1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On Skye Leeds, Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: up tonight, Australia's relationship with Israel. I'm the furthest strain 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: after Penny Wong's ill advised commentary on the conflict with Iran, 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: the war's impact on oil prices already being felt. Professor 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Ian Plymer will weigh in on that issue, and Army 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Horowitz will join me with the latest from the US, 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: including the democracy denying no King's protests, and later in 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: the hour we'll have the latest celebrity and royal news, 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: including the famous singer who took a stand against the 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: anti Trump protesters and left. He's losing. It is a 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: little extra unhinged today thanks to the likes of Hollywood 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: clown Mark Ruffalo. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Lads Putin and Nat Yahoo and King Jong on of 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: the world. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: But first, Australia's relationship with Israel has deteriorated further after 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Foreign Mister Penniwong advised Israel to de escalate. Here she 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: is on the ABC. 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: We urge de escalation, we urge restraint, we urge dialogue 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: and diplomacy. What we have to do now is to 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 4: de escalate and exercise restraint, and we have to return 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: to dialogue now. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: In the ours following that statement, while not naming Pennywong specifically, 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Israel's ambassador to Australia issued a statement of his own, 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: rubbishing cause for dialogue, Ammaymon wrote, History has shown what 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: happens when the world ignores regimes that preach hatred, promise annihilation, 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: and are left to build the means to carry it out. 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: Iran isn't hiding its intent, it declares it, and it's 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: building the weapons to fulfill it. He added, Yet some 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: still urge diplomacy as if words can stop warheads. We 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: have a duty to act to protect our people. Joining 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: me now for more on this. As senior fellow and 33 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: chief Economists of the Institute of Public Affairs, Adam Criight 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: and Adam, I don't understand why Penny Wong feels the 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: need to pour salt into these wounds. We've already got 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: a strained relationship with Israel, we have a strained relationship 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: with America, and we're on the verge of the Prime 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: minister meeting with President Trump. 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean, I think firstly, it's funny. 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 5: I think what Australia urges things cover about politics on 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: the other side of the world. 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I did read someone that she was trying. 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: To get a phone call with the Iranian fram just 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 5: to do I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure he really 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: wants to take that call. 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I. 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 5: Mean I think the well, I can perfectly understand why 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: the Israeli ambassador is quite upset with Australia. I mean, 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 5: you know, we are meant to be close friends with Israel, 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: and you know, you can't really both sides this conflict. 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: I mean, as you pointed out just then, I mean, 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 5: Iran has been saying for decades that it wants to 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 5: destroy Israel completely, and it was very close, as we've 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: you know, as we've heard not just from Israel itself, 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 5: mind you, but from the International Atomic Energy Agency, it 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 5: was very close to getting a nuclear bomb. So you know, 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 5: you put those two facts together and you can completely 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 5: understand why Israel has lashed out right and absolutely, you know, 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: I mean we would have done the same thing. 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I think in similar circumstances any country would. 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: And so I think this language that kind of sees 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: both of the countries equal is just not satisfaction. 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: And our most important ally, the one we've also got 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: a growing strange relationship with America, has been quite clear 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: in standing with Israel in improving of this action. So 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: again we've come out against. It's just a very. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: At the same time, the orchest Review is happening. 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: At the same time as the Orchestra Review on the 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: verge of the Prime Minister meeting with President Trump to 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: talk about tariffs and trade and Aucus, why would you 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: create further angst unnecessarily when you're achieving nothing. No one 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: in Israel, no one in Iran cares what money Wong 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: says exactly. 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: So this is just after we censored those two Israeli 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 5: ministers too, which was complete virtue signaling. I mean, they 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 5: weren't coming here anyway. No, You're putting a travel ban 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: on them. Is completely ridiculous. 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 6: And look, you know. 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio put out a statement condemning the action. I 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: mean to have the Secretary of State condemning Australia's actions again, 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: not a great position for Australia when we need America 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: to assist us, and they've also asked us to increase 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: our defense spending and we've said no, thank you. So 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting to see how this 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: meeting with Donald Trump is going. 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 6: Meeting. 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very short. 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: Apparently on the sidelines, it's not eight minutes of that 89 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 5: eight minutes will be hello and you know, shaking hands, 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 5: et cetera. So I mean, if I was elbow, I'd 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: be quite stressed out about this meeting. But as you say, 92 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 5: the backdrop's not good. 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: No, and there is a lot on the line for 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: the country, Adam. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: has been criticized for its poor efforts in supporting stranded 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: Australians in Israel. Some have labeled defacts communication shambolic after 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: an evacuation email was sent out which contained an incorrect link. Adam, 98 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: It's it's a worrying time for Australians stranded in the 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: region and their families back home. The last thing you 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: need is emails from DFAT with links that don't work. 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: Look, it's one of the largest apartments. 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: I understanding camera, you know when you include all the 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: staff around the world, so you would think that they 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: could get that right. 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's actually surprised me, to be honest, that 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: there were so many strainers there in the first place. 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on with advisories there. 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: I've got friends there. 110 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: You've got friends there who've been in bunkers, and they 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: were there during a pretty volatile, dangerous time. So let's 112 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: hope everything's fine, but let's also hope that they can 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 5: get out quickly this it has been a fiasco. 