1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I get a team. I hope you will. I'm not 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: sure how this episode's going to go because I don't know. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: I don't know I know what I want to talk 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: about generally, and as you can tell already in the 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: first thirty seconds, I'm not incredibly well planned. And just 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: if YI, the way that I do these freestyle solo 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: episodes is I have a thought or an idea that 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I think is broadly relevant, and I want to share 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: insights and stories and ideas around that, but don't I 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: don't have a script. So if periodically these are not 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: the super slick, polished, you know, highly produced, mind blowing 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: kind of experience that some podcasts are not mine, but 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: some are, I apologize in advance, but I think. I 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: think what I want to talk about today is a 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: really important topic and a really interesting thing to think 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: about at this point in time for all of us. 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: And as you know, because you've already read the blurb 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: or you've seen the title, I want to talk about 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: the idea of being wrong and the fact that we 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: are so reluctant to say we are wrong, or to 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: not only say that we're wrong, but even to consider 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: the fact that we could be wrong. We could have 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: made a mistake, we could have fucked up, we could 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: be completely, unequivocally, absolutely flawed in our thinking, but we 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: don't want to say that for a range of reasons, 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: which I will go into if I remember. But you know, 27 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: here's a sentence that very very few people would say, 28 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: and you will, you know, like you know, religious leaders, politicians, 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: health experts, spiritual gurus, nutritional zealots, in general, narcissists. Most 30 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: people with a platform and a decent audience would not 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: say something like, Look, here's what I believe, but I 32 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: could be wrong. Here's what I believe, but I could 33 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: be wrong. And that's for a range of reasons. But 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: the problem is that one of the many problems around 35 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: this inability, or this lack of willingness to even think that. Look, 36 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I can have certain ideas and beliefs, and I guess 37 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: ideologies and philosophies that I can share with the world. 38 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: But if I'm genuine about this thing called personal growth 39 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: and service and kindness and having an awareness bigger than 40 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: me and all of these things that I bang on about, 41 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: I need to know, and I do know, and I 42 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: do acknowledge that I will probably say things today in 43 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: this little monologue that in a week I might go, 44 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: I don't exactly think that anymore, or perhaps I got 45 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: that wrong, or perhaps I could have explained that better, 46 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: or perhaps I didn't really articulate that in a way 47 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: which lands with people. Not a bad idea, just explain 48 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: fucking terribly harps, as I often do. And for me, 49 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: this need that everyone has to be right. It's a 50 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: self created anchor. Like if you're wrong, if you get 51 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: something wrong one, it's okay. You're human. Of course you'll 52 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: get shit wrong. And if you're wrong, you're wrong, it's okay. 53 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be the end of you. In fact, 54 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: it might be the beginning of something better, because when 55 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: we know better, sometimes we can do better. Like our ego, 56 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: our ego wants us to be right, and we don't. 57 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: We don't like being wrong because it makes us uncomfortable. 58 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: We don't like being wrong because we might, we might 59 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: lose face, we might get embarrassed, we might get disconnected 60 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: from the group. We want to be right. We want 61 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: to be right because we want to impress people. It's 62 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: like being right is being smart. Being smart is in 63 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: our minds. Sometimes it's social currency. It's being connected. Look 64 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: at me. I know. We don't want to look stupid. 65 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: We don't want to be embarrassed, we don't want to 66 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: be disconnected, we don't want to be thought less of, 67 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: And so we just fucking dig our heels in because 68 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: we know we're right, and we know we belong to 69 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: the right group. We I hate the thought that we 70 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: could be wrong, in part because our identity is intertwined 71 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: with this idea that we think is right, with this 72 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: belief that we think is right, that this philosophy, this ideology, 73 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: this way of thinking doing being that we believe is 74 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: unequivocally the right way or the right idea or the 75 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: right paradigm to inhabit. But, as I've said many times before, 76 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: the problem with this, the problem with knowing that I'm 77 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: right in inverted commas asterisk, the problem with knowing that 78 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I am right also means that I concurrently know wink 79 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: wink wink, that everyone in the world who doesn't agree 80 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: with me is wrong. Well that's all kinds of precarious 81 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: for the people around you and for you, because at 82 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the moment that I think I am unequivocally right, I 83 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: mean general terms, everything that I believe is true. Then 84 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I believe everybody that doesn't believe like me is is wrong. 