WEBVTT - Rock bottom brought me to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Appogie Production. Hi, my name's beck Woodbine and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Tenderness for Nurses. Do you need to burn out to

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<v Speaker 1>have those insights?

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<v Speaker 2>While I'm talking about it now? But you know, came

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<v Speaker 2>to educate the world about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't want anyone to know that I was

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<v Speaker 1>so unwell. I don't know when it was ever okay

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<v Speaker 1>to yell or scream or abuse somebody. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>have support and know where to look for support, and

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<v Speaker 1>know how to look after ourselves, not just professionally, but

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<v Speaker 1>personally as well. It was quite profound and I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from that one action. Welcome everyone to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nurse practitioner with over thirty five years of

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<v Speaker 1>nursing experience, and in twenty sixteen, I became a nurse

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<v Speaker 1>practitioner in the cosmetic dematology space. I own a clinical

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<v Speaker 1>Perfectly Smooth where skin conditions focusing on acne, rosasia, pigmentation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I also perform cosmetic injectibles at an advanced level

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<v Speaker 1>with another doctor and another registered nurse. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the podcast is a little bit complex, and

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage I'll share some things and probably as

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<v Speaker 1>we progress through the podcast, I'll feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable to share more. But a few years ago

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<v Speaker 1>I started to develop very bad anxiety, burnout, and major depression,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't deal with it very well.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of things in my life go

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<v Speaker 1>on and within the business, you know, COVID daughter leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd hurt my back, had surgery that didn't go great.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a brief marriage breakdown which we worked through.

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<v Speaker 1>I just found I didn't take care of myself and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that as a nurse there wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of support for me either. I found it one stage

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<v Speaker 1>I was starting to drink too much, and I stopped drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I suppose my depression became worse and worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse. Hence why the Teninnists for Nurses with the

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<v Speaker 1>dog Lola came into my life when I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>really sick and has been a wonderful assistance dog. So

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<v Speaker 1>I decided that we as nurses and healthcare professionals need

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<v Speaker 1>to care for each other a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have support and know where to look for support, and

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<v Speaker 1>know how to look after ourselves, not just professionally, but

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<v Speaker 1>personally as well. And I decided that we needed a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast called Tennis for Nurses. Each week, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be speaking with someone related to health or just someone

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<v Speaker 1>of interest that can help us develop as nurses develop

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<v Speaker 1>as a profession and develop personally. There are times I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be quite vulnerable, and there are times I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to find things really difficult to talk about. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to shy away from the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had psychiatric problems and I hate the term psychiatric.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually sends shivers through me.

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<v Speaker 1>And how sad is it that in this day and

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<v Speaker 1>age you say a word like that and it still

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<v Speaker 1>has all these connotations. I think if I had had

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more support in going through what I

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<v Speaker 1>had been through, things mightn't have got as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>it did when things were really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had had.

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<v Speaker 1>Some professional support around what I was going through, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the outcome may have been a little different. But

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<v Speaker 1>down the track we'll chat about that. So, as part

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<v Speaker 1>of my recovery, I had TMS, which is transmagnetic cranial sequencing,

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<v Speaker 1>which at some stage we will talk about with some

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<v Speaker 1>professionals in that area. And I was reading through the

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<v Speaker 1>information and the word psychiatric came up on the information

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<v Speaker 1>sheet and I had a visceral response to it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you know I've got a psychiatric disorder me

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<v Speaker 1>as a nurse, being empathetic working in the healthcare space.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have a response like that to a psychiatric concern,

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<v Speaker 1>what do the general public think? And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>has these really old connotations about mental health institutions and

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<v Speaker 1>crazy women or housewives that can't co people on meth

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<v Speaker 1>or homelessness. And I hate the fact that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>that way because so many people go through, at some

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<v Speaker 1>stage or another in their life some form of psychiatric illness,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that be anxiety, depression, major depression PTSD. There are

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<v Speaker 1>now areas and once again we will be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this psychological safety, moral injury. It is so all encompassing

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<v Speaker 1>in our day to day life and with social media

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<v Speaker 1>and with expectations and the lifestyles we all live.

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<v Speaker 2>And here I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am, as a nurse practitioner, quaking at the term psychiatric.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to address some of that and

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<v Speaker 1>take away the shame that is around that, and I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel shame that I wasn't strong enough to cope

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<v Speaker 1>with issues that were in front of me. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they say, how much can a koala bear?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you have so much stuff going on

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<v Speaker 1>at once and you don't look after yourself, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a breaking point for people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>reached mine.

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<v Speaker 2>A few years ago. I just have this really.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong need to not share all my experiences, although probably will,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to help other nurses navigate what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>out there, navigate pra navigate the nursing MIDWI reboard, navigate legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health, their own personal health, good diet, sleep, moral injury.