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Now we will have more on the impact of this 115 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: conflict on energy markets with Professor im Plymer. But Israel's 116 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: now set its sites beyond Iran's nuclear facilities by launching 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: attacks on major gas and oil sites, including some of 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: the largest in the world. Meanwhile, the reports that Israel 119 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: had communicated to Donald Trump a plan to kill Iran's 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: supreme leader, Aotola Ali Komane, which the US President oppose, 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: leading to the plan not being executed. Adam Donald Trump 122 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: does not want the US heavily involved in this conflict. 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: He clearly stands with Israel. He condones what's happening, but 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: he knows his supporters, a sizeable number of them, do 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: not want to America involved in another war. 126 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: No. 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 5: Look, it's a very difficult needle to thread for him 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 5: at the moment, because he certainly does support Israel. 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: That is very clear. 130 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: But as you point out, I would say probably more 131 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: than half of the Trump base are very anti war. 132 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: There's the old Reagan Bush side, but that's probably about 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: a third of the party. 134 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: Now, I would say, yeah, the warhawks power and influence 135 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: is diminishing. 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 5: Well, it's much greater in mainstream media than it is 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 5: amongst the ordinary supporters. 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: They are really anti war, and I can understand why. 139 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: There's been a lot of wars, you know, in the 140 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: last twenty years or so America's been involved in which 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: have not gone well. 142 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: So let's just see what happens. I mean, I think Israel. 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm no military expert, but certainly 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 5: Israel as what they call escalatory dominance. 145 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Basically it's going to win. 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 5: And that's even without the US, I think, because ultimately 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: it's got more missiles, has got more planes, and of 148 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: course it probably has nuclear weapons too, which Iron knows 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: and in a very extreme case, you know, that's a 150 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 5: major threat. 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's going to also be fascinating to see 152 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: whether they stop at Iran not being able to create 153 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: or develop a nuclear weapon, or whether they're going to 154 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: push ahead for regime change, because well. 155 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: That's the best outcome, right, but it has to happen organically, right, 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: the ragime has to collapse right of its owner. 157 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Course, that would be the wonderful outcome. 158 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: And that would have to be led by the Iranian people. 159 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: And on that Elon Musk's Starling satellite internet service is 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: now active in Iran. Elon Musk made that happen after 161 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: the Iranian regime imposed nationwide internet restrictions. Adam hugely important 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: for the Iranian people. You cannot have a revolution, you 163 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: cannot overthrow that regime with internet being cut throughout the country. 164 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: So this is really a way from the Iranian people 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: to stay connected and perhaps have a shot at having 166 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: nationwide protests. But as we have seen in the past, 167 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: the Iranian regime is absolutely brutal in it is brutal 168 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: in clamping down on those protests. Well, it just to 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: see that happen. 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean I hope so I just checked 171 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: before I came on the show. 172 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: But GDP per person has gone by, it has fallen 173 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: by fifty percent there in just ten years in Iran. 174 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: So I mean, how could it be a popular regime, 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: it must be hated. 176 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: I mean, it's a very poor country, and yet it 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 5: should be very rich. I mean it's huge, it's got 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 5: ninety million people, it's filled with resources, it's got beautiful mountains, rivers. 179 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 5: You know, there's no reason why it should be so poor. 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: So let's hope that they can use starlink to coordinate. 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: And just on Elon Musk, I mean, he's a bit 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: of a hero here. Really, he's criticized for this and that, but. 183 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: Looks, you know, he's he's turned on these beans, probably 184 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: at great cost to himself. And who knows, maybe it 185 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 5: will work, maybe it will see the end of the regiame. 186 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Well, what can only hope. So but we have seen 187 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: some footage come out of Iran which is incredible to 188 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: see the Uranian people celebrating the attacks against the regime, 189 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: even though obviously innocent people have died in these attacks. 190 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: They want to see the end of the Muller's rain. 191 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: They've been in power now of what more than forty 192 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: five years. Now, Let's turn our attention to Victoria, a 193 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar fund that was set up by 194 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: the City of Melbourne seven years ago to help East 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: traffic jams when thousands of extra cars pour into Melbourne 196 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: from the new Westgate tunnel. Well, that money has barely 197 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: been spent. And what they have spent spent, Adam, they 198 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: have spent on bike lanes. Yes, not road capacity upgrades 199 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: as we expected, but more bike lanes and nobody uses. 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Just it's pretty outragious. That's a deliction of duty. 201 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: It's one of the fundamental things of state government to 202 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 5: get the right you know, to get public transport working 203 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 5: and effective. 204 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: And also this is a state that has something like 205 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and. 206 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 5: Sixty billion dollars of debt, so the roads should be 207 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 5: paved with gold, not filled with potholes. 208 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: There are a lot of potholes. Anyone who has driven 209 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: in Victoria in recent years would tell you about the 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: condition of our roads. And I think it's that massive 211 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: debt you mentioned that has really put a spanner in 212 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: the works. They can't afford to fix. They're spending a 213 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: fraction of the money they should be on roads. 214 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: And you know, there's a separate story around recently two 215 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: about Victorian roads that they're spending the same amount, the 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 5: same amount of money trying to fix them, but the 217 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 5: amount of roads that are actually being fixed has fallen 218 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 5: by sixty six percent. And that's because construction costs in 219 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 5: the unionized workforce have just gone through the roof. 220 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Totally unacceptable. 221 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 5: I mean even Rod Simmons himself said years ago that 222 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: construction costs in Victoria were roughly thirty percent more than 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: they should be. 224 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: So this is all the feather betting of the union workforce. 