WEBVTT - Sharri | 26 May

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Sharry Good Evening. Welcome tonight to Zoey Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>accused of hypocrisy for demanding a recount in Goldstein.

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<v Speaker 3>Her own words come back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Bite her because she criticized Trump's refusal to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>presidential election. In twenty twenty, Sarah Milgrim was gunned down

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington. Her friend will join me live tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>For an exclusive interview.

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<v Speaker 2>This as Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi ignores their murder and

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<v Speaker 2>the crimes of humus to yet again lay blame on Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>My analysis in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ray Hadley will be back at the desk. His

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the ABC wrongly accusing Coalition MPs of abandoning

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<v Speaker 2>their constituents as they died in the floods. Plus why

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<v Speaker 2>politicians are spared immediate payment of the superttacks while financial

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<v Speaker 2>advisors warn that people could be forced to sell their

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<v Speaker 2>assets to fund the tax liability. I talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>absolute outrage with Steve Price shortly, but first tonight. Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Anthony Albinezi today blasted Israel as it pushes into

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza to try bring home more than fifty hostages and

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate genocidal terrorists. Albin Easy's statement today ignored her Mussa's crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>no demand to disarm, no condemnation of aid theft. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just a one sided rebuke of Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia finds these actions is completely unacceptable and we find

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<v Speaker 4>Israel's excuses and explanations completely untenable and without credibility. People

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<v Speaker 4>are starving and the idea that a democratic state with

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<v Speaker 4>hold's supply is an outrage. Now that is my clear position.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one I've indicated clearly and directly to the Israeli government.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one that will continue to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Albin Eazi should listen to Palestinians themselves, not the pro

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian Greenies here in Australia, but actual Palestinians living in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>They've spent much of the past week bravely risking their

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<v Speaker 2>lives to protest Hermus. The mainstream media has almost entirely

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<v Speaker 2>downplayed or blacked out this story of Palestinians turning against Hermus,

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<v Speaker 2>even at the risk of torture or death. But to

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at these protests in Gaza again, not

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<v Speaker 2>against Israel, but against Hamas. These Palestinian families are extremely

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<v Speaker 2>courageous to do this, because the first wave of that

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<v Speaker 2>protest movement against Hamas in March ended in tragedy. Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>tracked down the twenty two year old leader of the

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<v Speaker 2>protests and tortured him, tying him by his neck with

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<v Speaker 2>a rope and then dragging and beating him.

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<v Speaker 5>Robi's family says he was killed by Hamas militants torture

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<v Speaker 5>to death for publicly criticizing Hamas. Robbi's brother Hassan told

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<v Speaker 5>CNN his brother was abducted from the streets of Gaza

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<v Speaker 5>City by a group of Hamas militants.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the latest protest movement was in part sparked by

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<v Speaker 2>a senior Hamas official who made comments saying that the

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<v Speaker 2>war with Israel was eternal.

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<v Speaker 6>Admin will your loahdaf.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Those original comments were made a few months ago, but

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<v Speaker 2>they recirculated amongst Gazans. Now with Albani's he cared about

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<v Speaker 2>the Palestinian movement, he would listen to what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>and fight for the removal of the terror regime. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>he describes Israel as outrageous.

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<v Speaker 4>It is outrageous that there'd be a blockade of food

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<v Speaker 4>and supplies to people who are in need in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's outrageous, Prime Minister, It's the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>there are still fifty hostages in Gaza. Imagine if fifty Australians, sons, daughters,

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<v Speaker 2>parents were rotting in tunnels under the constant threat of

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<v Speaker 2>execution and had been there for nearly six hundred days,

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<v Speaker 2>deprived of basic human rights. Would the Prime Minister then

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<v Speaker 2>call a rescue mission outrageous or would he launch immediate

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<v Speaker 2>action similar to what Israel is in desperation taking now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also well known and widely reported that Hermas has

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<v Speaker 2>been looting aid and food that Israel delivers to Gaza,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is now indisputable. Hermas is hijacking humanitarian aid,

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<v Speaker 2>hoarding it, and extorting their own people by selling food

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<v Speaker 2>at inflated prices on the black market. But Albinezi conveniently

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<v Speaker 2>ignores this fact as he presents his biased, one sided view.

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<v Speaker 2>He should acknowledge that her Mass is responsible for depriving

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians of food, and when he claims AID isn't entering,

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<v Speaker 2>it's simply not true. This is the real picture of

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<v Speaker 2>how much aid Israel has actually delivered to Gaza in

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<v Speaker 2>the past.

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<v Speaker 6>Week food, a flower, baby formula, medicine and medical supplies.

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<v Speaker 6>Since the beginning of the war, the IDF has facilitated

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<v Speaker 6>the entry of over one point seven million tons of

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<v Speaker 6>humanitarian aid in Tagaza. Just this past week, from Monday

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<v Speaker 6>to Saturday, three hundred and eighty eight eight trucks delivered food,

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<v Speaker 6>baby formula, flower for bakeries, medicine and medical equipment.

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<v Speaker 7>Food.

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<v Speaker 6>Eight truck entries have been conducted in accordance with the

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<v Speaker 6>situation assessment and in order to prevent any shortages. In

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<v Speaker 6>recent days, hundreds of trucks have entered Gaza, including significant

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<v Speaker 6>quantities of baby food and flower for bakeries. The IDF,

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<v Speaker 6>along with international partners, will continue to facilitate aid into Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel is acting in accordance with a fourth Geneva Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>It is trying to defeat the terrorists and bring home

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<v Speaker 2>its hostages, as it is obligated to do. The Times

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel reports that Israeli officials have warned that as

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<v Speaker 2>long as Hamas refuses to agree to a hostage deal,

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<v Speaker 2>the IDF will ramp up its offensive against the terror group.

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<v Speaker 2>It says at Israel imposed the blockade in early March.

