WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 14 August 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:02.320 Lewens General. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.439 Welcome to the Late Debate. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:09.840 It's great to have your company on the Late Debate. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.120 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.000 Coming up. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.840 A cafe introduces Seagull insurance for Dina's worried about having 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.040 their food stolen. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:21.319 We'll get to that a bit later. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.360 Plus we'll look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:28.320 The Australians featuring a story on Peter Dutton who's calling 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:33.040 for arrivals from Gaza to be banned, and football legend 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.920 in Melbourne runs for the job of mayor. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.280 We'll get to all of that a bit later. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.680 Let's start tonight with a story about a bunch of 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.720 bureaucrats who clearly have never worked with children and one 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.920 miserable parent who should be ashamed. A primary school lollipop 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.960 man has been banned from high fiving kids over concerns 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:56.120 about child safety. Mount Dandenong Primary School crossing supervisor John 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.760 Gooden has been high fiving kids for the past six years, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.440 but the council have told him to cut it out 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.559 because it's inappropriate. Next they'll be introducing a happiness tax. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.679 Have a look what's your favorite thing? Normally about coming 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:12.800 across the crossing. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.040 Plug came and get their first half five done. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.480 For six years, John Gordon has been a crossing supervisor, 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.039 always welcoming students to Mount dwand in On Primary with 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.199 his signature greeting. Until last week. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.560 He's always high five us from like prepped all the 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.399 way to grade six and Navety can't. It's kind of 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.440 a hello. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.880 I like that kid. She summed it up well. Now, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.160 one hundred and fifty. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.480 Teachers and parents have rallied around their lollipop man and 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.160 organized a petition demanding that he'd be allowed to high 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.160 five kids again. The parent who organized the petition, Rowan Bradley, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.200 told local media, when we roll down the window of 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.480 our car to give John a high five, the lollipop man, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.920 that's John, he said. I'm not allowed to give kids 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.400 a high five anymore, or call anyone love or sweetheart. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.160 I'm in trouble for being too friendly. The parent went 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.800 on to say, I felt really distressed because I saw 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.880 the look on my daughter's face immediately when I got home. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.200 I created an online petition to gauge other parents' support 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.800 to bring back the high five. Liz, I agree with 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.639 this petition. They should bring back the high five. Maybe, if, maybe, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.160 if he did a high five with a welcome to country, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.120 then Counsel would be okay about it. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.320 Indeed, Ron Bradley actually goes on to say that he 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.400 wanted to start this petition because he wanted to show 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.000 his daughter how to. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.840 Stand up for what is right. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.520 He's quoted as saying, I saw this as an opportunity 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.280 to teach my daughter it's important to stand up for 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.880 what is right. John brings love and joy to everyone. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.200 He puts so much extra effort into his job. The 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:54.000 ban feels like an injustice to the community and I 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.160 loved on three too. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.120 W Today a caller called in and revealed. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.440 To everyone, sure this would have been a big feather 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.359 in John's cap that John was actually named Crossing Supervisor 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:11.280 of the Year just a month ago. So in your face, counsel, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.920 can you believe at a time when our kids have 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.360 never had worse mental health issues which has been covered 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.919 at quite a well, We've covered it very thoroughly tonight 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.880 on the previous shows. At a time when the average 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.280 age of exposure to pornography in Australia is eight years 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.320 of age, at a time when we're very aware that 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:39.160 they're being radicalized online, those who are most I guess 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:44.040 vulnerable to that kind of radicalization by Islamus online. At 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.720 a time when kids are going through so much that 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.880 the government seemingly is just doing absolutely nothing about the combat, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.040 we're targeting a guy who gives them a high five. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.960 I just I cannot get over it. We do so 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.280 many of these council gone mad stories on this program, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.480 and this is why you've got to keep watching, because 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.840 like you would not hear a lot of these stories, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.200 know the madness that was going on if it weren't 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.120 for the fact that we bring some of these yarns 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.520 to you. But like, of all the things in the world. Okay, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.000 so you're the Yarra Rangers Council. A complaint comes across 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:24.040 your desk from some unnamed parent who said, I don't 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.560 like that the lollipop man is giving the kids high fives. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.920 And you go, okay, So who is the lollipop man? 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.000 John Goulden. Okay, he's been employed for six years doing this. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.920 He's a much loved part of the community. He's been 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.080 oh it says here, has just been awarded lollipop Man 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.560 of the damn Year. He's the bad guy here. We're 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.760 going to have to ban him from high fiving kids 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.280 because one parent who we do not know who that is, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.599 has an issue with it. Like how many times do 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.440 we have to have cases of ninety nine percent of 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.760 the population has no problem, in fact, they love it, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.880 and then one person says, well, I'm not comfortable with that, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.800 and then he has to be banned from doing the 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.960 one thing that brings joy into people's lives. You are 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.360 a ranger's counsel. I have one message for you, and 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:20.599 it comes via the Simpsons. Want somebody please think of 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.280 the children because you sure as hell art I mean, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.479 just like how joyless unhappy do these council bureaucrats have 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.120 to be that they go after a man who spreads 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.560 joy and happiness and the children's lives and the slap 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.880 in the face that they did it under the guise 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:40.560 of safety. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.680 So they've put out this statement basically inferring that this 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:49.159 was in some way unsafe and maybe John's covert pedo 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.359 I mean, for crying out loud. The love that the 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.599 community has for him, look at him is very obvious. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.240 Look at it he's such a jolly fack. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.000 In people's day. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.320 Every day they put out this statement saying council's policy 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:07.400 states that unacceptable behaviors include exhibiting behaviors which may be 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:15.400 construed as unnecessarily physical. What is physical about a millisecond 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.880 of physical contact via a high five? Ladies and gentlemen, 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.719 This is peak idiocy's nothing more. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.919 The other crazy thing about this is you can guarantee 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.040 your arranger's council if they had one hundred people complain 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.160 about a pothole, nothing would get done. But one person 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.599 complains about a crossing supervisor doing a high five, and 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.320 all of a sudden, counselor on the job, and good 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.359 luck replacing John Gooden when he retires, because what bloke 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.760 would want to take up the job where you just 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.200 try to be nice to kids and all of a sudden, aw, 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:47.119 you're a threat. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.159 You shouldn't be doing. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.560 That, all of a sudden made an example of and 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.320 we're doing no more than just trying to be a 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:53.080 nice guy. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.640 And this is why you have so few male primary 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.719 school teachers because they are deathly worried of being accused 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.640 of propriety or being weird or something. Because they want 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.400 to teach young children, right like, they want to do 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.400 something good for children, and they're worried that someone is 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.480 going to make a complaint because they were in a 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.960 classroom with I don't know, little Lola or whatever because 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.560 he's trying to help her with her maths homework. But well, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.040 he was in there for two minutes longer than he 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.240 should have been, and somehow he's a pedophile. It is 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.520 absolutely disgusting. And the other thing that really annoys me 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.440 about it is that it is pulling apart not only 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.440 the small bits of joy that we get to have 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.880 in life, but it is pulling us apart as people. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:39.400 These are the things that create community and friendship and 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.400 connection and we need that now more than we ever have. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.240 And like, I have been told in various workplaces not 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.280 to hug my colleagues, and I'm like, why can't I 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.160 hug my? Oh well, there's a power imbalance? What power imbalance? 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.160 Who cares? If I work with someone and you're a 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.680 friend of mine, it shouldn't matter whether I'm your subordinate 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.880 to me or I'm subordinate to you or whatever. If 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.880 you need a hug, I'm going to give you a 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.320 hug because that's what normal people do. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.080 Yeah, but every night is a bit overkill, I gotta say, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.080 just every night. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.200 Here we go. My HR file is about to be 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.040 unfilled to you on air. And while we're on matters 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.200 of council craziness. You know I love these stories, so 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.720 I've got another one for you, and let's go to 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.800 my hometown of Adelaide, where hold Fast Bay Council is 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.440 employing a new tactic to issue parking fines that I've 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.560 never heard of being used before, and it is outrageous. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:49.120 They are now using cct CCTV cameras on main streets 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.560 to detect people doing things that are wrong and then 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.880 sending them a fine in the mail. And we find 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.080 out this because a bloke called Matthew Rogers copped one 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.440 hundred and sixteen dollar fine in the mail because he 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.720 was detected by the council through a CCTV camera with 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.720 his car parked on a yellow line. Now yellow line 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:16.440 is universal signal for you can't stop here, but he 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.080 had stopped well, his son was driving the car at 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.800 the time. They had pulled up out the front of 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:26.120 a restaurant they had stopped for. He estimates about eleven 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.240 seconds so he could let the passengers out of the 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.319 car before they went and parked it elsewhere. He wasn't 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.280 parked there, He wasn't parked on a yellow line. He 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.760 was there for less than thirty seconds, letting some passengers 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.360 out of the car, and some overly officious prick sitting 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.520 in the office looking at the camera had sent that 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.840 photo to the fines department and said, send this dude 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.040 a fine because he stopped for eleven seconds on a 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.400 yellow line. This is outrageous. It's got to be the 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.520 worst k of council revenue raising I have ever seen 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.839 to go like clearly, okay, I'm letting some people out 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.680 of the car, and then I'm moving the car to 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.760 a legitimate parking spot where he probably paid the council 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.480 to part there, and they seen him one hundred and 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:16.640 sixteen dollar five a. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.560 Local councils wonder why we hate them. It wasn't dangerous, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.480 no one was being obstructed, nobody was hurt, no one 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.320 was upset. It was clearly revenue raising. But if I 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.440 was an Uber driver, I'd be watching this thinking, do 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:28.840 you job? 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:29.240 Help me? 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.200 Because Uber drivers pull over all sorts of places for 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.240 a moment, so you can jump in and using CCTV, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.320 And we talked about how in many councils now they're 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.840 using cameras in parking spots to issue fines. It removes 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:47.000 that opportunity for someone, an actual person, to say, oh, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.040 don't worry about it, it's fine, and use some discretion. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.200 But when it's just cameras like that, eleven seconds, no discretion, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:54.920 no wonder. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.240 People hate the council. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.319 And this must have been such a setup, right, who's 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:03.080 watching the CCTV and then rights to I guess the 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.240 parking finds people to be like, by the way, saw 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.080 this number plate. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.400 They were there for eleven seconds? Get them? I mean, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.120 who does that? We're now seeing. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:19.079 A cross departmental parking watch any way that they can 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.400 get you. And what really gets me about this is 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.440 when we're in the middle of a cost of living 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.800 crisis and people are already just doing their dandas to 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:35.200 make ends meet who what kind of nasty little snitch 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.640 sits in local council and goes, oh, yeah, this finds 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.880 deserve for crying out loud. I got a parking fine 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.200 also on a yellow line, which I didn't even know about. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.760 They are not a universal sign of do not. I 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:56.679 am from Western Australia. Yellow lines in Western Australia. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.840 Before that, I was in Queensland. No yellow line in Queensland. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.520 So this you want to hope that's true. Someone's going 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.880 to email me now tell me this is It. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.240 Is simply not true. And I copped a three hundred 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.680 and twenty dollar fine. I have a private park. I 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.280 just happened to be parked. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.880 There for a few hours because A I didn't know you. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.840 Couldn't park on a yellow line, and B I was 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.839 being navely because my neighbors were moving out and they 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.600 needed my parking spot. And I was like, no worries, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.840 I'll just park on the street for a few hours. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.520 What's the worst that can happen. I'm sure we can 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.920 all agree that parking fines are parking fines. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.720 But three hundred and twenty dollars. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.079 I too was hurting no one. I too was obstructing 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.160 no one. That is just extortionate. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.400 That is ridiculous. It shouldn't even be legal. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.800 And this a week after we were talking about the 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:54.080 fact that New South Wales councils alone in the last 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:58.280 financial year it nabbed New South Walians one hundred and 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:03.680 fifty five million dollars using this sneaky little tactic where 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.320 they didn't leave it on the windshield anymore, you just 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.880 get it in the mail. And of course that means 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.880 people don't have a way of fighting back. There was 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.880 no way to collect evidence, maybe take photos and be like, well, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.480 actually on that day, here's where I was really parked. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.720 They're just getting fines in the mail weeks later and 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.480 going well, hang on a minute, where was I? How 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.960 long was I? Therefore, how did this fine occur? And 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.160 then they have way less ammo with which to push 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.120 back on the council, Not that I think anyone reads those, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.079 by the way, you always just get some generated reply. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.000 I swear you could write in a. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.480 Complaint being like it was giving birth on the side 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.800 of her she was really untimely, but my water's brought. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.839 Get some bot answer back, being like our laws stipulate 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.200 that you cannot be parked this so and this is 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:55.400 nobody she reads them. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 I sweat And this is in glenil Jetty Road, Glanild 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.719 And anyone who knows about Adelaide knows that Glenelge is 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.600 the most popular beach in Adelaide. It's a tourist attraction. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.920 It's a really busy place. Jetty Road is the main 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.080 strip and so if they are using CCTV cameras to 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.439 monitor this kind of thing, they are just going to 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.320 be running an absolute cash cow because you can never 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.040 get a park on Jetty Road and they will constantly 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.480 be doing this stuff. And I appeal to the mayor 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.000 of Holdfast Bay, Amanda Wilson, who is a good woman. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.520 I know her. Amanda, please intervene here. The guy has 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.400 paid the fine. Matthew Rogers paid the fine in full, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.440 and he sent a personal letter, handwritten letter to the 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:42.320 council about it. But Amanda Wilson, please just intervene in 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.800 this case and give the man his money back. He 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.520 has done nothing wrong. And here we are slagging off 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.160 your council on air, and we will continue to slag 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.680 off the council every opportunity we get. But just do 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.280 something nice for once and restore a little bit of 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:04.040 faith councils and say, look, yes we made a mistake here. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.440 You shouldn't have received a fine. Have your money back. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.160 Wouldn't that be a nice into the school? 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.080 Nice? 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.480 But right, yes, that would be the. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.600 Right thing to do. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.840 We're trying to work out who would do this, Who 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.280 would sit there in a room with a CCTV and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.160 issue a fine. Probably the same person that complained about 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.840 the crossing Supervisor. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.320 Karens of the World. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:31.320 The Show Karen put down the phone, ban that person's 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.560 email onto more council drama, now of a different kind. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.520 The new South Wales state director of the Liberal Party's 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:44.280 head is currently rolling because this guy failed to put 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.880 in the nominations for Liberal candidates. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.440 In up to twelve counsels. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.480 How on earth is this possible, Director Richard Shields, what 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.840 can you not operate a photo copier? It hasn't even 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.960 been able to come up with a proper excuse. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.880 Here's what he had to say for himself. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.360 Mister Shields blamed the spectacular failure on a lack of 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.640 secretariat resources. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:12.640 Quote. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.600 Unfortunately, we were unable to nominate in all of the 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.240 local government areas that were put forward by the state 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.000 Executive on behalf of the secretariat. I would like to 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:27.600 apologize to Liberal endorsed counselors that were not nominated and 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.840 to the party membership more broadly. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.600 Not good enough. Mate. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.840 Every other night we are sat here railing against the 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.720 idiocy of councils that are firmly in the hands of 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.200 Greens and labor councilors. And now we've got twelve councils 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.040 in New South Wales alone that don't even have liberal 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.440 candidates on the ticket, So people in those councils come 0:16:54.520 --> 0:17:00.400 election time won't even have a liberal option. This is 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.440 democracy gone to the. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:06.120 Manifest. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.480 Well, it's not democracy manifest. In fact, it's a bullet in. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.439 The face of democracy because these people won't even have 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.359 the option to say, we want less green crazies running 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.720 the show. We want less welcomes to countries, we want 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.960 less counselors eating through time that they're supposed to be 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.159 spending on roads, rates and rubbish, talking about oh what 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:31.760 about Palestine, And we're standing for Gaza way outside your jurisdiction, lovies. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.360 We're just going to have more and more of that. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:38.200 And it rests squarely on the shoulders of this moron 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.399 who wants to blame it on what administrative resources. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:43.720 Apparently, well, in. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.439 A few volunteers. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:49.800 Mayre councils including Northern Beaches, Lane Cove, wooll And Gone, Campbelltown, 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.560 Blue Mountains. Apparently we'll have no Liberal candidates running whatsoever 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.800 the irin of course, if you don't turn up to vote, you. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.560 Still get fine. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.639 I know, why should you turn up to vote when 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.679 the Liberal aren't even bothering. The nominations were due in 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.320 at midday today and according to the article, the Liberals 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.600 were running all over Sydney trying to get people to 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.439 sign bits of paper get all the forms this morning. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.800 Still didn't manage to do it. So the ballot comes 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:19.720 out tomorrow, the order etc. And it'll be missing a whole. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.639 There's three hundred Liberals that have nominated, but a lot haven't, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.920 including some I believe who are sitting council members who 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.320 suddenly won't have a job anymore. There are because the 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.000 Liberal party secretary didn't do here. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.920 There are people who have lost their wards because the 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.960 state executive or the party the state director sorry, couldn't 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.160 get the nominations in on time. Now, look for those 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.840 who live in other states and don't understand, in New 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:50.520 South Wales you actually have proper organized party structures within council, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.879 so the party is actually on the ticket when you 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.840 go and vote in council elections, which isn't typically in 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.880 a lot of other states. But you have a situation 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:04.560 here like how can a party, the Liberal Party that 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.680 presumably would like to win the next state election in New. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:14.000 South Wales general elections, they can't even nominate people for 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.080 a council election and they're going to ask in three 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.800 years time for the support of New South walesman to 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.520 elect them to government in this state. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.800 How can it be? I mean, look, the time and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.359 day by which you had to get these nominations in 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.520 was set in stone. They knew what it was. Now 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.800 what did the state director, Richard Shields wake up this 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.000 morning as I used to do when I was at 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.760 school and left everything to the last minute, And did 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.280 he wake up this morning go I've got to do 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.240 my homework. I've got to do my homework or the 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.359 teacher's going to get really angry. Except he didn't do 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.800 the homework, and now he's got the entire Liberal Party 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.719 on his ass saying mate, what are you doing that? 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.320 The New South Wales Electoral Commission put out a press 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:04.280 rely six days ago saying don't forget to put in 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.760 your nominations for local government, little realizing they probably should 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.200 have sent it directly to the Liberal Party head office 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.320 because they have all people needed to know you can't 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:13.919 make this stuff. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:14.640 That's a good. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:19.480 Question though, whether party politics belongs in local council because 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.119 when you are roads rates and rubbish, you shouldn't be 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:29.480 venturing into party politics whatsoever. In Wa, it's a very 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:34.120 different system. You yourself, nominate yourself. I ran for local government, 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.080 came first out of twenty nine candidates, beat the sitting mare, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:38.080 just casually. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.159 But you are so humbled. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.120 Hey, it was a great accomplishment, thank you very much. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.840 But it's all off your own bat and people stump 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.600 up for their own pamphlets for their whether they want 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:51.920 to go. 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:52.800 Door knocking, etc. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.479 And so on, but you don't bring party politics into it. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.520 Now, a small google of me would have brought up. 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:01.639 The fact that I was a liberal staffer, et cetera 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:02.920 and so on, but. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.640 That is not meant to encroach on your. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.320 Job as a counselor because, like I say, roads rates 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.359 and rubbish has nothing to do with party politics. 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:13.600 Neither should it. 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.480 And if these councils just left it out and so 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.640 it doesn't matter what party you hail from or where 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.560 your positions are on state and federal issues, it would 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:28.399 probably go a lot better, especially for these liberal counselors 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:29.719 in New South Wales. 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.480 The good news for us is that with not many 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.800 Liberals on councils in New South Wales and it will 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.320 be dominated by Greens and Labor Party members, we will 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:37.080 have plenty to. 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.520