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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to the review, Ladies and gentlemen. We're up

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Speaker 1: to the ground file and qualifiers, but well, a couple

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Speaker 1: of big games this. Firstly, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Sharks and the Raiders. Before we do it, Cooplet's

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Speaker 1: just disclose why you're looking a little bit shady or

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Speaker 1: a little bit creepy. Well, you watched the game here

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Speaker 1: last night, and then the ras man, the ras men

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Speaker 1: came out of his our garage and said to Coop

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Speaker 1: bar mate, there's one or two of the boys down

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Speaker 1: the Coloroid, and you went down there. Next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: you strolling at seven thirty this morning. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Is that something you would congratulate your son on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm all for having a good time, brother. Where'd

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Speaker 1: you go? Where'd you finish up at?

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't even want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to know, Okay, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: the less detail.

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Speaker 1: I don't to criminate yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not that I did anything criminally wrong,

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Speaker 2: but I just I just prefer not to probably disclose

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Speaker 2: sort of. Yeah, I'm just not proud of it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not proud of.

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Speaker 1: Myself trying to legitude should we do a rhyme? Should

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Speaker 1: we have a guest? We asked the maybe the listeners

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Speaker 1: to chip in what they believe might have What happened.

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Speaker 1: Did we're thrown out of anywhere? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Nah, no no, no, let's just let's let's let's let

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Speaker 2: sleeping dogs lie. Yeah, let's just not do it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Thirty to twelve, Sharky's over the Raiders. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the lead up to the game. Firstly, Coop,

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Speaker 1: and the first thing was Ethan Strange ruled out influenza

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Speaker 1: two A. Sorry to ab. There's so many letters and

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Speaker 1: numbers going around A Titus C B A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's so many different strains.

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, he must have got the bad one because

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Speaker 1: he's a tough kid, and they recoon it the Captain's run.

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Speaker 1: He's started feel a little bit crooked, and then woke

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Speaker 1: up yesterday morning and literally couldn't get out of bed.

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Speaker 1: They caught the doctor and he said there is no

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Speaker 1: way you should play health wise. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They said it was like an actual risk to his health. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I never really heard that before.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you have sort of.

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Speaker 2: That flu or influence that people play through it, you

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Speaker 2: can scale your heart, yeah, but it's actually bad like

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Speaker 2: you can have long term impact well too.

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Speaker 1: He was such a loss because he's their vibe. He

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Speaker 1: brings the energy Ethan and so there was a side

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Speaker 1: that was already a little bit on the ropes, a

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Speaker 1: little bit tired. We anticipated that going to take them

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Speaker 1: a little bit to get up emotionally and to loser

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Speaker 1: key player like that just takes the edge off a

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Speaker 1: little bit more going into the game. Raiders were very

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Speaker 1: quite leading into the game. You know, the only thing

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Speaker 1: they ever heard was then probably fending off questions about

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Speaker 1: the previous Sunday's loss and how it would affect them

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Speaker 1: and affect their energy. They sort of that was about

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Speaker 1: the only talking point you heard the Raiders talk about.

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Speaker 1: They sort of kept things under wraps. Sharks have totally

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Speaker 1: changed their ways the last two week. Sharks have really

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Speaker 1: talked tough, mate, They've been right up on their toes.

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Speaker 1: They've been really aggressive going into these games, and I

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Speaker 1: love it the Sharks. To me, every side has an identity.

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Speaker 1: But I think about Melbourne, I go a professionalism discipline.

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Speaker 1: When I think about the Panthers, I think mate, precision.

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Speaker 1: When I think about the Sharks, I think nice guys,

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Speaker 1: that's the first come to mind. But the last two weeks, mate,

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Speaker 1: they've got rid of that persona. They've actually got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of shit on their liver. They've talked a

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Speaker 1: big going into games and they've backed it up. I

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and Ronaldo has been the He's been

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Speaker 2: the forefront of that. He's done his whole life, let alone.

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Speaker 1: This year, but Nico last.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's unlike, Yeah, I like, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people I saw I was watching like NL

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Speaker 2: three sixty and stuff during the week and some of

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Speaker 2: the journals were a little bit you know, you don't

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Speaker 2: you haven't earned the right to be respected yet because

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Speaker 2: until you go down to Canberra and beat Camber in camera. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, that's yeah. But I thought that was pretty

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Speaker 2: tough call. And I think it's for Nicko to put

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Speaker 2: himself in that firing line because if he goes out

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Speaker 2: there and plays a bad game, you know this weekend,

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Speaker 2: that comes back to bite him in a big way.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: But its performs the last two years.

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Speaker 2: I think I think since he's dally m year, it's

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Speaker 2: been his best performance. But yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: putting himself out there to be It's almost a bit

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Speaker 2: of self accountability. I think, ye like forcing themselves. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't give him any other option.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: They've sort of sat back in the media. Niko has

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Speaker 2: particularly this year at times. But I think when you

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Speaker 2: go out in front of the cameras and throw, you know,

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Speaker 2: say that like we want to be respected, YadA YadA,

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Speaker 2: it forces leading into the game to be so precise

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Speaker 1: And I just find it strange that people would say that, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, what are they doing talking up? You don't

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Speaker 1: do that. They haven't earned the right. Hang on a second, mate,

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Speaker 1: you're going down and win it. You're going down to

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Speaker 1: win finals match. You don't want to go down meek

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Speaker 1: and mild with your cap in hand, going oh you know,

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Speaker 1: and tippy toe on and playing on eggshells, playing nervous.

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Speaker 1: Make you get into them, get on the front foot.

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Speaker 1: It's a mind game. Yeah, it's a mind game. They

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Speaker 1: saw a Canber side that was a little bit on

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Speaker 1: and they went from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I watched that. I watched Ricky and Joe

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Speaker 2: Tarpei in the press conference and they got asked that

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Speaker 2: did that loss sort of affect you guys? And they

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Speaker 2: were pretty strong on No. We came in Tuesday and

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Speaker 2: we left it all. But you could tell to yeah,

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Speaker 2: because that first twenty minutes they were strong, they like

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Speaker 2: and Sharks matched them physically and you know, there wasn't

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Speaker 2: at that back end of the game that fatigue, just

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Speaker 2: the fatigue of that game. And last week it just

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Speaker 1: We'll map the game in a second coup. I just

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Speaker 1: want to talk firstly about the late season surge from

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Speaker 1: the Sharks, because all year they've been so so would

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Speaker 1: you say that, like, yeah, how the shows, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: radar bit. But this late season surge, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what it is, mate. They've got firstly, a really

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Speaker 1: kick away second one. This is huge. The key creative

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Speaker 1: players have found, not just top four, they have finally

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Speaker 1: found combination. Trendle, Nicko and Brayley. They're understanding their own strengths.

