1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Australia. This is the Wader Panety Show. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, the Liberals dragged kicking and screaming to 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 3: a rational energy policy. The panel will weigh in on 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: that and much more is the renewables grift over. A 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: new report shows that private investment in the sector is stalling. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: I'll speak to Adan Morrison about that shortly. Army Horowitz 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: will have all your US news, including the real story 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: behind the latest Jeffrey Epstein revelations, and later in the 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: hour we'll look at why queer characters have been slashed 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: from TV shows. They will be with Ddie Dunlevy and 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: Left He Is Losing It features this self delighted. 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: Fool because when you don't ever even hear the facts, 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: it's hard to even know that you're wrong. 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Now, we'll have more on the Liberal Party's net zero 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: decision shortly, but first secret documents have exposed an alleged 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: labor plot to stitch up former Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: in its decision to award two point four million dollars 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: to Britney Higgins in twenty twenty two The trove of 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: documents remained hidden from Reynolds until they were uncovered during 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: her defamation case against Higgins, and they reveal how the 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: upp and Easy government maneuvered to award Higgins the massive 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: compensation payout while keeping Reynolds. 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: In the dark. 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: The move ensured Reynolds was unable to defend herself against 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: higgins claims of a political cover up. Linda Reynolds is 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: now taking the Commonwealth Government and its lawyers to court 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: over the controversial settlement. After the judge in her successful 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: defamation case against Higgins found it was entirely reasonable for 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: her to question the process by which the settlement had 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: been achieved and gave her permission to use the documents 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: as evidence. Joining me now for more on this are 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: Sky News contributors Louise Roberts and Caroline de Rosso. Louise, 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: these allegations are damning for the Albanesi government absolutely. 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: I mean, it just looks like a complete stitch up 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: for Linda Reynolds, doesn't it that she was silenced and 37 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: set up? And not only Linda, but also Fiona Brown. 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: We had two senior political women who were hung out 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: to dry. Linda had no opportunity to defend herself for 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: Albanesi government, according to these documents, moved in and took 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: control of her defense and she couldn't even have her 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: say on things that later on were proven to be 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: false of course in court. So damning indictment of how 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 5: we treat senior women in this situation. And also to 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 5: fast track through a two point four men and dollar payment, 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 5: as you say to Britney Higgins, is absolutely appalling. It's 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 5: a very bad look for the Albanese government. 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Caroline Linda Reynolds has been vindicated, but she's paid a 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: really heavy price with her health, with her reputation. 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: And financially as well. 51 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: Though she has won this defamation case, she is out 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: of pocket by an enormous sum. 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: She is reader and obviously I have to disclose for 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 6: particularly the purpose of this, that I'm the State president 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 6: of the lives here in Western Australia, but I also 56 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 6: practice as a litigation lawyer for almost fifteen years and 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 6: this has taken a huge toll. And the thing that 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 6: people often don't understand is just because you win a 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 6: court case doesn't necessarily mean that you get paid or 60 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: you get all your costs covered. 61 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 7: As part of that process. So earlier in the week 62 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 7: there were. 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 6: Bankruptcy proceedings that are going on in the federal court 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 6: at the moment in and around that and that is 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 6: because of the non payment of that judgment from the 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 6: defamation case. And just off the back of what Luise said, 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 6: very uncomfortable to read the allegations that have just that 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 6: have just come to light this week in relation to 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 6: and around the settlement. And you know, there's a lot 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 6: of lawyers who are involved here and ultimately read there's 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 6: a couple of things that you learn very early on 72 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 6: in the piece as a lawyer, and first that you're 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: primarily an officer of the court. And the second thing 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 6: we ask ourselves almost every year when we do our 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 6: ethics CPD update is who is your client and the 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 6: fiduciary duty that you owe to them. So at the moment, 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 6: there's a bunch of allegations here, but I find a 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 6: lot of them very very uncomfortable in that practice and process, 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: or from that practice and process point of view, I 80 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 6: should say, you know, what was the government doing at 81 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 6: the time, but also what were all the lawyers doing 82 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 6: at the time, and were they comfortable within the way 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 6: that this process was happening, so there's some absolutely, some 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 6: stark allegations there. It will be very, very interesting to 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: see how this all plays out. 86 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: Now, after hours of party room debate across two days, 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: the Liberals have ditched net zero, that's net zero by 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: twenty fifty, but they have also remained in Paris. So 89 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: it's a little bit confused if you ask me. The 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 3: party says that its new policy will prioritize making power 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: affordable again while reducing emissions in a responsible way and 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: lifting the moratorium on nuclear energy. Carol, I'll start with you. 93 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: The moderates continue to be an issue. I think this decision, 94 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: to be sort of half pregnant, is to appease those 95 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: moderates by staying in Paris but abandoning net zero. 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Do you see this as a coherent policy position. 97 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 6: Well, my understanding is that the National's position is also 98 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 6: to stay in. 99 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: Paris. 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: I don't think anyone would be accusing anyone in the 101 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 6: National Party of being a moderate. I mean, ultimately, the 102 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: position in the party and there were always going to 103 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: be a variety of views, and people are allowed to 104 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 6: have different views in the Liberal Party, and that's what 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: makes us so different. From labor, so no one was 106 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: ever going to get one hundred percent exactly of what 107 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: they wanted here. So the fact that you know they've 108 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 6: come to this position, and like John Howard said, politics 109 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 6: is the art of the compromise, and I just feel 110 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 6: like everyone has been accommodated to an extent and now 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 6: there's going to be those conversations with the National Party 112 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 6: and ultimately a joint party room. 113 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: So there was always going to be that. 114 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 6: Bit of movement, and you might call it a bit 115 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 6: of friction, but a robust debate never killed anyone in politics. Frankly, 116 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 6: I think we should have more of them. And it'll 117 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 6: be interesting to see how this goes into that joint 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 6: party room because ultimately that's where that position needs to land. 