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Speaker 2: For the longest part of his life, Sam Wood was

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Speaker 2: And that made great television.

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Speaker 2: it's not going to matter. It's going to come from

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Speaker 2: someone with consequence. Man. But I just remember the way

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Speaker 2: But I just remember that that night, it was, it was,

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, well that's okay that you know, not

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00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: not not to you know, either way doesn't worry me,

439
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: but that's more for her.

440
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: You are that person in her life. Yeah, exactly, there

441
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: are men.

442
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: But we have had you know, tumultuous you know, three

443
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: or four years when you know, sort of thirteen to

444
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: seventeen where we were banging heads like a couple of

445
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: stubborn goats for a lot. It was hard, and you know,

446
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: we've come out the other side now we have a

447
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: wonderful relationship. But it is such a hard thing when

448
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: you don't know how hard is too hard? You Yeah,

449
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always felt like Snares was the

450
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: really soft one and so there needed to be a

451
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: bit of a balance there, and then I was the

452
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: bad guy. It was, it was, it was really tricky,

453
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: and you know they're smart and testing you and working.

454
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, they know that as the step parent they've

455
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: got a bit more power and you know, it's it

456
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: is such a tricky thing to navigate, but I mean,

457
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: such a beautiful, rewarding thing, and I'm so so glad

458
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: that that it happened for me. But yeah, it's it's been.

459
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: It's been. Really it's a it's a really hard thing.

460
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: And always say to me, oh, you you're so hard

461
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: on her, Like even when Willow was three, maybe would

462
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: have been sixteen, She's like, why are you so hard

463
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: on her? And you're not like that with Willa. I'm like,

464
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: it's not It's got nothing to do with Avy being

465
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: my step daughter and Willow being my daughter. It's Willow's

466
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: three and she's sick. Like Willow doesn't know better, she

467
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: should know about it. That had nothing to do with it,

468
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: you know. But that's still a really tricky argument or

469
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: discussion to have with your partner. So I was. It

470
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: always tested Snaarz and eye was almost the only thing

471
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: we'd ever fight about. It was, you know, it really

472
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: sort of tested our relationship at times because I felt

473
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: I was doing Evia disservice by not acting exactly as

474
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I would as her dad. But then when you do,

475
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: sometimes that bites you in the ass, you know, like.

476
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Ibsolutely like that. It's it's an incredible and they're gonna

477
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: be wrong. It is incredible. Absolutely change my life because

478
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: it you know, people talk about it when they hold

479
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: their child in their arms, like, oh my world changed

480
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: to stop being about me, Like that happened with Georgia. Yeah,

481
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: I didn't need her to be my biological daughter for

482
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: me to go oh, everything's got to be about making

483
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: this life amazing for you now.

484
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: Wow. A hard thing is that you don't have any

485
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: warm up no, Like it's like you learn so much

486
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: in the first ten years of being a parent. Oh yeah,

487
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: that you can then put into practice for the next

488
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: ten years. It's like boom, drop in, be good at this.

489
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: It's like, holy shit.

490
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: Why are you're not better at that? You know you

491
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that.

492
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: Ago, I was a single, selfish, you know, I'm just

493
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: getting hit around having a partner this as well. It

494
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: was It was a lot pretty fast.

495
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: It really was that when they're like eleven or twelve,

496
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: they start to challenge you as an adult. Absolutely, and

497
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: I would return serve as an adult. And now you're crying.

498
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: How many times you're looking in the mirror going like hell,

499
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: that's wrong. What am I doing?

500
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: We got really lucky. Audrey the children's hospitally r US

501
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: has an excellent child psych unit off to the side

502
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: of it, and we got really lucky. There's a program

503
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: they have there for blended families coming together, and we

504
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: went and did about I don't know, it stops when

505
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: they're twelve, so I don't know. We did a couple

506
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: six months, nine months, all three.

507
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: Of you together. No, it was me and Audrey company. Okay.

508
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: It's like, if you want to change the kids, you

509
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: change the parents. It's not like because they do what

510
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: they do what they see, you know.

511
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: Having those discussions there though, and then there's putting them

512
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: into practice when when when the fork in the road

513
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: moment comes, there is a much harder But.

514
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: I will say it was not long after we got engaged,

515
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: and it was public fairly quite because we, of course

516
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: you and Sinjana obviously spoke about it, and like when

517
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: you introduce someone to your kid, it's like it's very yeah,

518
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: you got to be respectful of it, but also you

519
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: need to be respectful of like, well, do you know

520
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: when do we let everybody know about this? Particularly with

521
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: the job I do. But it became public that we

522
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: were engaged, and it was the first outside shoot day

523
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: on the following season. I can't remember which one it was,

524
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: but it's the one whether the like you know, you

525
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: have walked into one. There's like twenty four women there

526
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: all right, and you know you're you're hiding around the

527
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: corner and I was saying, here he is, and then

528
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: he comes.

529
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Now I'll go woo.

530
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: And we were waiting for you know whoever the batch

531
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: was to get you know, set, and they were moving

532
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: a camera or whatever, and so there's all twenty four

533
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: of them in front of me and one of them

534
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: pops up.

535
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: Says, you got a stepdaughter. Your fiance has got a child.

