1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is the City with cap Riki podcast. It's a 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: good sound song, the process his song song. I love 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: dissecting songs. How did it come to be? Song to be? 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: We're going to be focusing on Britney Spears, one of 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: her biggest hits of all time, Toxic Today. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: We all know I love this song. I'm a bit 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: of a Spearzy fan. Or even back to the day 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: of hit Me Baby one More Time. This is a 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: great song. It's a great sound. 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Twenty one years ago, mate, two thousand and four, it 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: came out. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: It was from the album. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: In the Zone from Britney Spears. Do you know what 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: this is? This just goes to show. 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: How little Britney really did on all the songs. Here 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: we go. 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: Because Sweet produces, Bloodsheine and of Vart were their names. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: They were watching a Bollywood movie. This is unbelievable. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: So this is a Bollywood movie from nineteen eighty one, 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Whip Okay, And there was a scene where they were performing. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: Have a listen to the Bollywood movie. 22 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? So, I mean it's still not but 23 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: see that they took bits of that little bit there. 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: It's amazing where something just there is must have pricked 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: up and gone, that sounds really good. 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Let's put it together. 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: And this is the rough demo of them putting that 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Bollywood movie together. 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: They can't you see. So that was the start of 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the song. 31 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: So then they send it to the record company. The 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: record company put it together. This is Britney Spears talking 33 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 2: about it. So then you have got this amazing beat. 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: You've got this amazing song put together. Britney Spears talks 35 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: about what the song toxic and the lyrics are all about. 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: Toxic is about being addicted to a guy's kiss of 37 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: his love and you know in when she gets around him, 38 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: the whole world like when you a feeling of being 39 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: in love or nothing makes sense and you're kind of 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: a little line. 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: But see this, this is the thing that blows my mind. 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: Brittany didn't write it. Someone was brought in to write 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: lyrics and melody. Have a listened to this whip. 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 5: British songwriter Kathy Dennis was brought in to write lyrics 45 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 5: and it's Hypelaine melody. 46 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: To her can't come, He's in my head stand around. 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: So that was Kathy Dennis showing Britney how to do it. 48 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy it is. 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I am going to go through because I then did 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: some research on this and I go, well, does Britney. 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: Get paid royalties for this song? She gets buggaroll No, 52 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: well she must so the song. 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three tipped over one billion streams on Spotify. 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: It's over twenty years old. 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: But this is the thing because you only get point 56 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: zero three since for a stream it's made between three 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: to five million dollars in royalties, but that doesn't hardly 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: any of that goes to Brittany, goes to all the writers. 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: So it's those two Swedish guys. It's Kathy Dennis, and 60 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: then it's this guy here. He's in it as well. 61 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: He's he was told to come in and do a 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: bit of bass. Have listened to the bass players background. 63 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: The base was. 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: Played by Thomas Lindberg, a death metal vocalist known as 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: Goat Spell. 66 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Glad that didn't put that bit in so so it's 67 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: an interesting mix of people that put together Britney spears 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: Toxic listen. 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: Basically, Toxic is an Indian surf ra death metal dance 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 5: pop song made by four Swedes and one for an American. 71 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: The thing is right if you're Britney Spears. You're going 72 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: to say, and you're going to try and negotiate. Yeah, 73 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: I get it, guys, but you can't sell it without 74 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: my name on it. But then they're going to go, well, 75 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: we can take this to another artist. Britney say, do 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: you want this song? Because this is the genius. So 77 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: Britney says, well, do you know what? I need to 78 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: sell shows and I need songs, so I'm going to 79 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: make my money back if I'm performing live. They're all right, 80 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: I'll take a minimum cut on this one because I 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: know this is a hit. 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Well, this is her Las Vegas residency is where Britney 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: makes her money, so she performs toxic. 84 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: She doesn't perform it live. It's probably mind too, doesn't she? 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: She mins? 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: But but the it's interesting that it's it's made around 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: about five million dollars in royalties, but that goes to 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: the two Swedish producers, to Kathy Dennis and to the 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: bass play in a death bettle. 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Band, Oh my god, and we have to pay a 91 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: dollar every time we play it here at Novada, we tell. 