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: They go into copp an almighty backlash they already have 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: so far from the usual suspects, the activists, the media, 121 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: everyone who's advising them to via further left. But the 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: truth is as soon as they embrace net zero, they 123 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: started losing elections in landslides. And this is the only 124 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: rational position to come to, not just politically, but to 125 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: give the people a clear choice at the ballot box, 126 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: to give Australians a real choice when it comes to 127 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: deciding whether they prioritize cost and reliability or emission cuts. 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and don't Australians want affordable power and a reliable grid. 129 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: I mean, and I noticed that was part of the 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: narrative from the Liverpool Party on this, and I do 131 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 5: feel although they seem to have a foot in both 132 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 5: cams or half pregnant, as you say quite correctly, it 133 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: is a bit more of a common sense move and 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 5: I was very relieved to see that because the end 135 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: of the day, we're all paying too much for power 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: and we've got plenty of natural resources, so if they 137 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 5: move more towards that rather than fixated on emissions target, 138 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: I think it's a good thing. 139 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 8: Now. 140 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Victoria Police have released photos of eight people they're seeking 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: in relation to a violent protest in Melbourne's CBD last month, 142 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: which saw bar Left protesters held glass bottles, rotten fruit 143 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: and rocks at police. Drone footage of the CBD clash 144 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: captured mass protesters hurling about a dozen rocks at police 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: from what appeared to be a pre prepared stockpile during 146 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: the October nineteen protests. 147 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: This is just horrendous. 148 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 9: Stuff. 149 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: Caroline officers were left injured, and it was good to 150 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: see police command come out and provide complete clarity on 151 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: precisely which side was behind this violence. They were so 152 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: fed up with it that they weren't going to be diplomatic. 153 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: They were absolutely clear that it was the left wing 154 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: protesters who were behaving in this manner. 155 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: They were and. 156 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: Look, that's probably a really uncomfortable truth for some people 157 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 6: to hear, but sometimes you just need to say those 158 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 6: things in particularly when we're talking about our police and 159 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: their lives potentially being put in danger in this way. 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 6: That is totally unacceptable. There is a right to peaceful 161 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 6: protest in this country. There is nothing peaceful about that 162 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 6: sort of behavior. Very uncomfortable obviously around a lot of 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 6: these protests is being massed. Obviously, well, firstly there are 164 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 6: a bunch of cowards, but it makes it much more 165 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 6: difficult to identify them going forward. 166 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 7: I know that the Victorian government. 167 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 6: Has said or has made overtures about outlawing the wearing 168 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 6: of masks at these sorts of protests, but what we've 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 6: heard in recent days it appears like they're going a 170 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 6: bit soft on that. I think that there is something 171 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 6: that absolutely must be done. Like people who are online 172 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 6: that can't be identified, they engage in behavior which probably 173 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 6: they wouldn't do if they were identifiable. So I think 174 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 6: mars need to go and people need to be accountable 175 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 6: for their behavior. And if you are being violent towards 176 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 6: police at what should otherwise be a peaceful protest, then 177 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 6: the book should absolutely be ditched. 178 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 9: At you. 179 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 7: Now. 180 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: New Monash University study of a young Australians has revealed 181 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: how many young people have lost hope of owning a home. 182 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: This is really quite depressing. At nearly sixty percent say 183 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: they won't be able to buy a house and half 184 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: think that unlikely to have a child. Louise, not having 185 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: a home, not having a family, I can understand why 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: so many youngsters are depressed. 187 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 188 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And isn't the family the foundation of a great, 189 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 5: thriving Australian society. You can sort of buy your own 190 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: home and one day you want to meet someone and 191 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 5: have a family with them. And I was really quite 192 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: yes sad when I saw that figure saying half of 193 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: eighteen to twenty four year olds who were surveyed here 194 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: and did the research can't imagine themselves ever having children. 195 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 5: I found that very, very depressing because that's all speaks 196 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: to our prosperity and they're absolute despair that under subsequent governments, 197 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: particularly the current government obviously in Victoria, they feel there's 198 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: a hopeless future ahead for them. And these are young people, 199 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: obviously very talented, worried about workforce, going for jobs, not 200 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: getting any interviews, and they're all despairing. They're only eighteen 201 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 5: to twenty four. We're not talking about people at the 202 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 5: end of their careers. We're talking about young people who 203 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: will form a very significant voter block for political parties 204 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 5: and will send a very strong message that you do 205 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 5: nothing for us, you do nothing for our future prosperity. 206 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is pretty sad to have eighteen to twenty 207 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: four year olds be this jaded, Caroline, And the figures 208 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: are getting worse. In twenty twenty two, around one in 209 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: two young Australians thought that would be financially worse off 210 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: than their parents. This year the figure is seventy nine percent. 211 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: I mean that again is pretty damning and is something 212 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: political parties from both sides need to address. 213 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely they do and as an order of priority, and 214 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 6: imagine thinking that that proportion of our young people who 215 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 6: should be optimistic and energized and engaged and wanting to 216 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 6: take on the world are actually feeling so devoid of hope. Look, 217 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 6: I don't think you've disagree with me, Rita. I think 218 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: that COVID and lockdowns, you know, attributed to that in 219 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 6: a mental health sense. I think a lot of the 220 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 6: government money that washed around at that time has added 221 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: to things like housing prices and whatever. And I think 222 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 6: our political parties are a bit slow to get there 223 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 6: and really understand how deep this. You know, this malaise 224 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: I suppose is within our younger generation, and reader, I 225 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 6: fear it is actually only going to get worse because 226 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 6: as you look at children coming through the education system, 227 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: they just keep getting fed this diet of crisis and 228 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 6: catastrophe and you're privileged, and you're this, and you're that, 229 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 6: and you're whatever. So if you are getting that from 230 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 6: a very very young age, how are you meant to 231 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 6: have an optimistic outlook on life and that you can 232 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: be a great contributor to it when you get to 233 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 6: your late teens in early twenties. 