536
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: I said yeah, and she went stick with it. I

537
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: was like, pardon, she goes yeah, stick with it. I

538
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: was about twenty six when I hugged my stepdad for

539
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: the first time. And then one of the other ones went, oh, yeah,

540
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: I was twenty two, but absolutely yeah. And another one says, oh, mate,

541
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: I railly, Yeah, I got ten years. And I was like,

542
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: but honestly, Sam, because in that moment, it's you've never

543
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: and I know you can relate to this.

544
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: It's the same love you feel for the little baby.

545
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: It's the same love that there's a is a cality,

546
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: there's something that is never going to come back to

547
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: you because you're not their dad and because that belongs

548
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: to their dad, and that's what it is. And I'm

549
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: cool with it. It's great because that's a great bloke

550
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: and she has a great relationship with him. But when

551
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: I heard that that day and they volunteered this information,

552
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: it was interesting, Oh wow, like there is another side

553
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: of this. It does there's a perspective that shows up.

554
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. My take was always like, never expect anything. Never Yeah,

555
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, never read too much into it if it

556
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: is or it isn't there, Yeah, you know, never never

557
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: dictate the pace of the relationship, you know, like that

558
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: all has to come from me. And you know, we've

559
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: and there's definitely been no linear sort of growth in

560
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: that space. It sort of started strong, and then we

561
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: had this rocky few years as she was sort of

562
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: figuring herself out and I wasn't. I was way out

563
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: of my depth, and you know, all this kind of

564
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: stuff happened, and then it's it's been probably more linear.

565
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: In the last two years. We've actually had the best

566
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: relationship since she's moved to university and she's sort of

567
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: working out life without mum holding her hand so much,

568
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: and I think comes to me a lot more because

569
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: she's working stuff out without Snaars, sort of working stuff

570
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: out for her. And it's been it's been actually really

571
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: good for our relationship. I've done a couple of trips

572
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: to New York just by just me without Snaares, and

573
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: we've hung out and it's been really really nice.

574
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Actually, wow, that's beautiful.

575
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: It's been special. It's it's funny how the time that

576
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: we can spend just the two of us then when

577
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: all of us are back together really boosts the group

578
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: dynamics because we've had that one on one time that

579
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: and it's and I'm saying that selfishly because I love

580
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Snares and you have the closest relationship with two people

581
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I've ever met in my life, you know, like single mum.

582
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: Best friends, the same with children, in the.

583
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Same bed basically for a decade before I came along.

584
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: So sorry, amazing, And so you can't you know, you

585
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: can't compete with that. You know, you've got to sort

586
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: of work your place out pretty you're always going to

587
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: be number two. Yeah, Yeah, exactly. But but yeah, you've

588
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: got to work out your the right dynamic. If I

589
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: guess your own relationship on the yeah, without it's probably

590
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: easier to form a relationship just the two of you

591
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: than trying to fit in as the third will in

592
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, this incredibly tight little bond.

593
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: There was another thing that really helped me. One of

594
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: the guys I played poker with, Bennie. He he told

595
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: me when he was he was ten, and he said,

596
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: what happened now looking back on it, I thought he

597
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: was all right? But I thought, if I like him,

598
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: that it means I don't like my dad, and I

599
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: don't want to not like my dad's interest, so I

600
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: have to not like him. Yeah, and that makes sense.

601
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: You know. I was a bit like that with my

602
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: dad's partner. I mean, my mum died when I was

603
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: fifteen and my dad got a new partner when I

604
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: was twenty, and I had a weird I mean as

605
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: a twenty year old too, a bit more far more mature,

606
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: but I had a funny chip on my shoulder that

607
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, my mum's irreplaceable, and you know, therefore I'm

608
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: going to always treat you like a bit of a

609
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: jerk because it's like a it's like a I don't know,

610
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: an ode to my mum or something stupid. I don't know,

611
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: but that you know. Yeah, I was like that for

612
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: a good, stubborn decade. Yeah. I mean they're still together.

613
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Did you figure it out? Yeah? Yeah, we've got a

614
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: good relationship now. But I think it was also the

615
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: age that I was at. I was like, I'm twenty,

616
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need you. Like my younger

617
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: brother and sister had a much stronger relationship with her

618
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: much sooner because they lived with her and they needed it,

619
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, no, no, I'm already you know,

620
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: flowing the coop and I'm a man and I'm growing

621
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: up and all this crap. You know. It was a

622
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: bit of a different sort of psychology for me. But

623
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: it's funny that you say that because I had something said.

624
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: It helped me, as those things, you know also really

625
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: helped me. But it's yeah, I think stepdads often get

626
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: a bad rap.

627
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. But I couldn't believe how many messages

628
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: on social media I got from single mom's Yeah, thank

629
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: you for choosing snares. You've given me hope. As a

630
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: single mum, where perhaps i'd sort of stopped and you know,

631
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: like as it said to me, I didn't think i'd

632
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: ever have another boyfriend alone remarry and I sort of

633
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: went on the showers because EV said I should as

634
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a joke. I thought i'd be home

635
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: in a week. Yeah, you know later, you know.