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: He comes out of your popper. Here we go here 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: it comes. 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: So who wins? Kathy Kathy Dennis is another fifty five 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: cents coming your way, Kathy. 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 6: This is the Fitzian Wiper with Cape Ritchie podcast. 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: The process song So want to get a new intro? 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: It is fascinating. It's fascinating the process of her hit song. 99 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: How do they put it together? 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: Well, we're focusing today on Justin Bieber's song where Are 101 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: You Now? 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Moustic sounds in this song. Beaver was approached by Diplo 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: and scrill X. 104 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: Now Diplo and scrill X had a well, they collaborated. 105 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: They were called jack You, Jack You. 106 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: This is a really interesting one because they're manufacturing sounds 107 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: and basically, you know, you use synthesizers in dance music 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: and tempos and all this kind of stuff, but you 109 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: know what, there's only so much that you can do 110 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: on an organ or so they've actually manufactured a lot 111 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: of sounds in this song themselves. But let's talk about 112 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: tempo first. It's fascinating. Like I mean, when you've got 113 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: to get people on the dance floor, you start down 114 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: low and then you realize we need people dancing to 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: this song, so you've got to pump it up a 116 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: little bit. 117 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: This is Diplo talking about the tempo of the song. 118 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: The drop has an A and B part. The first 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: part is simple, kind of hip hop bees second drop, 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 6: second half of the first drop goes double time. Great, 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: it's a little more uptemprong, got it. 122 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm thineking you know what, because you do, you kick 123 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: off a song with that, you ease them into it, 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: and then when you kick into that double bass bang, God, 125 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: that's when you just can't. 126 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Rocking your head. So what I was talking about before, usually. 127 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: Synthesizer sounds, and I mean you can go to a 128 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: computer to make these sounds, but they in this song 129 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: they use Justin Bieber's voice so much to make up 130 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: brand new sounds, so they manipulated his voice. 131 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: This is Diplow explaining that. 132 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 6: The first thing we made with the song was literally 133 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 6: just me playing with the vocals. 134 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Misting. 135 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 6: Anybody can copy any sense. Now you can find the 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 6: synse sounds, you can find process, but if you manipulate vocals, 137 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: it's something really original. We took a lot of his 138 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: vocals and did different things to it, like added we 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: had it like natural harmonies because we didn't have anything 140 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 6: from him. We just had a vocals. We've created our 141 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 6: own and he's like, this is going to be You're 142 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 6: down to seventh, right. 143 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: And then we have this classic diplo is it? I mean? 144 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: And the most iconic part of this song, and this 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: is the last one, is that flute that you're hearing your. 146 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Background now, all right, And this gives you a bit 147 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: more of an understanding of how they got that flute 148 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: sound together. 149 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I had no idea. It had to do with Justin 150 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Bieber's voice. The nature. 151 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: You do the most, you do the most, you the 152 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 5: most the last. 153 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: That's really cool. Isn't that fascinating? 154 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: Because if I mean, without Justin Bieber in it, and 155 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: let's so somebody had that sound as a ring tone, 156 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: you'd hate it forever. I had everything else and you 157 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: got yourself a hit. 158 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: That's the nugget of gold right there, isn't it? 159 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: And for any producer, that's what you're trying to find, 160 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: something that sticks in people's minds. Whenever you hear this song, 161 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: that is the one iconic you think it's a flute. 162 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: It sounds like a flute. I thought Lizzo was on 163 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: there with their flute us. It's not just Justin Bieber 164 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: and just sped up. 165 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: His beat once again with a lot of these songs 166 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: didn't really have anything to do with a song recorded 167 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: a couple of vocals. They kept saying, we just had 168 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: that file and we kept playing with it. 169 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: I think, Jess, you've listened to Justin Bieber's new album. 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: His new album is very, very good, and I think 171 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: he has full rights to it this time. There's no 172 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: record company involved, so he said, I'm going to be 173 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: getting all the royalties for my own song. 174 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: So he wrote a majority of these correct. Yeah, and 175 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: he wrote on this song as well. He wrote the lyrics, 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: but they just sent him the track. But the new 177 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: album Swaggon is really really good. Check it out. 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast to walk 179 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: great shows like this. Download the Nova Player via the 180 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: App Store or Google Play. 181 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: The Nova Player