234 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 3: Before you two go, there are growing rumors of a 235 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: plot to our British Prime minister here Starmer, the Labor 236 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: leader's popularity has gone into free for all. These figures 237 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: are incredible. A uguf Pohl says seventy three percent disapprove 238 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: of the job. He's doing this as a man who 239 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: won in a landslide not too long ago. Starmer's allies 240 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: have warned his job might be under immediate threat and 241 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: have singled out Health Secretary Was Streeting as a possible 242 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: challenger Loise. The Brits seem to finally have had enough 243 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: and they've got. 244 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: A clear choice. 245 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: Their system is a little different to ours that don't 246 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: have a proferential system. They've got a first past the 247 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: post system and they are wanting the Trumpelin Nigel Farage 248 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,239 Speaker 3: ahead of Labor and the Tories at this point. 249 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: Yes, isn't that interesting And of course it's not compulsory 250 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: to vote in the UK, so they really need to 251 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: do turn up at the ballot box and actually have 252 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: their say. And this is two weeks before the government's 253 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: about to hand down a significant budget as well, so 254 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: it's the last thing the keystar and the government need. 255 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 5: But for the bridge point of view, as you say, 256 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: they've absolutely fired enough. They've seen knife crime, they've seen 257 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: mobile phone crime, they've seen mass immigration, they've seen all 258 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: the issues with asylum seekers, and they've seen their beautiful country. 259 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: And I lived there for seventeen years and I look 260 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: at England now and I can barely recognize parts of that. 261 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: I barely recognize London because of the crime problem there. 262 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: So I would encourage people to go and vote when 263 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: they can and push the government out because Kids dar 264 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: mclearly is not the prime minister they need. 265 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Louise Robbers. Caroline dei Rosso, thank you so much for 266 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: your time. 267 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Now let's bring in Center for Independent Studies Director of 268 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: Energy Research Aidan Morrison for more on the Liberals net 269 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: zero decision. 270 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Aiden. 271 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: The party has dumped net zero by twenty fifty, but 272 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: it remains committed to Paris. 273 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 10: The Liberal Party I lead will not stand by and 274 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 10: let Australians get crushed by these high power prices. We 275 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 10: will have an energy and emissions policy driven by two 276 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 10: key objectives. 277 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: Affordable, reliable power. 278 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 10: And responsible emissions reductions. And our energy and emissions policies 279 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 10: will use Australian resources for Australian families, So you pay less. 280 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: For your power, Aiden, Can you have that? 281 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: Can you have two objectives that seem to be in 282 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: common fleeked to have cheap, reliable energy but also emission 283 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: cuts or as she puts at, responsible emission cuts. 284 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 11: Look, I guess you can have the two, so long 285 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 11: as you're brutally honest and clear about which one has 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 11: the upper hand, in which one is more important. And 287 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 11: in this case in credits to the Liberal Party, it 288 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 11: seems they have said that price is the priority here. 289 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 11: And as for the Paris Agreement, well, the good thing 290 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 11: about the Paris Agreement is that your specific contributions, they're 291 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 11: called nationally determined contributions, they're up for individual member countries 292 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 11: to set for themselves, so we can actually just dial 293 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 11: them back to something that is really small, even meaningless, 294 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 11: and stay in the Paris So really it's not that 295 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 11: dangerous to remain in Paris. 296 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 9: It's a little bit odd. 297 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 11: It's kind of like going through a messy breakup with 298 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 11: your X and then keeping a photo on the mantelpiece. 299 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 9: For a little bit longer. Not that dangerous, but definitely 300 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 9: a little bit weird. 301 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: It is a little bit weird, and I do like 302 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: that analogy. I think it confuses the messaging because they're 303 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: trying to again appease those smaller liberals, a peace the 304 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: inner city affluent types who are preoccupied with this issue. 305 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: But I don't think they're going. 306 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: To be a piece. 307 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be confused that easily. 308 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: But it confuses selling cheap, reliable energy to the rest 309 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: of the electorate, and I think hopefully they'll slowly realize 310 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: that it's taken them a long time to get to 311 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: this position. We've been telling them for years, well before 312 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 3: the last election. Now, aiden you and your colleagues at 313 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: the Center of Independent Studies released a report into Australia's 314 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: renewables roll out last month, and it showed that it 315 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: does not pass the cost benefit test. Explain to my audience, 316 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: what are the issues and costs that are encountered at 317 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: just thirty percent renewables in the grid, and what's that 318 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: going to look like if it's seventy or eighty percent. 319 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. 320 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 11: The short story is that renewable energy is subject to 321 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 11: something of a honeymoon. A very little bit, a small 322 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 11: amount is line of harmless, not necessarily that helpful, but 323 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 11: doesn't hurt the grid. And that's because you just dial 324 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 11: back whatever other energy source. So be it coal and gas, 325 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 11: they have a bit of flexibility. You just dial that 326 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 11: back a little bit to make room for the wind 327 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 11: when it's windy and the sun when the sun is shining, 328 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 11: and that existing flexibility of the grid it runs out 329 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 11: somewhere around the twenty five thirty percent mark, which is 330 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 11: where we are. And at that point you're stuck with 331 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 11: too much energy at some places and sometimes and still 332 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 11: not enough at other places and other times, and so 333 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 11: you have to start the expensive, difficult business of moving 334 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 11: energy around through space and through time. So you do 335 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 11: that with batteries for storage and pumped hydro, you do 336 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 11: that with major new transmission lines. Moving energy around the clock, 337 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 11: the calendar and the country is the expensive bit. And 338 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 11: about thirty percent is where that really starts to bite it, 339 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 11: and you have to do a lot, which is why 340 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 11: we're seeing so many new transmission projects and battery projects. 