WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 30 September

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<v Speaker 1>Lately, General Man, welcome the late.

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<v Speaker 2>Plays well, good evening and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Lizstawra and Caleb Bond coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has called Kamala Harris mentally disabled. It's got

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<v Speaker 3>the media furists, but public don't seem to mind. Will

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<v Speaker 3>show you the amazing reception he got at a sporting

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<v Speaker 3>event overnight. Plus, when we get to the papers, the

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<v Speaker 3>mayor of Alice Springs has taken on a second job

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<v Speaker 3>in order to pay the bills, and Australia's largest Lebanese

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<v Speaker 3>Muslim association has called into question Penny Wong's fitness as

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<v Speaker 3>Foreign Minister. All of that when we look at what's

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<v Speaker 3>making news tomorrow. But first, a new report has warned

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<v Speaker 3>warned that the British Army would literally run out of

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<v Speaker 3>soldiers if they were forced to fight a war with

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<v Speaker 3>similar to casualty rates to the war in Ukraine. The

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<v Speaker 3>House of Lord's Reports says civilians need to be ready

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<v Speaker 3>to fight because Britain's military, with just seventy five thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and sixty six regular troops, is simply too small.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They made a number of recommendations under the heading Army

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<v Speaker 3>size and readiness.

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<v Speaker 2>The House of Lord's Reports said, while size.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not the only measure of capability, the committee is

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<v Speaker 3>concerned that the British Army cannot as currently constituted, make

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<v Speaker 3>the expected troop contribution to NATO or sustain prolonged conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>The Committee calls on the government to address recruitment and

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<v Speaker 3>retention challenges and reinvigorate the reserves to.

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<v Speaker 2>Help build up numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Calablizs as we're reading this this afternoon, it becomes evident

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<v Speaker 3>that this is not a problem unique to the British military.

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<v Speaker 3>This problem is being experienced right around the western world.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a report in June that the Australian forces

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<v Speaker 3>at a minimum requires sixty nine thousand troops. We've reached

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<v Speaker 3>just eighty percent of that recruitment target. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>the federal government recently announced they would allow non citizens

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<v Speaker 3>to serve in the Australian Defense Forces for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's numbers of reasons for this. I've

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<v Speaker 3>come up with five. I'll give you three and you

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<v Speaker 3>can ask for the other two later if you like

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<v Speaker 3>the first three. But firstly, national identity is continually under

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<v Speaker 3>attack in the West, and whether it's a diminishing love

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<v Speaker 3>of country, you're always going to have a diminishing number

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<v Speaker 3>of people willing to fight for their country.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you fight for a country you're told is.

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<v Speaker 3>Racist, sexist, illegitimate and then oppressor. Third, immigration, I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a major issue, especially as it pertains to multiculturalism.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen protests on the streets of Melbourne and Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>this week where you honestly start to wonder, are there

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<v Speaker 3>people who, yes, they live in this country, but their

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<v Speaker 3>loyalties like elsewhere, and those loyalties would be tested in

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<v Speaker 3>the event of conflict. And I'll give you one more.

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<v Speaker 3>Western nations now are so committed to a welfare state,

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<v Speaker 3>and a welfare state consumes resources that could otherwise be

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<v Speaker 3>used and are badly needed when it comes to having

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<v Speaker 3>a defense force that's capable of being a deterrent. As

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I've got two more, But let me stop talking.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think a good idea?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I will say, though you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>welfare state. If you're looking for an opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 4>free health care, a roof over your head, you're a

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<v Speaker 4>young man looking for something to do. The defense force

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<v Speaker 4>is actually a really good place to go. They look

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<v Speaker 4>after you really well in terms of that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And the problem, of course is that if you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>for people to sign up to the ADIR for the

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<v Speaker 4>force in Britain or any other country, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not looking for forty five year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking for young people.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say young men, but of course

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<v Speaker 4>they don't just look for young men anymore. They want

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<v Speaker 4>young men and women. But you're looking for young people,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is young people in particular who feel the

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<v Speaker 4>least likely to go and defend their country because their

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<v Speaker 4>brains have been infected with all of this anti Australian,

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<v Speaker 4>anti British, anti Western sentiment. I mean, the IPA here

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<v Speaker 4>in Australia did a survey a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 4>that found that of eighteen to twenty four year olds,

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<v Speaker 4>if Australia was in a similar situation to Ukraine, so

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<v Speaker 4>you've been invaded and you are at war, only twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seven percent of eighteen to twenty four year old said

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<v Speaker 4>that they would stay and fight. Forty eight percent, nearly

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<v Speaker 4>half of young Australians said they would flee the country.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's how much national pride young Australians have

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<v Speaker 4>because they're continually told that you're living on stolen land

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<v Speaker 4>and it's illegitimate and where racist, and on and on

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<v Speaker 4>it goes, and who cares because climate change is going

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<v Speaker 4>to cook us all anyway, So what's the point in

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<v Speaker 4>defending what is right? In order to defend your country,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to not only believe in the land on

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<v Speaker 4>which you live, you have to believe in the culture

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<v Speaker 4>that you would be asked to defend, and that simply

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't exist anymore. So why they can't be surprised that

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<v Speaker 4>people aren't signing up to the defense force. Because if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't agree with, you don't believe in the ideals

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<v Speaker 4>of your country, then what is there left to defend?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think immigration is a really strong point here,

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<v Speaker 5>because especially in England, they have what for years now

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<v Speaker 5>the country be overrun by illegals or legals and increasingly

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<v Speaker 5>don't even recognize England as England anymore. I was just

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<v Speaker 5>astonished by these numbers, because we're talking about a country

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<v Speaker 5>who has twice our populations fifty six million people in

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<v Speaker 5>England alone, and yet we're told by this report the

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<v Speaker 5>British Army is seventy five thousand, one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 5>six regular troops. Is that all They've got one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and eighty three thousand on top of that, But then

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<v Speaker 5>you're counting literally the ADMIN teams and it notes that

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<v Speaker 5>only eighty thousand of this number in total would be

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<v Speaker 5>frontline combat boots on the ground type troops. So when

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<v Speaker 5>we're looking at the tenuous geopolitical situation that we're in

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<v Speaker 5>on more than one front, this is hair raising and

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that not only Australia but the UK this

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<v Speaker 5>is no better.