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<v Speaker 2>As hostage ceased, fire talks broke down, accusing Harmas of

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<v Speaker 2>stealing aid meant for civilians. As the aid has begun

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<v Speaker 2>to trickle in, the IDF has continued the intensified ground

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<v Speaker 2>and air operation launched last week, which Nettnyahu said would

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<v Speaker 2>end with Israel taking full control of the Gaza strip.

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<v Speaker 2>So the strategy is to put more and more pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on her Mus to push the terror group out and

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<v Speaker 2>then to find the remaining hostages while they're still alive.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Human rights lawyer Arsenostrowsky makes this point as well.

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<v Speaker 1>For Israel, every civilian death is a tragedy. For Hamas,

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<v Speaker 1>every civilian death is a strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the inescapable reality. If Hermas didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian civilians to be killed in the search for hostages,

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<v Speaker 2>they would simply hand back the hostages. They refuse to

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<v Speaker 2>do so. They want their civilians to be killed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>their strategy, as Arson says, they want Palestinian families.

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<v Speaker 3>To be killed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a terror group, and because when Palestinians are killed,

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<v Speaker 2>it galvanizes the world in their cause and against Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you'd have to say, in hindsight, it was probably

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake to hand control of Gaza to the Palestinians back.

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<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>In hindsight, it simply gave a terror group an effective state,

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<v Speaker 2>not an official state, but an effective state from which

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<v Speaker 2>to launch attacks on Israel. And now these attacks are

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<v Speaker 2>spreading around the world. The call for a global into

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<v Speaker 2>Fata that we've heard on university campuses is becoming a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll remember that even children are being brainwashed here in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia to support this.

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<v Speaker 8>Back to this PARISTI will be.

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<v Speaker 5>Pala sign movie three.

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<v Speaker 9>Free.

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<v Speaker 2>So then why does it come as a surprise that

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<v Speaker 2>just last week a young Israeli couple who had their

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<v Speaker 2>whole lives ahead of them, who would have been getting married,

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<v Speaker 2>were gonne down in Washington, DC. Sarah Milgram and you'ren Lashinsky.

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<v Speaker 2>The shooter said he did it for Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocking and devastating assassination by a pro Palestinian activist outside

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish Museum. But this right here is the true

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<v Speaker 2>picture of globalizing the Interfada, A chart that university leaders

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<v Speaker 2>and politicians never shut down allowing terrorism to thrive in

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<v Speaker 2>Western cities. This terror, this anger, is provoked by the

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<v Speaker 2>false narrative that Israel is committing a genocide and starving children.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a narrative manufactured by a terror group's lies, amplified

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<v Speaker 2>by global institutions, and legitimized by silence from political leaders

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<v Speaker 2>who must surely know better. The Wall Street Journal reports

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<v Speaker 2>and the claim from the United Nations Humanitarian Chief that

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen thousand guards and babies would starve to death in

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours, and the Wall Street Journal says that

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<v Speaker 2>all now concede that's bogus, But not before it went viral,

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<v Speaker 2>the UN withdrew their claim, yet the ABC article many

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<v Speaker 2>others are still online. It's this misinformation that Albanzi is feeding.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't appear that Albanesi has set a word about

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah or Urn being assassinated. He's silent when the attacks

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<v Speaker 2>are on Israel or Jews. And so this is another

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<v Speaker 2>case of our Prime minister escalating anti Israel sentiment in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only ramification of this is that it sparks

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism and risks attacks on Australian soil by parroting

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<v Speaker 2>Hmas's propaganda. The Prime Minister is not just fueling anti Semitism,

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<v Speaker 2>he is playing with fire. This is how attacks start.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington proved that Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be next. If Albanese wants to privately raise his

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<v Speaker 3>view with Ned and Yahu will fine, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>But airing a distorted, hostile narrative only endangers the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of Australians. And that is precisely what I believe Albanezi

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<v Speaker 2>is doing. And as I said, Sarah's friend would join

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<v Speaker 2>me on.

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<v Speaker 3>The show shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to turn now to tel Zoey Daniel's

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<v Speaker 2>refusal to concede the seat of Godstein to Tim Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Zoey Daniel has been demanding a full recount, which the

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<v Speaker 2>AEC has refused, but it's agreed to a partial recount

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<v Speaker 2>her first preference and informal ballot papers. So Zoe Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>has refused to accept that she's lost, despite the count

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<v Speaker 2>showing Tim Wilson is two hundred and sixty votes ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's well over the one hundred vote margin threshold

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<v Speaker 2>for a full recount. Now this is interesting because back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, when Trump lost the US election and

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<v Speaker 2>refused to concede, claimed he'd won and it was all

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<v Speaker 2>rigged well.

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<v Speaker 3>Zoey Daniel was very critical in.

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<v Speaker 2>Her book she wrote about Trump's refusal to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>verdict of voters.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, the writing was on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>But Donald Trump, not one to accept uncomfortable truths, refused

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<v Speaker 2>to concede. Perhaps, Sorry, Daniel should remember her own words

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<v Speaker 2>as she now demands this partial recount.

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<v Speaker 3>Which will begin on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, to discuss this, and while let's bring in Sky

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<v Speaker 2>News hosts Steve Price and Joe hude Brand.