636
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: Because the fact that, like, if you're over thirty years blake,

637
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: you're going to be dating women with kids.

638
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, you're going to.

639
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Be dating with the kids. If you don't want to

640
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: break the half your age plus seven, which you shouldn't

641
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: if you'd be dating age appropriate, You're going to be

642
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: dating women with children. And you know what, It'll make

643
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: you more of a man. I'll tell you that for nothing,

644
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: because you know, certainly, if you've been single all time,

645
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: you might still be a little boy. And I can

646
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: tell you the last thing a woman with a kid wants.

647
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: Is a Nike Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that. The

648
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: biggest learning from the show was have an open mind,

649
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: because I wasn't closed off to having a partner with kids.

650
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I just hadn't thought about it. But when I heard

651
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: Snares had a daughter, yeah, I was just it was like,

652
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: imagine how different things could have been if I, Oh,

653
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: well that that's a deal breaker for me. And at

654
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: that thought never entered my mind, and I chose door

655
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: B and look what happened, you know, like it's the

656
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: best best sort of non thought I ever could have had.

657
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: And then just say yes to things like going on

658
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the show in the first place. There was a fair

659
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: bit of fear and trepidation to maybe taking that plunge,

660
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: and if I hadn't done it, my god, what would

661
00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: have been?

662
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

663
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I make sure I sort of carry those

664
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: two things with me from now on. It's like, keep

665
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: an open mind and you just say yes.

666
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: Just taking a moment away from Sam Wood to play

667
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: some ads back in a second. One of the things

668
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: I say in my Super Secret Sober Club progress not perfection.

669
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: We talked about that earlier.

670
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: And so all all I really want to do is

671
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: like I just want to, you know, how can I

672
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: get this a little bit better? Yeah, it's fucking name

673
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: of the show, Like that's it. Like, what's just a

674
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: little bit better? What's the one thing that I can

675
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: improve on? Because I know that if I can get

676
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: the smallest granular bit different from yesterday, then that's better

677
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: than it was. And if I just do add one

678
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: more on that. Like when I first lost all that weight,

679
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I had to trick myself by saying, I'm going to

680
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: go check the mail. I was nineteen unemployed, well over

681
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: one hundred kilos, so I'll go check them. But my

682
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: letterbox was here, and there was a block. There's probably

683
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: eight hundred meters. I've measured it. Since it's like, oh,

684
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: go go check them mails. Put my shoes on and

685
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: I walked left instead of down my mailbox, and so

686
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: I walked down herdred meters and then I grabbed the

687
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: mail out of the mailbox and went inside. I was like,

688
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: I checked the mail. Yeah, And that turned into like

689
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: within six weeks, that turned into running five k's a day.

690
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: The two messages there the proyer is not perfection, which

691
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely live by and it's our motto of our online

692
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: preyer and my love. But also just start with something,

693
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: we just all build it up into what the final

694
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: product needs to look like. Or you know, I've got

695
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: to do the sixty minute workout five times a week,

696
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: or I've got to follow the eating plan for twenty

697
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: one meals a week. You know, just start by having

698
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: more water, a healthier breakfast, and going for a little

699
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: walk and then just build from there. Man, it's the

700
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: layer's model works. And if you go out at a

701
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: million I was an hour, even with the best of intentions,

702
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: it's not going to stick. For ninety nine percent of people.

703
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: You're just not going to make it. You're gonna get

704
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: injured or be so sorey you can't sit on the toilet,

705
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: or just no one's got the motivation to get themselves

706
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: up and attack that every single day. But if you

707
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: build it up in layers, I mean, when you do

708
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: a workout and you look at yourself in the mirror

709
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: the next day, you don't look any different to what

710
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you looked yesterday. But if you do that for three

711
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: months and then you look at yourself in the mirror

712
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: for the first time, oh my god, you know ninety

713
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: days later, it's like, Wow, what a difference. And I

714
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: think people just need to be a bit more patient.

715
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: And the layers thing is massive.

716
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: So why twenty eight not ninety days?

717
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Then, well, twenty eight is all about twenty eight minutes

718
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: or less, because I think I think we're playing.

719
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: I just feel lovely, you feel that every tour man

720
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: that's okay, just I'm really getting comfortable.

721
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just when I started twenty eight, I thought

722
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: there's a couple of online fitness programs and they're doing

723
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: good things for some people, but they are really intense,

724
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: both in psychology and what they were asking their members

725
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: to do, sixty minute workouts, you know, counting calories, very restrictive,

726
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: and they were sort of getting fit people fitter, and

727
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, the people that need this the most are

728
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: the people that can't walk around the eight hundred meters

729
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: block to get their mail and petrified of the thought

730
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: of going to a gym, and have poor self esteem

731
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: and confidence, and they're getting further away from where they

732
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: need to be, not closer. And so we started something

733
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: that was twenty eight minute workouts or less. You could

734
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: do it all from the comfort of your own home,

735
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: and we adopted this progress not perfection attitude and it worked.