225 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, only people who are happy in this state the moment, 226 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: the union, Adam christ and thank you so much for 227 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: your time tonight. Now we've already started to see the 228 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: impact of the Israel Iran war on oil prices. They 229 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: jumped around three percent of the weekend after Israeli drones 230 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: struck the South Pass gas field in southern Iran, one 231 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: of the largest natural gas fields in the world, as 232 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: well as two natural gas processing facilities, according to Iranian 233 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: state media. Meanwhile, Iranian missiles damaged a major oil refinery 234 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: in Haifa. Joining me now is a steam geologist and author, 235 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer in what impact will a prolonged war 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: with Iran have on oil prices and will we feel 237 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: it domestically here? 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 7: We're now producing oil from different places. A lot of 239 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 7: it is coming from fracking in the US. In terms 240 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 7: of gas, it's Qatar, Australia and the US the big 241 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 7: gas producers. Iran's much smaller in terms of oil. 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 8: Well, if the Straights. 243 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 7: Of Whom was a shut, then China doesn't get oil. 244 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 7: Our oil comes from many other places, so it might 245 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 7: push up the price, and the price has been relatively 246 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 7: low for quite a while. It might push it up 247 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 7: to more historical levels. So at this stage we're not 248 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 7: seeing too much of an effect. At this stage, the 249 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 7: gas producers like the US and Australia and Katara will 250 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 7: benefit from it. 251 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: Well, could we be a gas producing superpower? We have 252 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: plenty of the stuff, we don't do the exploration perhaps, 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: but is that an opportunity for Australia to really take 254 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: advantage of those natural resources. 255 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 7: Oh, we could easily be a superpower for guess. The 256 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 7: problem is that we have governments that aren't superpowers. They're 257 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 7: not very smart and in this state Victoria, they have 258 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 7: really stuffed it up. Queensland's a bit better. But we 259 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: need decent government and decent regulations and we could easily 260 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 7: become a guest superpower. It takes time. It takes time. 261 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 7: From getting a tenement, to drilling the wells, to getting 262 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 7: the compression stations, to getting the pipelines. That takes time, 263 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 7: and that will be the case in Iran because it 264 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 7: will take a long time to repair the damage. 265 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Victoria in particular, given the perilous financial state we 266 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: have in this state, with the biggest debt in the country, 267 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: we could well do with some gas exports and the 268 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: royalties that would come. Now. I don't know if Chris 269 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: Bowen is a fan of that. Let's check in with 270 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: everyone's favorite energy minister. He's not only a fan of 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: green energy, he also loves promoting free money. Here is 272 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: talking about the government's plan to force taxpayers to cover 273 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: students hextet. 274 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 9: You probably also noticed that your hextet was indexed on 275 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 9: the first a duty. Here's what you need to know. 276 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 10: Don't worry about. 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 9: It because we had a federal election. Parliament w's it 278 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 9: until July. But when parliament's h's our first law that 279 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 9: will pass through Parliament will be to cut hex debt 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 9: by twenty percent. 281 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: He goes on to talk about how those cuts are 282 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: going to be backdated. It's all just magical free money 283 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 2: that just appears happy days well, his market. 284 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 7: In that little clip on social media are young people. 285 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 7: And these young people have got to realize that the 286 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: free money today that they're getting, they'll pay for tomorrow 287 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 7: with spade on it. And it also creates a massive injustice. 288 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 7: Some people have done the right thing, paid back the 289 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 7: hex's debt, worked the guts out to do that, and 290 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, others who don't do that 291 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 7: are getting free money. So it's blatantly unfair. It's going 292 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 7: to come and bite people because people who are young 293 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 7: love the free money idea. Who pays, they'll ultimately pay. 294 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: And this is ex straight from the Biden Kamala Harris' playbook. 295 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: This is the sort of nonsense they ran with and 296 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: part of the reason why they lost. But Labor, sadly 297 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: we don't have an opposition that really took it up 298 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: to them at the last election. Now let's talk about 299 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: Twiggy Forests. Billionaire Tiggy Forest. Here's a green energy advocate, 300 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: and he wants taxpayers to fund increased compensation for those 301 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: who live within ten kilometers of wind farms in is 302 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: this a sound proposal? We keep hearing about how unpopular 303 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: these wind farms are how they're devastating regional communities. Is 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: taxpayers money the solution to. 305 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: That, Well, it's not. 306 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 7: And this is an acknowledgment that the wind turbines damage people. 307 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 7: The wind turbines are blight on the horizon, the wind 308 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 7: turbines pollute the ground. It will be far better to 309 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 7: actually have a reliable energy system, which we once had 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 7: and it was cheap, and that was cole. You can't 311 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 7: guarantee the wind's going to blow all the time. We 312 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 7: have these wind roughts and you just don't get energy. 313 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: So it's not the sort of energy we need for 314 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 7: an industrial power. We need energy density, which you get 315 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 7: from uranium, you get it from coal, you get it 316 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: from oil, and we need to have a twenty four 317 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 7: to seven and we need a huge amount of energy 318 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: if we're going to foster AI centers, if we're going 319 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 7: to have data centers, we need much more energy than 320 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 7: we've got now. 321 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: And before you go, also on two years, join the 322 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: likes of Blake Lively, Demi Moore, Serena Williams, former gymnast 323 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Simone Biles. They're all on Times one hundred most Influential 324 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: People list. I didn't realize he'd made the list in 325 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: he's the only Australian to make the cut, and the 326 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: magazine claims that's because of his determination to show cutting 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: emissions and profits can go hand in hand. Andrew is 328 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: the kind of pioneering business leader the world needs today. 329 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 11: Is that right? 330 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: Can cutting emissions and profit go hand in hand with 331 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: that taxpayer money? I'm just asking, I'm not. 332 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 6: Talking about asking for a friend. 