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<v Speaker 10>Welcome, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Steve, this is part of the conduct that

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<v Speaker 2>people were frustrated with when Donald Trump refused to accept

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<v Speaker 2>the democratic verdict of the United States people, of the

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<v Speaker 2>American people. Zoey Daniel was critical at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like she's doing the same. Is there any

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate reason for demanding a recount to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I can see. I mean, she must be

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed about what she did on election night when

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<v Speaker 1>she jumped up and down on a stage at her

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<v Speaker 1>supporter's party saying that she'd won the seat. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>had to concede that no, it was too early to

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<v Speaker 1>claim victory. Tim Wilson is the resumptive new member for Golston.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won the seat back. I note Sharie that Tim's

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<v Speaker 1>put a long explanation to Night Up on x formerly Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talks about the pain that he felt when

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his seat himself and how hard it was

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<v Speaker 1>to accept that he was no longer going to represent

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<v Speaker 1>the community that he works so closely with, and he

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<v Speaker 1>spent the last three years back in that community determined

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<v Speaker 1>to get himself re elected. And here we are, three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks on, we're still sitting around arguing about who won

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<v Speaker 1>and who didn't, and what scrutineers saw what and who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't and the AEC said we're not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a full recount. I mean, she should just concede, realize

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<v Speaker 1>that she's lost, and let us all get on with

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<v Speaker 1>our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Steve makes a good point, Joe, at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>she is looking like a saw loser from style.

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<v Speaker 10>I would say more than looking like I would say, unquestionably,

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<v Speaker 10>she is the most I mean, we take it for

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<v Speaker 10>granted because we're so lucky to have such a stable

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<v Speaker 10>democracy in Australia, but the most important thing in any

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<v Speaker 10>democracy in any election, in any democratic contest, isn't actually

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<v Speaker 10>the person who wins. It's the person who loses. It's

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<v Speaker 10>the person who says, you know what I lost?

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<v Speaker 2>I you know?

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<v Speaker 10>And this is you know, you govern with consent of

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<v Speaker 10>the person who lost. And that is the most fundamental thing.

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<v Speaker 10>That the person, not the person who benefits from it,

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<v Speaker 10>accepts the election result, but the person who doesn't. And

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<v Speaker 10>this is yet another example of just the most bare faced,

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<v Speaker 10>shameless hypocrisy by the teals. They demand more integrity, more transparency,

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<v Speaker 10>and then when it comes to themselves actually acting with

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<v Speaker 10>any integrity, what do we have? We have Zoe Daniel

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<v Speaker 10>not just demanding a recount, but also, according to ABC reports,

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<v Speaker 10>saying that there were certain sort of irregularities or unusual

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<v Speaker 10>preference flows, unusual fluctuations, and large numbers of votes moving

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<v Speaker 10>to and fro in the final stages of What does

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<v Speaker 10>that sound like? That sounds exactly like Donald Trump saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 10>I looked at all these numbers and because they weren't

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<v Speaker 10>in my favor, they clearly just don't add up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>this is just absolutehorn leghorn stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>It is.

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<v Speaker 10>It is disgraceful, and it would be it would be

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<v Speaker 10>nauseating from your fair, average garden candidate. But the te

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<v Speaker 10>als who pride themselves and pontificate to whyther's about integrity,

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<v Speaker 10>It is absolutely stummach.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there's one thing Australians respect and that

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<v Speaker 2>is a gracious concession.

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<v Speaker 3>Speech and they think so much more of them.

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<v Speaker 10>Pike, Peter, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it like Dunnan did exactly on election night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the Finn Review reports today that politicians on the

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<v Speaker 2>divined Benefit pension and this includes the Prime Minister, will

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<v Speaker 2>be able to defer paying the supertax until after they retire.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the new supertax including on unrealized capital gains. This

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<v Speaker 2>is at a rate of thirty percent on earnings from

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<v Speaker 2>superbalances above three million. Now, the Finn Review reports that

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<v Speaker 2>it has triggered warnings from financial advisors that people could

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<v Speaker 2>be forced to sell assets such as property and shares

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<v Speaker 2>to fund their tax liability. Now, you know, just to

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<v Speaker 2>understand that because this is unrealized capital gains, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the money yet yet they have to pay tax

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<v Speaker 2>bill on it. Where they're going to get the money from,

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<v Speaker 2>So Steve, obviously some people will be worried about having

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<v Speaker 2>to sell oursets.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an absolute disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it particularly hits farmers who might have their farm properties,

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<v Speaker 1>businesses inside of self managed super funder, inside of trust.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a disgraceful move by Jim Chalmers.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone from Paul Kender, Bill Kelty's told him about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone with any financial nouse at all, of which Charmers

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<v Speaker 1>has none, has said, you can't change the tax system

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<v Speaker 1>where you start claiming people forcing people to pay tax

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<v Speaker 1>on things they haven't sold. So to simplify it, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got three point one million dollars in your superannuation

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<v Speaker 1>fund at the start of the year, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year you might be lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have three point two you're going to pay not

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen but thirty percent on that. But you haven't sold

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<v Speaker 1>any of it. So you've then got to work out

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<v Speaker 1>where am I going to get this money from. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't got you know, thirty thousand dollars sitting around in

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<v Speaker 1>a bank account somewhere that I can just write out

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<v Speaker 1>a check and there you go. I'm fixing up the

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<v Speaker 1>tax office. This is the latest attack on superannuation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Morrison started that he was the one who introduced

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen percent tax. Now they're going to rob people

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<v Speaker 1>who are over got over three million dollars. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>robin hood tax. Everybody with more than three millions rich

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<v Speaker 1>well have I guess what in ten years time, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who have super probably going to be

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<v Speaker 1>up at that level because sum has been in for

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<v Speaker 1>so long. It's a disgrace. Charmers should drop it. Alban

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<v Speaker 1>Ezy should understand how much anger it's causing out in

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<v Speaker 1>the community. And don't believe this crap that it's only

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<v Speaker 1>going to affect eighty thousand people. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye Joe, what do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think it could be a victim of unintended consequences.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't mind it in terms of in terms of

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<v Speaker 10>how it was intended, But I think the farmer's thing

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<v Speaker 10>is a genuine concern because that would come under it.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that the fact that the politicians have

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<v Speaker 10>and they didn't think I mean that public is no

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<v Speaker 10>it will be included. They're clearly wrong about that. So

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<v Speaker 10>I think that is a loophole that will need to

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<v Speaker 10>be that. Firstly, they'll have to close their own exemption,

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<v Speaker 10>close that loophole if it have any credibility, and I

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<v Speaker 10>expect a carve out for farmers would probably be not

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<v Speaker 10>far off the agenda as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think the whole principle of taxing unrealized capital gains,

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<v Speaker 2>it is beyond the payoff.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a disgrace, it is unethical.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about the coalition's breakup now reunion.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>You've actually written an article today where you said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about the mess over the past few days,

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<v Speaker 2>and you say this is the sort of kindergarten behavior

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<v Speaker 2>that has engraced Australian TV screens since they canceled Romper Room, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I was on.