736
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: And then the best thing that's ever happened to the

737
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: program is the community, the positivity and the support and

738
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: the community and like minded people helping each other rather

739
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: than just coming from Sam the trainer or yeah, I

740
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: hope that I've got more empathy than most but I'm

741
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: not going to understand what a fifty year old woman

742
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: who's got fifty helos to lose feels like another fifty

743
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: year old woman who's done it. And the way they

744
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: support each other and lift each other up has just

745
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: been the most beautiful thing. And my job now is

746
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: just to facilitate that rather than be the spokesperson.

747
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: You're talking about a client that would come to your

748
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: gym and the whole session was you talking to them

749
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: while they walked to the treadmill. And I kind of

750
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: really like that.

751
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I saw this lady for five days a week at

752
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: seven am, and she'd be twenty minutes late. It'd be

753
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, she'd and I'd sort of I used to

754
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: have a bit of it. I started out a bit

755
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: frustrated as a sort of young you know, you've got

756
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: to do more and be more punctual, and then I

757
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: sort of worked out, n this is her thing. Like,

758
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: she's very busy person, she loves the com and the

759
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: alternative would be she did nothing. She would pay me

760
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars every day to stand next to her

761
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and just talk shit for forty minutes while she walked

762
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: on an incline on a treadmill every now and then

763
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: I'd get to do a few lunges and abuse quots

764
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: or whatever, which she would like not like, but eventually

765
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: I'd build up the rapport with her that we could

766
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: get an adventure into some slight strength training. But that's

767
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: just what she wanted to do.

768
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: But she was motivated by the connection. She knew that

769
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: she needed to move her by It.

770
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Was about the friendship, and it was the friendship first.

771
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: It was the fitness was it was daylight. Second, and

772
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: then the fact that I'd burned a few calories was

773
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, a distant third. It was she just loved

774
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the company and it was a good start to her day.

775
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Like she'd never even admitted she was a stubborn thing,

776
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: beautiful person, but very strong world. She would have never

777
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: admitted how good it made her feel, Like it was

778
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: just ticking a box, you know, never give me the satisfaction.

779
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: But I knew that she would have got back in

780
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 1: her car, like I really do feel better after doing

781
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: that physical exertion.

782
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: But I bring that up because you mentioned the community

783
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: as like, if you can couple the physicality and the

784
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: the commitment to eat towards the kind of goal you want.

785
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: If you can couple that with the accountability of someone

786
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: else there, that's the secret source, isn't it.

787
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean accountability is a really funny thing,

788
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: especially in an online world, because it's kind of easy

789
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: to hide. It's kind of you know. I always encourage

790
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: them to when you join the program, or want you

791
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: to tell five people or at least at least two,

792
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, tell them what you've joined and what you're

793
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: hoping to get out of. It doesn't need to be

794
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm losing these five kilos in a month. It doesn't

795
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: need to be that specific. But don't join something and

796
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: then if you left it, no one would have known

797
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: that you're even there in the first place. I tell

798
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: people you're on a mission to get yourself fitter and healthier,

799
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: and you've started it by joining this twenty eight program,

800
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: and tell them what it is if they don't know

801
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: about it. And when they do that, it's just like, oh, yeah, okay,

802
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: there is account You're a posting this community here if

803
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: you want to. Hi. You know, I'm a shah and

804
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm in my fifties and this is why I'm here,

805
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: and this is my background, and you own it, you know,

806
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: put it out there for all to see, and it's

807
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: a bloody scary thing for a lot of people to do.

808
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: But when they do it, they feel like this weight

809
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: speed lifted off their shoulders because they now can't just

810
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: quit throwing the tower and no one even knew they

811
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: were there in the first place. It's a really powerful thing.

812
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: I learned that when I first started surfing. If I'd

813
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: call my friend Steve and they say, I'll see it

814
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: at the bottom round at five point thirty, yeah, yep.

815
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: When the alarm went off, you'll be there to go.

816
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cozy. When my watch warning at five o'clock

817
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: this morning, I was like, I've got it. I have

818
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: to be able to tell how my trained today. Yeah,

819
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say, well.

820
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: Your tabata did come up on your iPad when we

821
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: were starting, so that was strategic, was it?

822
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: No? I just usually the accountable. I've got to be done,

823
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: pull an airport out. They got up earlier this morning.

824
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: They got off about quarter to seven, ten to seven,

825
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: so I was like, shut me the upstairs and then

826
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: get the breakfast going.

827
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny you work out to hear your kids laughing. Yeah,

828
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: that's what I do otherwise it's almost the end of workouts.

829
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it's twenty minutes, sometimes it's forty minutes. But

830
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I hear them, or they pop their head around the

831
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: corner and next thing they're hanging from a chin up

832
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: bar or oh yeah, you know, doing somemerselts around the home.

833
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: I've got it, Like, yeah, having a small kid who's

834
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: curious running around while you're swinging a couple of twenty

835
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: four kelo kettlebells around as bad. So I put everything

836
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: down over there, buddy, I know you want to give

837
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: it a go.

838
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: The tenacity to try and lift the twenty four kill

839
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: off the ground.

840
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: He lifted, told him how to do it. He lifted

841
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: his He lifted a sixteen He dead lifted a sixteen kilo,

842
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: which is half his body weight. It's like a show

843
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: how to do it, and like look like you're going

844
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: to do a pooh and hold your breath like.