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<v Speaker 6>In America, trust me, they are also looking at terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>Numbers in terms of recruitment, in terms of retainment in

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<v Speaker 5>their military right across, whether you're talking air Force, Navy,

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<v Speaker 5>or army, and you're wondering, how could you have let

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<v Speaker 5>it get this bad while pushing out all these kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of policies and kind of directives from the top that

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<v Speaker 5>do insinuate that, yes, this isn't a nation worth fighting for.

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<v Speaker 5>We're seeing it in our very own top brass. We're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing it throughout the institutions.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you say, the kids are like, well, why would

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<v Speaker 6>I fight for this place?

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<v Speaker 5>It's increasingly not looking like the country that I thought

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<v Speaker 5>I was being brought up in any way, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>being told that we're some colonious power that's got everything

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<v Speaker 5>to apologize for.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you defend your country, you then end up

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<v Speaker 4>being slandered as some sort of war criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>In the media is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Report written by the ADF saying that you should have

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<v Speaker 4>your medals taken away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why would you put yourself up for that.

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<v Speaker 4>If everything that happens at war, and we know the

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<v Speaker 4>fog of war is real, is going to be examined

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<v Speaker 4>with a fine tooth comb so someone can find fault

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<v Speaker 4>with you. I mean, the Vladimir Putins and the Jiji

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<v Speaker 4>Pings of the world must laugh when they wake up

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<v Speaker 4>every morning looking at the Western world, going look, because

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<v Speaker 4>they have authoritarian countries, which necessarily mean that you have

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<v Speaker 4>will have a much larger army because people are indoctrinated

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that they live in the best country in

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it works.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no other way to disseminate information that would say

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<v Speaker 4>that you're living in a bad country.

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<v Speaker 1>But they go look at the West.

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<v Speaker 4>They are literally killing themselves every single day while our

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<v Speaker 4>armies grow bigger hooray for us.

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<v Speaker 5>The teeth they say we still have seventy at least

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<v Speaker 5>seventy five more genders than there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure they're really worried on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Pronouns are a weapon. We would absolutely blitch any war.

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<v Speaker 3>You raise a great point, and that is our national

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<v Speaker 3>broadcaster is continually belitting our defense forces, even to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where recently they've been accused of doctoring video to

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<v Speaker 3>show our soldiers in a bad light. That's hardly going

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<v Speaker 3>to encourage anybody to fight. I watched the ABC report

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<v Speaker 3>of the protests yesterday, and honestly, you would never have

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<v Speaker 3>known that the Israelis killed a terrorist. You would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was some amazing humanitarian. And then on top

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<v Speaker 3>of that, trusting government is at an all time low.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're going to go to war, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to send your kids to war, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>trust that the people making the decisions have got your

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<v Speaker 3>best interests at heart. But instead they're trying to suppress

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<v Speaker 3>our free speech. And finally, to your question, Liz, how

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<v Speaker 3>do we get here? I think we've had a few

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<v Speaker 3>decades of peace and prosperity where war was the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing on our minds and it's allowed all these luxury

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<v Speaker 3>beliefs that only now we're realizing have completely undermined the

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<v Speaker 3>entire nation. And if ever we were in a tight spot,

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<v Speaker 3>we suddenly don't have the wherewith to defend ourselves.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and the people in charge of making sure that

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<v Speaker 5>this never happened of just let it happen on mass

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<v Speaker 5>This is across the West.

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<v Speaker 6>These are the militaries.

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<v Speaker 5>That should anything go wrong, We're all very much relying

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<v Speaker 5>on to the States now where we know here when it.

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<v Speaker 6>Comes to the war on free speech.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got our e Safety Commissioner, a world first yae

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<v Speaker 5>Go Australia. We've got a pending bill combating miss and disinformation.

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<v Speaker 5>We've also got another pending bill focusing on hate speech.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to say free speech. Wow, that's an

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<v Speaker 5>oxymoll one. But these guys are pumping out this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of legislation that is designed to limit what you and

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<v Speaker 5>I can and can't say in our everyday lives as

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<v Speaker 5>well as online. We make fun of the Scotland's hate

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<v Speaker 5>speech laws.

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<v Speaker 6>How ridiculous that is.

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<v Speaker 5>You can go to jail for up to seven years

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<v Speaker 5>for saying the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Then there's the UK who.

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<v Speaker 5>So similarly belieged obsess with this last year alone carried

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<v Speaker 5>out over three thousand arrests just of everyday citizens who

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<v Speaker 5>posted something naughty on their social media. Well, in the States.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a little bit of a problem for them.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't just pass legislation cracking down on free speech

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<v Speaker 5>because they've got an entire Bill of Rights that was

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<v Speaker 5>designed to ensure that tyrannical governments simply couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>They've also got this pesky little thing called the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 5>in which the First Amendment says that Congress can make

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<v Speaker 5>no law that a bridges rites to free speech or

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<v Speaker 5>in the press. And this is a very real problem

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<v Speaker 5>for a budding tyrannical government who very much wants to

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<v Speaker 5>be the arbiter of truth. Here's John Kerry. He's talking

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<v Speaker 5>at a World Economic Forum pow Wow recently and talking

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<v Speaker 5>about in terms of climate change. He is the US

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<v Speaker 5>Special Presidential Envoy for Climate They just keep making up

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<v Speaker 5>these new titles. So he's there in that capacity, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's saying, what a bomber it is that free speech

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<v Speaker 5>is so protected in the US, because it's posing a

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<v Speaker 5>real problem.

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<v Speaker 7>But look, if people go to only one source and

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<v Speaker 7>the source they go to is sick and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>as an agenda, and they're putting out disinformation. Our First

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<v Speaker 7>Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to just hammer it out of existence. So

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<v Speaker 7>what you need, what we need is to is to

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<v Speaker 7>win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully

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<v Speaker 7>having winning enough votes that you're free to be able

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<v Speaker 7>to implement change. Democracies around the world now are struggling

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<v Speaker 7>with the absence of a sort of truth arbiter, and

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<v Speaker 7>there's no one who defines what the facts really are.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy is literally the Secretary of State. Wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure I got his former title right, and there

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<v Speaker 5>he is saying he really wants to violate the Constitution

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<v Speaker 5>basically because their trillion dollar media empire is being bought

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<v Speaker 5>low by cat memes and people being able to trade

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<v Speaker 5>information freely on not only social media platforms, but any

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<v Speaker 5>other mechanism that free individuals in the United States can utilize.