333 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: Yes, of course not. 334 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 7: He is getting this recognition because he's pushing his high 335 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 7: public profile with crazy schemes that have been shown to 336 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 7: be an economic like green hydrogen, green steel. Now he's 337 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 7: in the wind and basically this is not creating cheap 338 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 7: energy for the community. This is attracting taxpayers money from 339 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 7: a compliant government and charging people a huge amount for 340 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 7: the energy and he would be the beneficiary. So he's 341 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: been very successful at demonstrating what systems don't work and 342 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 7: maybe he should get credit for that. 343 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: Well, he's made the list. I'm sure he'd be invited 344 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: to lots of ritzy parties with who was on that list, 345 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: Blake Lively. She's not exactly had a great year, Blake 346 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: not very Lively either, Professor Implyman, thanks for your time, 347 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: Thank you still to Karma. Lefties losing it Plus the 348 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: latest from the US including the democracy denying No King's protests. 349 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: Army Horowitz has the details. You're watching the Reader Panny Show, 350 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: and it's time for lefties losing it. Let's start with 351 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: democrats being democracy denying insurrectionists. Fancy having no King's rallies. 352 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: You don't have a king. You have a duly elected 353 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: president who won the election in a landslide against the 354 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: candidate you undemocratically installed. Remember Kamala and that sham process. 355 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: We certainly do. And there were plenty of celebrity idiots 356 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: at these rallies, including the dangerously stupid Mark Ruffalo. 357 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: Lakes of Putin and Nat Yahoo, and King Jung On. 358 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 6: Of the world. 359 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: Also at the rally worthy likes of Susan Sarandon, Julie 360 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: Louis Dreyfus, Glenn Close, and the funniest man on the planet, 361 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel. Sadly, Eva Longoria couldn't be there, but she 362 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: recorded this message earlier. 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 12: Every time I try to record a message, I just 364 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 12: start crying and then I don't want it to be 365 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 12: about me and my emotions about it. But it's just 366 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 12: so inhuman. 367 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 11: Hard to watch. 368 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: It's hard. 369 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 12: It's hard to witness from afar. I can't imagine what 370 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 12: it's like to be in Los Angeles right now. I 371 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 12: can't believe it's happening in Austin, Texas. I can't believe 372 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 12: it's happening all over the country. The commons and people's 373 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 12: reactions to it is really surprising to me because it 374 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 12: is Unamerican. 375 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: She's shocked by people's reactions. These people really do exist 376 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: in a parallel universe. The deportation program, as we discussed 377 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: at link last week, is enormously popular. Trump campaigned on it, 378 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: he won on it, he has a mandate, and the 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: a group who have swung most strongly in support of 380 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: his tough immigration policies are immigrants themselves legal ones. But 381 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: the question has to be asked, what is it with 382 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: Democrats and violence? They cannot even hold a dumb democracy 383 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: denying rally without turning on each other. Let's check what 384 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: happened in Salt Lake City, Utah. Oh my god, that's 385 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: a gun. That's a gun. 386 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 11: Come on, come on, get out, get over here. Yay, 387 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 11: come here. 388 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: According to police, a man who was believed to be 389 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: part of a peacekeeping team for the No King's protest 390 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: shot at another person at that rally, Toro Gamboa, who 391 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: was brandishing a rifle for some reason, and this No 392 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: King's peacekeeping team member managed to strike both the riflemen 393 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: and an innocent by stander, who tragically later died at hospital. 394 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: Now Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivy has no time for 395 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: lawless writers, those incapable of holding a peaceful protest. Here 396 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: he tells them precisely what will happen if they tried 397 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: that sort of crap in Florida. 398 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 13: If you resist loft lorders, you're going to jail. Let 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 13: me be very clear about that. If you block an 400 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 13: intersection or a roadway in Brevard County, you are going 401 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 13: to jail. If you flee arrest, you're going to go 402 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 13: to jail tired, because we are going to run you 403 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 13: down and put you in jail. If you try to 404 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 13: mob rule a car in Brevard County gathering around it 405 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 13: refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you're 406 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 13: most likely going to get run over and dragged across 407 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 13: the street. If you spit on us, you're going to 408 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 13: the hospital and in jail. If you hit one of us. 409 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 13: You're going to the hospital and jail and most likely 410 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 13: get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs that 411 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 13: we have here. If throw a brick, a firebomb, or 412 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 13: pointed gun at one of our deputies, we will be 413 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 13: notifying your family where to collect your remains at because 414 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 13: we will kill you graveyard dead. We're not going to play. 415 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 13: This has got to stop. 416 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: Got to love him, But can we really be shocked 417 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: by the way Democrat supporters are behaving when this is 418 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: an example of their representatives. Watch the behavior here of 419 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: Senator Alex Padilla who try to gate crash Homeland Secretary 420 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Christi Nomes press conference. 421 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 6: I'm Senator Alex. 422 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 8: I have questions for the secretary because the fact of 423 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 8: the matter is half a dozen violent criminals that you're 424 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 8: rotating on. 425 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 14: Your agents have added, yes, that's a senator unhinged andndticks 426 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 14: there isn't. 427 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: It missed around and he found out. 428 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 6: Going right behind my back, all right. 429 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 10: Cool hand lakeclatk leakeclatt. 430 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: Other hand, turnin other end, and the Democrats and their 431 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: media lapdogs acted like he was the victim. This was 432 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: a sign of a dictatorship that a senator would be 433 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: crash tackled. They gave this clown a platform to spew 434 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: this nonsense. Here is on MSNBC. 435 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 6: Democrats say that Secretary Nome should resign. 436 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: Is that where you are? 437 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 8: Look, that's that's maybe not my focus right now, but 438 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 8: I do think there's some serious questions. How does the 439 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 8: Cabinet secretary not know the center from California when she 440 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 8: steps foot into Los Angeles? She came through the Center 441 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 8: for Confirmation at one point, And certainly, how does the 442 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 8: Secretary of Homeland Security not know how to de escalate 443 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 8: a situation? It's because you can't or because they don't 444 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 8: want to. 445 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: Even the Base four wasn't safe from these activists. We 446 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: had this bit of tone deaf activism at Dodger Stadium 447 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: on the weekend. Here is singer Vanessa Hernandez known as 448 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: Mezsa No. I've never heard of her either anyway. Here 449 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: she is being told to sing the national anthem in English, obviously, 450 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: but instead she sang it, screeched it really in Spanish 451 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: and then she cried about it. 452 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 10: We already today. 