WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 19 September 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.920 This is the US Report with James Morrow. Good evening 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.920 and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.000 War on Antifa. It's been a long time coming, but 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:21.080 now Donald Trump has a new terror target in his sights. Plus, blimey, 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.439 Donald and Malania takes the UK by storm. We'll see 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.280 how he was received. And what are they teaching kids 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.440 in schools? Well, apparently that political assassinations are a okay 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.440 by the times of home schooling. Hey, but first, the 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:43.040 censorious cancel culture left the same tribe of people who's 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.599 spent the last decade or more telling us that words 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.760 are violence, that feelings are more important than reason, and 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.840 that the right should be censored for all their hateful 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:00.000 hate speech have suddenly become dyed in the wool free 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:08.039 beach First Amendment die hards. Why well, because late night Comedian, Yeah, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.800 I know, but that's the official title. Late Night Comedian 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:16.160 Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled from the airy airwaves over 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:22.000 a joke, or an attempted joke about Charlie Kirk. Have 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.720 a look at. Hold on to your sides here, because 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.319 you might split them from laughing. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.720 He hit some new lows over the weekend with the 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.639 Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.120 Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.480 do everything they can to score political points from it. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.840 Well, there was more to his routine. But this is 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.240 the bit I really wanted to show you, because it 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.440 is not just a bad joke, but it is a lie, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.480 a lie about which I'll have a lot more to 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.080 say a bit later on in the program. But there 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.920 is a lot to unpack here beyond the stupidity of 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.360 claiming that Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter was Maga, and it 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.720 goes to the heart of questions about free speech, government overreach, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:10.000 and political sensitivities. Now, on one level, and I say 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.800 this as a near absolutist on free speech, I get 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.200 why people are concerned about broadcasters seeming to tow the 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.960 line to the Trump administration or really any administration. And 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.280 I can see why people think Kimble's bosses might have 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.680 read the room politically and given Jimmy the flick. After all, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.399 speaking about Kibble's routine, the head of the FCC, Brendan Carr, 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.280 He's the guy who regulates the airwaves in the US 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.959 said that quote, this is a very very serious issue 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.160 right now for Disney, the parent company of Kibble's broadcaster. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.040 We can do this the easy way or the hard way, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.839 he said, So just to take him at his word there, well, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.720 there was a clear implication that there was a broadcast 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.640 license on the line, and critics have left upon this 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:07.120 as proof that Kimmel's suspension was simply political. But you 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.400 know what, I say, not so fast, because I am 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.000 old enough to remember all the far more direct censorship 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.720 the Democrats and the left have engaged in, like that 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:24.120 time CIA contractors colluded with the Biden administration to block 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:28.000 the Hunter Biden laptop story, arguably interfering in the twenty 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.160 twenty election, or when the Biden administration had a literal 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:36.400 hotline into Facebook and the social media giants where they 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.720 could call up and get any posts they did not 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.840 like taken down. And of course, who can forget when 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.080 Jack Dorsey, the head of Twitter before Elon Musk Talk 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:51.040 took over, literally banned the president's candidate, Donald Trump because 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:56.800 he didn't want him to have the reach. So spare me, please, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.400 everyone who's now complaining about Jimmy Kimble losing his gig. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.200 I'm sorry, but you know what, You set the rules 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:11.160 and now you've got to live with them. This idea 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.160 that Kibble has somebody had his First Amendment rights violated 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.400 is when you dig further, really pretty laughable. Almost as 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.560 laughable as the left, which used to celebrate when people 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.919 on the right lost their jobs, and now they're suddenly 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.200 crying victim. I mean, back in twenty twenty three, the 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.080 left was cheering over a book called The Case for 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:41.400 Cancel Culture, saying it was good for democracy. In twenty 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.080 twenty two, Squad member Ilhan Omar was tweeting that just 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.359 because you had freedom of speech did not mean you 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.719 were insulated from the consequences of said speech. Your opinions 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.440 have consequences like everything else in life, she said, speaking 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.760 of Squad members, what do you think Alexandria Okazi Cortes 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.960 had to say when Tucker Carlson lost his gig at 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:05.680 Fox News? 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.200 Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.320 Couldn't have happened to a better guy. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.839 And while we're on the subject, here's Jimmy Kibble himself 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.880 in twenty twenty three on that very same subject. And 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.040 listen to the crowd go wild. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.040 Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:26.960 After all these. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.920 Years, they are parting ways, which means he was fired. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.799 I mean, that's really what parting Waites made Tucker. Tucker 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.960 couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a plane 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.440 to Moscow to meet with his manager. But what a shock, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.280 I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.480 This is Well, what's the old saying turn about his 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:52.920 fair play and payback is? I think you know the rest. Now, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.479 there is more to this too, because this decision by 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.760 Kibble's bosses would surely have had a commercial angle to 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.880 it as well. Kimmel's ratings were let's just say, not 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.120 so hot, and in the first quarter of this year alone, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.800 his ratings had doubled by twenty four percent. Now I'm 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.440 no network boss, but all I can imagine is that 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.279 ABC chiefs saw this as a convenient excuse to give 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.919 the flick to a money losing proposition that was, oh yeah, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:29.160 also alienating half of the network's potential audience. But let's 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.760 go back to what Kimmel said, Because, to use the 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:38.839 left's own language, he was spreading misinformation, disinformation if you like, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.039 about the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk and his motivation. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:48.680 Kimmel said that it was a mega guy who was responsible. Now, yes, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.800 it is still before the courts, but all the evidence 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:55.800 suggests that this was a lie. And Kimmel's not the 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.119 only one pushing this line. It's become a massive part 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:05.880 of the information ecosystem, deflection, redirection, and even sympathy for 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:10.200 an alleged killer. Here's an American ABC reporter, Matt Gootman, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.800 describing what came out and You're gonna love this year. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.560 What came out of the press conference where authorities revealed 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:22.440 text messages between Charlie Kirk's alleged killer and his roommate, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:23.800 slash Lover. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.120 Also, it was very touching in a way that I 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.000 think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:34.840 into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:39.640 with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who is transitioning, calling 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:40.760 him my love and I want to. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:41.480 Protect you, my love. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.440 So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.280 not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.040 but was doing it in front of children, which is 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.560 one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.080 the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:02.240 His partner, touching really Montell Williams had something very similar 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.840 to say on CNN check this out, talking about a. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.560 Love torn child, a kid. This is probably his first 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.880 real relationship and somebody was disparaging the person that he loved. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.200 He sat on that building for thirty minutes before he 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.200 took the shot. Why do you wait until the first 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.880 word trance came up? Then he took the shot. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:22.800 You think he heard it? 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.520 He could hear I think he could hear it. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.560 I think he also. I don't believe he was motivated politically. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.680 I think this was motivated emotionally. I think this was 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:38.079 an emotionally stunded person who literally, I want to say 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.120 it this way, just hear me, tried to defend his 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.560 significant other. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.640 No, it wasn't political at all. It was a crime 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.200 of passion, a crime of the heart. Because, of course, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.320 who among us has not avenged an insult against a 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.280 lover by blowing a hole in someone's neck from a 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:03.679 rooftop two hundred yards away. Absolutely romantic. Personally, I'd rather 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.440 say it with flowers or better yet, martiniz and Steak. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:12.080 But that's just me. Yet, this effort to retell the 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.720 story from the left's perspective, to turn it from a 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.960 political murder to a crime of innocence and passion, is 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.760 creating an ecosystem of lies, an ecosystem of lies that 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.880 is starting to bear fruit. Now, despite everything you would 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.280 know about this case, a Yugo of poll found this 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.480 week that of those in America who had an opinion 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:43.280 either way, more people thought a Republican shot Charlie Kirk 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.400 than a Democrat. So you can see why we have 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.880 a problem here. The lies have a consequence, and they 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.720 are showing up in public opinion. But for the final 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.840 word on this, this question of late night hosts and 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.480 comedians being political, let's go I want to play this 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.480 for you here. Let's go to Johnny Carson, once the 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.160 king of late night comedy in America and the absolute 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.840 pioneer of the form. Let's have a look at what 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.240 he thought about the idea of him using his own 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:25.560 comedic platform as a jumping off point to get into politics. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.800 Tell me the last time that Jack Benny Red skeleton. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.720 Uh Benny comedian used his show to do serious issues. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.079 That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that? 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.400 But you're and I do they think that just because 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.400 you have it tonight's show, that you must deal in 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:47.360 serious issues. That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.360 you start that, you start to get that self important 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.920 feeling that what you say has great import and you know, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.319 strangely enough, you could use that show as a form, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.280 you could sway people, and I don't think you should 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.560 as an entertainment. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.960 All right. Thrilled to be joined now by former White 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.000 House Chief of Staff and senior advisor at Bondi Partners, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.600 Mick mulvaney. Mick, we got to talk about this culture 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.480 war that has erupted over Jimmy Kimmel. Let's play a 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.600 little bit more of what he had to say about 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.840 Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump and the reaction to the murder. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.959 But on a human level, you can see how hard 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.360 the President is taking this. 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.680 Don't just have a lot of your friend Charlie Kirk 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.720 as sir, personally, how are you holding up over the 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:32.840 last day and a half third? 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.080 I think very good? And by the way, right there. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:36.199 You see all the trucks. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.360 They just started construction of the new Baurough for the 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:39.920 White House. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.200 This is not how an adult grieves the murder of 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.160 somebody called a friend. This is how a four year 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.160 old morn's a goldfish. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.520 Mick's so funny. I forgot to laugh as the saying goes. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.600 But you know, as I was just saying here, I'm 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.120 a real free speech guy. But when the left makes 0:11:55.160 --> 0:12:00.559 these rules about censoriousness and cancel culture, it's hard not 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.720 to hold them to it. Mick mulvady, your take on 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.200 the Jimmy Kimmel affair. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.200 Yeah, well, the left lacks a lot of credibility here, James, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.320 You're correct. I mean I was wondering where all of 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.840 this concern was about free speech back when Obama's Internal 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.600 Revenue Service was coming down hard on Christian conservative groups 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.680 and other conservative political groups. So, look, I'm sympathetic to 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.800 the arguments about free speech. I'd love to have a 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.200 discussion about free speech. But a lot of folks on 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.080 the left gave up the moral high ground and then 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.480 a long time ago because they were perfectly happy for 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.120 it to happen to us. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.800 Look, I don't think Jimmy Kimmel is funny. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.200 Apparently not a lot of people do because his ratings 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.720 are terrible, But that doesn't make any difference. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.760 He obviously doesn't like the president. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.760 The president said today that ninety seven percent of the 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.000 stuff that's said about President on the show is negative. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.679 That doesn't make any difference. Here's what matters. The law 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.400 in this country is that. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.160 If you were going to use the public airwaves. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.400 Now there's a different thing if you want to go 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.000 out on street corner and talk or do whatever. But 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.199 if you want to use the public airwaves, there are 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.240 laws that apply to that, and one of them is 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.360 you can't make false statements about crimes that would be 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.400 injurious to the public. And I think that's what the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.760 FCC came down here and said, Look, Jimmy Kimmel was 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.920 implying that this guy was a Republican. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:18.800 That's false. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.920 They know it's false, and it's harmful to people because 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.679 they end up thinking that Republican party is somehow responsible 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.680 for this. That's the issue here, whether or not it's negative, 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.800 whether not his ratings are bad. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.800 Yes it's negative, Yes his ratings are bad. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.000 But if you violated the law, then This is not 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.880 censorship in any way, shape or form. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.080 Yeah. And I mean also though, even in those areas 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.480 of American society that aren't regulated by commercial broadcast Codes 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.360 the FCC, these sorts of regulatory bodies, like the Internet, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.160 for example, like comedians. I could give you a long 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.240 list of comedians in the last ten years who were 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.079 cashiered for all sorts of reasons, who were canceled, who 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.160 were driven off of the stage because they said something 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.880 that was a bit too edgy, you know, Shane Gillis, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.880 Roseanne Barr, all sorts of people like that. And so 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.520 this just seems like incredible hypocrisy that they don't want 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.320 their own rules to apply to them. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:12.440 They don't. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.080 Again, they were fine when Roseanne Barr got canceled, Fine, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.040 when everybody I got canceled. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.160 See I got fired from CBS for some of the 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.600 same some of. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.240 The same things we're talking about here, essentially just being 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.760 a Republican and not always being anti Trump. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.360 So yeah, that's why I say they lack credibility. But 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.440 I think there's a difference. James. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.040 Look a lot of Republicans that he said, Look, it 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480 was okay for Disney to fire the Disney the Walt 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.720 Disney Corporation owns ABC, which owns the show, it's okay 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:39.920 for him to fire Kimmel. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.080 That's absolutely right. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.560 It just is if ABC makes the corporate decision our ABC, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.600 not yours, that his what he says does not represent 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.000 their brand. Well, they have the right to fire him, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.360 just like CBS had the right to fire me. I 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.000 didn't like it, and I'm sure Jimmy Kimel doesn't like it. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.640 But it's not illegal. And I want to know where 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.240 all the all the Democrats who are now claiming is 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.760 a free speech violation for Disney to do this when 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.240 I got fired for the same reason. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.720 Well, exactly right, Mick. And I mean, you know, you 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.400 talk about your ABC versus our ABC. I'll bet our 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.680 ABC tries to give Jimmy kimmele a gig. But you 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.480 know this whole idea too, that Donald Trump somehow is 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.880 introducing this fascist, anti free speech kind of you know 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.880 environment so on. Well, I just found this clip from 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.600 Kamala Harris, who could have been the next president, the 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.640 current president of the United States, and not too long 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.480 ago she was calling for censorship, even more censorship of 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:36.480 her own have listened to. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:41.200 This we will hold social media platforms accountable for the 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:46.880 hate infiltrating their platforms because they have a responsibility to 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.880 help fight against this threat to our democracy. And if 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.520 you profit off of hate, if you act as a 0:15:55.600 --> 0:16:02.080 megaphone for misinformation or cyber war, if you don't police 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:06.960 your platforms, we are going to hold you accountable. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.160 And we all remember the way the Biden administration worked 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.120 with social media companies to censor what people could say. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.640 I mean, the idea that somehow Trump is an outlier 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.000 on this seems pretty laughable. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:19.840 You know what I heard there? 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.840 If you distilled all down was what she said, is this, 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.400 if you traffic and misinformation, we are. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.720 Going to hold you accountable. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.680 That's exactly what just happened to Jimmy Kimmel. So I 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.360 don't know what Kamala Harris is so upset about. Look, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.360 the difference is this. We all know what the difference is. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:36.920 You might as well say it out loud. When she 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.280 says if you traffick and hate, that means if you 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.560 support Republican ideas. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.080 That's what it means. It's code for being Republican. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.720 So that's why I say, Look, I want to have 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.800 a debate about free speech in the country, and if 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.760 this allows us to do it, that's great. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.480 Okay, I'm a huge civil libertarian. I need too, But 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.120 I won't sit and listen. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.760 To Democrats who think that it's okay to do it 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.680 to me but not do it to them. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.320 That you lose credibility in the debate when you have that. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.400 And I'm looking for some Democrats who are defending Republicans 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.680 when they were being canceled, and they're sort of hard 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:10.040 to find. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:10.560 Right now. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.280 Before I let you go, I want to ask you 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.919 too about this big trip to the UK. The President 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.080 first Lady have been in the UK for a state visit, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.080 welcome by the royal family and lots of pomp and 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.520 pageantry at Windsor Castle. Look personally, I think it's pretty 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.040 amazing for a guy who was driving a garbage truck 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.119 just eleven months ago to now be being received in 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.480 Windsor Castle. But seriously, though, a big, big, big state 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.560 banquet here. What do you make of this trip? Why 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.240 has Trump put so much attention? This is a second 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.479 state visit over to the UK nearly as many months. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.960 What is all coming out of this between the US 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.560 and the UK and Keir Starmer and Donald Trump. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.920 I think here Starmer donald Trump get along fine, which 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.639 it just goes to show you, by the way, that 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.760 if Donald Trump doesn't get along with that Anthony Albanezi, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.119 it's not because of Albanese's politics, it's his personality. Trump 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.840 doesn't care about your politics. I mean, he wants to 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.040 do business with people that he likes, and he likes 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.840 Kear Starmer. I think they've just announced here in the 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.800 last couple of hours an initiative, a joint initiate between 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.560 the two countries that on artificial intelligence. I'll be looking 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.280 for more of that in the next coming days what 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.159 actually comes out of this meeting. But one of the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.840 reasons I thought it was so successful is just that 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.639 it's very similar to the US. In Australia, there are 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.440 cultural similarities, there's ties here that it's almost like family. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.520 And for some reason the UK has been able to 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.240 sort of tap into that and the Albaneze government has not, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.640 to its own detriment, and that's a. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.280 Shame, absolutely right McKay. Finally, just one more thing for 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.159 you here. I've noticed this story about the thing that 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.800 they say never happens, yet it seems to keep on happening. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.480 A man in South Texas has been put in a 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.800 police custody accused of running an illegal ballot harvesting scheme. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.560 Now all allegations at this stage, but it involved over 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.639 sixty five voters, and it runs a bit counter the 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.359 narrative that all of these so you know, mail in 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.119 ballots and other sorts of ways to vote rather than 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.320 just going to a polling booth, you know, are all 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.600 perfectly safe. What do you reckon You've been around elections 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:10.200 a fair bit. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:12.960 Yeah. In fact, I harken back. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.359 I think you and I may have talked about this 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.959 a couple of months back when the Minnesota Democrats had 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.520 their primary yes at a convention, and then the next 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.080 day the guy that laws claimed there was a fraudulent 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.040 you know, ballot interference and so forth. 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:30.800 So look when they know it exists. The bottom line 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:31.600 is this is it. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.560 Does happen in this country. 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:35.520 It's not an issue. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.879 I don't think James of people voting three and four times, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.639 I really don't think that happens that often. But ballot 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.560 harvesting is real and it is illegal in most places, 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.640 including Texas. By the way, there are some states where 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.680 it's not illegal. And in some states it wasn't illegal 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.119 during COVID. It was a one off type of situation. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.479 But look, there are thousands of lawyers in this country 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:59.720 who make a living doing nothing but election law. Elections 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.600 have consequences, and elections have complications, and they're never ever 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.000 going to be perfect. We voted, I think you know, 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.800 almost one hundred and fifty million people here in the 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.800 last election. That the election is run mostly by volunteers. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.239 There's always going to be fraud and we're always going 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.320 to be able to do better next time. And I 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.679 hope stories like this convince both sides that we need 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:19.320 to focus on that. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.239 Hey man, Mick mulvaney, thank you so much for your 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.040 time this week, and we'll see you next time. Now 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.679 joining me is John Heinerecher. You know him well as 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.439 well from the Center for the American Experience. Huge news 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.320 week here, John, and I want to talk about something 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.840 that hasn't gotten a huge amount of trouble here, but 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.240 you've written about it on your power Line blog, which 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.679 I urge everyone to go and check out. Because the 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.040 New York Times, or as Donald Trump might say, the 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.600 failing New York Times, is in some hot water with 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:52.480 the President announcing a fifteen billion dollars that's billion with 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.879 a b lawsuit against them. Trump said that he is 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.880 the great honor. He wrote of bringing a fifteen billion 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:03.000 dollar defamation in the line of a lawsuit against The Times. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.160 Tell us about this and his accusations at the Times 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.280 is a virtual mouthpiece for the Democrats. I thought everybody 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:11.919 knew this. 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.520 Well, James. That's true, and most people do know it. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.640 This is actually a very interesting case. The Times has 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.560 smeared Trump thousands of times, but this case is very 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.800 specifically focused. It is focused on a book that was 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.600 written by two New York Times reporters, and he sued 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.919 the Times. He sued Penguin Random House, which published that book, 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.679 and two other people who wrote op eds in The 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.600 Times that repeated some of the representations in that book, 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.679