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<v Speaker 5>You here him talking there about you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 5>many places people can go to for their own facts

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<v Speaker 5>and figures, and how terrible that is.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we need to be able to win.

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<v Speaker 5>The right to crack down on this. They're not even

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<v Speaker 5>hiding anymore. They are telling you what they intend to do.

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<v Speaker 5>And we all know that even though they can't pass

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<v Speaker 5>legislation in the States like they can here sadly to

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<v Speaker 5>make that happen for themselves. We all know that the

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<v Speaker 5>censorship is already well and truly alive in America. We've

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<v Speaker 5>had Zuckerberg admit that he basically paid played his part

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<v Speaker 5>last election.

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<v Speaker 6>We'd be very naive to believe.

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<v Speaker 5>His then promises that that was never going to happen again,

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<v Speaker 5>and he was back a change. There's a chase, the

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<v Speaker 5>Russell brand of social media. This would never happen in

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<v Speaker 5>this day and age, but these these people who are

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<v Speaker 5>in charge are making it more and more obvious. This

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<v Speaker 5>is fully what we intend to do. This is our agenda,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're going to get there one way, if not

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<v Speaker 5>one way another.

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<v Speaker 4>We also complained that it's really really hard to govern

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<v Speaker 4>today because you know, people are able to question readily

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<v Speaker 4>what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the point of democracy, Boddy. Represent Entitive democracy is

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<v Speaker 4>where we the people elect you to represent us and

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<v Speaker 4>do what we ask you to do. If we're then

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<v Speaker 4>questioning what you do, whether that be in four years

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<v Speaker 4>time at an election, or in the meantime in the

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<v Speaker 4>letters to the editor, or on Facebook or ex or

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<v Speaker 4>what other social media platform you want to use.

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<v Speaker 1>That is part of the job. I mean, imagine sitting.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's just so hard to be in government now.

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<v Speaker 4>This is terrible because people are questioning what I am saying.

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<v Speaker 4>When you hear a politician or a bureaucrat open their

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<v Speaker 4>mouth and say, we lack a truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Arbiter, and that is a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>What they mean is we lack someone who can tell

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<v Speaker 4>you that what we want you to think is the

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<v Speaker 4>truth and not what is actually the truth. The problem

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<v Speaker 4>for them is that information is at people's fingertips like

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<v Speaker 4>it never has been before, ever since the advent of

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet in people's homes, and of course then since

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<v Speaker 4>things like smartphones have become common and whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can look something up anytime of day or night

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<v Speaker 4>wherever you are. If a politician says something, you can

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<v Speaker 4>fact check it in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they hate and what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>fart against.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you, I felt very sorry for John Kerey

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<v Speaker 3>watching him there pour out his heart about how difficult

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<v Speaker 3>it is to be an elite in this globalized world

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<v Speaker 3>because it's just so difficult to control people.

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<v Speaker 2>That the arrogance.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he literally said, the only problem we have

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<v Speaker 3>is the US Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>If only we can get rid of that.

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<v Speaker 3>To just come out openly and say that just demonstrates

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<v Speaker 3>how bold they have become and how confident they are

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<v Speaker 3>that they can keep pushing this stuff through and nothing

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<v Speaker 3>will stop them. For him to insist we need a

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<v Speaker 3>referee who can determine what.

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<v Speaker 2>The facts are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm wondering who would he have in mind for

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<v Speaker 3>ref Would it be Liz, Would it be Caleb.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think he's got John Kerry.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So they imagine this dystopian world in which a select

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<v Speaker 3>group of elite select the news outlets which they control,

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<v Speaker 3>from which you're allowed to source the facts while suppressing

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. And if only we could have that, then

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<v Speaker 3>the world would just be fine. But you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>keep in mind this the real threat to democracy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the absolute craziness of this.

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<v Speaker 3>They keep saying Trump while sprouting stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the US Constitution is the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 4>He also said it is part of our problem, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's lamenting the fact that they actually live

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<v Speaker 4>in a democracy. We can't get a consensus because in

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<v Speaker 4>this bloody democracy thing, people are coming up with different ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare they if only we had a dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 3>As Secretary of Seysier, he did one too many trips

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<v Speaker 3>to Beijing, I reckon this.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, you've got a few too many good ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, and you mentioned there Trump being a threat to democracy,

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<v Speaker 4>which is because we keep hearing this rhetoric. We heard

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<v Speaker 4>it from Biden, We've heard it from Kamala Harris, you

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<v Speaker 4>hear it from basically anyone who doesn't like Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is probably part of what has led to

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<v Speaker 4>at least two people now trying to kill Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 4>since he restarted his campaign to be the forty seventh

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<v Speaker 4>president of the United States. Well Elon Musk, the proprietor

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<v Speaker 4>of X amongst other things, has taken to his platform

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<v Speaker 4>to point out that it's not actually Donald Trump who

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<v Speaker 4>is the threat to democracy. It is the Democrats themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd think, you know, they're called the Democrats, so they'd

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<v Speaker 4>be all on board with democracy. But we just heard

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<v Speaker 4>from John Kerry that he doesn't like the system very

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<v Speaker 4>much because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Means that people fact check him.

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<v Speaker 4>But Elon Musk has pointed out on x that very

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<v Speaker 4>few Americans realize that if Trump is not elected, this

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<v Speaker 4>will be the last election. Now he is using some

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<v Speaker 4>hyperbole here, but let him continue. He says, far from

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<v Speaker 4>being a threat to democracy, he is the only way

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<v Speaker 4>to save it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain.