453 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 11: Today out of old days. I could not. 454 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 15: I'm sorry, yeah, I just could not believe when she 455 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 15: walked in and told me no, but I just felt 456 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 15: like I needed to do it. 457 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: But imy head there hero. I wonder if she's worked 458 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: out why Mexicans speak Spanish. Couldn't it be because they 459 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: were conquered, Nezza colonized by Spain. She's singing the language 460 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: of the colonizers, but she wants you to know she's 461 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: very proud. 462 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 15: I'm proud of myself for doing that today because my 463 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 15: parents are immigrants and they've been citizens like my whole 464 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 15: life at this point. They got documented really early, but. 465 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 11: I just can't imagine. 466 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 15: Them being ripped away from me, even at this age, 467 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 15: like lit alone, like a little little kid, Like, what 468 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 15: are we doing? 469 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: So your parents are legal migrants, and no parent is 470 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: ripped away from their kid. The kids go back with 471 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: them to the parents' home country. What we're doing, you asked. 472 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 2: We're enforcing the law. That's what's happening in America, you know, 473 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: like Obama did when he deported a record number of 474 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, more than two and a half million, earning 475 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: himself the nickname the Deporter in Chief? Have we forgotten 476 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: about that? And though the protesters claim this is about 477 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: no kings, it's about due process. What they really want 478 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: to do is overturn the entire system democracy, capitalism. They 479 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: want to burn it all down. Here is Army Horowitz 480 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: undercover in a kafir, and it gets the protest is 481 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: to say the quite bit out loud. 482 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 6: Has it more about due process? We're more about overturning 483 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 6: the system, returning the system for sure. 484 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it has to overturn. 485 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 10: The system, overturn American system. 486 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 6: Do we want to replace it with what? 487 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: I don't do? 488 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 11: We need the thing that's the thing. 489 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 13: This might this might turn. 490 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 14: Into something else. 491 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 15: Those thirteen how many countries are being. 492 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 10: Banned from traveling, they might have something as well beyond 493 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 10: this too. 494 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 6: I mean maybe we do we can make the system, yeah, 495 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 6: man or Afghanistan, that might work better. Do you condemn 496 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 6: the violence? Never do? 497 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: I can damn violence. 498 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 6: I don't think damn people for finding what they believe is. 499 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 14: Right in order to get a plenty file. 500 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: Sometimes asking the violence, do you really condemn the violence 501 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 6: or do you understand the. 502 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 8: Sound up against the bully that's sometimes gonna need violence. 503 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 11: So we need. 504 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 6: Violence because we're going to continue by the hand. 505 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: Now you think the fund feeds us? Is this just 506 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: the beginning. Is it just the beginning you can? 507 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 6: Can you condemn the violence or do you understand it? 508 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 11: I understand it. 509 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 16: We need to break sit down before we can read 510 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 16: old burn it down. 511 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: Joining me now is filmmaker and jealous army Heroit's army. 512 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: Were you cherry picking there or was that the majority 513 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: opinion amongst the processes you spoke to? 514 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? So generally the way I work, I let you 515 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 6: lift the kimoto a little bit, let you on the process. Look, 516 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: when I do a video, what you see is the 517 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 6: majority view who I speak with. Sure there might be 518 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: dissenters who think differently, but if they're the If they're 519 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 6: not the majority of voice, the video doesn't go out 520 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 6: or I make the video to reflect that. So generally 521 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 6: my videos with the majority voice. This video RITO is different. 522 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: This was every single person. In fact, I had it 523 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 6: at Dendim and then the video slanning that I spoke 524 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 6: with over thirty people over the course of a number 525 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 6: of hours, and not a single person deviated from the 526 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 6: views you just heard. You know, I also shot another 527 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 6: segment I had and put the video, but I also 528 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: asked them, are we on stolen land or should we 529 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 6: give this this land. This land we're talking about it 530 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: is California, Arizona, New Mexico. Should give it back to Mexico. 531 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: They all said yes, or they said give it back 532 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 6: to the natives. Look, let's be clear about something. These 533 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 6: people are not stupid. I know it's an easy tag 534 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 6: to put on. People say, Oh, they're just fools, they're 535 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 6: useful idiots. No, they know exactly what they're doing. 536 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: You know. 537 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: It always got me upset during the Palestine and Prohamas 538 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 6: protests when people said, oh, they're just fools, they don't 539 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: know what they're doing. I'm sorry you take the You 540 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 6: were hollowing out the power of their intent by saying 541 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 6: that they know exactly what they were doing. Then they 542 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: were calling for the genocide of the Jewish people, the 543 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 6: destruction of the state of Viserl They knew exactly what 544 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: from the river to the sea meant. They may not 545 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 6: have known which river would see as a geography, lessel 546 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 6: has nothing to do with the reality of how they felt. 547 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 6: Same thing with this, They're not stupid. They know exactly 548 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 6: what they're doing. The entire time Rita, there was an 549 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 6: undercurrent of violence right The violence broke out night after 550 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 6: night in Los Angeles, and you can feel it even 551 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: the daytime. But if you said the wrong thing or 552 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 6: they thought you were the wrong person, they would take 553 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: you down. I was standing there when somebody said I 554 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 6: love America and took out an American flag, and they 555 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: beat him, just like they beat me in the in 556 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: the campus at CuNi, right, I took out the American flag. 557 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 6: The same thing happened here. It's the same people were 558 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 6: in Kafia's there. That's purpose, there's a there's there's an 559 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: interconnection and the intersectionality between these people and the program 560 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: mass voters. This is where we're at in this country 561 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: where they want destruction. The same crowd, Yes, no question 562 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 6: about it. 563 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 2: It's the same crowd. I mean they they are the 564 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: same anti American, anti Western civilization crowd. Whether it's BLM riots, 565 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: whether it's pro har Mass, whether it's crazy environmentalists, or 566 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: in this case there's anti Trump, anti Ice, they're the 567 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: same crowd. And what's worrying there, as you showed in 568 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: the video, was that I have no issues with violence. 