing, like he's

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Speaker 4: just hands down the best. The only other option is

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Speaker 4: to finot with a Komando, who's a significant drop off.

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Speaker 5: So again, I think you just have to lock in

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Speaker 5: pagn hss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean Stefano has been in good form during the finals,

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Speaker 2: but his season average is like forty points less or something.

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Speaker 2: The next best guy is Carrigan, who I want in

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Speaker 2: the back rup, which is what we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about now, Ellie Cato or Carrigan.

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Speaker 1: You're going Carrigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm Krygan.

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Speaker 3: I was weighing up going both of them and having

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Speaker 3: wine in the flex. No, No, I think I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go to talk about this late two centers instead.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, for me, I like Carrigan there.

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Speaker 4: I did temporarily toy with that having them both as well,

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Speaker 4: but I think I've settled on Carragan in the two

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Speaker 5: Full back in the flex.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flex is for attacking up so that I can't

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Speaker 1: Jerome Hughes liking him.

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Speaker 2: What I like the most about him was that that

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Speaker 2: try on the weekend, which Jet I'm sure doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to replay in his head, but he's fended off with

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Speaker 2: that dodgy arm and pulled on a great fan.

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Speaker 1: It was too Charlott.

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Speaker 2: Didn't look to be a problem, so you know, he's

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Speaker 2: might not be one hundred percent fit, but he's looking

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Speaker 3: It was an average defense there, no doubt. But it

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Speaker 3: was an awesome run. And when you saw that he

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Speaker 3: he's back here and he looks awesome. That that's the

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Speaker 3: drone news that we've known over the years. So he's

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Speaker 3: going to play with that again, no doubt to be

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Speaker 3: needled up to the broom with painkillers so that arm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not locked in on him. It depends because

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Speaker 4: you can only for it from either team. This is

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Speaker 4: one position where I may consider going with the Reno

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Speaker 4: just for a bit of upside. I have drum Hues

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Speaker 4: I want to go with my center wing, basically because

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Speaker 4: I may have too many Storm players. I do think

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Speaker 4: Jerome Hughes is better, but it depends on what you

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Speaker 4: I do think that is a decent argument about getting Reno.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate the Reynolds cool at all. He

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Speaker 2: should be kicking goals. Obviously I only kicked that one

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Speaker 2: goal on the weekend, but he should be kicking them

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Speaker 2: all now. His average for the season is almost exactly

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Speaker 2: the same as Hughes, so over the year he's been good. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: recently has barely been playing. And over the weekend I

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Speaker 2: actually wrote I was live blogging it at the time,

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Speaker 2: and I wrote a big story after this game, this

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Speaker 2: is about sixty minutes. A big story about this game

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Speaker 2: is going to be whether Adam Reynolds should have played

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Speaker 2: or not. Yeah, and then obviously it didn't age well

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Speaker 2: and he was produced the match winning play, but he

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Speaker 2: only got thirty odd super Coach points.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't really translate to points.

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Speaker 4: But I just, yeah, I'd still think there is a

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Speaker 4: decent argument to go with him this week.

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Speaker 5: I just have a feeling he could be in for

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Speaker 5: a big.

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Speaker 1: Game and he loved for Renolds.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to have Tony Dave, you can

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Speaker 3: sort of pair them both together on that right hand side.

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Speaker 3: They look really good in the right hand side over

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Speaker 3: the last few weeks in the finals. And yeah, if

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Speaker 3: you want to pay those two together. I can definitely

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Speaker 2: Five eight is wide open, so Munster is obviously the

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Speaker 2: number one guy, but if you want to pot up,

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Speaker 2: you got Ezra Maam and Ben Hunt as well. If

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Speaker 2: there was a late change on Sunday and Ezra Maam

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Speaker 2: came in to start at five eight, would you be

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Speaker 2: tempted to go him as a pot instead of Munster?

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Speaker 4: Definitely? I think I was looking at it before. I

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Speaker 4: think he only played forty nine minutes last week, so

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Speaker 4: I would have to I would have to see him

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Speaker 4: an hour before kickoff being brought into the starting side

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Speaker 4: to even consider it. So at the moment I've just

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Speaker 4: got Monster locked in. But if in the late mail

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Speaker 4: he does start, I would definitely be tempted to go

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Speaker 4: with Ezra. He has gone big in Grand finals before,

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Speaker 4: so definitely tempted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be shocked if he didn't start, just how

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Speaker 3: good he was in that point, like he was a

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Speaker 3: naighth and clear performance way and getting the club Churchill,

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Speaker 3: what do you have a hat trick that day? You

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Speaker 3: got to have qued about four hundred Super Coach points.

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to go past Monster just because he's

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Speaker 3: a big game obviously, I said As is a big

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Speaker 3: game player too, but just months through in these finals,

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Speaker 3: he'd probably have the highest average or is it Reese.

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Speaker 2: Welsh you mean in Super Coach finals. Super Coach fins

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Speaker 2: at eighty five, I think, while she's slightly more, but

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Speaker 2: it was a five eights this year. He's second behind

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Speaker 2: Jayden Campbell. He didn't even play five eight this year.

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Speaker 2: Is essentially always the best five aiden, certainly the best

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Speaker 2: five eight in this game.

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Speaker 3: I'm certain you have the best average against top eight

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Speaker 2: Center wing is always the position where we go with

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Speaker 3: They just seem to target him so much in these

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Speaker 3: Warbrick the way he looks since he's come back, just

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Speaker 3: Xavier caz just because Codes can go very low. He

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Speaker 3: So I like the upside of Warbrick just because you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there is even a chance that even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a lot of players on this list.

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Speaker 2: I can't split them, to be honest. I like your

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Speaker 2: And I mean he's almost as good under the high

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Speaker 1: Karaparanne could be an option.

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Speaker 2: Shibasaki running off Reee Walsh has been really good too,

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Speaker 2: So look, I can barely split them, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Reesey Walsh.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to go with him? He's averaging one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean's he was the first player I picked, really,

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Speaker 3: No, though he's been the best player of the competition

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't really matter. Just the way he plays,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you knew to super Coach as well, errors

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Speaker 2: only count from minus two points. And yes, while she

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Speaker 1: Certainly, average.

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Speaker 2: Said he's an average is seventy four, but in his

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Speaker 2: So recent form is bad. Obviously, he's had injury issues

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Speaker 2: have been in the finals. So look, I could talk

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Speaker 2: myself out of Ryan Pappenhausen and instead go with two

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Speaker 2: cental wingers. Having said that Pappenhausen does have huge upside, Yeah, no, I.

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Speaker 4: Could definitely be talked out of it. It's out of

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Speaker 4: all the players have picked so far, it's the position

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Speaker 4: that I'm least settled on. So I could very easily

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Speaker 4: pivot because that is quite concerning his recent form, because

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I could very easily pivot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could say prison just going at him erely too,

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Speaker 3: and then he's just gonna obviously is going to shy

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Speaker 3: target someone that can in these low scoring games is

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, there we have our take on Super Coach Finals

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Speaker 2: Week four, the final week of the season. It's been

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Speaker 2: a massive year of Supercoach podcasts, a huge thanks to Jet,

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Speaker 2: huge thanks to Wilso, Rob Suthland who's no longer with us,

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Speaker 2: and everyone who's been on this pod.

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Speaker 1: It's been a good ride. We'll catch next year.