341 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 11: But up around eighty percent, the majority of the energy 342 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 11: is actually going to be consumed thousands of kilometers away 343 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 11: or hours after it's actually generated, and that just becomes 344 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 11: extremely expensive. Indeed, so things always get harder from here, 345 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 11: and right now we've already discovered that renewable energy at 346 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 11: the moment is more expensive than the energy system we 347 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 11: had before, which was dominated by stable, steady, reliable thermore generators. 348 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: If it's costing this much a thirty percent, and it's 349 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: going to be a lot worse than forty fifty sixty 350 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: seventy percent, I mean, you would hate to predict what 351 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: the cost is going to be to households, to businesses 352 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: to try to deal with that intermitsion power. And we've 353 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: got to start calling renewables intermitsion power because that's a 354 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: far more. 355 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: Accurate description of what it actually is. 356 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, how much transparency is there in 357 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: the amount of tax payer money that is going into 358 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: renewables that is propping up the sector. What would happen 359 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: without that sort of market intervention, Yeah. 360 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 11: There is no transparency at all. The major previous subsidy 361 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 11: scheme I called the Renewable Energy Target that's about to 362 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 11: phase out in twenty thirty and the replacement scheme is 363 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 11: called the Capacity Investment Scheme. And every subsidy is basically 364 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 11: determined project by project, with the Minister signing off on 365 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 11: a confidential deal that we'll never know about, giving them 366 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 11: basically as much money as they ask for, so I'm 367 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 11: quite confident. I've made the statement before about a billion 368 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 11: dollars for a single wind farm in Victoria, in the 369 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 11: kent Brook wind farm, and that wasn't challenged by the 370 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 11: experts of proponents. 371 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 9: When I was put to a planning committee meeting. 372 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 11: So this is untold billions of dollars that are being 373 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 11: spent here, and if those subsidies are taken away, there 374 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 11: would simply be no more investment in Australian renewable energy generation. 375 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 11: It's an absolute myth of falsehood that the market is 376 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 11: somehow teetering and waiting to put all of this money in. 377 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 11: Absolutely none of the money moves in without the government 378 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 11: basically forcing or compelling it in with some sort of 379 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 11: subsidy or a regulatory instrument that forces us to. 380 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 9: Pay higher bills to cover the costs. 381 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 11: So if there was no more subsidies, the renewable energy 382 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 11: would stop dead in its tracks, and in fact it 383 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 11: almost has even with the latest round of subsidies. A 384 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 11: lot of the major projects are not even reaching financial 385 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 11: clothes and that's just an indicator of how bad the 386 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 11: economics currently are for renewable energy in Australia. Because we 387 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 11: already have basically too much in the system. The honeymoon, 388 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 11: it's definitely. 389 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Over and it wasn't much of a honeymoon either it 390 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: and Morrison, thank you so much for your insights. Tonight, 391 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 3: still to come left He's losing it past. The latest 392 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: from the US, including today's Jeffrey Epstein revelations, are me 393 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: Horowitz as the details. You're watching the Reader Panehy Show, 394 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it. And we've seen 395 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: some astonishing stuff in this segment. 396 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: We've heard from. 397 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: Liars, gas lighters, the deluded, the deranged, and the dull witted. 398 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: And I'm about to play you a clip that brings 399 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: a lot of those elements together. Here is CNN's Abby 400 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: Philip talking to former MSNBC anchor and conspiracy theorist Joy Read. 401 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: The projection here is incredible. 402 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: Conservatives are living in a completely different information world, absolutely 403 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 4: and liberals, and breaking that down needs to be done 404 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: because when you don't ever even hear the facts, it's. 405 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 7: Hard to even know that you're wrong. 406 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: And that happens a lot. 407 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: Wow, just wow. 408 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: First, she says facts, she means her demented opinions, not 409 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: actual facts, and a reminder she's been wrong on just 410 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: about every consequential issue in recent years, along with Joyreid, 411 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: whose podcast she seems to be appearing on Joyread not 412 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: too long ago, pushing conspiracy theories about Donald Trump not 413 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: really being hit with a bullet in Butler, Pennsylvania. She's 414 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 3: as loopy as they come, but she's on the same 415 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: side as self delighted, self aggrandizer Abby Half. 416 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: My job sometimes is knowing what the latest conspiracy is 417 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: so that if it comes up, I'm ready to address it. 418 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 4: Because it happens a lot where people don't even know 419 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: that what they're saying or what they've seen and believe 420 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: is not true. And so that happens a lot, and 421 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: I don't come away from that saying, what's the point 422 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 4: of this? People are just saying false things. I think 423 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: that one time that that person brings up something that 424 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: is debunked and false and I debunk it at the 425 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: table might be the very first time that someone out 426 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: there has heard an alternative point of view. 427 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: Yes Week, conservatives really need Abby Philip, the hopelessly biased, 428 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: hopelessly wrong at Philip to debunk laws for us. 429 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: Let's have a look at her recent form. 430 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: It's clear as today the FBI put out statistics crime 431 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: is going down. You don't have to you don't have 432 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: to twist the facts. 433 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 12: The FBI quietly comes out with this new data that 434 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 12: shows actually violent crime. 435 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: Is up four and a half percent during that time frame. 436 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 4: The only person making an accusation that people are not 437 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: getting what they've asked for is Trump falsely claiming that 438 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: the administration is withholding resources because of political affiliation. 439 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 9: That is just not as well. 440 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 13: The Federal Emergency Management Agency is facing major backlash after 441 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 13: confirming reports that a supervisor ordered disaster relief workers to 442 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 13: avoid homes with Trump yard signs. 