845
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's about the safe pushed out. Yeah. Actually it's almost

846
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: the perfect technique. And the way they squad into the

847
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: deep perfect squad motion with the open hips, Like God,

848
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: when did I lose to do I just.

849
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Have a running back When I could run, I had

850
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: a coach, a running coach when I was doing all

851
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: those marathons, and she just said to me, it's like,

852
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: you want to know the perfect gate, the perfect running form.

853
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, go watch a playground of two year

854
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: olds just right.

855
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: They just effortlessly half of players with the dolls in

856
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: a deep squad for an hour without even you know,

857
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I'd have pins and needles, My hips would be cramping up.

858
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: It's just that's amazing.

859
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: All let's talk about working out, making me tad.

860
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I need a break break.

861
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: When it comes to online fitness, all right, Because there's

862
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 2: a thing with trainers. Okay, it's there's a lot of marketing.

863
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: There's a lot of this, that and the other, and

864
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: people make their margins in different ways. It's almost like,

865
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: if you're a trainer, you've got to have a rig

866
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: that says I can make you look like me, So

867
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: you're not selling have a rig like mine.

868
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: No, all right, About ninety eight percent of my members

869
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: of female right, it's interesting. Our community's even aged as

870
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I've aged. It's the relatability. It's how do you squeeze

871
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: workouts in as a busy parent? How do you eat

872
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: well as a busy parent? Yeah? How do you. You know,

873
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: you've got to have the empathy and understanding of what

874
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: that person's challenges are that might be very different to yours.

875
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: So I draw on all that experience of training all

876
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: of those different women over all of those years, and

877
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: then being able to relate all of those things that

878
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: I learned different two different people. Will so have seven

879
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: other trainers, of which most are female and menopause experts

880
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: and pregnancy experts and low impact workouts and you know,

881
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: stuff that sort of does cater for everybody to give

882
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: people that flexibility. But yeah, it's an interesting thing. I mean,

883
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to broke accountant. So I think most

884
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: people are appealed by a trainer who's in okay shape

885
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: and does look after themselves. I get that, and it

886
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: makes complete sense to me. You also don't want someone

887
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: that the only person that they've ever gotten in shape

888
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: is themselves, they're blessed with amazing genetics, they're twenty two,

889
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: or they're getting some assistance from some certain you know

890
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: things to even have that physeeque in the first place,

891
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: which is just rife on social media these days, and

892
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: you sort of go, it's really, you know, like I

893
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: want to be like you. So I'm going to hang

894
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: off every word you're saying, I'm going to give you

895
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: all this money. That that concerns me a little bit.

896
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there who don't have

897
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: qualifications or experience or empathy or understanding, and you know,

898
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: they're taking a lot of money off some people who

899
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: are crying out for help or some guidance. And it's

900
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: it's it is a bit of a concern. I mean,

901
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: it's not real this space I play in. I'm not

902
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: in the twenty odd six pack space. I'm in the

903
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: thirty plus. You know, look after yourself and have a

904
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: healthy life.

905
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Glad because for a thousand bucks a month, I can

906
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: sign you up to my video series how to watch

907
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: his eight pack, how to avoid being exploited by a

908
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: fitness online You've gone. That's the thousand dollars level. There's

909
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars level where I.

910
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: Was the gold the gold, there's platinum for one hundred

911
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars one off, fam.

912
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: I will FaceTime you and help you go through your options.

913
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: That's all right, but it's because I'm here for you,

914
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: that's right. That's there's a lot of that image throwing free.

915
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: Cryptology exactly exactly, no extra cost today only.

916
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are some things like if people are looking

917
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: for obviously they'd want to sign up to yours.

918
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: I think consumers are smart, mate, I think I think

919
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: people often underestimate how savvy the consumer is out there.

920
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: They are doing more homework, you know. I mean what

921
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: happened was COVID meant that every gym man, dog woman

922
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: brought out an online fitness program, you know, some from

923
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: a gym perspective for survival, which of course understand you know,

924
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: had the hybrid model or the at home model because

925
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: the doors weren't open. But it did mean that it

926
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: became a very very populated space very quickly, which is

927
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: good that people have got choice. But everyone makes the

928
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: same claims, you know, great workouts, great recipes, fantastic support,

929
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: and it's very hard to differentiate to what level that

930
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: is done at and who are you getting the advice from.

931
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: So my advice to people would just be just do

932
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: your homework, see the credentials behind the program, understand that

933
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: person's background, you know, look at the testimonials of the

934
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: people that are actually getting the results. You know, people

935
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: are cynical, like we getting credible results in our eight

936
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: week challenges and then people keep that weight off and

937
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: keep going for years on the program. But we do

938
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: get people going. Did that really? Is that real? Did

939
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: that really happen? I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I can connect

940
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: you in the Facebook group if you like to that person.

941
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: They can tell you their journey personally. Oh okay, that's

942
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: all I needed to hear. I wasn't just a you know,

943
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: I stock photo that you found in some transformation and words,

944
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: but it absolutely yeah, these are all genuine transformation.

945
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: Because they're speaking of as you mentioned, I did that,

946
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: did do that transformation thing, but yeah, I don't think

947
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: it was ten weeks and for the men's health, yeah yeah,

948
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: look my body can do that. Yeah, I'm not going to.