569 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Not only do they tolerate violence, they think it is 570 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: a sound method to achieve their. 571 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 6: Goals, absolutely, no question about it. And by the way 572 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 6: and they yeah, they and we saw it not that 573 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 6: for night, you know in La all the BLM riots. 574 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: Now I was also the King's protest and No King's 575 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: protest that in New York, and they didn't. Look you 576 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: heard you heard everyone whispering and talking and saying. You 577 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 6: can hear them say it, Look, no violence, let's not 578 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 6: create violence, even though that was where that's where their 579 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 6: intention was going. But they put it out there because 580 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 6: they know that it's an issue for the narrative if 581 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 6: they were violent, and I asked them, people in the 582 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 6: No Kings put the same questions. And while it wasn't 583 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 6: as it wasn't as across the board as it was 584 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 6: in Los Angeles, I would say it's about fifty percent 585 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 6: of people I asked, same questions, fifty seven people the 586 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 6: No King's protests felt the same way. They defended violence. 587 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: They said this is stolen land. They said, this is 588 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: not about due process, about correct destroying the system. So look, 589 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 6: there is this is the Wada. This is the left unmasked, 590 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 6: straight up, pure and something. It is. 591 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: It is and you only have to wear a kathia 592 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: and welcome amongst them, and they will sail those quiet 593 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: bits out lad the things that aren't say on the 594 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: sound bites, and because I know the violence is counterproductive 595 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: as far as winning public support. They're not stupid, but 596 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: they're more than ready to act violently. And let's have 597 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: a look here at CBS. They've copying some criticism for 598 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: promoting the rally, promoting it and even promoting merchandise for 599 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: the rally. Look at this No King's Day merch for 600 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: sale on Amazon, Timu and other e commercial I mean, 601 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: have they given up any pretense of being in these 602 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: news organization army. 603 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not CBS, it's all of them, right, I mean, 604 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 6: all of them are simply at this point they're just 605 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 6: pushing a narrative. They're just they're just a the polemic. 606 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 6: It's polemic. It's not news, it's not reporting. Look, Rita, 607 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 6: I was at the protest and I saw in the 608 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 6: LA protests, and I saw them asking questions, and in 609 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 6: a couple of cases the same people that I spoke with, 610 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: And they're asking the most anodyne questions possible. Right, they 611 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 6: didn't get they didn't cut to the heart of the 612 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 6: matter of why you're here. They could have asked same 613 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 6: questions I did. It's obvious the night before there was 614 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 6: a tremendous amount of violence. They didn't ask them anything 615 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 6: about the violence, whether or not you supported them. This is 616 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: how the media, mainstream media works. They are pushing narratives. 617 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 6: They are not trying to report on actual news on 618 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 6: what's happening, and frankly reminded me of the of the 619 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 6: BLM riots the same thing. I asked the BLM riders 620 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 6: the same type of questions about America, the heart of 621 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 6: how they believed what they believed in, and then saw 622 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: CNN and NBC and CBS and ABC asked ridiculously questions 623 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: that didn't get to the heart of anything. I saw TWEETA. 624 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 6: I was at if you remember the burning down of 625 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 6: the federal building in Portland, and I remember that all 626 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 6: these camera crews, their cameras were down when these BLM 627 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 6: rioters were trying to burn the building down, and then 628 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 6: the cameras went up when when the federal officers came 629 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 6: out and threw out tear gas as if they were 630 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: doing it unprovoked. This is the business of the media 631 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 6: organizations today. 632 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: Reader, Well, that's why trust in the media in the 633 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: US is at record lowers. I think It's like something 634 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: in one in ten Republicans as any trust in the 635 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: mainstream media. I mean, Donald Trump is facing, some would say, 636 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: an impossible balancing act, living up to the America First agenda, 637 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: the no Wars agenda, and America's role in the Israel 638 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: Iran conflict. Clearly, the Trump administration wants to demoralize the 639 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: Iranian regime and ensure they don't get their hands on 640 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. But how far do they go to make 641 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: that happen. Here's what Secretary of State Marco Arubio said 642 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: after Israel took action against Iran. He said, Israel took 643 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes 644 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: against Iran, and our top priority is protecting American forces 645 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: in the region. Israel advised us that they believe this 646 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: action was necessary for its self defense. President Trump and 647 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: the administration have taken all necessary steps to protect our 648 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: forces and remain in close contact with our regional partners. 649 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: Let me be clear, Iran should not target US interests 650 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: or personnel army. This is very difficult for the Trump administration. 651 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: How can Donald Trump manage the expectations of the no 652 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: war members of the base, which are not insignificant in number. 653 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's a very difficult situation. And frankly, look, 654 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: we've talked about it before and it's doubly true now. 655 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 6: I think the Iran the Iran straight kind of highlighted 656 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 6: the discrepancy and the split in the Republican Party between 657 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: traditional Republicans and isolations Republicans. And I want to point 658 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 6: out one thing first for I continue on down that road, 659 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 6: is that when Israel was hit by the by ballistic 660 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 6: missile after ballistic by hundreds of blistic missiles that slammed 661 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: into Israel, killing Israelis, damaging buildings, the the Iran deal, 662 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 6: which which is what Trump said he wanted to back 663 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 6: out of it, he didn't fact back out of it 664 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 6: his first administration, and when Honor, I'm saying we will 665 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 6: never go back to that, Well, the one of the 666 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 6: reasons why we hated that that that and while why 667 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: that agreement was was was horrible, was that they allowed 668 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 6: Iran to continue to build and to develop ballistic missiles. 