85 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: And now now I'm a wall Now I'm now I'm unteachable. 86 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Now I can't unlearn and relearn because I already know. 87 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: And the you know you think about you think about 88 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the consequences of being okay perhaps with being wrong, like 89 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm ok to be wrong. In fact, not only am 90 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: I okay to be wrong. I find it interesting and 91 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: sometimes empowering when I learn something new which supersedes what 92 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: I thought by you, or it undoes what I thought 93 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: on you, or it proves to me unequivocally that what 94 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: I was doing or that my thought or my idea 95 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: or my protocol was in some way somewhere between a 96 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: bit wrong and completely fucking flawed. You know, like the 97 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: way that the way that I ate when I was young, 98 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: I thought I ate mostly healthy. I thought the way 99 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: that when I was you know, I'm talking about thirty 100 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: years ago, when I was a young PT gym owner, 101 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I was training lots of people, and without going into specific, 102 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: some of the things that I was teaching people back 103 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: then about everything from training and progression and recovery and 104 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: nutrition and genetic optimization and some of the things that 105 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I was teaching people were somewhere between completely fucking flawed 106 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: and not the best device. And was there any resistance 107 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: in me to say that I got it wrong? Of course, 108 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: of course there was. Because I wanted to look good, 109 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be smart. I have an ego, I 110 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: have self esteem. I was the leader. I didn't want 111 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: the people around me to think that the leader didn't know. 112 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: But of course the fucking leader didn't know what he 113 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: was doing half the time. Of course I got things wrong. 114 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Of Course I still get things wrong. And when I 115 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: learned to do better and I learned to get over 116 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: my own bullshit, which is still a work in progress, 117 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: and I started to actually acknowledge to people that without 118 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: giving fifteen reasons or rationalizations or justifications. But I just 119 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: started to explain to people or share with people. Ah, 120 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I completely got that wrong. I got that wrong. It's 121 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: like I got the food pyramid wrong. I've got the 122 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: food pyramid wrong, because the food pyramid we now know 123 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: is very fucking flawed science. In fact, it's not even science, 124 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: it's propaganda. I won't go into that. Well, this is 125 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: what I currently believe. Anyway, The problem is or the 126 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: reality for me was I was teaching people how to 127 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: eat a certain way based on a science in inverted 128 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: commas that was at the very least flawed. I was 129 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: teaching people to have lots of grains and lots of 130 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: cereals and hardly any fats, and as as per my 131 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: education around how to eat well. And that's not good 132 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: or bad. That's just part of my story. And when 133 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: I understood what I was doing, and when I understood 134 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: the mistakes I was making, I endeavored to rectify them 135 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and to learn more and to keep learning. Which is 136 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: why you know, at sixty one years young, I'm still studying. 137 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm literally still studying and I'm still learning. And when 138 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I finished my PhD, which will hopefully be pretty soon, 139 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I will keep learning. I will keep unlearning, I will 140 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: keep learning. I will keep getting things wrong. I will 141 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: keep admitting that I'm getting things right and wrong. But 142 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: I will be open to I will be open to 143 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: fucking up. I will be open to not knowing. I 144 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: will be open to admitting that I got something wrong, 145 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: because that is how I learn and grow and evolved, 146 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: and that is how I be authentic and live in 147 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: alignment with the stuff. The stuff that I teach you. 148 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, for me, there was a period of time where, 149 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: talking about things that I personally got wrong, I believe 150 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: that training every day was the optimal way for me 151 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to train. Now I'm talking about back in the days 152 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: where I trained hard and heavy every day, which I 153 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: do not do anymore. I trained differently. I still train 154 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: most days, but it varies between pretty easy and quite hard. 155 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: But there was a period of time there where I 156 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: pretty much trained in period of time I mean years 157 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: and years where I trained seven days a week like 158 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: a crazy person. I trained hard and heavy and intense, 159 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: and I was quite in quite good shape, and I 160 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: had quite a lot of muscle, which is what I 161 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: wanted at that stage. And I was quite big, which 162 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: was what I wanted. That's another conversation, a flawed idea, 163 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: by the way, but nonetheless that's what I wanted at 164 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: the time. And then when I opened my first PT studio, 165 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I was busy than I'd ever been in my life. 166 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, I had this business. I 167 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: had this bricks and mortar business. I had staff, I 168 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: had a team to lead. I had to run an 169 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: organization and train people, train clients, educate clients and also 170 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: train my trainers to be trainers in a time where 171 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: nine ninety there were no personal trainers or very few. 172 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: There was no qualification, there was no insurance, there was 173 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: no personal training industry. So I'm trying to figure out 174 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: how to how to create an industry that doesn't exist. 175 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how to train clients, how 176 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: to understand all the things that I didn't understand, how 177 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: to deal with real estate agents and lawyers and accountants 178 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and have all these fucking grown up conversations. And one 179 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: of the byproducts of that was I had to reduce 180 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: my training from seven days a week to three just 181 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: because I literally did not have enough time. I was 182 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: getting to the gym at four thirty five o'clock and 183 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: leaving at ten, and I was fucking exhausted. And so 184 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I made a decision to compromise my training and to 185 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: go from seven days a week to three days a 186 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: week for a period of time, knowing in inverted commas 187 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: that I would go backwards, I would lose strength and 188 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: I would lose size. But I literally went from zero 189 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: days or maybe one day a week recovery to four 190 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: days a week recovery and three days a week. Training 191 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: on the three days a week, I trained as well 192 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: as I could, and to my absolute astonishment, but not yours, 193 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: because you're smarter than me. To my absolute astonishment, what 194 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: happened in the first few weeks was because I never 195 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: trained two days in a row, and by the time 196 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I got to train, I was so fucking excited and enthusiastic, 197 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: and my body was so well recovered compared to normal. 198 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: I got stronger, and I don't mean one percent stronger, 199 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: I got ten to fifteen percent stronger. In about a month, 200 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: all of my lifts started to go up, all of 201 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: my aches and pains disappeared, my joints were better, My 202 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: recovery was fucking astonishing, my sleep was awesome, and everything 203 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: started to improve. And everything that I'd done, and everything 204 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: that I had thought about recovery and about how many 205 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: days I should train and how much recovery I should have, 206 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: and pretty much all of it was wrong. All of 207 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: it was wrong. But what was great was in the 208 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: middle of learning that I was wrong, I also learned 209 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: at that time in my life in that training model, 210 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: I learned what would work for me, And so out 211 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: of that willingness to go and by the way, I 212 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: couldn't even argue that I was wrong because the evidence 213 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: was overwhelming. But it also it changed the way that 214 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I communicated with people about strength and hyperch fear and 215 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: building muscle and recovery and building power and building strength 216 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and improving function. Because here's what, and it's kind of embarrassing, 217 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: but it's just true. Here's what. I didn't really understand 218 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: how to optimize rest and recovery because I was twenty 219 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: six and stupid. I didn't really understand it. I didn't 220 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: really under you know, I theoretically understood it, but experientially 221 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: and on a deep level, I didn't truly understand how 222 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: significant it was to not only train my body optimally, 223 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: but to to let it recover and to give it 224 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: space away from the dumbbells and bar bells. You know, 225 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: I remember many times in my business where you know, 226 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: so my business started as a small fifteen hundred square 227 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: foot facility in Hampton Street, Hampton, and you know, so 228 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: literally a fifty foot by thirty foot room or thereabouts, 229 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: with a couple of little change rooms off that and 230 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a very small kitchen, so ladies changing room, guys change room, 231 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: a couple of toilets, no showers, a very small kitchen 232 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: at and around fifteen hundred square foot of floor space, 233 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: which compared to my subsequent studios, was tiny, but at 234 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: the time it was fucking amazing. But then I went 235 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: from there and that did really well, and I got 236 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: pretty busy, and that fifteen hundred square foot space didn't 237 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: really after a while accommodate my trainers and their clients 238 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: or our clients, and it was getting a little bit 239 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: claustrophobic in there. So I moved to another facility which 240 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: was double that, three thousand square feet, and then that 241 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: was in Hampton Bluff Road in Melbourne. And then I 242 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: opened another one in Corefield, which is about twice that. Again, 243 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: then I opened another one concurrently, so I had all these. 