443 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: There's actually not any evidence linking any of Hunter Biden's 444 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: wrongdoings to. 445 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Joe by laurencerect You. 446 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 4: Think that Biden would actually pardon Hunter Biden, despite him 447 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: saying pretty yes, a he would. 448 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: Now he's going to get pardoned by his dad. 449 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 8: There's no question about that. 450 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: The President has ruled out pardoning his son. 451 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Breaking news. President Biden has just pardoned his son. 452 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: There's so much more, and thanks to May's Moore for 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: that great compilation. Now to another CNN simpleton, Brian Stelter, 454 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: who has launched a spirited defense of the BBC after 455 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: the British broadcaster ed deceptively and deliberately doctor footage of 456 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: President Trump's January sixth speech. Stelt is writing articles and 457 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: a slew of typically stupid tweets claiming things like the 458 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: BBC is feeling the Trump squeeze. It's a move we 459 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: have seen several times this year against vulnerable, vulnerable media companies. 460 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: The BBC is not vulnerable. It's that taxpayer funded goliath. 461 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: It's funded by a mandatory license fee paid by households, 462 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: and it receives close to four billion pounds per annum. 463 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: But those sort of facts are clearly beyond Brian. Joining 464 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: me now is filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army more 465 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: on the BBC scandal that has seen the resignation of 466 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: the BBC's Director General Tim Davey and head of News 467 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: Debra Turness after the taxpay funded broadcaster deliberately and dishonestly 468 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: adopted footage of Donald Trump's January sixth speech. But despite 469 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: the BBC's history of institutional bias, the British left is 470 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: circling the wagons as Donald Trump demands accountability. Let's hear 471 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: from Tim Davey, you have to be. 472 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 14: Very clear and stand up for our journalism. We are 473 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 14: and a unique and precious organization. And I see the 474 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 14: free press, I see the weapon under pressure, I see 475 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 14: the weaponization. I think we've got a fight for our journalism. 476 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 14: I'm really proud of our work and the amazing locally 477 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 14: globally that we're doing is utterly precious. 478 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: Unique and precious. Really, let's see it. 479 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: From liberal democrat and pay Manira Wilson, who is terrified 480 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: by the prospect of what she calls the trumplification of 481 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: our politics and media, get ready to lose some brain cells. 482 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 12: When Donald Trump got involved and called the BBC corrupt 483 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 12: that we've had these two resignations overnight and we've now 484 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 12: had his press secretary claiming this as a victory for Trump. 485 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 12: Now the BBC belongs to Britain, and I think we 486 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 12: should all be concerned, whether it's foreign powers or indeed 487 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 12: domestic powers. And we know that there are the likes 488 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 12: of Farage and Reform who would love to see the 489 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 12: BBC destroyed. That really worries me because we cannot see 490 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 12: the Trumpification of our politics and our media landscape. We've 491 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 12: seen what that's done in Americas this is a moment 492 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 12: for the BBC to reset and restore trust. 493 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: Army there really are terrified of any sort of accountability. 494 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: Let's not forget the BBC is taxpayer funded, are obliged 495 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: to pie for this leftist activist machine. 496 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, what a grift. They pay twenty US dollars a month. 497 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 15: That's more than Netflix. Okay, I don't know what that 498 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 15: comes out to an Australian dollars, like one thousand dollars. 499 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 15: I can't do the math in my head, but very 500 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 15: interesting lot okay, but very interestingly. 501 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: If you're blind you get a fifty. 502 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 15: Percent discount, I'm not joking. And if you have a 503 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 15: black and a white television you get a sixty six 504 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 15: percent discount. So go figure. There are deals to be 505 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 15: had at BBC. Oh god, Look, the truth is I 506 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 15: learned so much from the BBC. For example, did you 507 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 15: know that male breast milk is just as nutritious as 508 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 15: female breast? I bet you didn't know that, Yes, because 509 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 15: they have so much invested in men being women. That 510 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 15: did a story on how if you pump a man 511 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 15: with enough hormones, he will creep milk. Oh god, I 512 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 15: want to I want to. I want to poke my mind. 513 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 15: Ah my god, I'm sorry. I couldn't finished that. 514 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: No, they're the worst. They're the absolute worst. 515 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 15: And it's always so funny to me when my my 516 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 15: liberal friends here, they always go, oh uh, American news 517 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 15: is such bs CNN and Fox News garbage. 518 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I listen to the BBC. 519 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 15: Oh my god, the the effect reactions. 520 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: It's so gross that the BBC is awful. 521 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 15: Let's not forget that during the Gaza conflict, they did 522 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 15: a documentary on Gaza and the narrator of this documentary 523 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 15: was the son of Hamas Minister. Look, they're awful, obviously, 524 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 15: and there's no wonder that gb News, which is called 525 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 15: the center right, the right outlet there is eating their lunch. 526 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 15: They are now, for four months in a row, the 527 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 15: number one UH news show news news channel in England. 528 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 15: It's no wondering they've failed all across the border. 529 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's extraordinary. 530 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know that because GBN used their resources are 531 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: tiny compared to the BBC, and every household with the 532 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: television is obliged to give them money, as you explained now. 533 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: Nigel Farag's Reform. 534 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: Parties leading the polls, was also asked about Donald Trump 535 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: putting pressure on the BBC. 536 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: This was his response, what do you make. 537 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 6: Of President Trump weighing into the conversation about the BBC 538 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 6: and the British media landscape. 539 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Do you welcome that or does that concern you? 540 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 8: Well, if I was the president of the United States 541 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 8: of America, if I was the person making sure that 542 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 8: the United Kingdom had security guarantees, that meant that it 543 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 8: could be defended, whereas on its own it would be helpless. 544 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 8: And I'd been stitched up on the eve of a 545 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 8: national election. I mean, people talk about election interference. What 546 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: the BBC did was election interference. If you put yourself 547 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 8: in Donald Trump's shoes, I think you'll understand why. When 548 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 8: I had a chat with him on Friday, he made 549 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 8: his feelings on the subject known to me in no 550 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 8: uncertain terms and not in a quotable form. 551 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: I really do want to know what he said precisely. 