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<v Speaker 4>If even one in twenty illegals become citizens per year,

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<v Speaker 4>something that the Democrats are expediting as fast as humanly possible,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be about two million new legal voters in

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<v Speaker 4>four years. The voting margin in swing states is often

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<v Speaker 4>less than twenty thousand votes, so that means if the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic quote unquote party succeeds, then there will be no

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<v Speaker 4>more swing states. Moreover, the Biden Harris administration has been

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<v Speaker 4>flying asylum seekers who are fast tracked to citizenship directly

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<v Speaker 4>into swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Arizona. It

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<v Speaker 4>is a sure fire away to win every election. America

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<v Speaker 4>then becomes a one party state and democracy is over.

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<v Speaker 4>The only elections will be the Democratic Party primaries. This

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<v Speaker 4>already happened in California many years ago following the nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty six amnesty. The only thing holding California back from

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<v Speaker 4>extreme socialism and suffocating government policies is that people can

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<v Speaker 4>leave California and still remain in America. Once the whole

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<v Speaker 4>country is controlled by one party, there will be no escape.

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<v Speaker 4>Everywhere in America will be like the nightmare that is

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<v Speaker 4>downtown San Francisco. And we know this is exactly why

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<v Speaker 4>more than six million people have been allowed to pour

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<v Speaker 4>over the border illegally, the southern ten million now from

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<v Speaker 4>Mexico under the Biden Harris administration all the while, and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get to this soon. But of course Harris is

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<v Speaker 4>now saying, oh, I'm going to be tough on the border,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've been pretending.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, we're going to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do so were the borders are.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole point has been to get people into America

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<v Speaker 4>who eventually the Democrats can turn into citizens. And then well,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you going to vote for? The people who

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<v Speaker 4>allowed you into the country or the people who didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to let you in in the first place. It

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<v Speaker 4>is so obvious, and Musk has just turned the debate

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<v Speaker 4>around said, well, look, you keep talking about threats to democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about what you're trying to pull off here,

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<v Speaker 4>and he illustrates it brilliantly.

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<v Speaker 5>And the truth of the matter is it's actually going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen a lot faster than that, because, as we've

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<v Speaker 5>covered on this show and others before, these illegals can already.

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<v Speaker 6>Register to vote. Who is the time of the admin

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<v Speaker 6>power to vet them all?

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<v Speaker 5>You can simply go sign up to vote and then yes,

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<v Speaker 5>on polling day, actually cast your vote. And it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Carmala's Department of Justice, the joke is in the name,

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<v Speaker 5>is pursuing Alabama for taking over three thousand people off

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<v Speaker 5>their voter registration polls. Why because these people were found.

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<v Speaker 6>To be illegals.

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<v Speaker 5>They were issued non citizen identification numbers by the Department.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys aren't legals. You cannot vote in the up

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<v Speaker 5>and coming election. And now the DOJ is suing Alabama

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<v Speaker 5>for doing this.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they say.

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<v Speaker 5>It's because you're not supposed to do this less than

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<v Speaker 5>ninety days out to an election, and that ship has sailed.

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<v Speaker 5>But surely a Department of Justice worth a pinch of

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<v Speaker 5>salt would say, look, you're a few days short, but

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<v Speaker 5>these people are illegals. We don't want them voting in

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<v Speaker 5>these elections.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead, we literally have.

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<v Speaker 5>An outright admission these guys are trying to cheat.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what this looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>Why would a Department of Justice now go after a

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<v Speaker 5>state for cleaning up their voter registrations. And let's be

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<v Speaker 5>clear here, Obama is a dead red state like Alabama.

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<v Speaker 5>That's who they are, it's what they do it to

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<v Speaker 5>make They're a famously redneck state. Why would you even

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<v Speaker 5>bother prosecuting these guys for this unless you're probably trying

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<v Speaker 5>to send a message to others.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is a government who clearly wants.

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<v Speaker 5>To keep illegals on the voter rolls, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>nothing to hide it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense, does it.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, on the one hand, non citizens won't vote,

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got nothing to worry about, and on the

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<v Speaker 3>other hand, we're going to sue to make sure non citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay on the electoral role.

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<v Speaker 3>So clearly there's mixed messages there. As you said, it

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<v Speaker 3>was only six days they were out in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>cleaning up and the law. As I understand is to

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<v Speaker 3>design to stop a mass clean up of the electoral role.

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<v Speaker 3>This is less than three thousand names, and it would likely.

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<v Speaker 6>Just go over three thousand, two hundred and.

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<v Speaker 3>Presuming not every single one of those is illegal once

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<v Speaker 3>they sought it through.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a small number of people.

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<v Speaker 3>And for electoral integrity, especially when there's been debates about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, was it legitimate the last election and so on,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd think they would do everything they possibly can to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure there is no argument.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when they talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About January six and they want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a smooth handover of power, Well, why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in power, and if you're confident that your

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<v Speaker 3>candidate is the best person, why would you not go

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<v Speaker 3>to every length possible to make sure the process is

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<v Speaker 3>squeaky clean and that after November is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a peaceful transfer of power and you won't end up

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<v Speaker 3>in the courts or with something worse.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Alabama may will have missed the

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<v Speaker 4>legal deadline by five or six days. Just let that

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<v Speaker 4>go through to the keeper in the interests of maintaining

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<v Speaker 4>the veracity of the election, right, I mean, crimes are

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<v Speaker 4>committed every single day that are never prosecuted because it

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<v Speaker 4>just wouldn't be worth a police or the DPP's time

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<v Speaker 4>actually going through with it, because they've got bigger fish

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<v Speaker 4>to fry. So this was absolutely at the discretion of

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<v Speaker 4>the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have to follow this up.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not duty bound to do so, but they have

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<v Speaker 4>done it because they want to send the shot across

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<v Speaker 4>the bow to anyone else who might dare to now

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<v Speaker 4>go and try and clean up.