244 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Then I had another one in Brighton which was ten 245 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: thousand square feet, which was at the time the biggest 246 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: training definitely the biggest personal training facility in the Southern 247 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Hemisphere and maybe the world. Very very very well equipped 248 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: all of that, and so I went from this. I 249 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: went from this very small operation to this big operation. 250 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: I also opened two other businesses. There's a point to 251 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: this story, it's coming. I also opened two other bricks 252 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: and mortar businesses in the health and wellness space. So 253 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: at a certain time I had five standalone businesses, five 254 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: lots of stuff, a team of about one hundred at 255 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: that stage. And how I'd been taught and told and 256 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: trained was that bigger is better, that more businesses, more locations, 257 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: more staff, more income is better. And I guess it 258 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: depends on your metrics for measuring better in inverted commas, 259 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: or the KPIs for success. But for me, the bit 260 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: that I got wrong in business is that I thought, 261 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: and again, this was my wrong. It might for somebody 262 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: else that might not be wrong, by the way, But 263 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: as my business grew, and as my team grew, and 264 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: as my responsibilities grew, and as my number of locations 265 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: grew and expanded, and even as my brand and profile grew, 266 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and I started traveling and speaking at conferences, and as 267 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: all of that grew, so did my exhaustion, So did 268 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: my anxiety, so did at times my confusion. And I'm 269 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: just speaking personally here, And so for me, what I 270 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: discovered for me, for Craig Harper, the biggest business is 271 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: not the best business. Now, even if for me that, 272 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: by the way, all of those businesses were making money, 273 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: so it's not like, Wow, I was going broke. I 274 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: wasn't going broke. All businesses were in the black. Everything 275 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: from a financial point of view was doing okay. But 276 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: what I got wrong was I somehow thought that if 277 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: I can build this fucking empire, because I that's the 278 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: model of success that I grew up in, is that 279 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: that more is better, that bigger is better, that more 280 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: income equals more happiness, that more moving parts equals more flexibility, 281 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: and more variable variables equals better outcomes. And for me 282 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. And it wasn't that it was 283 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: catastrophic or terrifying. But I can honestly say, from the 284 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: first to fifteen hundred square foot studio to where I had, 285 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, some years later, a multitude of locations and 286 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: different businesses and lots of people, it didn't equate to 287 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: my life is better. It didn't equate to I'm happier, 288 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm more fulfilled. It didn't equate to enjoy, It didn't 289 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: equate to calm. For some other person, my wrong could 290 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: have been their right, but I got it wrong for me. 291 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: And the moment that I mean, the moment that I 292 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: kind of realized that this is this particular operating system, 293 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: this protocol, this model, whatever you want to call it, 294 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: this way of working, this way of doing life, this 295 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: way of building an empire, this way of a creating income. 296 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: For me, it's not optimal, optimal, And I could do 297 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: a whole podcast on why. But what was good was 298 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: it made me realize, or it helped me realize what 299 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do and who I didn't want 300 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: to be. And what I don't want to be is 301 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. What I don't want to be is a 302 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: massive business owner with a thousand moving parts and a 303 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: thousand staff. I don't want that. And it's not that 304 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that's bad, but it's just not that it's not good 305 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: for me. Like for me, this the idea of not 306 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: being wrong is ridiculous for me personally, because I've gotten 307 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: so many things wrong. And I don't say that with 308 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: false humility, I really have. You know, there was a 309 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: time when my leadership model was everybody's got to fucking 310 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: love me. I've got to be everybody's friend. I've got 311 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: to be all things for all people. I've got to 312 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: be the most resilient, the most resistant. I've got to 313 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: be the happiest. I've got to be the funnest. I've 