552 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: But the British media army, the left will try to 553 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: use this to damage Nigel Farage. Given the relentless negative 554 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: media Donald Trump receives in Britain, they believe that can 555 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: hurt Forage because of his closeness to the President, But it. 556 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: Hasn't hurt him. 557 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: Yet look at this Reform, as you can see, is 558 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: well ahead of Labor and the Tories. 559 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: That could be the next British prime minister. 560 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: But there is just this, as you touched on, this 561 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: occupation with just how terrible politics and the media is 562 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: in the US and how much more free and rational 563 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: they are in the UK as they're arresting grandmothers for 564 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: tweeting memes. 565 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 15: Yeah, I get ready to say, Prime Minister Farage, the 566 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 15: Conservative Party whose lunch he's eating is not the party 567 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 15: of Margaret Thatcher. 568 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: That's for sure. 569 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 15: As the great poet philosopher Money Python says, it has 570 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 15: ceased to be. The Conservative Party has been hemorrhaging voters 571 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 15: and votes they and made they had. They had a 572 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 15: local election and they were trounced by the Reform Party 573 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 15: and many sort of an exit of a Brexit if 574 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 15: you will, of Conservative members going toward the Reform Party. 575 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 15: The Conservative Party had sixteen local councils defend. They lost 576 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 15: sixteen out of sixteen. That's just not going to do it. Yeah, 577 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 15: if you look at what the polls are saying in 578 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 15: terms of what British voters want, well, far and away, 579 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 15: far and away, the number one issue is immigration and 580 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 15: that's where their Foreign Party shines. The Conservative Party has 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 15: been echoing much of the sentiment of the Labor Party. Frankly, 582 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 15: when it comes to immigration, the number two issue is 583 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 15: the NHS, the National Health Service. That's a total tire 584 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 15: fire and a tire fire not only under the Labor 585 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 15: Party but also on the Conservative under the Conservative Party. 586 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 15: Which you have to understand for for certainly for our 587 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 15: American viewers, is that the politics in England is different 588 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 15: the American political process. 589 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: And same with you guys, is. 590 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 15: That in our in our in our in their process, 591 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 15: like the the Conservative Party is more like the middle 592 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 15: of the road. Democrats and the Labor Party are more 593 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 15: like you know, the squad. They're really become far left, uh, 594 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 15: and it's just not just it's just not getting done. 595 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 15: And now the Conservaive Party is kind of getting hip 596 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 15: to that and they're trying to like out Catholic the Pope, 597 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 15: and they have a new leader and she is trying 598 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 15: to out reform the Foreign Party, but the polls are 599 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 15: showing the voters aren't buying it. 600 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's what's going on there. 601 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: They've been burnt too many times the Brets, They the 602 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 3: Tories say all the right things, kind of like those 603 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: rhinos say all the right things before an election, and 604 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: then they get into power and they govern like they're 605 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: from the left. And now that there is a reform option, 606 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: as you saw in the in the polling, they're getting 607 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: a lot of support. Now, Ami, we will get to 608 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein saga, but first I want to play 609 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 3: you a clip from a drag queen named Ariel who 610 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: explains her devotion to the New York City mayor elect 611 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: Zora and Mamdani. 612 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 16: It gives me, maybe for the first time in my 613 00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 16: life in American politics, a real sense of hope to 614 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 16: actually have a politician that I really believe in and 615 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 16: that I feel like really stands up for the people 616 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 16: I care about most, from Palestinians to trans people, to Jews, 617 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 16: to just my neighbors all around your own heights where 618 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 16: I live, who live in reun stabilized apartments, the working 619 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 16: families of New York. To actually have a politician who's 620 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 16: truly standing with them, who has policies and planned. 621 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: There you go, who really cares about Muslims, the trans community, Jews. 622 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: You are a Jewish New Yorker, do you agree with 623 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: the ariel? 624 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: There is zorad. 625 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: Committed to make your life better? 626 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 15: A Muslim, a trans and a Jew walk into a 627 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 15: bar and that's a party. She was very sweet. I'm 628 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 15: a sucker for trying, lady. What can I tell you? Okay, 629 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 15: what was your question again? I Do I feel safer 630 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 15: as a Jew with mom? 631 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: Donnie? Yeah? The the I'm gonna go with no. On that, 632 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with no. 633 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 15: You know, it's so way and I've missed this before 634 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 15: and it's it bears repeating. 635 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 12: Right. 636 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 15: So when you go to synagogue here in New York 637 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 15: and other cities in America, but I'll speak about New York, 638 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 15: there's security threats we have. We have to pay for 639 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 15: security to stand in front of our synagogue. And during Bloomberg, 640 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 15: what Bloomberg would do is he gave us a police officers. 641 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 15: The police officer would go to and they would be 642 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 15: stationed a squad car outside of every major synagogue in 643 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 15: New York. And then during during Bolshevik Bill de Blasio, 644 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 15: he took that away. He said no more police officers 645 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 15: in front of synagogues. And then when Eric Adams came 646 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 15: he put them back. I guarantee you there'll be no 647 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 15: police cars in front of synagogues under the Mom Donnie regime, 648 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 15: and and. 649 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: Put us out all the Jewish issues. 650 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 9: You know. 651 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's play a game. You like games. I love games. 652 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: Let's play a game called Did he say these words okay? 653 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 15: Did Mom Donny say the words violence is an artificial construction? 654 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Yes he did. When asked. 655 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 15: About prisons, he said, Did he say what purpose do 656 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 15: they serve? 657 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: Yes? 658 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 9: He did. 659 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: He's a madman. 660 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 15: He is going to destroy New York City. So I 661 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 15: don't feel safe here as a Jew. I don't feel 662 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 15: safe here as a New Yorker. No American will feel 663 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 15: safe in the new New York City made under the 664 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 15: model of Zoel. 665 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm Donnie. 666 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have a lot of sort of social 667 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 3: workers doing great hugs with everybody. So it maybe not 668 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: as many police officers, but there'll be some alternatives that 669 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: I'm sure will work beautifully. Now let's get to the 670 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: latest revelations about disgraced financiers sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. 