949
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Do it again. Man. I don't know many people the

950
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: six pack that are happy. And I mean that genuinely.

951
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Like I say that again, I don't know many people

952
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: with a six pack that are happy. I really I

953
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: just the amount they sacrifice, Like I mean shredded with

954
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: an inch of their life. I don't mean showing some

955
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: abs and just in lean pretty good shape. I mean

956
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: absolutely shredded.

957
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Low single digits.

958
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they just their self esteem lives in their

959
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: body and as they age or as you know, they mature,

960
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: it's a bit like I'm a bit one dimensional and

961
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: what else have I sort of got? And I say

962
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: no to the pizza or the beer or whatever, you know, whatever,

963
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: and I'm always restricting myself and I don't know, it

964
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: tends to be a bit limiting. Like most the happy

965
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: people I know are those that love the training for

966
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: the training, look after themselves. And there's obviously a huge

967
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: shift into social fitness out Instead of going to the pub,

968
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: you joined the running group. And I love saying that.

969
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: And it's your younger generation obsessed with the ice bars

970
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: and the sawners and the run groups and it's awesome.

971
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've I've trained with a lot of trainers

972
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: who have been in unbelievable nick but they don't have

973
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: much else going on outside of how good they looking

974
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: from the mirror. And when that starts to waiver, they

975
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, they often end up a bit miserable.

976
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 2: Man, I was weighing my olive oil.

977
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, say no more, yeah, and it changed. That

978
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: tells me everything I need to do right.

979
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: And I felt when I was eating at the table

980
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 2: with g and Audrey. I felt disconnected from those two.

981
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way, but I do like it.

982
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like it.

983
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: Because they end up doing nothing, like do you want

984
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: to go out? Not there? So they say no, you know,

985
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: I won't go to that birthday party. I won't go

986
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: to that dinner. Like all they do is hang out

987
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: with the other people with the boiled chicken breast and

988
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: the broccoli, and it's that's not a fun party, you know,

989
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: it's really not.

990
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: There was that line, I think it was. It was

991
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: on Batch in Paradise. I can't remember the name of her.

992
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: She was so good.

993
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: One of the boys walked in and she clocks him,

994
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: and she was, that's the man. He looks like he

995
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: weighs his.

996
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: Chicken boom.

997
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: Was That's the other thing. If you're dating a bloke

998
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: who looks like that, dinner is not fun. No.

999
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: They often dated up and date horrendos. I have been

1000
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: around not you, not.

1001
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: You, some of those bachelors, because you've got to have

1002
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: your shirt off all the time, like it's not it's

1003
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: not peak week, but you like, it's the chicken and training,

1004
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: that's it. And my god, being in a car sometimes

1005
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: or somemmer. I was like, what are you doing? I'm sorry, Bro,

1006
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1007
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: It's beans and chicken.

1008
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: We're doing the single date next week. It's at a pool.

1009
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: I know, I get it. I get it. People don't

1010
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: understand that part. Like my body looked like that for

1011
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: eighteen hours.

1012
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right?

1013
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: In fact better the next day after an eating I

1014
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: went out ahead. Oh bro, I was like, swow. And

1015
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: then it is funny, isn't it? But then I felt

1016
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: really because I've been kind of colorically weird for so long,

1017
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: it felt took long time to unders do it. If

1018
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: I was full again, so interesting the feeding it was weird,

1019
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: But these days it's a lot. I'll tell you about

1020
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: what I do. How do you like? You've got to

1021
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: do something? It's sustainable, right, So tell me about Like

1022
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: you mentioned your train early in the morning.

1023
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wait three times a week for forty minutes.

1024
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: So I walked ten thousand steps every day because I

1025
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: love walking. I used to love walking to a dog,

1026
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: but he's past us. All love the walking element. But

1027
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get a new dog. And I'll

1028
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: do maybe a little bit of mobility stuff and sauna

1029
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: three three nights a week because I'd find I sleep

1030
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: better and it's great for my mental health and that's

1031
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: pretty And then I'll buy a club with the kids

1032
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: or do whatever. But that's sort of it. I really

1033
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: make those forty minute sessions count. Like I push myself

1034
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: and I like lifting the weights, and I like seeing

1035
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: my strength go up, and I like the big full

1036
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: body movements. But I just think everyone over complicates it.

1037
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: I really do a lot of the time. I think

1038
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: this is just the technogym blokes trying to make more money.

1039
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you say it on social media. The guy

1040
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: on the standing on the Swiss ball with the cables,

1041
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? There was breaking neck.

1042
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: It's now my friend, the scientist Ruben Meherman, who I'm

1043
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: pretty sure we talked about this. Yeah, he's the guy

1044
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: that found out, you know, when I lost those ten

1045
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: killers where they went. He has this great line, it's

1046
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: very easy to out eat your exercise, but it's very

1047
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: hard to add exercise.

1048
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: You're reading, Yeah, I like that.

1049
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. He does a lot of this kind of kind

1050
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: of work with in the weight loss Place, weight loss space,

1051
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: and clinical stuff as well. When he's educating people in

1052
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: diabetes cliniciss like this. So you talked about the training

1053
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: that they can, you can that like two trips to

1054
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: a drive through everything you.