314 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: got to be the best guy. I can't have any 315 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: chinks in my armor. I can't let the fucking guard down. 316 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I can't let people see behind the Craig curtain. I've 317 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: got to be an inspiration all the time. And every 318 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: just doesn't work, does it? Because one, that's bullshit, nobody's that. 319 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: But because I was insecure, and because I wanted to 320 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: be liked, and because I wanted I didn't want any 321 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: fucking waves. I wanted everything to be smooth sailing, because 322 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: that's how life works. I'm going smooth sailing. I was 323 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the chronic people pleaser, even as a boss, I was 324 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: a fucking people pleaser. And then one day, not literally, 325 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: but one day I went, how I do this doesn't work? 326 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: How I do this doesn't work? Even you know, there's 327 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: a real m. How do I say this? There's a 328 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: real I think there's a real propensity for peace. People 329 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: who have a platform like me to say what they 330 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: think people want to hear, to say what they think 331 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: will be popular, to say what they think will earn 332 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: them browning points or more followers or more likes or 333 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: more friends, or more acceptance. But they're not they're not 334 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: being genuine, they're not saying what they In fact, sometimes 335 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: they don't even fucking know what they think, because you know, 336 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: at the core of their message, it's really what do 337 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: you want me to think? What do you want me 338 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: to say? What will What can I say that will 339 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: make you like me? What can I say that will 340 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: make me more popular? How do I get you to 341 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about me more? How do I you know? But 342 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it that also doesn't 343 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: work because eventually that fizzles out. Eventually, you know, the 344 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: amount of people in my journey that I've pissed off 345 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: or people that have disc agreed with me or whatever, 346 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: which are many, also many that have agreed, many that 347 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: like and support also, but also over time what has 348 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: happened quite a bit is people have circled back and gone, 349 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of pissed me off when you 350 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: said this, or you kind of I didn't agree with this, 351 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: or but I kind of get it. I kind of 352 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: get it. And you know, when I share, like when 353 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: I talk on this podcast, when I coach, when i'm 354 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: mentor I'm well aware that I am not the popular 355 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: voice I'm not the comfortable, user friendly voice. I'm well aware. 356 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm well aware that I could say things and do 357 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: things on my platforms that will probably get more likes 358 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: and follows and clicks and support. I'm well aware, But 359 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: I also know that I wouldn't be being me. I 360 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: would be all playing someone else. And I don't say 361 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: things because I want to piss people off. I don't 362 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: say things because I want to alienate anyone. I say 363 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: things because that's what I believe in that moment to 364 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: be true. That's what I believe to be good advice, 365 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: or that's what I believe to be an interesting story 366 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: that might create some insight or awareness or curiosity or 367 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: inspiration for my audience. That's what I do. But also 368 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm well aware that in the doing of that, in 369 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: the sharing and the inspiring and the storytelling and the 370 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: downloading of science and different kind of ideas, I'm well 371 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: aware that I will on a pretty regular basis not 372 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: only will I fuck things up, not only will I 373 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: get things wrong, but I'll alienate people. And guess what, 374 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay with all that. And the reason I'm okay 375 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: with all that is because I don't have an option 376 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: because if I choose not to be okay with that, 377 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: then I've I've either got a one pretend I'm someone else, 378 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: or two constantly have my feelings hurt and constantly get 379 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: in therapy because people don't align or agree or support 380 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, And I think just this 381 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: propensity to be able to or this perhaps capacity is 382 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: a better word to be able to, you know, reflect 383 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: as I've taken you through a couple of times through 384 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: the whole kind of self reflection, self awareness, self regulation, 385 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: kind of you know, pathway to be able to just 386 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: self reflect? Am I getting things wrong? Is there any 387 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: way that this thing that I think is not true? 388 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: And you know, the truth is that when we are 389 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: more vulnerable, when we are more flawed publicly, when we 390 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: are more open and honest with our own bullshit. This 391 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: is just my opinion, But I truly believe the fact 392 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: that I am not spectacular, the fact that I am 393 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: not a genius, the fact that I have spoken many 394 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: times about, you know, my mediocre childhood and mediocre me 395 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of my mediocre childhood. But the fact 396 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: that I also I'm very hopeful and I'm willing to 397 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: work hard and I'm willing to fall down and get up, 398 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: and I'm willing to support and encourage you, and I'm 399 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: willing for you to like me or not like me. 400 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm okay with all of that. I think it's being that, 401 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: being a version of that, your realest, rawst, most authentic 402 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: self that you can be. I think it's that that 403 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: makes you actually more relatable, more authentic, more real, more 404 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: potentially more likable to the people around you. When people 405 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: see you, whether or not that's they read you, or 406 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: they hear you, or they see you on a video 407 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: or they just see you out and about. When people 408 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: see you, and what they see is this flawed but 409 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: relatable kind you know, human just trying to navigate the 410 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: fucking mayhem that is life. And in the middle of 411 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: all of that, you can share some kind of kindness 412 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: or wisdom or insight or generosity or love. That's a 413 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: recipe for connection, that's a recipe for engagement. That's a 414 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: recipe for trust and respect. And you know that you're 415 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: wrong a lot, and we know that you're wrong a lot, 416 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean we've got to walk around and 417 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: beat ourselves up. But if we are constantly on this 418 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: chest beating kind of war path of my beliefs are wrong, 419 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: your beliefs sorry, my beliefs are right, your beliefs are wrong. 420 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: It's not a way to exist moving or not a 421 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: healthy way to exist. There's so much less pressure being 422 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: able to go, oh, I was wrong. And also there 423 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: will be times where you get it right, and there'll 424 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: be times where you don't even know. Maybe you think 425 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: you're wrong, but you end up being right. So it's 426 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: not just a one way thing. But one of the 427 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: benefits of being absolutely fine, being able to embrace your 428 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: mistakes or embrace the things that you get wrong or 429 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: believe that the beliefs that are flawed, is that it 430 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: opens a door for you that is closed for others. 431 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: And that door is the ability to unlearn and relearn. See, 432 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: when you believe something that's wrong today and you believe 433 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: it for the next ten years, it's still it's wrong day. 434 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how much you tell yourself it's right. 435 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: And if you keep telling yourself that flawed ideology or 436 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: that thing that's wrong, if you keep telling yourself that's right, 437 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: you are now unteachable. You are also very hard for 438 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: people to warm to because you are absolutely unapproachable unless 439 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm living in the same echo chamber as you. You're 440 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: now in the middle of confirmation bias, and I think 441 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking as I go, so excuse me. I'm looking 442 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: out the window, eyes raised to the bamboo thinking. But 443 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I think also like having set beliefs. Do I have 444 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: set beliefs? I absolutely do. I have some. Really, I 445 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: have some set beliefs that I think I'm right about, 446 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know I'm right. I think I'm right, 447 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: but I know i'm right. I'm sorry, I don't know 448 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm right. So I'm okay with that though, because that's human. 449 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: And I'm also very comfortable to have friends who don't 450 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: share my beliefs and who may even think with some 451 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: things the opposite of what I think. Now, as long 452 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: as they are what I consider to be good people, 453 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: then they don't have to agree with me. They don't 454 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: need to align with me. And in fact, if all 455 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: of my friends have to think like me and believe 456 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: like me, and agree with me and support me and 457 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: align with me, then they're not friends. They're fellow cult 458 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: members living in my thought cult, living in the Craig cult. 459 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: So you're going to get stuff wrong. I'm going to 460 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: get stuff wrong. Remember that sentence that I started with 461 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: at the top of the show. It was, this is 462 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: what I believe, but I could be wrong. And if 463 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: you open your eyes and you take a look at 464 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world right now, whether it's 465 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: in the political space, the religious space, the how do 466 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: I get the best body space, the nutrition space, all 467 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: the fucking the myriad of experts selling a myriad of 468 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: ideas and programs, generally with self interest underneath it all. 469 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: We know that we know that they're all getting it 470 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: wrong at some stage, just like you and me. So 471 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: let's not hold on too tightly to those beliefs. See 472 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: you next time.