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<v Speaker 3>Always very well behaved on.

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<v Speaker 2>But Steve, I mean, none of this really matters in

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<v Speaker 2>the long term.

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<v Speaker 3>They're having a squabble. Now, they'll work it out. They

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<v Speaker 3>have to be the coalition. They can't win. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to win the next election.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, but they can't even have a chance of it

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not the coalition.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a beautifully written column by Joe, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was you know, he's talking about armageddon. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he went a little bit over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>With some of his descriptions of just how bad and

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, they split up for a few days. Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, who would have thought Joe was exaggerating? Who

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought they ever? But you know they had

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<v Speaker 1>to get back together. I mean, as I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the Nationals had four policies that were going

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<v Speaker 1>to die on a heillover. Susan Lee originally said well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to accept all of those. So they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go our own way. Now they're back together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the biggest, biggest problem the coalition has is

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got forty three seats to ninety four. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>forget the internal squabbling and arguing. People I speak to

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<v Speaker 1>look at me and say, well, is at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the Liberal Party? Well, let's hope for Australia's sake

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not the end of the Liberal Party, because

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<v Speaker 1>without a coalition and a decent opposition, you end up

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<v Speaker 1>with things like I'm expencing right here in Victoria after

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<v Speaker 1>ten years of labor, where they've said the state broke

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<v Speaker 1>and people just can't believe how bad it is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because we haven't had a decent opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>You need one, No exactly, and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to that machete attack in a moment. But you know, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that the media is completely distracted by

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<v Speaker 2>the coalition right now. No one's focusing on well, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the new government doing? Are they all on holidays?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they actually working? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, Susan lays a placeholder, she's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there.

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<v Speaker 9>No.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that is true, but that's also a symptom

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<v Speaker 10>of just how divided the Liberal Party is and the

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<v Speaker 10>fact that you know, people around, obviously Angus Taylor or

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<v Speaker 10>other rivals are saying, well, now there's going to be

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<v Speaker 10>blood ledding literally the day she's elected. They're coming after it.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's before you even get to the coal issue.

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<v Speaker 10>Angus Taylor's we don't know necessarily, but clearly, well he

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<v Speaker 10>was her rival for the leadership, and we don't know

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<v Speaker 10>if there's any other one, so, you know, unless it's

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<v Speaker 10>an empty chair like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was when I'm just objecting to I don't think he said.

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<v Speaker 10>There was going to be no no, but his camp

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<v Speaker 10>it was quote, there were people, there were people in

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<v Speaker 10>the Liberal Party saying there was going to be blood

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<v Speaker 10>letting after Susan they got elected. And I'm assuming that

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<v Speaker 10>that wasn't from her supporters, So who else it is, Well,

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<v Speaker 10>we shall see. But again, the reason why the Liberal

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<v Speaker 10>Party is in such a parlor state in the Parliament

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<v Speaker 10>and has a record loan and the College has a

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<v Speaker 10>record load number of seats is because of this same division.

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<v Speaker 10>It's because there was division between campaign headquarters and Peter

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<v Speaker 10>Dutton's traveling team and they weren't talking to each other.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, all of this has been ventilated. So in politics,

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 10>disunity is death. If the you know, you say, why

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 10>aren't they holding the government to account? Well, the government

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<v Speaker 10>was in the middle of a massive factional brawl over

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 10>Anthony Albanese's cabinet picks and what with the Liberal Party doing.

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 10>They were said, hold my bear, will break up the

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<v Speaker 10>entire coalition. And again all David Little Proud had to

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<v Speaker 10>do was just wait for the Liberal Party to actually

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<v Speaker 10>hold its own post election review, which you do after

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 10>every election, come back and say, look, these are the

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 10>policy positions we were What do you think Instead he says, oh, no,

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 10>you have to do this before you've even had a review.

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 10>Otherwise we're walking out, and half an hour later publicly says,

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<v Speaker 10>such a mess. It's over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>A Beg got it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know we don't even need to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on them for another couple of years until there's a

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<v Speaker 2>new leader who has a chanced that holding Alban.

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<v Speaker 3>Easy to account.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's turn back to Victoria Steve. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you on this show, you've been saying to me that

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<v Speaker 2>the Alan government needs to ban the sale of machetes.

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<v Speaker 3>We've spoken about this so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, after a devastating weekend of crime, they've agreed to

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<v Speaker 2>put this temporary ban on, but the premier is still

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<v Speaker 2>resisting bringing forward the full permanent ban.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand. Its September one. You will not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to walk around the streets of Melbourne in

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<v Speaker 1>a hoodie carrying a sword or a machette. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you have to wait till September one to

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<v Speaker 1>do that? That's ridiculous. We have kids out there as

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<v Speaker 1>young as thirteen, fourteen, fifteen running up and down main

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>streets invading people's houses carrying machetes. Now, what she's announced

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>today will do absolutely nothing. You think about it, She says,

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<v Speaker 1>as of midday Wednesday, it will be illegal to sell

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<v Speaker 1>a machete. I mean, what world is she living in?

