WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 19 June 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:08.000 Lately. General, welcome the Late Debate. Thanks for joining us 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:08.719 on the Late Debate. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.959 I'm James Macpherson with Freya Leitch and filling in for 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.360 kayleb Bond. It's his birthday today, so he's out celebrating 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.960 his Caroline Marcus coming up tonight. Flight attendants are always 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.440 very well groomed, But what about. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:22.160 Their red lipstick. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.159 Apparently that's nothing to do with grooming and everything to 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.240 do with safety. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.160 We'll explain that a little later. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.000 Plus, when we look at the papers, the world first 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.920 social media ban for under sixteen's is set to go 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.400 ahead after successful trials or were they? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.200 And a woman left to. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:43.919 Die after an argument between paramedics and police over who 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.879 should attend to her first meant she was alone for 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.519 five hours and deceased by the time anybody got there. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.600 Will get to all of that when we look at 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.520 tomorrow's headlines. But first breaking news tonight, with the Victorian 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.280 Liberal Party agreeing to loan one point five million dollars 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.480 to four lead at John Pursuto so he can pay 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:07.119 more Redeeming's legal fees and avoid bankruptcy. It also helps, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.600 of course, the Victoria and Liberals avoid a by election 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.440 The decision was made about an hour ago by the 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.320 party's nineteen member Administrative Committee, and some of the conditions 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.600 for this one point five million dollar loan include John 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.520 Pursuto offering up his superannuation as collateral, John Persudo committing 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.360 to engage in fundraising efforts to help pay the loan 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.600 back faster, and John Pursudo being charged an interest rate 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.039 of about six percent. So does this put an end 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.440 to the John Pursudo more redeeming episode or is this 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.880 set to drag on and become a continual weight around 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.720 the Victoria and Liberals neck Frayer. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.000 Well, I can see why they bailed him out with 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.440 this loan, because it's good politics for them. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.040 They get to avoid a by election. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.160 His seat, Hawthorne, is on a one point seven percent margin, 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.280 and to have the entire country's attention turn on a 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.920 by election right now would just strap from the broader 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.840 Victorian Liberal Party's mission of actually changing the government for 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.280 the first time in a long time. So I see 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.760 why they did it, but it's still a bad principle. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.960 This didn't have to happen. Perzuto had many opportunities to 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.960 de escalate the situation, including a last minute deal offered 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:24.480 to him a couple weeks ago by deeming to avoid bankruptcy. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.680 So I don't think this sets a good precedent. And 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.320 I think the funniest part of this deal is the 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.240 financial It's really like an investment fund that's linked to 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.320 the Victorian Liberal Party. They describe this as a good 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:42.000 investment because he's paying six percent interest. Nothing about this 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.520 saga has been a good investment for the Victorian Liberal Party. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.840 What do you reckon, Caroline, Well. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.880 They had to do something, and kind of maybe it 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.240 will end this chapter, but let us never forget what 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.640 led to this in the first place. More redeeming was 0:02:55.680 --> 0:03:00.280 simply speaking at an event to support women's biological call 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.480 sex based rights. And the first problem was John Pursuito 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:10.200 smearing her as a Nazi because some masked, black clothed 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.680 neo Nazis who'd like to hang out in their mother's 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.799 basements decided to gat. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.360 Crash the event, she somehow gets smeared with it. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.120 So that was that was where the problem started. And then, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.400 as Freyer pointed out, he didn't back down. He had 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.840 plenty of opportunities to do so. I mean, when the 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.840 matter was presented to him. He should have just settled 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.320 at that stage instead of dragging it to court and 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:38.160 putting himself and his party at such financial risks. So 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.240 I would be glad to see the end of awarding 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:42.200 poor leadership. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.440 I mean, for him to label more Redeeming a Nazi 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.040 because he was essentially afraid of that Nazi sympathizer Sambasizer 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.640 was poor leadership. And he's also being rewarded for poor 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.720 judgment for him to not have taken an earlier offer 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.520 at one point it was ninety nine thousand dollars and 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.840 make it all go away. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.000 He was ending up paying what two point three. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.560 Million dollars and he's a lawyer, and so this has 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.680 just been an epic failure of judgment. And what does 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.720 it say to Moira Deeming that the Liberal Party would 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.600 back John Pursuito after he put her through all of that. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.120 I mean as little as a week ago, she was 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.919 making an offer to him which was essentially based on 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.520 five conditions, the main one probably being guarantee my pre selection, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.440 which is probably the least that she deserves after being 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.640 put through the ordeal that she has, and he said 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.400 no to that. Instead, he wanted her to wipe out 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.719 a million dollars off his debt to her her legal costs, which, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.600 let's face it, who's going to do that? 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:39.800 So there you go. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.840 The Victorian liberals can finally move on. Maybe let's talk 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.560 about what's happening in the Middle East. Australians trying to 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.400 flee the war in Israel slammed the Albanezy governments evacuation 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:55.040 plans as shambolic. There are hundreds of assies in the 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.560 Holy Land desperate to get out, and this is what 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.440 they were provided with by Defat. Defect sent emails at 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 ten thirty five am in the morning advising Australians a 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.960 bus would be leaving in fifty five minutes from Tel Aviv. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.400 Get there for how long does it take you to 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:11.239 get ready in the morning? 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.560 Oh, okay, minutes, probably forty five minutes. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:17.240 Got to get there. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.720 You've got to organize everything one hundred percent. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.839 And you think about these people, right, they're in the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.719 middle of a war zone. There are sirens going off 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.719 frequently and at unpredictable times. Tel Aviv as well, I 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.880 guess less so during a war, but it is notorious 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.800 for its traffic. So the idea that you can be 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.920 in a war zone and with fifty five minutes notice. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.440 Pack shower, get ready and get. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.200 To the other side of the city potentially, or even 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.000 to another city is ludicris I don't know who thought 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.080 this was a good idea. And the other reason it 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.920 makes absolutely no sense is it's not as though they 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.599 were driving these people to get on a plane. They 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.920 were just driving them to the border with Jordan, where 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.200 they would still have to attempt to get on a plane. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.960 So if you leave in five minutes or an hour 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.120 and fifty five minutes, it doesn't make any difference. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:09.960 You wouldn't have thought. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.520 So here's plenty wrong explaining they had a very small 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.560 window and they took the opportunity. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.320 We will provide information to people in Israel when we 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:25.000 have the opportunity. Obviously it's a very fluid situation. We 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.240 had a small window yesterday, so we took that opportunity 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.560 to move a small group. I am at the department 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.480 and is working on trying to assist more people over 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.640 the next twenty four Hours'd. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.279 Be pretty frustrating if you're an Aussie and you're getting 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.000 that kind of assistance, But I've got to be honest, Caroline, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.520 if you go to Israel as we have. You know, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.080 you're going to a country which at any moment could 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.360 combust with war breaking out. I think it's a bit 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.640 rich to get angry at the Australian government for not 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.560 looking after you. You knew very well when you went 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.719 there that this was a very real possibility. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.760 Well, I don't think that anyone necessarily expected Israel to 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:08.200 start attacking a run this week. In the past week. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.360 I mean, some people were saying even the US administration 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.640 didn't know, which we all find that hard to believe, 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.520 especially after recent events. So I don't think that's particularly fair. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.720 I mean, and in fairness, over the entire seventy year 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.160 history or so of Israel, it's never It's always been 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.000 a country that could erupt at any time, you know, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:29.800 which is your point. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.520 And there's always terrorist attacks. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.440 If you're going to visit, there always comes something of 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:34.960 a risk. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.560 But and I do encourage people to visit. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.880 I mean, I haven't gone since October seven because I've 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:41.640 got two little kids at home and I can't in 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.400 good conscious as much as I'd like to see for myself, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.679 especially as a journal a journalist, especially as someone whose 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.160 family has had come from Israel some. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:51.880 Of my family. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.360 I really would love to go back, but I don't 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.960 want to take that risk right now. Having said that, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.720 I think that if I was there, I would have 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.480 my bags packed. I'd be ready to go at any moment, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.440 because you aren't now in a war zone, and if 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.880 your a country can evacuate you, fifty five minutes is 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.480 not a lot of time. Israel is a very small 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.000 country geographically. You want to be ready to go at 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 any point. So people who say, well, we didn't have 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.080 time to pack, we didn't have time to shower, we 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.920 didn't have time to say good I just get out 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.560 of there. Just take the opportunity. But it does remind 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.480 me of the swim club that my kids used to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.120 go to, very very poor conduct there, and they would 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.640 send an email on the morning half an hour before 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.960 some classes. Babies poot in the pool, don't come, it's 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.440 classes are off, and we'd turn up and they'd be like, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.000 we send. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.080 You an email half an hour ago. I'm like, thanks 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.080 very much. I didn't even see the email. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.480 I think most of those people are now working for Deepail. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.400 I was in Israel about eight years ago and I 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.760 was talking to the tour guide and I remarked that 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.680 I've been to New York, I've been to London. I 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.040 never felt so safe as walking through the streets of 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.840 Jerusalem in the wee hours of the morning. And he 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.800 said to me, James, you're never going to get mugged 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.880 in Jerusalem, You're never going to get beaten up. You 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.880 might get blown up by a bomb. And we both laughed, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.360 but we laughed because we understood it's kinda true. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.640 So I think people know when they go there that's 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:16.040 the risk. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.880 But when defat pool stunts like that, it does make 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.559 you wonder, seriously, who's organizing this circuit. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.840 Yeah, it definitely is always a risk you take, but 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.760 I think it's more just the incompetence of our government. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.160 It's frustrated and how can they get three thousand people, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.000 nearly three thousand from Gaza on visitor visas here in 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.920 next to no time and they can't save Australians who 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.679 are in a democratic country and. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.480 In a war zone. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.920 They didn't know what was going to erupt exactly. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:50.800 And so while Pennywong has been solving potential global conflicts 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.120 by calling for de escalation and diplomacy, one of her 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.199 fellow cabinet ministers. Chris Bowen, who you know, when he's 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:04.600 not destroying our country's energy system, is making other foolish remarks. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.760 This time he appeared in an. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.880 Interview and he went further than Albanezi and Wong and 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.680 he said Israel had done stuff in the last couple 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.280 of weeks that we don't agree with. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.080 What stuff like? That's what I want to know. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.360 And this is the problem right when politicians, but specifically 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.400 labor in relation to this conflict, talk about the general 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.560 concerns they have with Israel, there were just things that 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.640 we just don't agree with. It's like, well, point to 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.560 what they asked specifically, instead of just trying to taint 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.240 Israel with this broad brush of disapproval. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:43.640 Check out what he said. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.280 The Prime Minister and the FOREGM minists have been very 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.040 clear about our views that we don't agree with some 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.040 of the activities of Israel over recent weeks and months. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:53.280 Now. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.480 Of course, the. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.560 Prime Minister and Foreign minist all back so the statements 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.120 that's the situation unfolds. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.000 We've also made our view clear about what Iran needs 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.120 to do in this circumstance. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.840 Now, So what things in the last couple of weeks 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.480 as they're taking out Iran's nuclear facilities. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.000 Tell us Chris Bowen, I'm waiting. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.560 Iran's ambassador asked, Chris Bowen, will you condemn Israel's preemptive 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.240 strikes on our country? The right response would be to 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.319 have fallen on the floor and burst into hysterical laughter, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.720 as if you are going to condemn Israel for taking 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.960 out nuclear facilities which have been used for years to 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.839 threaten wiping Israel from the map. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.120 And for Chris Bowen to. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.360 Say, well, we're not going to condemn them, but I've 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.559 got to say we have been very unimpressed with Israel 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:36.800 for a long time. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.440 Beggars belief, Zero moral clarity. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.880 Is it because his own seat is eleven and a 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.680 half percent Muslim and he doesn't want to offend his 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:49.440 local constituency. You suppose that is probably what's going on here. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.880 But for him to be more concerned seemingly about his 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.160 little electoral seat in the margin he's got, rather than 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.959 what is right and what is moral just beggars belief. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.839 But it's entirely consistent with the rest of the party, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.280 is I mean, look at Tony Burke who also has 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:09.520 and Jason Clair, who also have very high proportions of 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.320 Muslim Australians who certainly do not sympathize on the whole 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.840 with Israel in this scenario and especially when it comes 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.240 to the conflict in Gasa. But how can you be 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.800 so morally bankrupt you talk about moral clarity, I'd say 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.640 he is entirely morally bankrupt, as is Penny Wong on 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.680 this issue, as Albanezi has been at large to actually 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.920 seem to side with the mad Mullers who are on 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.239 the verge of getting nuclear weapons, rather than a democratic 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:44.040 nation that is trying to survive, like is facing an 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.080 existential threat from people who do not. Why do they 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.600 keep talking about going back to negotiations? Zany Wong keeps 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:56.480 saying urging restraint, drawing equivalents between Israel and Iran as 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:01.320 if there is any it's just entirely the wrong way 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:02.360 around this goverment has. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.480 It reminds me of this iconic scene from one of 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.160 my favorite movies of all time, The Dictator by the 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.320 incredibly genius Jewish comedian Sasha Baron Cohen. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.120 This is exactly what it is. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:23.160 We are two months away from enriching weapons great uranium 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:37.439 to be used for peaceful purposes. It will be used 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.880 only for medical research and clean energy. It will, it 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:48.600 will and will certainly never be used to attack is oh. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:54.040 Boy, medical research and clean energy. Oh wait, but Bowen 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.240 doesn't like no read that losing on all fronts here. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.800 Saw that he thought it was a documentary. So there 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.120 you go. That's about where the labor party are at. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.440 Speaking of bad takes, let's talk about will Be Goldberg 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.839 for a moment. Remember with be Goldberg she went from 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.520 starring in the Ghost to ghosting logic and reason on 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:14.240 the view. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:15.000 I want to show you. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.080 In exchange that just took place where she was talking 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.840 with one of her co hosts about what's happening in Iran, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.440 and her co host made the point that Iran is 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.120 a terrible place. The human rights violations are shocking. I 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.520 mean they throw gaze from rooftops. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:30.840 And here's what. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.440 Happened the year twenty twenty five, new notheans is nothing 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.640 like if I stepped foot wearing that younger inter us. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:38.480 I'm sorry. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.160 I mean I can't have my hair. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.720 Showing, I can't wear a skirt, I can't have my 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.800 It's very different live in the night seats in twenty 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:46.480 twenty five than. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.280 It is to live in An. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.920 You're blind for everybody, not every black guys go go. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.600 To Kuran and you know, let me tell you about 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.080 being in this country. This is the greatest country in 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.440 the world. But yeah, I know that, we know that, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:05.120 and we all know that. But every day we are worried. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.920 Do we have to be worried about our kids? Are 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.160 the our kids going to get shot because they're running 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:11.640 through somebody's neighbor? 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.520 Tell you what my dream is to become a millionaire victim, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.000 just like will Be Goldberg. The fact that she can 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.400 go on television and sprout nonsense like that, free of 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.280 persecution or anything else that's going to come her way 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.520 is evidence America is the freest country on earth, far 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.120 different to Iran. And for her to say, yeah, I 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.520 know Iran's bad, but what about black people in the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:36.440 United States? 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.720 Is she is a perpetual victim, isn't she? And to 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:45.920 try and draw any sort of similarity or equivalence between 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.680 the Iran's human rights abuse is the fact that literally 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:56.320 plucks women off the street and disappears them and executes them. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.400 For showing their hair is extraordinary. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.480 But she is someone who has a record of not 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.600 knowing her history on this stuff and trying to minimize 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.760 the suffering of other people's and races. 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.480 Take a look at what she said. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.160 Back in twenty twenty two when she was speaking about 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.320 the Holocaust. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.800 The Holocaust isn't about race. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.720 No, it's not about racey. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.280 Yeah, it's about a different race. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.280 But it's not about race. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:32.800 It's not about because it's about man's inhumanity to man. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:34.880 That's what it's about. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.080 Let's put aside the fact that someone's obviously been hitting 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.760 the ozempic pretty hard in. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:41.800 The past few years. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.400 Sorry, but I think it's unavoidable there. I think there's 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.560 a common element here, guys. She seems to not think 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:54.080 that these places that have a real hatred towards Jews 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.800 and anti Semitism. It's like she's trying to minimize that 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.200 in what she's talking about, whether it's radical Islam or 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.360 on the far right in the Nazi Germany. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.280 It's because like so many on the left, who they 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.600 have this cultural Marxist framework where everyone can be divided 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.439 into either being an oppressed person or an oppressor, and 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.199 all white people are put in the oppressor category, and 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:22.280 in her view, Jews are too white to be oppressed. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.560 They are too white to be victims of anti semitism. Therefore, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.320 the Holocaust really can't be about racism, because how can 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.280 you be racist against white people. That is the logic 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.040 in these people's minds, and that's why the left consistently 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.480 does not take anti semitism seriously, because they don't see 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.200 white people or Jews. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:41.280 Well, they see Jews. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.040 As white people, and they don't think white people could 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.720 ever be discriminated. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.320 Or in the hierarchy of oppression, Black people, to her 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.720 are always going to be the most impressed, even though 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.600 people in Iran have been living under the worst types 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.800 of oppression for decades since the revolution. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.560 Exactly, will let's stay with bad takes will stay in 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.439 America because it is a good place to get bad takes. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.040 Obama had a shocking take today. He was speaking at 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.679 a charity event in Connecticut, and he told the crowd 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:12.119 that America was dangerously close to becoming an autocracy. His 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.920 evidence for this is that when leaders take the oath 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.600 of office, they need to take it seriously, and when 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.840 that's not happening, America is on the verge of going 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.159 off a cliff. He said, we're not there yet completely, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.280 but I think that we are dangerously close to normalizing 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.040 behavior like that as in autocracy, and we need people 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.720 both outside government and inside government saying let's not go 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:35.800 over that cliff. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.919 Because it's hard to recover. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.439 It's hard for me to believe that's not very, very 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.919 close to incitement. What he's saying is that Donald Trump 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.800 is breaking his presidential oath, he's acting illegally, he's obtaining 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.760 power he ought not to become an authoritarian, and we 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.359 are this close to losing our democracy. Isn't this the 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.680 sort of stuff that was being said in the lead 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.520 up not one, but two assassination attempts against Donald Trump. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.880 You would have thought the left would have learned their. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.080 Lesson and dialed it down, particularly after the fact we 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.000 just had a politician assassinated just a matter of days ago. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.720 For Obama, a former president who's meant to be graciously quiet, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.080 but of course Obama is unique when it comes to 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.000 former presidents. Instead of disappearing quietly, he stayed in Washington, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.000 d C. Where he's enjoyed a third term. If you 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.800 want to talk about American democracy being trashed, for him 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.879 to speak like this is just winding up people to 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.280 create not just more social disharmony, but more danger for 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.160 all politicians when he goes on with nonsense like. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.879 That, and his rallying cry to the progressives to take 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.680 back America was he said, you could be as progressive 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.760 and socially conscious as you wanted, and you didn't have 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:54.600 to pay a price. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.040 He said, you could still make a lot of money. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.280 You could still hang out in Aspen and Milan and 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.640 and have a house in the Hampton's and still think. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:03.880 Of yourself as a progressive. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.199 But we now have a situation in which all of 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.439 us are going to be tested in some way, and 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.920 we're going to have to decide what our commitments will be. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:13.439 Now things are a little different. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:20.720 Might my Hampton's house, you might lose some of your donors. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.560 If you university, if you're a law firm, your billings 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.720 might drop a little bit. But this is the kicker, 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.080 which means you cannot remodel that kitchen in your Hampton's 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:30.920 house this summer. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.639 Like how out of touch is this guy? 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.080 And this is the fundamental problem in American politics. They 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.679