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<v Speaker 1>That has absolutely taken me by storm trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that concept, which I think affects all health practitioners. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that this podcast is going to be really positive

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<v Speaker 1>for other nurses in showing them avenues.

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<v Speaker 2>Of how to look after themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if they are in trouble, where they can go

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<v Speaker 1>who they can see that there are people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that absolutely have their back. I really want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the nursing profession step up and help each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>historically there has been vertical and horizontal violence in nursing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I went through this, So therefore, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a good nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Through what I went through. I disagree with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think we all need to start sticking up for

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<v Speaker 1>each other a little bit more and stepping into our professionalism.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe that nurses are a huge independent entity

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<v Speaker 1>in the healthcare space. We have one of the largest

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<v Speaker 1>workforces in the country, and we have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>offer research wise, healthcare wise, our knowledge, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Tenderness for Nurses is going to incorporate all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I'm hoping I'm going to learn a heap

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing things and speak to some amazing people. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking about ethics and boundaries. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very important thing in this day and age. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about drug and alcohol and if

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<v Speaker 1>you are having problems with drugs and alcohol, the pathway

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<v Speaker 1>for nurses where we can go to seek help. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about workplace safety leadership. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about other avenues nurses can go

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<v Speaker 1>once they've done nursing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like public health. We've got a professor.

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<v Speaker 1>From America talking about health intelligence with public health and

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<v Speaker 1>going down the intel space public health space. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many avenues in nursing, and we just need to start

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating a little bit more, supporting each other and giving

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<v Speaker 1>strength to our profession. We are about a vacating for

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<v Speaker 1>nurses and their health, and also about how we treat

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<v Speaker 1>each other and proudly speak about our profession and tenderness

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<v Speaker 1>for nurses is about all of that. I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>you all get something out of this. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a blame podcast. It's purely going to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are issues. Let's work out ways that we can

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<v Speaker 1>improve the profession because it's a profession to be proud of,

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<v Speaker 1>and after thirty five years of nursing, I'm still really

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be a nurse. I started nursing back in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight. I was in eighty eight B at

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<v Speaker 1>PA Hospital, and I've got to say I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>The old hospital there was amazing. We all worked super

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<v Speaker 1>hard together, we partied hard, and we worked hard. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there were parts of it that were exceptionally confronting, especially

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<v Speaker 1>for a young country girl who was very, very innocent

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<v Speaker 1>and had gone to boarding school. The first ward I

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<v Speaker 1>was put on was M two, which was general medical.

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<v Speaker 1>All the leftover patients went there. We would have people

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<v Speaker 1>dying on that ward all the time. So at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of seventeen, if you were looking after six beds

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever that was in your area and someone passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to lay that body out, which means you

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<v Speaker 1>had to prepare that body to be taken to the morgue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite a confronting experience. It's funny because you developed

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<v Speaker 1>little well, I did little routines and so back then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could open the windows at the LPA.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to open a window to let the soul

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<v Speaker 1>get out. I would always say a little prayer over

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<v Speaker 1>the body. And it's funny because when I then worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the mart Mums, every baby that was born would

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a little routine I had. I would always

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<v Speaker 1>say a prayer for that baby that came into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I then went worked in palliative care and

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<v Speaker 1>once again, you know, say little prayer when the person

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<v Speaker 1>passed away because we couldn't open up the windows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted that soul to be sent away

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<v Speaker 1>in a good manner and very respectfully. So Nursing is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those amazing professions where I always felt I

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<v Speaker 1>was so privileged to be there at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>life and so privileged to be at the end of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I found it more traumatic nursing the prisoners at PA

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<v Speaker 1>when I was very young and very naive, and the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they in the prison guards used to say

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<v Speaker 1>to us in the wards, very inappropriate to a young

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<v Speaker 1>female and making lude comments in innuendo and coming up

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<v Speaker 1>into bed with me, I'll let me patch your ass

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<v Speaker 1>or I tried to avoid that as much as I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I always preferred nursing women over men, nurse in a

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<v Speaker 1>little uniform, and that was what it was like back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. It took eighteen months to become a

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<v Speaker 1>registered nurse and I got my degree. It was still

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<v Speaker 1>fairly new getting degrees in nursing, and I was very

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<v Speaker 1>lucky I was still working in a nursing home and

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<v Speaker 1>in hospitals as an enrolled nurse, paying my way through

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<v Speaker 1>university in Timber. I then came down because I always

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<v Speaker 1>loved the operating theaters when I was at PA, and

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<v Speaker 1>got a postgraduate year at St. Andrew's Hospital, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just doing you scrubbing and scouting, I also did anesthetics

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<v Speaker 1>and recovery, which I loved. Within that space, I focused

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<v Speaker 1>and specialized in eyes, plastics and women's health Guianian Fertility,

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<v Speaker 1>which I really loved.