671 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: Let's start with. 672 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: These emails between discredited author Michael Wolf and Jeffrey Epstein, 673 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: who was a friend of his, where he told the 674 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 3: pediphile that he could be the bullet to end Donald 675 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: Trump's twenty sixteen campaign. Wolf told Epstein in an email, 676 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: you can hang him in a way that potentially generates 677 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 3: a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks 678 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. 679 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: What a slimy character, Army. I just want to go 680 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: to the biggest revelation. What was the headline news earlier 681 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: today and what much of the media focused on, And 682 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: sadly many people don't look beyond the headline. The headlines 683 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 3: read Trump spent hours at Epstein's house with victim of 684 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: sex trafficking email allegers. But Armie the victim who was 685 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 3: referred to as simply victim one with the Democrats on 686 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: the House Overside Committee deliberately withholding her name. Well, the 687 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: name has now been revealed, and it is the late 688 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: Virginia Giuffrey. 689 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 2: Who has said before her death. 690 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: Repeatedly, including earlier this year, that she witnessed no wrongdoing 691 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: from Donald Trump during their interactions. 692 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: So to ask you a very lengthy. 693 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 3: Question, are today's revelations another nothing burger? 694 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: Or is there something there? That concerns you. 695 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: How got I hate that term nothing burger. Yeah. 696 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 15: Michael Wolfe and Jeffrey Epstein two incredibly credible people, two 697 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 15: upstanding pillars of society. 698 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, answer your question. I went through. 699 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 15: I sat and combed through all those emails. It took 700 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 15: me twenty seconds. There were three emails. Each one was 701 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 15: like two sentences long. Okay, did I miss something I read? 702 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 15: We read them, and we read them. 703 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're talking about. I don't know 704 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: what the issue. He spent hours there, you know, alone 705 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: hours is hours? 706 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 15: Is like going to like an event for a couple 707 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 15: of what is our days is something hours? And then 708 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 15: the other email that the smoking gun that the media 709 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 15: is talking about. 710 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: Is, is he knew about the girls. 711 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 15: He asked Julaane Maxwell to stop. I mean, I don't know, 712 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 15: he asked Jelaine Maxwell to stop. 713 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't. 714 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 15: I just don't see where the smoking gun is. I 715 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 15: don't see the issue. 716 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I think. 717 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 15: Actually, the more fascinating part of his whole Epstein saga 718 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 15: is how the hard right is dealing with this right. 719 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 15: She have Marjorie Taylor Green strutting her stuff with the 720 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 15: left wing media, and she's being hailed right the View 721 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 15: loves her all of a sudden. 722 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: And she's you know, she's using this as to weaponize 723 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. She's so gross. She really is gross, 724 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: you know. 725 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 15: She again she's embodying this, this this horseshoe theory of politics. 726 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: Right right there on the View. And it's really gross. 727 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 15: But even even more grosses people like her and her 728 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 15: ilk using this. The anti Semitism is all streaming out 729 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 15: of them right where. 730 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: They are. 731 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 15: All the claims unsubstantial, with zero evidence. 732 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: The masade, the mosade is involved in this. Look, the 733 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: whole thing is just gross. 734 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 15: And Cash Bartel is a good guy and I think 735 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 15: if a something there it be released. They'res nothing there, 736 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 15: but they will not let this thing go. 737 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: Me Horowitz, thank you so much for your time still 738 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: to come. 739 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: Why queer characters have been slashed from TV shows? 740 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 2: Daty dune Levy has the detause. Welcome back. 741 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 3: Joining me now is veteran broadcaster Daity dun Levy. Now, 742 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 3: we love a good apology, d d A genuine apology 743 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 3: when someone has actually done something wrong. And Pierce Morgan 744 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 3: delivered a heartfelt apology to tennis legend Novak Djokovic for 745 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: the absurd a taxi launched because Novak refused to submit 746 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: to the COVID shot. 747 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 17: You got thrown out of Australia over what seemed to be, 748 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 17: on the face of it, from what the media were 749 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 17: being told and what was being reported, was you trying 750 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 17: to bend the rules of getting into playing in Australian 751 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 17: Open without having taken the COVID vaccine. And I was 752 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 17: actually quite censorius about a lot of people at the time, 753 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 17: and I've since apologized to some people. I was too censorious. 754 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 17: And when more information emerged about your situation, the fact 755 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 17: you'd had COVID several weeks before you went to Australia, 756 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 17: the fact that you hadn't actually done anything wrong on 757 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 17: the form filling, the fact that in the end it 758 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 17: became a political decision to throw you out based on 759 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 17: likely public anger if they didn't take action. When I 760 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 17: look back on that and reflect on that, I would 761 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 17: like to say, I'm sorry for the intemperate language I 762 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 17: used against you. Because I didn't know you. I took 763 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 17: what I was reading and hearing at face value. It 764 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 17: turned out to be more complicated, Diddy. 765 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: There are plenty of media pundits in this country who 766 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 3: need to be lining up to apologize to Novak as well. 767 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: I want to say I'm not one of them. 768 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 3: I was one of the few voices defending him at 769 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 3: the time, but some of the coverage he received was 770 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: just unhinged. He was called the most hated man in 771 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 3: Australia at one point. 772 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 18: Well, I'm filled with shame right now, and I hats 773 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 18: off to Piers Morgan. 774 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 7: I'm absolutely with him. 775 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 18: But I as you know, because you were on my show. 776 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 18: I hosted a radio show at the time, and I 777 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 18: joined the pylon and look for me, it wasn't so 778 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 18: much about hating Novak Jokovic or necessarily wanting. 779 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 7: A needle jabbed in his arm. 780 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 18: It was more about the fact that we didn't want 781 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 18: him to be seen to be getting special treatment when 782 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 18: the rest of us were going through hell. And I 783 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 18: remember you and I discussed him this. I do remember 784 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 18: the first time sort of COVID came up in the 785 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 18: news and you saying, look, we're all going to get it. 786 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 18: Let's just get it and get on with our lives. 