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<v Speaker 1>These kids buy them online. They don't go into Bunnings

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<v Speaker 1>and buy a machete. They get them online. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the houses that was raided after what happened in that

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>North Point shopping center on the weekend, there was thirty

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 1>weapons in the house. Where are the parents for a start,

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>but there's thirty weapons in this house. I mean, this

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is just madness. And guess what if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>or if you live in Wodonga, you can drive over

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<v Speaker 1>the Murray River on Wednesday at three o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon and go to the Aubrey min ten and buy

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<v Speaker 1>a machette and drive back to Victoria. And Victoria's the

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>only state doing it. How is that going to stop

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>people buying machetes. It's ridiculous. It's a nee jerk reaction

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<v Speaker 1>from her. She should have got these laws in place

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and we might be able to fix this problem up.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other problem is that magistrates just keep giving

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 1>these guys bail and so they go, well, you know,

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>they let me out. I'm not going to jail, so

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll just keep them a shitty and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>text someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, those left wing magistrates in Victoria are a

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<v Speaker 2>huge part of the problem, as you say, and not

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 2>just on this issue, but on a lot of issues.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, we're out of time. See if Joan ran.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke earlier in the show about Sarah Milgrim, who

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<v Speaker 2>should have been starting one of the happiest chapters of

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<v Speaker 2>her life.

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<v Speaker 3>Her boyfriend was about to propose he just bought a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, they were killed as they left the Jewish Museum

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington last week. Now, one of Sarah's friends, aolet Rauzin,

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 2>joins us now from Israel. IoLET, you're also an expert

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>on international law and human rights. You're the former director

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<v Speaker 2>of International Justice at Israel's Ministry of Justice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>actually interviewed you and met you when I was in

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Israel last year. I'm sorry that we are now speaking

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>again on this topic, and I'm so sorry for your loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us about Sarah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I can.

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<v Speaker 9>I actually met you and met Sarah around my research

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 9>and advocacy on the gender based violence. On October seventh,

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 9>and captive. That's how I met her. She was my

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 9>counterpart in the Israeli Embassy in Washington, and she was

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 9>the one who arranged all the meetings with stakeholders, with

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 9>lawmakers to learn about the evidential status of the sexual

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 9>violence and to promote policies according to what they have

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 9>seen and.

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<v Speaker 3>Been shown.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's a tragedy. She was a beautiful soul, peace

0:26:55.040 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 9>lover and peace activist, and she was murdered brutal only

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 9>because she was Jewish, because she was Israeli. And this

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 9>should be taken of the wake up call, not only

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 9>in the US, but all over the world the next murder.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 9>It's not a question of an if, it's a question

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<v Speaker 9>of a when. And I hope people are starting to

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 9>realize that.

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And you're so right, Isilet, because this climate is emerging

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 2>in America, in Australia, in England, in France, right around

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the world. You know, I spoke earlier globalized the Intravada,

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>this violent activist movement, and we've seen the reaction to

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>this assassination.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 3>There have been all these activists.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>With massive online profiles coming in to defend what he did.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how have you even processed that sort of

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>online reaction to this, you know, shocking tragedy of your friend.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just, you know, it's unbearable, it's unbelievable. It's kind

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 9>of like you brought it on yourself because you're Jewish,

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 9>because you're Israeli, as if Sarah or Ye the rest

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 9>in Peace had anything to do with Israel's policy and

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 9>the war and Gaza and anything. And really, if it's

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 9>not clear that it really doesn't matter if you're pro

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 9>Palestine or pro Israel, whatever you think of the conflict,

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 9>if it's not clear that you cannot murder innocent people

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 9>on you know, at the end of an event of

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 9>the Jewish Museum that really, I don't know where this

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 9>all this is heading, and show me, show me where

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 9>else is there an ethnical group, a religious group, any

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 9>group that has to hide its you know, religious symbols

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 9>that cannot speak its native language out in public. Those

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 9>are the strong recommendations when Israel and Jews travel around

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 9>the world, there's a strong recommendation to be especially aware.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 9>Just yesterday it came out in Canada, not in Afghanistan

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 9>or Iraq. In Canada, Jewish people and Israeli people are

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 9>warned especially not to show their you know, their identity. Yeah,

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 9>because there are strong threats in Canada. Where is this going?

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 9>And more importantly, who's going to stop this?

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>It's going to say, yeah, I let you did a

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:37.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of work on the rapes of women that happened

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>on October seven. I mean, do you think part of

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the problem is that political leaders and the mainstream media

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>have allowed this false narrative to take hold that Israel

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>is committing genocide. I mean, you know, Uron of course

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>was killed, but but Sarah's a woman. We haven't seen

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>this movement in support of her from the feminists.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's in continuation to the to the betrayal

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 9>and the double standard. You know, there's this mantra me

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 9>too unless you're a Jew, which unfortunately is true when

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 9>it comes to Jewish women Israeli women, and there's no

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 9>you know, clear standard on where to draw the line.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 9>And this behavior is setting us back years and years

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 9>in our achievements as humanity, as feminists. The solidarity, you know,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 9>it doesn't it doesn't hold when you're Israeli or Jewish.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 9>But I want to take this a step further. The

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 9>threat of radicals, extremists Islamic. They're a minority, a tiny minority,

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 9>but they're studying the standard. It's not only to Israeli

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 9>As or Jews. Everywhere in the world. Every week or

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 9>so you see some kind of terror attack for a crowd,

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 9>a general crowd, not only israelis not only Jews. And

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 9>if the world doesn't understand this is a threat and

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 9>we need to stand together and push back on it

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 9>and fight it. You know, it's just either stupidity or blindness.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 9>I don't know, or you know, you're one of the

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 9>politically correct.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 3>You're one hundred percent right.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And that shooter of Sarah and Yuron had even posted

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>on social media saying death to America. So this isn't

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>just about Israel. This is about Western civilization. This is

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>spreading the Caliphate and Sharia law and not having the

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>values that we all hold dear in democracy.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Ilet.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry again for the loss of your friend

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and hope that next time we speak it's under better circumstances.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for joining us, Thank you so much. Still

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 3>to come.