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Speaker 1: They're understanding the strengths of the blokes they're playing alongside

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Speaker 1: and how to compliment those strengths. The three of those

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Speaker 1: guys last night, how they operate in combination was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that Nico and Trendle combined numerous

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Speaker 1: good and to coop the other one. They've just got

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Speaker 1: great back rowers, mate, They're their back rowers were mighty

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Speaker 1: last night. But I don't know any side in the

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Speaker 1: because the Sharks do have a tendency to just drift

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Speaker 1: sideways a little bit. Nikera Wilton burns. Mate, they straighten

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Speaker 1: tremendous and when you're I'm talking about attack here, but

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Speaker 1: when when you're a tax on song and you're starting

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Speaker 1: to swagger because you're a tax going good, it gives

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Speaker 1: you the motivation to defend your ourself. I'd see that

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Speaker 1: withsides who struggled at school points. Eventually the pressure of

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Speaker 1: that just counsel on their defense. But when you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can see. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: some of the actual tries in a minute, but their

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Speaker 2: identity that we spoke about last week as well, the

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Speaker 2: ability to play off quick play the balls and ad

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Speaker 2: lib footy now yep, Like the years before their knocks

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Speaker 2: sort of been they set up for these big, long

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Speaker 2: and red like because people prepare for that during the week.

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Speaker 2: It's very easy to prepare for plays and that sort

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Speaker 2: of predictable stuff. But the tries that they scored in

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Speaker 2: yesterday's game against Canberra, ninety percent of them I think

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Speaker 2: everyone one was off a play where Nico hits Malatalo

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Speaker 2: the rest of them were all add lib footy great,

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Speaker 2: like that Nico goes down, puts kale Ero through on

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Speaker 2: a line break and then fifth tackle Trindle gets it,

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Speaker 2: fifth tackle shapes to kick, flicks Nico under and then

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Speaker 2: Nico scores like and then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of times they're little structured sequences made

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Speaker 1: the break and their ability to react off that game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just thought it was good. It was

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Speaker 2: a good It's a good visual for them going Melbourne

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Speaker 2: next week to play against the storm of how they

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Speaker 2: need to play their footage yep, because you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: Melbourne is so precise with video sessions and how to

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Speaker 2: shut down key players and they'll know what players that

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Speaker 2: they like, every individual's favorite foot to step off and

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Speaker 2: shit like that. The only thing that they can't prepare

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Speaker 2: for is the footy that they just played against Cambros yep.

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Speaker 1: The ability to someone to watch spots something and sense

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Speaker 1: of vulnerability send someone looks a little bit tired, defensive

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Speaker 1: patterns or defensive defense lines not in order. There's something missing,

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Speaker 1: that's the stuff that's hard to defend. And what has

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Speaker 1: to find this final series so far, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is I can't remember a final series where it's almost

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Speaker 1: like every error is getting punished badly, whether it be

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Speaker 1: sustained possessions for the side who you know who they surrender, sorry,

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Speaker 1: sustained possession to the opposition. But the seven tackle sense

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Speaker 1: a really big one. Seven tackle sets are always costly,

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Speaker 1: but this final series really have been and it's the

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Speaker 1: eras that errors that have killed Canbra Canbra in this game, Coop.

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Speaker 1: They looked physically, you could see, mate, You could see it.

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Speaker 1: Just the more that Cronulla had the ball, the closer

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Speaker 1: you could see Canbra getting to hitting the wall. And

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Speaker 1: in the second half that try the Billy Burns scored. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where he wandered up to the line and given the

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Speaker 1: context of the importance of the game and the fact

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Speaker 1: that it was twelve all at the time, it was

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Speaker 1: a soft try, but it was a fatigue try. He

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Speaker 1: just went through a defense line that had that had

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Speaker 1: eight and twelve at that point you're going, well, the

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Speaker 1: game is still a beout. It wasn't. You could see

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Speaker 1: it with your eye. Canbra were done at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just said fatigue try I think every try,

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Speaker 2: I think that first twenty minutes was so physical, so

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Speaker 1: I thought he was probably the Raiders' best player.

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Speaker 1: and that one was Jesse Raymian, like Caronulla had three

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Speaker 1: an unforgivable error there. And then what happens Camber make

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Speaker 1: But I don't in a lot of ways, I don't

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Speaker 1: what happens is he actually squeezes in just a little

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Speaker 1: There wasn't anyone within ten to fifteen meters of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you talk about the front rowers and the middles

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Speaker 2: because that's letting people know that's that's as a half

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Speaker 2: they're fresh, they come out and put so much inside

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Speaker 2: think that's just a byproduct of that first twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: There was so much fatigue, Yeah, so much ball in

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Speaker 2: play that that's where you saw those fatigue easy tries

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Speaker 2: they just yeah, I mean they just missed it by

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Speaker 1: But Nico, I do think outside defenders these days too much.

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Speaker 1: funny Sharks suit scored soon after. And if we're talking

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Speaker 1: down that left hand edge again, the attacking the Raiders

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's Trindle that tells why looks

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Speaker 2: I think it's the best that they've combined since they've

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Speaker 2: when Trendle gets it on fifth tackle and takes off

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Speaker 2: like that, It'd be easy for Nico to stand back

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Speaker 2: call for it because it's fifth tackle, right, Like, Nico's

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Speaker 2: where Tricky has taken off, and rather than sit back

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Speaker 2: he reacts and combines, drops whatever he's doing and just

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Speaker 1: Scores a try. Yeah and Coop. Halftime comes right at

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Speaker 1: the right time for Camebra because Sharks have gone try

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Speaker 1: try and like sound like a broken record. You can

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Speaker 1: and after halftime they have a really good period with

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Speaker 1: And so the scores twelve to six, they're down. It's

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Speaker 1: Fair decision. But the next set of next set or two,

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Speaker 1: they've still got field position and Tamala scores to make

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Speaker 1: they've rested up at halftime, they've got themselves back in

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Speaker 1: the game. It's twelve twelve games in the balance. But

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Speaker 1: through and scores. It's you know, eighteen twelve after the conversion,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think a good sort of