1055
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Just talked about. Yeah, I mean, I'm not. You just

1056
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: said you'd feel really disconnected with your family if you're

1057
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: ready to I'm the same. So whatever we eat as

1058
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: a family for dinner, we eat as a family. I'm

1059
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: usually at the twenty eight office for the other two

1060
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: meals of the day, so I control those a bit

1061
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: more independently. But you know, we we eat pretty well

1062
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: as a family, and we typically put the food in

1063
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: the middle of the table that the kids serve themselves.

1064
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: That was something that we sort of picked up along

1065
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: the way. I can't remember the lady's name who told

1066
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: me about that, but it really was a penny drop

1067
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: moment for me. Just you get rid of fussy eat

1068
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: of kids. They feel more involved in the whole eating

1069
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: experience by filling up their own plate. So we do

1070
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: that most nights. And there's protein and veggies and whatever

1071
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: else that might be this, and there's it's Macedonians. There's

1072
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: normally some cabs floating around, that's for sure. But ah, yeah,

1073
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't eat early. I eat breakfast about ten thirty

1074
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: and I lunch about two and then I'll have dinner.

1075
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: And I've got a real sweet too. So my biggest

1076
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: challenges post dinner, and it's boredom and its habit and

1077
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: it's a really enjoyable thing to do with snares and

1078
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: just sort of say fuck it, you know, so like

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00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: it's but it's yeah, that's typically if I'm gonna undo

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00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: the good exercising bit where it will happen in that

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Speaker 1: little window.

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Speaker 2: But as you mentioned before, cheesecake is delicious.

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Speaker 1: Man, if you're pretty good most of the time. I'm

1084
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: not trying to have a six back. I'm trying to

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00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: be lean ish, strong ish, healthy, you know, and just

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00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: just feel good in my body, like, you know, not

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00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: wake up with us all back, not injure myself. If

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00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to chase after the girls when they're learning

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Speaker 1: to ride a bike, you know, that's that's really my motivation.

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Speaker 2: And if you can, you don't want to have any

1091
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: negativity around training. And because the science is I just

1092
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: blew my mind. Like if I if I hate I

1093
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: hate fucking leg day, and so like if that's in

1094
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: your brain, I hate leg day, your brain gets to

1095
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: stress signals and goes, oh, we won't adapt, then we

1096
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: don't like this interesting. And then you don't adapt that

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: you actually don't get the benefit from the workout. And

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00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: so if you if it's shitty, then you're not going

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00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: to like it. So you have to like it. And

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Speaker 2: it's the same with food. If like I hate eating

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00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: like this, like what's life, then yeah.

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00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: The food's still delicious. I'm not I'm not burning a

1103
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: bald egg and binachleaf. Delicious beautiful food like just main

1104
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: good protein, good lots of veggies, slightly less trying to

1105
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: limit the process, crap in a packet and it's pretty simple.

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: Lots of water, protein shake every day. That's sort of it.

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Speaker 1: But I mean the thing with exercise, it's the same

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: as using exercise, the punishment, Like all of a sudden

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: you've got this such a poor association with exercise. It's like,

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, like we said bee beep test before it

1111
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: star break into a colored it.

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00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: Was an angry man with a mustache and above then

1113
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: Ea king jeans at a whistle yelling at me for

1114
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: being fat. I hated it exact same, I hate it.

1115
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: It was like all of you.

1116
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: Harry high pans ex body builder, tightest track suit ever.

1117
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: He had the red mustache and.

1118
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: Was the eighties. You could you could say, there's like,

1119
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: come on, even the fat ones like. He was like, thanks, sir.

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00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: I had to call him so too. I didn't like it.

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: Maybe not like exercise, Sam.

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, turns out I.

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Speaker 2: Ended up not working a thing that, as I mentioned before,

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: this would actually make me feel better than nearly everything else.

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Speaker 1: Exercise should be a celebration of what our body can do,

1126
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: not a punishment for what you didn't do.

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00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks it can look like something you

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: don't even think it is. Of course you mentioned walking alright,

1129
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: But we were at the Goaldie a couple of weeks

1130
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: back and we put Wolf in a weddy because just

1131
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: a bit more buoyancy and stuff like that. But I

1132
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: was just out there in the surf with a bogie

1133
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: board we got for a discount shop, and I was

1134
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: just pushing him into waves. And you know, Greenmountain is

1135
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: a huge sweep, right, so being out there for an

1136
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: hour holding a twenty five kilo boy and the thing

1137
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: against that rip of the current, Holy.

1138
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: My best, oh man.

1139
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: But exercise can look like that. Exercise If you build

1140
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: a big sand castle. Now you will hurt.

1141
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: They're the best.

1142
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: You don't need to go to the gym if you

1143
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: don't want.

1144
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: It's funny like most of summer, I've hardly worked out

1145
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: in the gym and my shape hasn't really changed. Just

1146
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: that incidental activity, bike riding, running, beach days with the kids.

1147
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: It's just bliss.

1148
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: So when the thing that's interesting about the community that

1149
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: you've built, you know, the community that you've put together.