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>The ABC has eaten humble Pie after wrongly accusing Coalition

0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>MPs of abandoning their constituents when they died in the bloods.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Plus what possibly could have possessed Chris Bowen to think

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>eating pasta in the middle of mass was good behavior. Well,

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Ray Hardley will be here at the desk after this

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>quick break. Well, Energy Minister Chris Bowen has been put

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>on notice for his appalling manners, having been caught out

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>eating a bowl of pasta during a mass service. And

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>let's bring in radio legend Ray Hadley here right now.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>This is very rude conduct.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 11>Rail Well, look at this, goes Hey and in glove

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 11>with his behavior since he went in parliament, I mean

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 11>he was elected as the youngest mayor in southwestern Sydney.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 11>He's never had a proper job. He obviously doesn't go

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 11>to Mass regularly. And it was a festival and whether

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 11>it was a church or just in some reflection, that

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 11>could have been an area where they're having a mass.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 11>But when you walk into the mass with a bowl

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 11>of nocky and there's a black out in the front

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 11>with his collar on back to the front, speaking of Italian,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 11>anyone with half a brain would think this is either

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 11>wedding ceremony or it's a mass. And whatever it may

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 11>have been that he thought it wasn't you don't sit

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 11>there like we've just seen, skipping up the knock.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just free. But it's just him.

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he's you know, it's what I got the nickname

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 11>I gave him crudely Casanova. But because everything he touches,

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 11>including noki, he stuffs up.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, I'm glad you didn't use the swear word.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that to you.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 10>Show I've got too much time and respect for you.

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 11>But oh, Casaneva, it's just I'm not When I heard

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 11>the story, I wasn't surprised because the blake has the

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 11>IQ of a kumquat.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I've also never seen a politician stuff up so many.

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 11>Times and is I think he must have photos of

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 11>someone in a compromising position, otherwise he'd be They hit

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 11>him during the election, which is a really smart move

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 11>by Anthony Albersi. He was in witness protection, you couldn't

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 11>find him, and now they won overwhelming majority, so all

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 11>of a sudden he's out loose again.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>He isn't in the front paddick again, and.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So arrogant in his social media videos that he does,

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>had a look at them one day, and just so

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>patronizing and arrogant. Anyway, if anyone wants to feel annoyed,

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 2>you can go check out his Instagram. Now, I want

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to take a look at this ABC journalist who was

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to score political points over the Nationals on the

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>ABC Insiders program, and she wrongly accused Coalition MPs of

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>leaving their constituents while they died.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 3>Have a look.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 12>The other thing that's probably really important to regional communities

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 12>is that they have a local member who's there when

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 12>their electorate is, for example, flooding and people are dying,

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 12>and that is what has happened this week. We've seen

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 12>the Nationals doing all of this in Canberra. I think

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 12>the important thing is that when you're in our position,

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 12>it's also still your job to be a local member.

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:50.479
<v Speaker 3>Except that wasn't true.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Those MPs she were speaking about, Alison Panfold and Pat

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Conahan were both in their community. They weren't in Canberra,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and the ABC have now had to issue a statement

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>ray and apart, pologize and say.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>They got it wrong.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 9>Well.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 11>I don't think many people knew who Claudia Loong was

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 11>before this faux pa. But the one thing she has

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 11>to do is check with her sources whether it was

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 11>a leak from the labor camp before her appearance with

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 11>David on Insiders. I'm not quite sure, but I thought

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 11>i'd just check who she is because I'd never heard

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 11>of her. She's been around for seven years, so she

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 11>hasn't just graduated from Charles University yesterday. She's been around

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 11>for seven years. And it's inconceivable, and I guess it's

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 11>going to be a tag that, you know, the poor

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 11>girl now probably feels that silly and that's stupid that

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 11>she believed the person that told her that, And one

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 11>would have to suggest it would be a labor operative briefing.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Her doctor knowing she was going to be on.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 11>It, brief in her Let's rip into these two people

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 11>up in the north coast of New South Wales and

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 11>tear them a new one. And it's completely unacceptable. Look,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 11>I said to staff outside of having a chat with

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 11>some of the younger ones outside about it. If this

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 11>happened in commercial TV or commercial radio, you'd be for

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 11>the high jump. I mean it would be not three warnings,

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 11>it'd be Look, we're going to put you what you're

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 11>going to do with rural news. You're not going to

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 11>cover federal politics. Anymore because whatever source you have is

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 11>so far wrong. We've been highly embarrassed. We've had to

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 11>apologize to the two national politicians, and you know, the

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 11>program loses all credibility with you on it.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you knew you were going to make an

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>allegation like that, you put questions to the MPs and

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 2>then find out that actually they were there, so that

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>well journalist and process wasn't followed. I hadn't ever heard

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 2>of her before either, but then I stopped watching the

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>ABC's I haven't seen Insiders in a long time.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, one of the reasons I asked you

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 11>to be with me on Monday night, or me with

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 11>you more correctly, is because Monday night people used to

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 11>ring me on the radio Tuesday said, you see what

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 11>they said about your media watch last night. I said, listen,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 11>they have eleven or twelve producers to do fifteen minutes

0:36:58.760 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 11>of TV.