787 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 7: No. 788 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 18: I remember looking at you and thinking Ritus lost her mind. 789 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 18: But you know, you were proven to be right and 790 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 18: The reason I feel feel for shame is because we 791 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 18: were as broadcasters, as media figures, we were encouraged to 792 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 18: get people to you know, encourage them to get the 793 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 18: jab because that's what we were being told. Get to 794 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 18: ninety percent, ninety eight percent, whatever it was, and they'll 795 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 18: let us out of our homes. We can return to 796 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 18: our normal lives. And so, you know, I joined in. 797 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 18: I thought I was doing the right thing. But looking back, 798 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 18: you know, I wish I had my time again. I 799 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 18: did question it at the time, but I wish that 800 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 18: i'd pushed harda. 801 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: You were nowhere near the people I was thinking of 802 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: when I made that statement. I do remember those discussions, 803 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 3: but you weren't launching into these ugly attacks against Novak. 804 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 3: You just thought you didn't want any sort of special 805 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 3: treatment for a celebrity and millionaire. So I think your 806 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 3: apology that is not all that necessary. Now, talking about apologies, 807 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 3: let's discuss the ongoing feud between David and Victoria Beckham 808 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 3: and their son Brooklyn and his wife Nikola. A source 809 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: and stole The Daily Mouth that Brooklyn would only accept 810 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 3: something that is considered a substantive and public apology from 811 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 3: his parents before. 812 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: Reconciling with them. Did he what's going on here? 813 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 18: Well, look, I can understand him standing by his wife. 814 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 18: This all goes back to their wedding when he and 815 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 18: he's taken on his wife's name, it's Peltz Beckham. 816 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 7: Now for him. 817 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 18: They felt, or the couple, Nicola and Brooklyn felt that 818 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 18: David and Victoria were planting stories in the. 819 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 7: Press around them, which is look at it. It is 820 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 7: conceivable because the two of them do have a hotline 821 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 7: to the media. But I don't know whether that was founded. 822 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 18: It may have been happening through an agent of Victoria 823 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 18: and David. 824 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 7: But I don't think you can tell and Beck's what 825 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 7: to do. 826 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 18: And I also don't think you will ever win a 827 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 18: pr war against this couple. They seem to go from 828 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 18: strength to strength. He's just been knighted. She's got a 829 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 18: really successful well I. 830 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 7: Loved it anyway, a series on Netflix. And I don't 831 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 7: think you can tell them what to do. 832 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 18: I do have a feeling though, that Victoria, if anyone 833 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 18: can fix it, Victoria can. 834 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 7: She's very strong, very family oriented. 835 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 18: I think that she will be able to broak us 836 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 18: some sort of a piece deal. 837 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 7: But I think it will take more time Now. 838 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: Insider has told Page six that Meghan Markle was apparently 839 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 3: in networking mode at christ Jenna's seventieth birthday party. There 840 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: were a lot of A listers there, including Mariah Kerry, 841 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: Justin Bieber, Hayley Bieber, Oprah Winfrey, Gail King, and Ddi. 842 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: The sau said, Megan was schmoozing with a lot of 843 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 3: power players. 844 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 2: How do you see that? Because she's copying. 845 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: Some criticism for not wearing a Remembrance Day poppy. 846 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 2: We covered that story first here on Monday, and it was. 847 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: So glaringly obvious because Harry was wearing a poppy and 848 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 3: obviously the day holds a lot of significance for him. 849 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,959 Speaker 18: Well differently, and her excuse was incredibly lame. She said 850 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 18: that she couldn't get one. Look, you could order them 851 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 18: on Amazon, cost you about five bucks or something and 852 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 18: it'll be there the same day. Look, the grifter was hustling. 853 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 18: Are we surprised? 854 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 7: I don't think we are at all. 855 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 18: I find their appearance at this party looked not surprising, 856 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 18: because you know, she could not be happier. This is 857 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 18: her happy place, She's found her people. She's wallowing in 858 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 18: this pit of narcissistic, self loving people. 859 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 7: But what about the irony here? So Harry and. 860 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 18: Meghan detest the intrusion of the press. They absolutely hated 861 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 18: that get away from us. We're terrified of the paparazzi, 862 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 18: And yet here they are metaphorically in bed with a 863 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 18: family who have made and built their entire empire on 864 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 18: sharing every little detail of their lives, who have the 865 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 18: paparazzi on speed dial. 866 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 7: So which one is it? Harry and Megan? 867 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 18: These two are so insincere, and I'm just I'm not 868 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 18: surprised by their presence there. She's just doing anything she 869 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 18: can to grasp, but keeping herself in the headlines. 870 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 3: Now before you go, Queer characters have been slashed from 871 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 3: TV shows amid a massive U turn on woke DEI 872 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: policies and initiatives in the US, with Deadline reporting that 873 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: around forty one percent of the four hundred and eighty 874 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: nine LGBTQ characters that were on the small screen this year, 875 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 3: well they won't be returning, with further cancelations also likely. 876 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 3: Is this the case of the market speaking? Are they 877 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 3: just as our viewers, just sick of the over representation? 878 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and these networks should have seen this coming. 879 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 18: I mean, it was one of the major pillars of 880 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 18: Donald Trump's election campaign was getting rid of all this 881 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 18: DEI and all this woke rubbish and some of these programs. 882 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 7: They just make you feel uncomfortable in your own living room. 883 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 7: And we don't want that. We just want to be entertained. 884 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 18: And if you feel as though you're being given a 885 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 18: lecture rather than being able to just relax and enjoy 886 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 18: a story unfolding, you know you can hear them scratching 887 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 18: and ticking the DEI boxes in the background. We don't 888 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 18: want that, and that's not what people want it. It's 889 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 18: not what the people have a mouth are so right, 890 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 18: and the ratings have shown that those shows had to go. Yeh, 891 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 18: it's the box ticking. 892 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 3: It's just when it's absolutely unnecessary and you can almost 893 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: see they're putting together a production by just ticking boxes. 894 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: Diddie dune Levy always a pleasure. And that's it for me. 895 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night at nine pm for Left 896 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: is Losing It News Night is up next