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<v Speaker 1>Their voter roles.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean being to say the Assistant Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 4>Kristen Clark said, the right to vote is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most sacred rights in our democracy. As election day approaches,

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<v Speaker 4>it is critical that Alabama redress voter confusion resulting from

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<v Speaker 4>its list maintenance mailing scent in violation of federal law.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's our most sacred right to vote. And

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<v Speaker 4>she then goes on about voter confusion. Okay, so if

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<v Speaker 4>you are on the electoral role but you're not actually

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<v Speaker 4>legally allowed to be on the electoral role, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure it's really voter confusion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's frauds. A confusion, is what it is. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are just so boord faced in attempting.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not even attempting, just doing what they want to

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<v Speaker 4>do here, which is to get as many possible Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>voters on the electoral role as possible by any means necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>And they don't care what it does to the electoral

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<v Speaker 3>systems integrity, but nor do they care what it does

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<v Speaker 3>to the country. Immigration and Customs Enforcement released figures over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend showing that six hundred and sixty two thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred and sixty six people with criminal convictions, six

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand people have been admitted into the US, sixty

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand people with assault convictions, fifty six thousand with

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<v Speaker 3>drug offenses, fifteen thousand people with sexual assault offenses, fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>thousand burglars, thirteen thousand people with homicide convictions had been

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<v Speaker 3>allowed into the US. And clearly this is being done

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<v Speaker 3>to help the Democrat at the next election, who cares

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<v Speaker 3>what it does to the fabric of American society. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course, the great irony on top of all we've

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<v Speaker 3>just talked about is Kamala Harris is now repositioning herself

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<v Speaker 3>to be the one.

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<v Speaker 2>To save the day and to secure the border and.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure everything is going to be okay, despite the

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<v Speaker 3>fact she's been in charge for the last three and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years and done absolutely nothing, but the rebranding

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<v Speaker 3>of Kamala continues apace. She recently released a tweet, how's

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<v Speaker 3>this for gas lighting the American public? As Attorney General

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<v Speaker 3>of California, I prosecuted transnational criminal organizations that trafficked guns, drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>and human beings. I know the importance of safety and security,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at our border. She could have added in brackets,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why I allowed thirteen thousand murderers into the country,

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<v Speaker 3>but she continued, today, I love this. Today I visited

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<v Speaker 3>the US Mexico border. Hasn't been there much while she's

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<v Speaker 3>been Vice president of time. Yeah, with an election looming,

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<v Speaker 3>she visited and spoke with Customs and Border Protection officials

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<v Speaker 3>about our progress to secure our border and disrupt the

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<v Speaker 3>flow of a legal fentanyl into our nation. And I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you the Border patrol officials were so thankful

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<v Speaker 3>for her visit, so encouraged by it, and they are

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<v Speaker 3>full of optimism that this represents a.

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<v Speaker 2>New day for the United States, as.

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<v Speaker 3>Represented by this tweet from the Border Patrol Union.

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<v Speaker 2>Her going to go look at this. This is their response.

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<v Speaker 3>Vice president Harris has ignored the border problem she created

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<v Speaker 3>for over three years. She goes down there for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>minutes for a photo op and decides to repeat some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things the NPBC has said before. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>where she been for the last three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris is almost is repositioning herself as the challenger.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, her running mate Tim Waltz said the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't have another four years of this, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a Freudian slip, of course, because the last four years

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<v Speaker 3>has been Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like he's running against herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Trump has joked, I've got to get this woman

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<v Speaker 5>a maga hat because she's now just copying from my playbook.

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<v Speaker 5>She's going to be strong on the border all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden.

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<v Speaker 6>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>But again, the Border Union weren't having a bar of

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<v Speaker 5>this nonsense from Kamala Today in another tweet, they said,

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<v Speaker 5>we have apprehended over eight million illegal immigrants over the

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<v Speaker 5>last four years, and now you realize we need by help.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty days thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Days before the election. So they're making it very well known.

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<v Speaker 5>We have been frustrated for years. We have begged you

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<v Speaker 5>for more resources. You have facilitated this invasion by design.

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<v Speaker 6>This is not our fault.

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<v Speaker 5>And don't you dare come down here at two minutes

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<v Speaker 5>to midnight in your election campaign bid and make everyone think.

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<v Speaker 6>That, oh you're going to turn it around now.

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<v Speaker 5>Now your care thirty eight days out to an election.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you're saying, oh, yeah, this is my number one issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Do me a favor. Meanwhile, her do oj one state

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<v Speaker 6>for just being like, hey, we've just.

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<v Speaker 5>Knocked about three than two hundred illegals of our voter

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<v Speaker 5>registration and they're like nope, not having any of it

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<v Speaker 5>with one of those jebs.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell here is that she's running as.

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<v Speaker 3>The former attorney general of California, which she finished that

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<v Speaker 3>job in twenty seventeen, and she's not running on her

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<v Speaker 3>most recent role as vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>And the borders are, by the way, during her term.

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<v Speaker 6>She visited one Sarena Cayleeb.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, good point, good point, but you know she visited

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<v Speaker 4>once until now, I mean this is her second visit

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<v Speaker 4>to the border.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd visited the border once.

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<v Speaker 4>As borders are when we know that people were sent

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<v Speaker 4>in to clean up the borders, so it didn't look

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<v Speaker 4>like there were so many illegal migrants hanging around the joint.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course part of her thing now is that

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<v Speaker 4>she said she would bring back the formerly failed border bill,

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<v Speaker 4>and part of that border bill was to recommence the

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<v Speaker 4>construction of the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>The wall that.

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<v Speaker 4>She had previously said was an American that she said

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<v Speaker 4>was nonsense, that she had not support.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's saying build the wall, and I had to laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have thought of this earlier so we could

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<v Speaker 4>actually bring you the clip. But I played it on

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<v Speaker 4>the US Report on Friday. The Energy Secretary in the

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<v Speaker 4>US being asked if it was, of course a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 4>being so Kamala previously was not in support of the wall,

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<v Speaker 4>said it was an American. Now she's saying she's going

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<v Speaker 4>to continue building the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it any different?