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 10>On a Monday day night.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 11>I do fifteen hours with two staff, five days a week.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 11>So the answer the question is they say what they

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 11>like about me. I don't give a tinker's cuss because

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 11>I don't care and I don't watch them, and I

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 11>think based on that plenty of people steering away from

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 11>the ABC as well.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 2>It's also ideological and speak of ideology. I mean, we're

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>starting to see now. And there was this story in

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the Herald today that these climate change activists are already

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>saying that the floods are because of climate change.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.919
<v Speaker 11>Can someone out there explain to me, please? Or cop

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 11>one in one hundred years or cop one in two hundred,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 11>but if there's one person on the planet can tell

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 11>me what was happening in Australia as it was not

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 11>known then in fifteen twenty five. One in five hundred years.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 11>I mean, I'm going to make near Port Quarry. He's

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 11>had two in four years, twenty twenty one and now.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 11>And the poor Blake is just like his mates around him.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 11>In the rural area just the port, there were all

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 11>sorts of strifers. The rivers meet and just converge out

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 11>of the top of them. But they went there knowing

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 11>that from time to time they'll be floods. Unfortunately there's

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 11>been two in four years. But if I read one

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 11>more line about one in five hundred years, can someone

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 11>tell me who was forecasting the weather in fifteen twenty

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 11>five the sixteenth century to say it's one in five

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 11>hundred years.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>How could be one in five hundred years?

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 3>No one was here, It's nonsense, it's fictional.

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 11>Well there were people here, but they were they didn't

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 11>have the implements to measure rain and weather events.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 2>But we do know Dorothy mckella's poem of course, land

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of floods and.

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Sweeping planes.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, now you got me back to sixth class.

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I love it for that country.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 11>Of ragged, ragged mountain range drops and flooding raine.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>There you go, there you go. So we know that

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<v Speaker 2>Australia has been flood prone and there's no evidence that

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<v Speaker 2>this was this is because of climate change, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister was pushing this line as well.

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<v Speaker 3>If we've got that comment, let's have a look.

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<v Speaker 4>We're reminded as well of the need to look at

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<v Speaker 4>the impact and cost of climate change. Whilst Australia has

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<v Speaker 4>always had extreme weather events, the science told us they

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<v Speaker 4>would be more frequent and they would be more intense.

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<v Speaker 4>That is precisely what tragically is playing out with dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with a cyclone off the coast of southeast Queensland and

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<v Speaker 4>northern New South Wales just a short time ago, dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with floods, but also dealing with drought.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I mean what Albanizey said today, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go at what he said earlier in the show about

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and now this as well.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean he seizes upon it like clinging to a lifeboy.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.399
<v Speaker 11>Look the debit about climate change. I used to steer

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 11>clear of it because it's just one of those things.

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<v Speaker 11>You're going to get people with different points of view

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<v Speaker 11>and arguments, and you'll have science on one side and

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 11>science on the other. But if someone can prove to

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<v Speaker 11>me sometime in the foreseeable future that what happened on

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<v Speaker 11>the north coast of New South Wales happened five hundred

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<v Speaker 11>years ago and it's a one in five hundred year event,

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<v Speaker 11>well I'll start believing them. But no one can produce

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<v Speaker 11>that evidence.

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<v Speaker 10>Unfortunately for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now ray the coalition. It seems like they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to win the election in three years. They together, they

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<v Speaker 2>not together, So.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's portray what happens. They get lapped as a coalition

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<v Speaker 11>by the Labor absolutely lapped Hammond, worst result in living memory.

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 11>So Peter Dutton doesn't get re elected. He's gone last

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 11>week's pay. Susan Lee they're beautiful, Angus Taylor loss. So

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<v Speaker 11>what is the first thing the coalition do. The first

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 11>thing they do in front of the entire nation they

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 11>have a blue. They have an argument, and instead of saying, well,

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 11>look let's have calm heads here, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 11>win an election unless we're united on this, let's just

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 11>know so little Proud says that's it. Up you for

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 11>the we're out of here. Then two days later they

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<v Speaker 11>kiss and make up. I mean, I said I think

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<v Speaker 11>to you after the election that this could be a

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<v Speaker 11>two or three term labor government.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way the Liberals and the Nationals.

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<v Speaker 11>Are carrying on, they want to make it a four

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<v Speaker 11>term labor government. I mean, it is just incomprehensible that

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<v Speaker 11>after such a devastating defeat they couldn't put egos aside

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<v Speaker 11>and have an argument down the track about it, or

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<v Speaker 11>do something against some policy on euclear and all the

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<v Speaker 11>other things that the Nationals getting.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 2>They're act together, but don't have a blue.

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<v Speaker 11>Two days after the election and you know, get teddy

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<v Speaker 11>beer out of the cotton say that's it. I'm not

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 11>going to be friends with you anymore. I mean, And

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<v Speaker 11>the other problem is which you and I have discussed

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<v Speaker 11>previously every day. Mark Speakman's the leader of the Liberal

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<v Speaker 11>Party in New South Wales. They're a day further from

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<v Speaker 11>being elected as the next government exactly, and they've got

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 11>the similar problems. They're controlled by the Left in New

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 11>South Wales and they don't want to do the right,

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<v Speaker 11>and the right arm brave enough to take them on.

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<v Speaker 11>And Speakman defends the left and is all about the left,

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 11>and he's got his left tenants around him, the Pretorian

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<v Speaker 11>guard around him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>It's just so anyone's hoping in you South Wales sometime

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.720
<v Speaker 11>soon you're going to have a Liberal National Party government.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't hope no, Okay, I don't know if anyone is hoping.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Chris Mens is doing a reasonable job. But

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you Mark Speakman. Very week, Leader, Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you again another week.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. See you next Monday.

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Thank you and still to come.

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<v Speaker 3>The reporter who took her commitment to the news to

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<v Speaker 3>the next level. I wouldn't do this. Her word is

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<v Speaker 3>breaking live on air.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus Y Media was banned from filming Kamala Harris's speech

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<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast that's next.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Has launched more than three hundred and sixty drones and

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<v Speaker 2>missiles against Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the largest aerial attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the war so far, and at least twelve people,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>including three children, died in this arra President Trump was furious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not happy with what Putin's doing.