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Speaker 2: was and it wasn't by lack of effort and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. I think it was just a big, big

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Speaker 2: and unfortunate circumstances, you know, I think Weeks or Foggty

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Speaker 2: freeze frame it. When that ball hits the ground, there's

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Speaker 2: So that's I think it's a good indication of their

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's leading up that try, coop like it

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Speaker 1: nice we have it on our backs. Harder I work

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Speaker 1: like you, I get did you Yeah? Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: This is where they start to fall. The bits because

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Speaker 1: Foggedy's sensors. Mate, we need something. They are only about

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Speaker 1: forty meters out in their own line. He does an

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Speaker 1: an attack position. Trindle puts up the talk per bomb. They

430
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Speaker 1: let a bounce and bounces back and they score twenty

431
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Speaker 1: six twelve and that's all over and again that fuel position,

432
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Speaker 1: the position they found themselves in to put the attacking

433
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: kick was becurse of Canbra, it was course of Canber. Mentally,

434
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: they just lost their way. They just lost all composure.

435
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Speaker 2: How do you see like when you look back at

436
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: the raid of season, they obviously performed like this game aside,

437
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Speaker 2: right and last week aside. They've had an amazing season

438
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Speaker 2: where they've over they've probably exceeded expectations. A lot of

439
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: people gave them wouldn't chance, the wouldn't spoon. They proved

440
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: everyone wrong. Do you look back at their season now

441
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: and think that potentially, I don't want to say they

442
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: played their grand final during the year to get to

443
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: the minor premiership, but do you think they put so

444
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: much emphasis all year on proving people wrong because they

445
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: so many people said the Wooden spoon and shit that

446
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: when they got to Finals footy, it was like they

447
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: were fatigued from just such a larger year.

448
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Speaker 1: I just think I think what popped the blurm on

449
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: their season was that was that last forty and it's

450
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Speaker 1: a regular time against the Broncos. Because they were playing

451
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: great football there, you know, it wasn't as they went

452
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: into their game and suddenly you know, they were terrible,

453
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, they basically cut their

454
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Speaker 1: own throats in the game. Their biggest crime was there

455
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: they just stopped playing and they didn't. I'm not going

456
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: to say did they learn their lesson? Well, it's hard

457
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: to know because they weren't in that position again. They'll

458
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: learn their lesson going forward. This final series would be

459
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: fantastic for some of those young blokes, as like, it

460
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: hurts like hell now, but as far as experience and

461
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: knowing what to do next, it's going to be invaluable.

462
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: A couple of things for aside that was had such

463
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Speaker 1: an incredible regular season, they lost their last three games.

464
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Speaker 1: I wonder sometimes with Ricky, I wonder if I wonder

465
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Speaker 1: if he regrets resting all those blokes that last game

466
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Speaker 1: against Dolphins, because you know, because okay, they had they

467
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: had had all the young guys in with Corey Halls

468
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: were one or two other guys, but it was all

469
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Speaker 1: the young guys. They rested all their stars, and you go, okay,

470
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, you take their willing to take a loss.

471
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Speaker 1: But at the time, I was watching Ricky on the sideline,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, when we went past fifty points on the

473
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Speaker 1: school board, I'm thinking, I know all these stars aren't

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: out there, but is this just causing a little bit

475
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: of damage, you know what I mean to.

476
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: Psyche to the momentum at the moment.

477
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Speaker 1: Then they went in the week after and they get

478
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: beat by the Broncos, and it's a really funny thing. Coops.

479
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many things as far as timing,

480
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: concern timing, as far as injuries, playing your best football,

481
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: but also mate, you know yourself, sometimes you get to

482
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Speaker 1: the end of a year and you can be playing

483
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: great for whatever reason, just for two gets in everyone's bones.

484
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Speaker 1: Did you get that?

485
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Speaker 2: I agree?

486
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Speaker 1: I agree.

487
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Speaker 2: We were in a like this is comparing to Queensland

488
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: Cup level here, so you know's bear with me, but

489
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: we were in the same position a queens and Cut

490
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: where we won the minor premiership. At the Falcons, we

491
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: had red outside, but we went sort of we lost

492
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: our last game leading into finals, and then we lost

493
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: week one of finals. Jade managed to get our way

494
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: to prelim and then got beat again. Like we we

495
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: lost one game all year and then the last and

496
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: then two games in finals. Right yeah, yeah, so that was,

497
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit different to Raiders. But I

498
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: found that and chatting to a few of the boys

499
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: in that side upon reviewing it, it was, like you said,

500
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: timing and peaking at the right time. I think we

501
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: peaked sort of when other teams were a bit down.

502
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: And when you're at the when you're at the top

503
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: during the year, it's very hard to get better. It's

504
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: very hard to review yourself and get better. I think

505
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Speaker 2: this is where the Raid and I was. I sort

506
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: of said it leading the finals for the Raiders, I

507
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't know if they had another year in finals, right

508
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: because all the other teams who finished below them, they're

509
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: reviewing them, they're taking aspects of their game and they're

510
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: making sure that they get better and they're peaking into finals.

511
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Speaker 2: But I didn't think, you know, like when you peak

512
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: during the year, how you know and get better, if

513
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: that makes.

514
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Speaker 1: Sense, It's very hard to sustainable year. We were a

515
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: similar thing in ninety eight. In ninety eight we were

516
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: joint Minor Premiers with the Broncos. But I started recognizing

517
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: that the back end of that regular season, I think

518
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: picking up injuries. You know, it wasn't the same zest training.

519
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's getting a bit tied and we get zest, you know,

520
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: zest for laugh, zes for training. And we went in

521
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: the first week at the finals. We had the first

522
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Speaker 1: week off, sorry because US and the Broncos played the

523
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: second week against the Roosters. We've bitten him sixteen all

524
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: at half time and they burat us at home first

525
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: week the final. So we're to play the Dogs the

526
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: next week the Sydney Football Stadium. Guess what happens. We're

527
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: leading the Dogs eighteen points at halftime. Guess what. They

528
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: run us down and boat us extra time. It was

529
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: like we just whether it be mental or physical, we

530
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: just hit the wall. We just hit the wall at

531
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Speaker 1: the wrong time. I think Ricky, I think Ricky in

532
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: time will look back at this season with so much

533
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Speaker 1: with a lot of joy, and you know, for him

534
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: it was it was a great season. I think it's

535
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: his best ever coaching season. And I think he looks

536
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: back at that when he looks back at the run

537
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Speaker 1: that the players had, the way that young guys have

538
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: come on, the re emergence of the Green Machine, the

539
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: home crowd, the way the community behind them, and the

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: other thing seeing your son come into the team and

541
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: excel like like okay, sometimes there's more to it than

542
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: just trophies. And I think as much as if you're

543
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: hurting right now, I think in time, you'll look back

544
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: at this season be really proud.