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<v Speaker 4>And the Energy Secretary said, well, Donald Trump's version of

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<v Speaker 4>the wall was nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, We're going to build it properly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, a wall is a wall, like it's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of a border or of fence or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is to stop people crossing a border. But the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats are going to build it biglier and better. And

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<v Speaker 4>the other thing, of course, to her, remember is that

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<v Speaker 4>Texas when they tried to put up yes their own fences,

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<v Speaker 4>barbed wire fences to stop people from crossing from Mexico

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<v Speaker 4>into Texas, the Biden administration went to court to force

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<v Speaker 4>them to take the fences down. And now we meant

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<v Speaker 4>to believe that Harris actually wants to keep building the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>And when she went down to visit the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>she was wearing this necklace that is widely believed to

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<v Speaker 4>be a sixty four thousand US dollar Tiffany necklace.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what you'd wear to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go and visit the sun trying to give the illegals

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<v Speaker 3>a vision of what's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, you like me can move into a middle

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<v Speaker 4>class neighborhood with people who really care about their lawn

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<v Speaker 4>and one day, despite the fact that you can't get

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<v Speaker 4>three words out straight, end up with a sixty four

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<v Speaker 4>grand Tiffany necklace and be in the running for presents.

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<v Speaker 6>The worst part is they know that they can do this. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>The Dems can suddenly pretend and make all these ridiculous

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<v Speaker 5>promises about building a wall and being just as tough

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<v Speaker 5>illegal immigration as that Trump campaign is promising to be,

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 5>because they know the damage is already done. As further

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<v Speaker 5>story the tweet we just read you from Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 5>crunching the numbers, the damage has already done. You've got

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<v Speaker 5>over ten million illegals that have flooded into the country,

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<v Speaker 5>many of them directly into key swing states. These guys

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<v Speaker 5>have already short up their future success and now now

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<v Speaker 5>they can say no, no, we genuinely will be tough

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<v Speaker 5>on the border.

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<v Speaker 3>On her claim that you know, as prosecutor, I prosecuted

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<v Speaker 3>all these illegals, well, she was only able to prosecute

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<v Speaker 3>illegals because someone provided the resources and the policy for

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement to do their job. So she shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>any credit for that either.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they used to call her Kamala the Coop, and

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<v Speaker 4>then that all sort of disappeared when she went off

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<v Speaker 4>to be a rep. And now she's tough on the

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<v Speaker 4>border again. Good luck to you, Good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 4>While we're talking about Kamala Harris, Sir, her husband Doug

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<v Speaker 4>im Hoff, of course, is often seen standing behind her.

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<v Speaker 4>He does his dues and just sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>looks like he's the handbag, which is his role of

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<v Speaker 4>course in this situation. But he fronted up for an

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<v Speaker 4>interview with Jen Saki, who you might remember was a

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<v Speaker 4>former speaking Doctors White House spin doctor for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>She is now on American television and she's interviewing Doug

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<v Speaker 4>asking him, you know, you potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Being the first first.

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<v Speaker 4>Man of the United States and the first second man

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<v Speaker 4>of the United States, you are reshaping masculinity.

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<v Speaker 8>Important part of an interesting part of how people have

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<v Speaker 8>talked about your role here is how your role has

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<v Speaker 8>reshaped the perception of masculinity. And I'm not sure you've

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 8>planned on that, but you are an incredibly supportive spouse.

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<v Speaker 8>Has that been an evolution for you? And do you

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<v Speaker 8>think that's part of the role you might play as

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<v Speaker 8>first Gentleman's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I've started to think a lot about this. I've always

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>been like this. My dad was like this. Your dad

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<v Speaker 1>was like what what does he mean?

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<v Speaker 4>My dad was like this newsflash, man supports wife, it's

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<v Speaker 4>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe he's doing it?

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<v Speaker 4>But he may well actually be reshaping masculinity When you

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<v Speaker 4>look at some of the blokes who are supporting Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Do.

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<v Speaker 4>You remember the day you lost your dignity when you

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 4>filmed that?

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<v Speaker 1>To put it up on TikTok or wherever it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you sitting around at night?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm reshaping masculinity is the potential?

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<v Speaker 1>First jed, what does he want to be?

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<v Speaker 3>In response to that interimate, someone wrote on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>if any man is influenced by this guy, then they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't a man.

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<v Speaker 2>To begin with.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was very good, but I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats can't tell you what a woman is.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do they know what a man?

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>In this way to be able to redefine masculinity.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of Feta energy there in that interview.

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<v Speaker 5>Very strong, very strong vibes in an American first, now

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<v Speaker 5>staying in America, and some good news for humanity. In

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 5>my humble opinion, this is how we win in an

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 5>American first. Young men are now more religious than young women.

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<v Speaker 6>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 5>A quote from the New York Times says, for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time in modern American history, young men are now

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<v Speaker 5>more religious than their female peers. They attend services more

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 5>often and are more likely to identify as religious. Another

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 5>article puts it thus, gen Z men pour into church

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 5>pews more often than women, flipping the trend on faith.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the Lord doing well, whatever's happening?

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<v Speaker 6>More of this, please.

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<v Speaker 5>Because as we've discussed with these young men, this phenomenon

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 5>of young men being drawn to Islam and these really

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 5>hardcore faiths, it seems the same is happening with Christianity

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 5>here in this society, in this day and age that

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 5>we've created in the West, where everything is identity less,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 5>your religion is meaningless, it's all just a pile of nonsense.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 6>Your gender can change on a whim.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 5>Family, patriotism, nationalism, everything's.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 6>Been thrown out the window.

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 5>Young people are going looking for meaning purpose in their lives,

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<v Speaker 5>and the more they turn to the religion, so much

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<v Speaker 5>the better.

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<v Speaker 6>I say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting though, because it's young men going to

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 4>church as opposed to young women. Women are turning away

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 4>from the church. So the Good Lord is baggering things

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<v Speaker 4>up a little bit before we all's chairs.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, we don't know that that's happening. We just

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 5>know now that there's more men than they used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>So it doesn't suggest that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Say suggest the reporting is saying that there is a

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 4>decrease in women going to church and an increase in

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 4>men going to church. I think it's least about the

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<v Speaker 4>religion itself. It's about the fact that as a culture

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<v Speaker 4>we have demonized men and masculinity to the point where

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<v Speaker 4>young men in particular feel raddleus and they're looking for

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<v Speaker 4>something to hold on to because in a world that

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<v Speaker 4>now tells them that their place in the world as

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<v Speaker 4>a man is invalid, that somehow inherently as part of

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<v Speaker 4>being a man, they're probably going to want to beat

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<v Speaker 4>their future partner that everything that makes them a man,

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<v Speaker 4>their strength, their want to protect family and country, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Is bad.