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<v Speaker 2>So I then went.

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<v Speaker 1>Across and worked at Queensland Fertility Group for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years and did all areas there, so admissions, anesthetics, scrubbing,

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<v Speaker 1>scouting and recovery. And then I had the kids. So

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<v Speaker 1>during that time when I had the kids, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>would work night duties for an agency or lates and

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<v Speaker 1>I would go work at the different hospitals, doing like

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<v Speaker 1>a four to nine, four to ten shift. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>would come home I'd had him the kids, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go off to work. I also did some aged care

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<v Speaker 1>work and palliative care work at Winham Hospital. I then

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<v Speaker 1>went back when the kids are a bit older and

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<v Speaker 1>did a few years at the Marta Marta Mothers and

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the theaters there and in the recovery and

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<v Speaker 1>HDU there, which I really enjoyed it and loved. During

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<v Speaker 1>that time, I started to notice there were some nurses

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<v Speaker 1>that just worked so much harder they wouldn't sit down,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all got paid the same. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>when I started to look at starting my own business

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<v Speaker 1>and I bought a little spray tanning business. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>yellow orange and there was just one color. But it

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<v Speaker 1>turned out to be the start of me working my

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<v Speaker 1>way into the cosmetic dermatology arena. I realized that spray

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<v Speaker 1>tanning day and day out was as boring as batshit, really,

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<v Speaker 1>so I bought a laser machine and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>write a business report for my husband and for the

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<v Speaker 1>bank to show that I could make the income, because

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<v Speaker 1>back then it was hugely expensive to buy a machine.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started to teach myself skin. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>every conference I could, and I really got into that

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<v Speaker 1>dermatology space, doing lots and lots of pigmentation, hair removal,

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<v Speaker 1>acnee roseasha, and people kept asking me about injectables and

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<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't interested in doing that. I really liked

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<v Speaker 1>treating skin. But things just progressed and it got to

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<v Speaker 1>the stage where I was still doing two night duties

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<v Speaker 1>a week palliative care and my business was really taking off.

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<v Speaker 1>So I made the decision to stop and work full

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<v Speaker 1>time in the business, which was terrifying because I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that extra income coming in every week. I

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<v Speaker 1>set up the business perfectly smooth, and what fifteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years on it's still going strong. I have a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>another registered nurse. I have two demal therapists and some

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<v Speaker 1>receptionists that work for me. It's a busy little practice

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<v Speaker 1>and I specialize in advanced cosmetic procedures, roseatia, acne, lasers, pigmentation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do lots of dermal filler and I have

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<v Speaker 1>also trained for galderma.

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<v Speaker 2>I have taught at Torrens.

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<v Speaker 1>University in the esthetic space. I have helped write the

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<v Speaker 1>program for the UK for their diploma in injectables. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I became unwell. I was burnt out, ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with major depression, anxiety, and I had to take some

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<v Speaker 1>time out. I was quite unwell. The aesthetic space I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in it really is a little bit of doggy dog

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<v Speaker 1>in that anyone that stands out, it's nice to chop

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<v Speaker 1>them down. Want anyone to know that I was so unwell,

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<v Speaker 1>I just told everyone I was taking a step back

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<v Speaker 1>to work on the business. Took some time out, forced

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<v Speaker 1>time out, and there was just nothing to support me

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<v Speaker 1>as a nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>I was too afraid, ashamed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to colleagues because historically nurses eat their own and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be cheered up and spat out

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<v Speaker 1>and gossiped about. It was a really scary time. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was during that time I did a course on

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries and ethics with Dr Wendy Macintosh. I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to do some study in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>she is amazing. We were talking about tenderness and tenderness

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<v Speaker 1>towards self, tenderness towards others, and it's really not a

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<v Speaker 1>very recent searched area. Something just twigged and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast has just fallen into place from there in

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<v Speaker 1>that we really need to start looking out for each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to know where to go, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to stop shaming each other when things go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a profession that's meant to be full of

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<v Speaker 1>empathy and consideration for other people, I really think that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes nurses don't look out for each other. I think

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<v Speaker 1>as a profession we really need to.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the aim of.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is to give you, guys all some strategies

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<v Speaker 1>on how to look after yourselves, strategies and how to

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<v Speaker 1>look after each other, some avenues. If you have any

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<v Speaker 1>worries or concerns, where to go or contact us here

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<v Speaker 1>and we can put you in touch with the right

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<v Speaker 1>people how to be empathetic towards ourselves and towards each other,

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<v Speaker 1>not just our patients. So I hope you will get

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<v Speaker 1>something out of this. I'm not perfect, and the people

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<v Speaker 1>that come on aren't. There's going to be some very

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable conversations. I just hope you guys will support it, listen, share,

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<v Speaker 1>and give us feedback as to things you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear or talk about or know more about, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll investigated and see where it goes.