545
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: Do you think he gets daim Coach of the Year.

546
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I.

547
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Speaker 1: Do, I do. I do. Let's tell what we're going

548
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: to do now, coops, we are I'm about to go

549
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: into work right of course, it's about to be the

550
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Panthers up against the dogs. I believe it full time.

551
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: You guys are going to give me a call.

552
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: Yes, because you know we usually last week you come

553
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: home after and we film after the show. But you're

554
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: going out for dinner with Fletch and whatnot.

555
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: We fletching the boys. Yeah, so I'll trist said to

556
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: me what time to expect me? Will you be late?

557
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: So I said, defined late and she said late is anything?

558
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: Say around past midnight, about one o'clock And I said,

559
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: I'll be lateish.

560
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: See if you can do one not me?

561
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think seven am. No, No, those days

562
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: are long, long behind me. All that ha. A bit

563
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: a month ago, I got home as you were going

564
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: to work so full thirty. Who knows. Let's do it again, brother, Let's.

565
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Run it back. I'll speak to you soon, boys, and

566
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: welcome back to the same episode. We're back once again

567
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: this morning. We obviously got up early to review the

568
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 2: Canberra versus Who do Cambra play? Yesterday?

569
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: Jack Sharky?

570
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: They played the Sharkies. We got up early to review that.

571
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: To the listeners who are still listening to this episode,

572
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: I want to apologize. I had and a lot of

573
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: people resonate with this. I was very hungover and I

574
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: could not articulate a sentence together, let alone. I knew

575
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: what I wanted to say, Jack, but it just couldn't

576
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: go from my brain to my mouth. Do you think

577
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: that's fair?

578
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just had to look at it before. You

579
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: don't look well, it looks like you just got up

580
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: out of bed.

581
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: To be fair, I had, I'd had a couple of

582
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: hours sleep and then obviously we had to do it

583
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: before Dad headed into studio to watch the game in there.

584
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: I have rested since, so you should see a more

585
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: well hydrated, more articulate version of me. But Jack and

586
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: I have sat down. We just watched the Penrith Verse

587
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Bulldogs game. Just first, Jack off the top two mad

588
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: fan bases. How good was the atmosphere out there? And

589
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: did you see the videos of the Bulldogs walking from

590
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: their hotel to the stadium as well?

591
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was unreal. Just to let people know too,

592
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: we've got Matthew ringing in soon in any minute. But yeah,

593
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: it looked incredible the crowd, especially when Galvin scored that

594
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: try just sort of bring him closer to the Penrith

595
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: Panthers after they got away with a good start. Geez,

596
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: it looked like the crowd was going off out there.

597
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, those Doggies fans are there. I mean, obviously they

598
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: hung in there right until the end of the fans

599
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: because imagine would have been pretty hard. They would have

600
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: wanted to leave quite early, but they were so vocal

601
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: the whole time, and it actually makes you want to

602
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: play for the Dogs in that sense. I reckon. Yeah,

603
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: they've got such a sick fan base.

604
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Speaker 3: They do, and they look like they're a fan base

605
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: much like the Newcastle supporters. They look like they really

606
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: enjoy watching them team, you know, do effort things, not

607
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: just do like the you know, spontaneous, great attacking stuff.

608
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: They love watching their team, you know, Bash do the

609
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: nitty gritty stuff. You know, players like Salmon men, Salmon, Salmon, Salmon,

610
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: the gutter dog. He's become slowly my favorite player, some

611
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: of that sort of stuff. Like you can see their

612
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: fans really they enjoy watching it. They like that style

613
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: of football, which is actually really good to see the

614
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: energy resonate off the fans.

615
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and just quietly as well. Obviously Penrith are

616
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: too good today. They were unbelievable, probably one of the

617
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: one of their I think it was their best performance

618
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: of the whole year so far. They're peaking right at

619
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 2: the right time. But we do have a new addition

620
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Speaker 2: to the studio here. We've got a picture that Jack

621
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Speaker 2: has found. It is the Canniby Bulldogs twenty four team.

622
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Speaker 3: I believe Jack, Yeah, you would have seen it in

623
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Speaker 3: the first part, it would have been in the back corner. Actually,

624
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Speaker 3: I'll blow it up for yours so you can see

625
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: it in the YouTube. But it's a photo photo is it?

626
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Speaker 3: Two thousand and four?

627
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Speaker 2: I believe photo.

628
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Speaker 3: You're all the old boys in there, and then in

629
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Speaker 3: the left corner you've got Reggie Boy and there should

630
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: be a little like if you if you see it,

631
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: I'll blow it up for you. It should say middle

632
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: row on the left, Red Reagan in brackets Motivational Health

633
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: and Fitness coordinator. So that was Actually that's a fair

634
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: bit of a laugh for the dogs back in the

635
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: day because I thought teams took things a bit more

636
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: serious when it comes to those big games.

637
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't reckon they did because I remember Dad, don't

638
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Dad had so much access as Red Reagan to a

639
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: lot of teams in a sanctum. I feel like we

640
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: just said it around.

641
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: You would just say that reg had more access than Matthew.

642
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

643
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: But I think because they knew they weren't going to

644
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: like how do I put this, They weren't going.

645
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: To get grilled.

646
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: They weren't going to get grilled Like you see people,

647
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: they're very protective of the inner sanctum now, like you

648
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 2: don't really see too much of you know, like your

649
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Red Wagan's whether he was one of a kind, there's

650
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: not many of him getting around. But you don't really

651
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: see those kind of people getting in and around finals

652
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: time in the clubs and doing stuff with players and

653
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: coaches and shit like they were back then.

654
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, teams get very sick now too. I even remember

655
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: the year after I think we were kids when Dad

656
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: was doing stuff with the Tigers. Remember we went to

657
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: the captain's run for the Grand Final against the Cowboys

658
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: and they got all paranoid when a was it a

659
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: helicopter or a plane went over the stadium when they

660
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: were doing their captains run and they were freaking out.

661
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. We're about to get into the Panrith

662
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: first Bulldogs game are But are the stat that I

663
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: heard the other day Nathan Cleary has not lost a

664
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: day game since twenty nineteen.