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<v Speaker 4>They need to find something to anchor themselves to. I

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<v Speaker 4>suspect that is why young men in particular would be

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<v Speaker 4>flocking to religion, because in the absence of anything else,

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<v Speaker 4>they're very being being challenged.

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<v Speaker 1>They need something to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's definitely true.

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<v Speaker 3>Popular culture basically teaches young men that they are effeminate,

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<v Speaker 3>weak and immature and keeps them that way, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>discovering the Bible actually upholds the value of women and men,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 3>and the Bible actually celebrates the differences between the two

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 3>whilst admit that both are equally made in the image

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<v Speaker 3>of God.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I think that is appealing.

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<v Speaker 3>To young men, and I've spoken to a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people in media and politics lately who say we've started

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<v Speaker 3>going to church for the first time, and when I

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<v Speaker 3>ask them why, they say, because over the last number

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<v Speaker 3>of years, we've realized evil is real and we are

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<v Speaker 3>convinced maybe there is more to this world than what

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing with it, and so we're open to spiritual things.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 3>And I think young men in particular, I'm looking at

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 3>what's happening in the world right now and thinking, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I'm open to exploring and understanding if there's

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<v Speaker 3>something more going on and that I think is probably

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<v Speaker 3>contributing as well.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break. When we come back, we'll.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Look at what's making news tomorrow, including the mayor of

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<v Speaker 3>Alice Springs has taken on a part time second job

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<v Speaker 3>in order to pay the bills that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up in just a moment. Welcome back.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>start with the Courier mail who are counting down Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>to the state election.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, as are most queenslander Is because they can't get

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<v Speaker 4>away to get rid of that giggling little bugger on

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<v Speaker 4>the front of the paper. There. Yeah, but they say

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow first strike medi Scare countdown begins with union's fear

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 4>campaign over health privatization. Gee, where have we heard this

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 4>one before? Around Hollensland's largest union has launched a medi

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 4>scare style campaign that falsely claims the LNP plans to

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 4>privatize health services. Ahead of Premier Stephen Miles firing the

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<v Speaker 4>starter's gun on the official election campaign today with twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five days to go, I mean, you know, the desperation

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<v Speaker 4>to pull out medi scare again, which, of course Bill

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 4>Shorten tried on back in twenty nineteen. He then ended

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<v Speaker 4>up losing the unlosable election. It may have had nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with medi Scare. But like truth in advertising,

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<v Speaker 4>and we talk about misinformation and disinformation laws that the

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<v Speaker 4>federal government wants to include, they're not going to come

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<v Speaker 4>after political speech or political.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Campaigns, are they.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 4>So you can go around saying that your opposition candidate

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<v Speaker 4>killed their dog and whatever else, and there's no repercussions

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 4>for that whatsoever. But of course if you go on

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 4>social media and say something, you're in the firing line.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean, while you can spell they're going to privatize

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<v Speaker 4>all the medical services.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rubbish.

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 3>The poles are so bad their electoral strategy, clearly from

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<v Speaker 3>this point is just throw as much mud against the

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 3>wall as they possibly can and if some of it sticks, well,

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 3>good luck to them. Because before it was Madi scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember last week? I think it was that

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>they were warning the LNP are going to ban abortion,

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 3>women's rights are going to be trashed, and the l

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>ANDP have never suggested doing any such thing. Now they

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<v Speaker 3>do have numbers of MPs who are pro life, but

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't put forward as a policy position to end abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just more mud against the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all Steven Miles has pretty much got at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, and in the same article in which that's featured,

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 5>there's a direct reprieve from Chris A. Fooley saying no

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 5>such thing is going to be happening, much like this

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 5>article in The Career mal which says that these claims

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 5>are baseless. There's an advertising blitz on social media that

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<v Speaker 5>the LMP is planning to privatize health services.

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<v Speaker 6>It's completely bases.

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<v Speaker 5>As Rod's Bates, the opposition Health Minister has pointed out,

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<v Speaker 5>Labor and the unions can't even get their scare campaigns straight,

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<v Speaker 5>so you're quite right. They're genuinely just making up whatever's

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<v Speaker 5>going to make headlines, scare enough ignorant Queenslanders into voting

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 5>labor at the polls, and it's just a bunch of lives.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon Queenslanders would be happy with this new strategy

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 3>from the Males government because go back a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks prior to all of this and they were just

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<v Speaker 3>throwing money left, right and center. So better throw mud

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 3>than money, because that's cheaper for taxpayers. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>the Northern Territory News where the headline reads pay pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>wage review push as Northern Territory mayor takes on a

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 3>second job. Sure, I don't think that's a bad idea

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<v Speaker 3>for our federal politicians. Imagine if they all had second

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<v Speaker 3>jobs where they had to actually go and do real working.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 5>Around at Bunny that's in Aisle five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, the article reads, after revelations Ali Springs mayor

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<v Speaker 3>has taken on a second job, questions around the low

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 3>wages of mayors and councilors in the Northern Territory have

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<v Speaker 3>been raised.

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<v Speaker 2>There's calls now for how lack of.

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<v Speaker 3>Benefits for elected members meant the sector would struggle to

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<v Speaker 3>attract good candidates. Now, Matt Patterson is the al Springs mayor.

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 3>He's been the mayor since twenty twenty one, when he

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 3>was elected at age thirty. He's an electrician by trade,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 3>so I am imagining he's doing some some cashies jobs

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 3>as a sparky. The mayor's wage at twenty twenty two

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three was eighty seven six hundred dollars. It's

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 3>not a great wage, So look after the mayor if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be the mayor of Alice Springs, given

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<v Speaker 3>the money to do the job, so he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the moonlight fixing people's fuses.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not unprecedented for mayors to also have other jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>I know when I was covering councils in Adelaide that

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<v Speaker 4>there were a few mayors that did have other jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>including in the public service, that were quite well paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got your little top up on top of

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>that and how bad we.