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<v Speaker 13>He's killing a lot of people, and I don't know

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 13>what the hell happened to Putin. I've known him a

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 13>long time, always gotten along with him. But he's sending

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 13>rockets into cities and killing people, and I don't like

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 13>it at all. Okay, we're in the middle of talking

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 13>and he's shooting rockets into Kiev and other cities.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time Trump has turned in such a strong

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<v Speaker 2>way on Peutin. Now to discuss guy Andese contributor Kosher

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<v Speaker 2>Garda joins me, Now, Kosher, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean they were talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump seemed to have confidence that Prutin was going to

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>respect him as a man and respect their negotiations. It

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like that with this sort of aerial missile.

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<v Speaker 3>And drone barrage overnight.

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<v Speaker 7>For sure, we've come a long way from his rhetoric

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 7>in the campaign that this would be solved in twenty

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 7>four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I think you know what Putin's calculus here is is

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 7>that he is aware, as many are, that there aren't

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 7>so many moves left on the chessboard because domestically, there

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 7>is almost zero appetite for the US to continue funding

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.439
<v Speaker 7>Ukraine to the levels that it has been, or any

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 7>sort of military involvement or security guarantees or any of that.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 7>And he probably is aware of that. That's Putin's ace

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 7>in the hole, and so he's deciding to go on offense.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 7>It obviously didn't play well with Trump because they're in

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 7>the middle of peace talks and negotiations. I think the

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<v Speaker 7>only moves that he has left are this carrot and

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 7>stick diplomacy, because he's going to stay in the diplomatic lane.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 7>That's what all indications are right now, President Trump, and

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 7>that either looks like more sanctions you know that hasn't

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 7>had that much impact, It's had mixed impact in the past,

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<v Speaker 7>and or how many concessions would be offered to Russian

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<v Speaker 7>We're sort of just in the spiral for now, and

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<v Speaker 7>I hope we see a breakthrough soon, but it doesn't

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 7>look very promising at this moment.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Quite interestingly form a US president hopeful Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia as she headlined a really state event

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<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast, complete media blackout though no cameras

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<v Speaker 2>or reporters allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>To cover it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kosher.

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<v Speaker 3>Why the secrecy? What would she be worried about?

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<v Speaker 7>We can only surmise that I think this is sort

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<v Speaker 7>of a training ground for her. So she just signed

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<v Speaker 7>with CAIA, the pre eminent talent agency in the world,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is her first major paid gig out of

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<v Speaker 7>the gate, coming all the way to the other end

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<v Speaker 7>of the world speaking at this conference, and I think

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 7>sort of just warming up, if you will, for probably

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 7>a two hundred to three hundred thousand dollars speaking fee

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 7>career that she's going to pursue, among other things. And

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 7>you know, she's well known to not be the best speaker,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 7>not great at thinking on her feet from potentially adversarial

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 7>media or scrutinis operatives or reporters in the media. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think she's just giving her curated, stage managed speech

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<v Speaker 7>until she figures out what her new brand is going

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 7>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quickly before you go, Jake Tappa's new book. As

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.800
<v Speaker 2>we've been talking about in the show details Biden's mental decline.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are so many stories now coming out.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Another example is a stage town hall event that was

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<v Speaker 2>so bad the campaign couldn't even use any footage.

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<v Speaker 3>From it, so kosher.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, actually, I bring this up again because this

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>looks like a deliberate cover up that was seriously misleading voters.

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<v Speaker 7>One hundred percent. And there's a lot of these Johnny

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 7>Completely's coming out now because the election finished, We've seen

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 7>the result, and it's easy to come out now and

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.959
<v Speaker 7>the stakes are much lower than they were before the election.

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 7>And that's the other story behind the story here. So

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 7>these details will come out about the extent of the

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 7>cover up, but the media was certainly complicit in the

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 7>authors of the book also were complicit in it. And

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<v Speaker 7>I would say it's probably one of the biggest political

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 7>scandals in modern history, the level of cover up that happened,

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 7>and everybody saw it, even if not to the full extent.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 7>And the scrutiny is going to continue and we're going

0:46:58.440 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 7>to find out more and more details.

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<v Speaker 1>With each one.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 3>The picture looks.

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Worse, and not just the media cover up, because it

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely damages the establishment media in the United States, The

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 2>New York Times and others that would have known about this.

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>CNN they couldn't not know about it if they have

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>good sources in the Democratic Party, which they do, and

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>they didn't report on it.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 3>But it also damages the institution the.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party itself, and how can voters trust it in

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the future when they were seriously putting forward for President Biden.

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, a man until one of those debates was

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>suffering to this extent, this mental decline, to this extent.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is a really big issue that there

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>should be an apology to American voters. Koshagada, thank you

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>so much for your time right and still to come.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 2>If you think you're committed to your job, just wait

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 2>until you see this American television anchor whose waters broke

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>live on air and then she.

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Timed her contractions. That's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I we'd like to think we're all committed to our

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.839
<v Speaker 2>jobs with a good work ethic, but this New York

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>News anchor took her commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>To the next level.

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 8>Olivia's water has broke and she is anchoring the news now.

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 8>In active labor, early labor, early labor. We've been doing

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 8>the contract she's now, you know, timing her contracts two

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 8>minutes apart. No, well there was one, but it's been

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 8>a few minutes since then, so we're still in good shape.

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<v Speaker 8>Her decision to stay on the look at what days past?

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<v Speaker 4>Two days?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there we go.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I know, so we're thinking talking to be here

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<v Speaker 8>and I'll stay on the desk for as long as

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 8>I possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I disappear, so happy for you.

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 8>She's two days overdue, so she wants this baby.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all worked through some tough conditions, but not a

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>lot have worked through tough contractions.

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<v Speaker 3>All the best to Mom and Bob. I'll see you tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>is Paul.