665
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how many that would be. I

666
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: know they've played. They've just won eight in a row

667
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: so this year, so there's eight, so you only get

668
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: so many. They might have gone on. They might have

669
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: gone on a pretty low run and they're a pretty

670
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: good attacking team they like today. How good was their

671
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: completion rate early? Like they were relentless, Like they didn't

672
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: give They just looked like they absolutely suffocated the Dogs,

673
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: even though the Dogs got the first points on the

674
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: board in that first twenty minutes, it was Yeah, it

675
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: was pretty relentless.

676
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that first ten minutes. I didn't think the

677
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Dogs did too much wrong. I thought they were unbelievably

678
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: physically they were all over I thought they were actually

679
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: really all over Penrith at the start. Do you feel

680
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: that as well, particularly like that first set, And we

681
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: said this last week they did the same thing against Melbourne.

682
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: They come out of the blocks firing, firing, and then

683
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: Melbourne kind of absorbed that pressure and counterpunched with after

684
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes when they really took the sting out of Bulldogs.

685
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 2: But the Bulldogs what I love what they did this

686
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: week was that first Kickchase. They had a huge Kickchase

687
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: did a number on the back three of Penrith. Nathan

688
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: goes to kick and then Villie Arma kickow flies out

689
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: of the line, kick pressures knocks it down. They get

690
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: a penalty to take the two because Dylan Edwards holds him,

691
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: but that's how you need to take on Penrith. We've

692
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: said this before. It's like they want if you try

693
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: to replicate how they try to play and do you know,

694
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: like just try to kick pressure, just do do the

695
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: same cycles that they do and just try to build

696
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: pressure and beat them in the back end of the game.

697
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: You're not going to beat them because they're too good

698
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, that's where you get the upper hand

699
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: like that, like little trick play like William kick coming

700
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: out and trying to do a charge down.

701
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredited kick out too. You could tell from the

702
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: get go, even from running out as as captain of

703
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: the game, you could see he was up for it.

704
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: And even like last ten minutes, last five minutes of

705
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: the game when he tackled Liam Martin, he was tackling

706
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: that aggressively. You could see that he definitely wasn't going

707
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: to die die guessing like he was doing his best

708
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: there to try and change the momentum for the for

709
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: the Doggies pack.

710
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, let's quickly just talk about

711
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: what we thought the Dogs did wrong, because like we said,

712
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: that start was really good physically, Yeah, what I think

713
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: they didn't do enough of and they started to do

714
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: it towards the back into the game, but it was

715
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: too late. I love when they shift out of their

716
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: own end a little bit because that first set they

717
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: went boom shift and I found Berdo on the left

718
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: hand side who made sort of a half dint. They

719
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: looked really fast, played really quick. When fatigue started to

720
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: get in, they just like, and I get it happens

721
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: because you don't have as many numbers coming back on

722
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: the kick chase. But they just went into their shell

723
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: and just sort of went Carras up, Brons and Cherry

724
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: up just to send people one up, which is still

725
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: a good play. They got good ball runners. But when

726
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: they started to shift out of that midfield, and you

727
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: saw it when Galvin scored, he went down the short side,

728
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: little no look short past Jacob Preston, he goes through

729
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: Fines Galvin back on the inside. They weren't playing any

730
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: footy out of their own end. They were almost just

731
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: trying to get one up, one up, one up. And

732
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: when you try to do that against Penrith, Penrith are

733
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: they're probably they're probably the smartest football side in identifying

734
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: what you're doing, so they can pressed right up a

735
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: lot of the time. They put about four people into

736
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: a lot of the tackles and just drive you back.

737
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: What even I'd even say, like what you were saying earlier,

738
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: where where with the Doggies they should have expanded a

739
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: bit more. Was Penrith were that relentless like you were

740
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: saying identifying I look at that and I thought to myself,

741
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: more disciplined, Like they were so disciplined with what they

742
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: probably game planned against the Dogs, Like I was watching

743
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: out of their end when they were defending after a

744
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: kick chase. They were that compressed, like they'd obviously game

745
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: planned what the Doggies do. And they've got good outside

746
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: backs and not huge blokes, but they run hard, straight

747
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: inside a that they just tightened right up. And I

748
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: don't think Penrith even let a yardage penalty out until

749
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: like the late thirtieth minute, So they spent that first

750
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: thirty not making a single error in their defense pretty

751
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: much in those tough areas that it just suffocated the Doggies.

752
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: I do agree that they probably needed to maybe on

753
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: that third tackle shifted a bit more. But then in

754
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: the the late of that half, after that penalty, I

755
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: remember Kurt Man got it and they were. It might've

756
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: been early in the second half Kurt Man got it

757
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: and they actually tried to do that, and then whoever

758
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: the Taalangy Tallangy's defense was relentless all the game. He

759
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: kept jamming in like he got Galvin early, then he

760
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: got Burdo. Yeah, yeah, he got Burdo. He just made

761
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: like two and forced two errors, forced a pass that

762
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been a pass, and then forced an er

763
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: off Burdo. I think it just rattled them earlier in

764
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: those early stages.

765
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: I agree, and like I'm nitpicking there what the Dogs

766
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: could have done or could have kept doing as they

767
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: started to try to keep putting more pressure on Penrith.

768
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: But I think Penrith beat everyone in the top eight

769
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: with how they played today. I thought they were unbelievable,

770
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Like you said, with their defense, they were so aggressive.

771
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: I didn't think the Dogs their edges. I didn't think

772
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: they were aggressive enough on Penrith. They gave them a

773
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: lot of time and you saw a lot of their

774
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: tries come off sort of late jams, and then they

775
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: got quick hands to Alamodi and Bryan to but t'lungy

776
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: really set the standard. I love what he did over

777
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Galvin and Berdo and when they identified the shape, he

778
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: gets up gets aggressive force. Two big errors. But I

779
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: want to talk to about the penrith first try. I

780
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: believe it was and I thought it was. If you

781
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: go back to this first try, the first shape that

782
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: they run to the right hand side, Nathan goes to

783
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: the line, plays out the back they have and they

784
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: did it all day. We just said they're set up

785
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: on shape was second to none. I don't think I've

786
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: watched attacking shades being run with such perfection and precision. Yeah, ever,

787
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: as like that, that is an example that every team

788
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: and every coach should take.