1150
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: Have people talked about the effect because people they it's

1151
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: not selfish reason, but they like, I want to be

1152
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: better for myself. Do people talk about the flow and

1153
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: effect that has on the people around them?

1154
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and other aspects of their own life. And I

1155
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: do tell them it's okay to be selfish, because it's

1156
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: often mums. One of the things we say is you

1157
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: can't pour from an empty cup, so stop. You know,

1158
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: you do so much for everyone else but yourself, and

1159
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: you neglect yourself or you feel guilty if you're looking

1160
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: after number one, even if it's for an hour every

1161
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: couple of days, Heaven forbid, and they so they don't

1162
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: do it, and you've got to almost help them give

1163
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: themself permission to do that. And then when they do,

1164
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, guess what. Now you've got more energy, more patience.

1165
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: You're not detracting from the person you are around those

1166
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: that you love the most. You're adding to it. And

1167
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: most importantly, you're doing something for you which you need

1168
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, mums are the most selfless, amazing people,

1169
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: and we work with tens of thousands of them, and

1170
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: so many of them are like, I just I don't

1171
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: have time because I've got to do this and this

1172
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: and this for all these other people. And it's like, no, no,

1173
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: you've got to Actually, it's thirty minutes a day. You've

1174
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: got to make that time for yourself. And it's okay

1175
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: to be a bit selfish and stop apologizing, stop making excuses.

1176
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: You've got to do this. And when they finally do,

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, why didn't I do this earlier?

1178
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: As I like to put it, like, I've got to

1179
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: give my body the gift of the neurotransmitters, the hormones.

1180
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: I need to shift mood states throughout the day. All right,

1181
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Think someone cuts me off on the motorbike or whatever.

1182
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: If I haven't trained, that will annoy me and I'll

1183
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: still feel it in my body for a long time.

1184
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: But if I've trained, I'm like, man, it's so true,

1185
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: because I have the news the other day, we're having

1186
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: to get out, like for something. I was like, can

1187
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: I'd say fifteen minutes, just like yeah, As I went downstairs,

1188
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: hit the timer and just did single arm kettle bell

1189
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 2: swinging for ten minutes as many as I could.

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01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: That was it.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: I felt great for the rest of the day.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: It's like taking work back into the home with you

1193
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You know, like you

1194
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: just had a stressful phone call in the car and

1195
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: then bang your inside and you're still half on your phone,

1196
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: like yeah, I hate that shit.

1197
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: You can't do it.

1198
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Like if you've just if that's happened, you take a

1199
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: few deep breaths, leave your phone in your car for

1200
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: the next two hours, or put it on the charge

1201
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: of far away, and just just be present with the kids.

1202
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: If you're going to be half present and stressed out

1203
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: about that stuff, you better.

1204
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 2: I have not been at home, and whatever's on on

1205
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: that phone is not going to buy you no the time.

1206
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't care. You know, Jeff Bezos, I might be

1207
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: able to buy Vennis, but he can't buy He can't

1208
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: buy watching his kid figure that thing out on the

1209
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: bike for the first time. I don't care who you are,

1210
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: you're going to miss it and it doesn't it doesn't matter.

1211
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: You can always do that later.

1212
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm so glad you came around. It's good to

1213
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: see you.

1214
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

1215
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: I completed this out. Now I've got your wife first,

1216
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: and now.

1217
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: I know she did say it's quite rare that I'd

1218
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: go first. I'm like, I love that she gave him.

1219
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: It's great.

1220
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: But I'm so thrilled for you.

1221
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for everything. You've been such a good friend since

1222
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: day and it's nice to see you.

1223
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: That was Sam Wood. What a guy, What a wonderful

1224
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: human being. I have now collected by Sam and his

1225
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: beautiful wife's Nashana and twenty eight by Sam Wood. Is

1226
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: the app. It is his fitness platform. It is monumentally

1227
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 2: successful for all the reasons you discussed, and people who

1228
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: use that have fantastic results because, as he just mentioned,

1229
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: it's based in community and realistic outcomes, progress, not perfection,

1230
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that I love to hear about.

1231
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: And I'm very grateful he's helping so many people because

1232
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: he's just so good at it. There's a lot of

1233
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: people out there taking a lot of money from others

1234
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: in the fitness industry, and perhaps sometimes those people aren't

1235
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: getting what they pay for. But let me tell you,

1236
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: having worked out in his gym and having known the

1237
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: guy for a long time, Sam Wood is legit. He's

1238
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: bona fides are one hundred percent, and he is a

1239
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: cracking human being. And I couldn't be more grateful if

1240
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: you decided to come on the show today. Thanks so

1241
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: much for being a part of it. Thanks add a

1242
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: bunch of for producing this episode. I'll see you at

1243
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: story Club on the tenth of August. Make sure you

1244
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: get your book.

1245
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: So what now?

1246
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: What the link in the show notes if you want

1247
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: to get it. If you're listening to this before the

1248
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: fifth of August, you're going to be buying an expensive

1249
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: version of the book right after that day. But you

1250
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: can buy a cheap one right now the links and

1251
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: the show notes. And I'll see you at story Club

1252
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: on the tenth.

1253
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Chuck Us