669 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 6: And now you see the results today as these things 670 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 6: are slamming into Israel, killing israelis. I just want to 671 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 6: point that out, okay, And why we let why Trump 672 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 6: took us out of that deal. 673 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 674 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 6: But going back to the split, No, it's a significant issue. 675 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 6: You can see look jd Vance as someone who is 676 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 6: who is aligned with the more isolation of his view. 677 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 6: He said something really interesting in the Kennedy Center not 678 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 6: not not long before the attack on Iran when he said, 679 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 6: I'm not convinced that Ron wants to build a nuclear weapon. 680 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 6: I mean, what is he talking about. I know Trump 681 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 6: didn't believe that. Trump was firmly in the camp of 682 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 6: they are trying to get it, and we will stop 683 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 6: the no matter what it takes, including allowing us or 684 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 6: to do this. He knew Israel went to him and 685 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 6: talked to him before the attack. He made that very clear, 686 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 6: and Israel made that clear, and he gave him the 687 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 6: green light as he understood that the talks with the 688 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 6: Iran that he was conducting, we're going nowhere. But when 689 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 6: Jenny Van says I don't know if they want it, it 690 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: reminds me Luida have told the story before. It reminds 691 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 6: me of when I met with the with the with 692 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 6: the Obama negotiators of the Iran deal and I asked 693 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 6: them the same question. And we're talking about Iran and 694 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 6: nuclear weapons. They said to me, how do you know 695 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 6: they want to build nuclear weapons? We're experts that we 696 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 6: don't know. It's alarming to me that he used the 697 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: same language as them. But look, Trump is firmly in 698 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 6: the camp we have to stop Iran, and I'm glad 699 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 6: that he did. I think the world is better off 700 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 6: for it. 701 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: Frankly, well, what do you say happening next? Are we 702 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: going to say? These conflicts continue until Iran is tomorilized 703 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: to a point that any ambitions of having nuclear weapons 704 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: is is gone for the time being. All Really, if 705 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: you need to cut off the head of the snake, 706 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: do you need to have regime change? Because the mulazan't 707 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: going to stop after this. They're just going to regroup 708 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: and launch the next campaign. 709 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 6: Look, regime change is, of course, ultimately what everyone wants, right, 710 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 6: remember this. The Iranian people are great. Look I am Iranian, Okay. 711 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 6: The Iranian people are pro Western, A lot of them 712 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 6: are pro Israel. Frankly, they're very practical. They understand how 713 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 6: the world works. The compact between the regime and it's people. 714 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 6: The reason why the regime is still around is because 715 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 6: they made a deal. They said, look, well, don't get 716 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 6: involved in the way we run the country, and we 717 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 6: will allow you to have a great life, a material life, 718 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 6: business and money. Well, they've failed and they've failed you 719 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 6: around people that compact, right, and I think that ultimately 720 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 6: that's what is going to push regime change, and that 721 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 6: should come eternally. We should not be pushing in ourselves, 722 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 6: although we shouldn't be hindering it. Look, if you guys 723 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 6: remember there was a point in time where there was 724 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 6: a possible revolution brewing in Iran and Obama did not 725 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 6: do anything to help the revolutionaries flip the regime. No, 726 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 6: we definitely don't want troops on the ground, no question 727 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 6: about it. But you want to help the people who 728 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 6: are trying to reform that country, and he didn't do it. 729 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 6: So yes, look, although we don't know what's gonna. 730 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: Be do no really that one of his great failures. 731 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: There was army where the Iranian people were putting their 732 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: lives on the line and America was entirely missing in 733 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: that episode. To Ami Horowitz, thank you so much for 734 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 2: your time tonight. 735 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 6: Where's your pleasure. 736 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: Still to come? Which famous singer took a stand against 737 00:39:50,160 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: the anti Trump protest kinzisco Field has the details. Welcome back, 738 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: joining me now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, 739 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: let's start with the No Kings protests held across the 740 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: US over the weekend. A number of celebrities were spotted 741 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: at these protests. We had Mark Ruffalo, Glenn Close, Susan Sarandon, 742 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, Sarah Silverman. It's the usual suspects. I've got 743 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: to say, no surprise is there. 744 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean President Trump thrives off of this. The 745 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 16: irony is that every time a celebrity publicly attacks him, 746 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 16: he uses it as ammunition to reinforce his narrative. They 747 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 16: hate me because I stand up to the elite. And 748 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 16: for his supporters, these protests validate their belief that he's 749 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 16: a threat to the establishment. And I mean, that's exactly 750 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 16: what they they like about him. Plus, their message isn't 751 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 16: reaching New years. Celebrities preaching to their fan base aren't 752 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 16: changing minds. They're reinforcing what there art audience already believes. 753 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 16: Most Trump supporters aren't watching Jimmy Kimmel and he knows it, 754 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 16: so the impact is minimal. If anything, it further entrenches 755 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 16: both sides. 756 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: Now, while all that was happening, and with the now 757 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: Kings protests across the country, there was a singer, Cody Johnson, 758 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: a very famous country singer, who had this to say 759 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: to his audience that there was a lot. 760 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 13: Of protests for one reason or another all across the country. 761 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: People were protesting something. But you know what I have. 762 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 6: I have a microphone at twenty five thousand Americans. 763 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: So today we are going to protest the protest. 764 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: They're going to protest the protest. The crowd seemed to 765 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: like that, Kinsey. 766 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 16: I mean, finally someone with a mic and a message 767 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 16: that actually makes sense to us. Cody Johnson saying he 768 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 16: was protesting the protest is kind of It's the kind 769 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 16: of common sense rebellion. This country music fan it can 770 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 16: get behind, and it's refreshing to hear someone stand up 771 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 16: for unity over outrage and do it with so much humor. 