789
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: You could even see like Shane Elford, their their blue

790
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: shirt that was out there they go. He got trouble,

791
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: got in trouble earlier in the year. Every time the

792
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: ball got to the center, he had his hand up

793
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: and was just cheering as if they'd already scored the try.

794
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: It's like he's watched it all week at training. I

795
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: bet he's just watched them consistently do it day in

796
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: day out that he knew by the time he got

797
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: to that stage where the winger was open and all

798
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: they needed to do was pin their ears back.

799
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: He knew it was going to be a try and

800
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: it's such simple fundamentals, but they do it so well,

801
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: and under fatigue and under pressure when you have people

802
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: flying out like they just so calm. Casey McLean had

803
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: a couple of really nice quick hands to Brian to

804
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: and even when he's he didn't really get a clean catch,

805
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 2: but still gets to pass away.

806
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one that he got. He got

807
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: some he got some balls behind his right shoulder and

808
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: around that quick and somehow got the ball to toe

809
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: just to just to let him just do his job

810
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: and then pin the years back and you're what I

811
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 3: was like, when you give him an inn, she takes

812
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: a mile like he's a great finisher like Alamodi.

813
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: Catching and passing. It's like it it's such an easy

814
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: thing to say, but unless you unless you've like played

815
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: a lot of football and trained day to day, you

816
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: don't understand how much of a difference. And even people

817
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: at the highest level they can't do it that well.

818
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: Like you actually don't realize how many people don't. Aren't

819
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: aren't you know, detailed, unfatigued with their passing and then

820
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: getting a clean catch. Pendrith do it so well, they're

821
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: a couple of their shapes too, were just so nice,

822
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: like clearly finding yo in the middle. They had a

823
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: lot of real short precision passing, just putting putting people

824
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: one on one, Like I thought it was so nice,

825
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: and then yeah, I was.

826
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: Going to say on that, like on those detail things

827
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: for the average partter like they might think. You know,

828
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: as an NL player, their job is to you know,

829
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: their job is to be great at attacking. A lot

830
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: of the reasons a lot of these guys as good

831
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: at those little details when they get to NROL levels

832
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: because they were so good at it growing up. A

833
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: lot of their work in the week to week goes

834
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: to the other side of their game, which is the defense.

835
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 3: Some players are taught week in week out that they're

836
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: not going to play unless they do their defense. And

837
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: sometimes what they can do is they can make their

838
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: attack quite scrappy and then you see it. I remember

839
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: a couple of years back in twenty twenty one when

840
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: we were living with the Panthers and during their period

841
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 3: of their finals campaign up there at Twin Waters during

842
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: the COVID year, people were watching the all the coaches

843
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: from all the other clubs were like spying on their

844
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: training sessions, trying to get a gauge of what they

845
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: were doing because they were just so dominant that year.

846
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: They reckon. They weren't doing anything like other than the

847
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: usual doing what you do in pre season, which is

848
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: just doing the basics skills skills skills, getting them that

849
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 3: crisp and then like Shane Elford was doing, he knew

850
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: as soon as that ball went out to the center.

851
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: It's like he knew every time it was going to

852
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: be a try.

853
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did. Like so many clubs in the

854
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: NROL don't actually practice the fundamentals because they've got so

855
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: much other shit to worry about, Like they might be

856
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: worrying about their defense or you know, like the bottom

857
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: eight clubs, right, they've got so much stuff to worry about.

858
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: You know, they might get a new coach so that

859
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: he comes in with a whole new game plan, trying

860
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: to teach people moves and a new strategy with their

861
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: attack and defense. Then that's what they drill in the preseason.

862
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: The beauty of clubs like Penrith, clubs like probably the

863
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: Roosters because they've had a consistent coach and Melbourne is

864
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: they've got a system that they've had for a decade.

865
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: They don't need to change too much. So Penrith, when

866
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: those boys come back for preseason, all Ivan and that

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: have to worry about is getting them fit and then

868
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: getting the fundamentals of the game. Their skill. You know,

869
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: they're one on one tackling, just very simple things. He

870
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: just trains that into them all preseasons so that like

871
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: their detail on those little things are so perfect.

872
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: Even like a shift, Like they're so consistent every time

873
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: they get to a final series, little things like their

874
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: discipline in those yardish defensive sets where they're all compressed.

875
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes some coaches go into those big games and they

876
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: think they need to spend half a session drilling it

877
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: into players, and what that does is it actually takes

878
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: away from the details of their skill, their core skills

879
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: and those major things. It's almost like trying to fix

880
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: a hole in the boat, but at the same time

881
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: another hole is popping up, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

882
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: you're hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging.

883
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: I felt that Like when I was at Manly, I

884
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: used to say the same thing. It was like, oh,

885
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: there's so many problems, like whether they off field or

886
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: on field. It was like, you've got one band aid?

887
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: What do you what do you fucking put it on?

888
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you're just bleeding out like

889
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: you may as well just you know, just abandoned ship.

890
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: Well, you you've got two centers on the field. One

891
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: center might be having really a problem all week with

892
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: this like catch pass, and the other center might be

893
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: having a problem with their edge defense. So you know,

894
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: you could either train them separately, but a lot of

895
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: the time they're going to train opposite each other all

896
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: all week long. So what do you focus on one

897
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: you're training in one session, you're telling him to focus

898
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: on one part of the game. The other one sitting

899
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: there listening overhearing it, probably thinking about that rather than

900
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be worrying about his own deficiencies.

901
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Nathan Cleary was unbelievable today, kicked a

902
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: nice forty twenty. But it's just his organization what he

903
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: was doing off the ball. You could see he was

904
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: just so on today, how straight detail and all the shape.

905
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: And we were talking while the game was playing. When

906
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: they scored that first try, bryn To own that left corner,

907
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: nice shift to the right. It gets fifth tackle, and

908
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: we've seen Nathan do this trend to a fair bit

909
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: lately Jack where on the fifth tackle he'll sort of

910
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: shape to kick and then just throw it like a

911
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: sort of a three man cut out ball to one

912
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: of his rock forwards. We saw I think last week

913
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: he threw it and the rock forward actually just went

914
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: straight over and scored. This time, he sort of missed it,

915
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: sort of hit the ground. Lindsay Smith picked it up,

916
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: found Casey McClain, Casey McLain, finds Brian Totto. But he's

917
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: obviously seen a trend in the NRL where if on

918
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: fifth tackle, obviously that the edges might not really get

919
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: up because they're folding for the kick. They're preparing for

920
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: a kick. So he's I love what he's been doing

921
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: with it lately, messing with defense because you see it's

922
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: it was such an easy try for him.

923
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: Well a lot of the time to like you think

924
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: when you're doing a setup like that, he's like a

925
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 3: lot of the defenders I think they were thinking, either

926
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna knock it back behind him with all those

927
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: lead runners in front of him, all he's going to

928
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: try and do a cross kick. I don't even think

929
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: when he grabbed got in his hands, not once did

930
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: he even look like kicking like he it was almost

931
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: like he preempted that he's going to be passing the

932
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: ball regardless of you know, what the defense does. It

933
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: was Yeah, Yeah, it was pretty It's working for him

934
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: at the moment because it's led to two tries two

935
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: weeks in a row.

936
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was a masterclass. Do you have

937
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: a back fence player of the game.

938
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: My back fence player probably The battle between kick Out

939
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: and Liam Martin was pretty savage all game. I think

940
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Liam Martin got the better of him, but he did

941
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: a few little things. Liam Martin some of his kickchase efforts,

942
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 3: like relentless every time that ball goes up, they were kicking.

943
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: Nathan was kicking that right corner all game. He never

944
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: gave Connor Tracy or who was the left edge the

945
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: jeath throw Jethrow. He never gave him an inch like

946
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 3: he was that solid all day with his kick chase.

947
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: It was just suffocated him.

948
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I was going to go Nathan Cleary,

949
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: but I'm going the I'm going the two and five

950
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: for penrith Ala Moddi and Brian to Yeah, I think

951
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: they both ran over two hundred meters, but yeah, both

952
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: unbelievable there. I didn't see them jack yet put on

953
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: their back once out of the backfield. The work that

954
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: they do for their forwards and for Nathan get starting

955
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: the sets off, well, it must be a pleasure to

956
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: play behind those two.

957
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: I had a mate message with me through the game.

958
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: Go jeez, I didn't realize, you know, when he took

959
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: that intercept, Brian toh, yeah, he goes, I didn't realize

960
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 3: how slow it was. Yeah, because he's done that much work.

961
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: He just that's him ticking over two hundred meters with

962
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: like thirty minutes left to go on the game, Like

963
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: he does that much off the ball. But again he's

964
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: like he's bread and butter is what he does out

965
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: of yardage. He never gets put on his back, No, never,

966
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: Like he's one of the hardest blokes. He's low to

967
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: the ground and he's just one of the hardest blokes

968
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: to get on his back. I think Alamotti got him

969
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: by about thirty or forty meters in the end.

970
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't only got a hat trick as well. Yeah,

971
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: and you know I was I was critical. I'm not

972
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: critical but I questioned the decision to drop Tom Jenkins, yeah,

973
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, because I thought he'd been one of

974
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: the most consistent players all year. And obviously I haven't

975
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: put Paul Alamolly in, who's played a lot of finals,

976
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: scored two tries some of the Grand Final last year. Honestly,

977
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: in the two weeks that he's been back in the

978
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: NRL side after being eighteenth man most of the back

979
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: end of the year, he's been unbelievable.

980
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: You'd love to know. You'd love to live in Ivan's

981
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: head and just go what on earth? Like is it

982
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: a personality thing or is it a type of player thing,

983
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: because there's must be something there that he knows Alamotti

984
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: shows up for big games because he's had some massive

985
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: moments for that club, especially in the last two years

986
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 3: in big games. That three tries today and then what

987
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: did he get two last week against the Wise? Yeah,

988
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: like he has to have something that Ivan goes. I

989
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: know he's a big game player, but I'd just love

990
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: to know if it's personality or skill set.

991
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know

992
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: the answers.

993
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: He's a hell of a finisher, but like every time

994
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: he gets it, he backs himself.

995
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Hell of a finisher and he's got a little bit

996
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: of swagger too. You said up there that he was

997
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: built like a Transformer.

998
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, then the Transformers one, the one that's the Porsche

999
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: who gets up and he's like got like really high

1000
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: on his toe. That's the one he reminds me of.

1001
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1002
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: He's bloody built, bloody built, and you know what, I

1003
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: haven't had much to do with him, but I reckon

1004
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: he looks like a half decent bloke as well.

1005
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: I love to view with him.

1006
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon.

1007
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

1008
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: And we're going to ring Matthew as well, just to

1009
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: get his thoughts on the game before we wrap up

1010
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: the podcast groups. Maddie, Johnsy Hell are you brother, mate,

1011
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: We're alive on the on the program. Thanks for joining us.

1012
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: We live, no problem, mate. We're just thinking of the game.

1013
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: Mate, Me and Jack. We've we've just talked about it

1014
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: for about twenty minutes, mate, So that'd be interesting. That's

1015
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: pretty low comment, mate, talk about because essentially essentially our

1016
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: knowledge has just passed down from you. So that's a

1017
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: reflection of yourself, right.

1018
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 5: Blame the DNA, Yeah, they were they were just Yeah,

1019
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 5: Pennos were just mate, it was just we're talking before, mate.

1020
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: One side was playing football, the other one was playing science.

1021
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 5: A big difference made like you, dogs were trying hard

1022
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: the bust of their ass, but the other side is

1023
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: just too good the precision and you know, probably emblematic

1024
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: of it when you look at the Panthers first two

1025
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 5: tries which were just made insane. You know, everyone doing

1026
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 5: their right job, quick hands through the line, high pressure passing,

1027
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 5: but made it look easy, too good.

1028
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have a back fence player of the

1029
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: of this match? Do you want to hear Jack?

1030
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Who was yours?

1031
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: Again?

1032
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: I had? I had Liam Martin in the end.

1033
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had. I had the wingers Brian and

1034
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: paul A Lamotti, the dynamic duo. Who do you are?

1035
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 6: Ala?

1036
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 5: Modi has been unbelievable, mate. Honestly, when he gets in

1037
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: big games he goes good.

1038
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: Now, revelation he was a revelation would you say?

1039
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? He revelations is great word? But mate, if you

1040
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 5: look at him, made the dogs let him go, The

1041
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: Dogs send him on his way and they're still playing

1042
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 5: I think half his contract, so maybe three tries today? Yeah, player,

1043
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: I'm going Moses Oh yeah, the King, Yeah he was.

1044
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 5: He was fantastic McClain like Leam Martin. Mate, one bloke

1045
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: who has got a keen curious eye is Nathan Hei Marsh.