772 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: Now, let's check in with everyone's favorite couple, the Ginger 773 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 2: and the Wingja. They've now lost more staff members, six 774 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: more staff members. I wonder has this got anything to 775 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: do with that weird pregnant twerking video that we salve 776 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: Megan or Harry's ill advised interview with the BBC. What's 777 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 2: behind these latest staff departures. 778 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 16: Surprisingly, the people behind the twerking video are still employed. 779 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 16: I am curious to know if the person that helped 780 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 16: arrange the BBC interview is still employed because, like you said, 781 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 16: that was a wild missfire. 782 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 11: But you know it's bad when. 783 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 16: Working for the world's it's very bad when you're working 784 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 16: for the world's most famous royal escape artists and it's 785 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 16: the one job everyone wants to escape. I think the 786 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 16: constant turnover in Harriet Meghan's camp isn't just a pr issue. 787 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 16: It's a leadership issue. People don't walk away from jobs 788 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 16: they love, they walk away from dysfunction. And like you said, 789 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 16: six more employees, that's a significant number. 790 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 11: That's not a coincidence. We're looking at a. 791 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 16: Pattern that's culture, and culture comes from the top. You 792 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 16: can't build an empire, Megan when you're burning through your architects. 793 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 16: No amount of branded coffee or curated Instagram posts can 794 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 16: mask the instability behind the scenes. 795 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 2: Now to my favorite Royal kinsey by far my favorite, 796 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 2: Well make him king too to morrow if I could. 797 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: Seven year old Prince Louis left Royal fans in stitches 798 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: on the weekend by putting on a bit of a 799 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 2: display on the Buckingham Palace balcony during the tripping of 800 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: the color ceremony, prompting his older brother Prince George to 801 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: try and calm him down. Kinsey seems to have worked 802 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: out there that every time he waved, the crowd cheered 803 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: much louder than they were, so he kept waving until 804 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 2: the future King stepped in. 805 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 11: It was so fun. 806 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 16: I'm right underneath them, That's what I was doing this 807 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 16: weekend in London. 808 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 11: And you're it. 809 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 16: Blew out my ear drums, everyone yelling for little Louis 810 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 16: and absolutely you could tell he just lit up when 811 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 16: the crowd went wild and was going for more. But 812 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 16: on a serious note, the King has cancer. Every day 813 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 16: for him is a courageous fate. The Whales children really 814 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 16: breathe something hopeful and exciting into the future of the monarchy, 815 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 16: and Prince Louis is precious and carefree and always gives 816 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 16: us some to look forward to. 817 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 11: I'm with you. 818 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 16: I absolutely love him. 819 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: Now let's turn to the US and one of Diddy's 820 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: most vocal supporters, Carnie West, showed up at the disgrace 821 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: music Moguls trial in Manhattan, wearing all white, but Kinsey 822 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: only hung around for about half an hour. 823 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 16: What a bizarre PR stunt. 824 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 6: You know. 825 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 16: I truly think that he was disappointed when they wouldn't 826 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 16: let him in the courtroom. As you can imagine, to 827 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 16: get seats inside this courtroom is a nightmare. And so 828 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 16: he was put in one of the overflow rooms, but 829 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 16: not the most popular overflow room. 830 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 11: He was put in like an extra. 831 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 16: Overflow room and almost immediately leaves. To me, it looks 832 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 16: just like another one of his bizarre PR stunts. 833 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 11: And you are who you associate with. 834 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 16: I want nothing to do with either of these two men. 835 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 2: Good point there. Now let's talk about Katie Perry and 836 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: Orlando Bloom. Sources have told People magazine that their relationship 837 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: is on the rocks. It's been breaking down for months, apparently. 838 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: And on the weekend Katie was, in fact you're in 839 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 2: Melbourne at a club called Puff Duff where she was 840 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: celebrating Pride Month with her chosen family. 841 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 10: You guys, I love you. You are my chosen family. 842 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 9: And because you are. 843 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 10: My chosen family, her mother must provide for her children. 844 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 10: So as a provider I would like to open the 845 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 10: bar for one hour. 846 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: She provided for her children. She shouted the whole bar. 847 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: That would have been an expensive exercise. It's a very 848 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: big bar. What is the latest on that relationship. 849 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 16: Yeah, People magazine is not the only one reporting this. 850 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 16: I'm also seeing some exclusives in page six as well. 851 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 17: They say that, you know, the Katie Pale, Katy Perry's 852 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 17: professional failures have really created some discomfort for her and 853 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 17: some soul searching, and that there's a disintegration happening between 854 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 17: these two because she has just had a really hard 855 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 17: time processing the album Bombing, the criticism that's come her 856 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 17: way about working with doctor Luke, and the criticism that 857 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 17: we've seen throughout this tour kind of just like. 858 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 11: Well, I'll just say the dance moves. I'll just say 859 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 11: the dance moves. 860 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 16: But yeah, they've say that that all of those issues 861 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 16: have really resulted in some trouble at home. 862 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 2: Well, she has been mocked mercilessly in the last twelve months. 863 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: Most of it is self inflicted, You've got to say. 864 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the choreography for her latest tour is just awful. 865 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 2: There's the whole astronaut thing where she was just made 866 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 2: the most absurd, hyperbolic statements. She opened herself up to mockery. 867 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, what else could you do but mock that? 868 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: So I don't know why she'd be blaming Orlando for 869 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: those sort of failures. But yeah, here we are. I've 870 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: only got ten seconds. Arla Fisher, Sasha Baron Cohen. They've 871 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 2: finalized their divorce. Is it amicable? 872 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 11: It does seem amicable. 873 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 16: And I'm surprised that he's kept out of trouble, by 874 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 16: the way, watch the space, because he was in a 875 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 16: lot of trouble this time last year. 876 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 2: Oh Kinsey Schofield, thank you for your time, and that's 877 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: all the time I have. Up next, it's news Night, 878 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 2: Good night,