1046
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to put Heindi on the line. People, here

1047
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: is an exclusive to the John's podcast. Is Heindi? Heindi

1048
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: telling what you think about the and extend on more

1049
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 5: than did tonight Phil extend.

1050
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 4: It explore the space.

1051
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 5: Hello.

1052
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: Who am I speaking with?

1053
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Hey Nathan, Hi Marsh, you're talking to Cooper and Jack Johns. Mate,

1054
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: welcome to the podcast. You're live eleven.

1055
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 5: This is eleven.

1056
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, MATEO. I know you don't do many sort

1057
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: of spots that aren't paid these days, so I'll try

1058
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: to keep it quite brief for you, mate. What do

1059
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: you think of the game?

1060
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: I thought it was an outstanding game. I thought the

1061
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: Pendant Panthers were clinical. His outo backs were great, towards

1062
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: were awesome, bench were awesome, which Kenny sets up a try.

1063
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: Also he was great And there was a little bit

1064
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: of a little bit of an issue with Liam Martin

1065
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: at the back end of the game where he looks

1066
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: like he's gone down with an injury. He's gone up

1067
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: into the sheds up the tunnel, he's killed over, he's

1068
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: grimaced with pain, winced even according to Brian Fletcher. And

1069
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: then he's come out and do an interview with Jakie

1070
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: Duke after and pretty much just tried to tell the

1071
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: public that he was just winded. But we think that's

1072
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 4: a bit of horse play.

1073
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: So you think, so you think he's a liar, Lee.

1074
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Speaker 4: Martin, Well, I will say liar. Yes, I'll say liar.

1075
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 4: I know that's a bit of aggressive for some, but

1076
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, yes, he's lying, he's not telling

1077
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 4: people what we want to hear. I think he's actually

1078
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: busted a rib and he's out there on a brave face.

1079
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: He's done an interview, and you think, when you're labeling

1080
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: a liar, is that is that just is that just

1081
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: on field or is that like relationship like all others?

1082
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 4: Has always been very good for us on Fox League

1083
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 4: Brian Flechandi on The Madey John Show. So yeah, I've

1084
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 4: got no issues with Lear Martin whatsoever regards to him

1085
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: as a person. Just the fact that he he's pretending

1086
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: that he's not injured when he is, so therefore he's alive.

1087
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: Now, what's on the agenda for you guys tonight. You

1088
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: guys going to dinner, is that right?

1089
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a sophisticated dinner, just the Maddie John's crew,

1090
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: Maddy John's crew. So we'll be having a little bit

1091
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: of wine, a couple of pastors, maybe a sitzel, and

1092
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: then we'll be all tacked up in bed. That reason,

1093
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: we'll time to watch the Formula one hopefully. Yeah, I'm

1094
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: looking forward to you.

1095
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: Are your Formula one man?

1096
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: I am that's your Formula one man?

1097
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

1098
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: Right, and this and you're not just using our platform

1099
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: to plug like something that you being paid to plug?

1100
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: Right, No, it's the key it has been was in

1101
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: the Formula one. Well maybe but unfortunately it's not a

1102
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: great you but on the F one track maybe not

1103
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: so there it is.

1104
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: Well, thanks Handy. It's been a pleasure to have have

1105
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: you come on the program.

1106
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: Mate, it's been a pleasure being on.

1107
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: Guys.

1108
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

1109
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, do you hear jack Man?

1110
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: Gloody?

1111
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: Guys. Wrian's driving they're putty on pretty on speaker.

1112
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: Brian's driving there, Brian contending the drive.

1113
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 6: Hey fletch, great, Hey guys.

1114
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: How are you fletched? Welcome to the program.

1115
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 6: Mate, thank you very much.

1116
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: Are we live, but we're not live like it is

1117
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: a podcast, so we can edit anything you want to

1118
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: say out if you want to bag anyone or what's

1119
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: the deal? All right, what's the deal?

1120
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: Mate?

1121
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: We just wanted to see what's on the agenda tonight.

1122
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 2: Handy said it's going to be quite tamed, red wine,

1123
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 2: schnitzels and past or. Is that the same for you?

1124
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 6: Well, it will be, but he he forgot to mention

1125
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 6: he guys, let's.

1126
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 5: Just and.

1127
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 4: No, I did not say that. I said nothing of

1128
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: the thought, nothing of the thought.

1129
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going to go, Yeah, we're going to go

1130
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: to Bill and Tony's clawed. He's the owner and Eva.

1131
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 6: So they've been in the cafe business for a long

1132
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 6: long time. First started at Castle Hill. Yeah, and what

1133
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 6: the Bill and Tony has been going to This is

1134
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 6: the sixtieth year it's been open.

1135
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1136
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 6: So they gorded about fifteen years ago and have just

1137
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 6: dramatically turned it into one of Sydney's favorite Italian restaurants,

1138
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 6: not only good for businessmen but also great for family.

1139
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: Can I ask Brian, are you guys paying for this dinner?

1140
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: Or is this is this like a part of some

1141
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: sort of freeview.

1142
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 6: Look, I'm willing to pay, but I presume they want

1143
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: something for their services. But now I think it is

1144
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 6: on the house gratis if you will.

1145
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh well, but that's you know, that's not that's not

1146
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: a testament. It's a test into what you three you know, Matthew,

1147
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: Hendi and Fletch. You guys do week in week out

1148
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: for the rugby league community. Bill and Tony are rewarding

1149
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: you for that effort. So congratulations, Uh more than Bill.

1150
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 6: If you can't be If you can't be rewarded from

1151
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 6: Bill and Tony, who else do you want to be

1152
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 6: rewarded by?

1153
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: Hey? Yeah?

1154
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: Cool?

1155
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I heard Hendi's got some cash in his wallet.

1156
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they can get a start a little bit later.

1157
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 6: And he's going to turn that into two hundred one dollars.

1158
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, thanks for joining the program, guys, Thanks boys, thanks,

1159
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: good goodbye everyone. Thanks for joining the program.

1160
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 5: He mate, mate, really proud that YouTube lakes must done.

1161
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, right? Cool?

1162
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: I wish I could say the same, see matey bye bye.

1163
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: Well that was interesting.

1164
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: That was not what I expected it to be.

1165
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: But never again, thanks for filling into.

1166
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: Dad's shoes today, Jack okay, thanks Preview on Wednesday, Man.

1167
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: Thanks for destroying ras Man for me. This is my

1168
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: day off. Your bastard, it's all right, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Whoever over on