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>All the problems in Alice Spring But yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's it's a hands on job being the air

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 4>of Alice Springs. And if you're just an ordinary counselor

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 4>in Alice Springs and you know, far be from me

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 4>usually to say that councilors deserve anything, but just as

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<v Speaker 4>an ordinary counselor. In twenty twenty two to twenty three

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<v Speaker 4>it was fifteen thousand, seven hundred dollars. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is like you, as a councilor, you are

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 4>working full time in another job anyway, unless you're retired

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:33.959
<v Speaker 4>or a stay at.

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<v Speaker 1>Home or whatever it is.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 4>But to then get fifteen grand to do all the

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 4>stuff that you have to do as a counselor, sending

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 4>mail outs to residents, doing all the stuff that you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to do, that is not a lot of money.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 4>If you want them to be hands on, you do

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 4>actually have to pay them to be hands on. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I like the system they have in Queensland

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<v Speaker 4>where they have much larger councilors.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Brisbane Council. It covers pretty much, yeah,

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's covers pretty much all of Greater Brisbane. It's got

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>more than a million people in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Consequently, it has the money and wherewithal to run the

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 4>public transport system up there as opposed to the state government.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 4>And the counselors are on about two hundred grand a

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 4>year and they work full time, they have portfolios, They

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 4>actually look after stuff and do stuff, rather than the

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 4>piddly stuff that we expect counselors to do across the

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 4>rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 5>At the front page of the Canberra Times and we

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 5>learn yet more about the fact that our government is

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 5>not about transparency at all.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 6>Gag clauses on rise.

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<v Speaker 5>The splash reads lawyers and alleged victims of workplace bullying

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<v Speaker 5>and abuse in the public sector.

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<v Speaker 6>So the Commonwealth is.

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<v Speaker 5>Using confidentiality clauses to silence those who have been mistreated

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 5>Gordon Legal, head of Industrial Law Marcus Clayton, who runs

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<v Speaker 5>employment law cases for victims of bullying, sexual assault and

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 5>harassment in the public and private sectors, said it was

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 5>quote very common end quote for Commonwealth employers to insert

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 5>secrecy clauses in settlement agreements. He goes on to say

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<v Speaker 5>the effect of the two together he's talking about also

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 5>separately a non disparagement clause, the effect of the two

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 5>together is to gag to silence the complainant. I thought

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 5>they were all about transparency. I thought someone who had

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:31.959
<v Speaker 5>suffered bullying and sexual harassment while on the taxpayer dime

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 5>and employed by somebody else on the taxpayer dime would

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 5>be able to tell their story.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 6>So we can ferret this out and all be.

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Rightly outraged and stand by the victims. No, no, just

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 5>gag clauses, non disparagement clauses and.

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<v Speaker 6>A nice little settlement paypacket. Thank you very much. Please

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 6>don't say anything ever about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodbye. I agree with your sentiment.

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 3>My only question is when you're talking about bullying and

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 3>harassment are they're often great areas where you know you

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't prove it in a court of law.

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 2>So therefore, all right, look, we will pay you.

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 3>But in return you agree we don't speak of this again,

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 3>and that arrangement is done because it's a little bit

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 3>gray and there's not an outright acknowledgment on either side

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 3>of what's actually happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also done for the protection of the department.

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<v Speaker 4>And this goes on in the private sector all the

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 4>time as well, as it's not like it's unique to government.

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 4>But I think the point is that if the federal

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 4>government then wants to go and complain about how people

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 4>are treated in the private sector, then they need to

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 4>look inwardly first before they start making those complaints very quickly,

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<v Speaker 4>before we go to the break on the front of

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<v Speaker 4>The Australian tomorrow, it says anger in Heartland and Alpe

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<v Speaker 4>to blame.

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<v Speaker 1>The face of Australia's largest liberties.

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 4>Muslim organization has questioned Pennywong's fitness to serve and said

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 4>labor had itself to blame for Muslim voters abandoning it

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 4>as he encouraged people to vote with their conscience amid

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 4>pro Palestine dependence looking.

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<v Speaker 1>To topple the alp Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a spare of thought for poor old Penny

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Wong here. You know, on one side she's copying it

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 4>from supporters of Israel. He say, look, woman, you have

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 4>equivocated on this the whole damn time. And then the

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 4>Musulims are joining in as well, saying you've equivocated on

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 4>this the whole damn time. The problem is, of course,

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 4>when you try to sit on the fence, you get splinters,

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 4>and that is what Pennywong is starting to discover.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so give us some credit. She's managed to unite

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 3>the country. Everybody agree, doing a terrible job and should go.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, says Kamala Harris is mentally deficient. The media

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 3>are out age, but people just seem to love Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Will show you in just a second, welcome back.

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump keeps saying outrageous things, but Liz, it doesn't

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 3>seem to affect his popularity.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 5>It's certainly going well in Alabama, where he was for

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 5>a college football game recently. Check out the crowd's reaction

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 5>when they realize as Donald J. Trump was in the

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:21.479
<v Speaker 5>stadium and the crowd goes a while at the dead

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 5>red state for a reason. I'm sure he knew he

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 5>was going to receive a very resounding reception there. He

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 5>was also at a rally recently where he basically summed

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.240
<v Speaker 5>up the problems of the nation over the last almost

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 5>four years in one simple little joke.

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden became mentally impaired.

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Kamala was born that way?

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Where's the light?

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<v Speaker 6>Where's the lie?

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<v Speaker 1>How is he wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>He's just saying what everybody thinks, but he's too polite

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<v Speaker 5>to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Trust Trump to troll.

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<v Speaker 3>The crazy thing is that media are more upset about

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<v Speaker 3>that comment and they are about the damage that Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris has done to the country.

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<v Speaker 4>I know exactly, and the damage that Biden has done

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<v Speaker 4>to the country while for the better part of four

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<v Speaker 4>years they propped.

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<v Speaker 1>Him up while he clearly had dementia.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, very quickly before we go, I want to give

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<v Speaker 4>the yae for the day to Adam Vonderhoff, who owns

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<v Speaker 4>the Griffins Hotel in the Adelaide CBD. He has come

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<v Speaker 4>through and every day hero recognizing the problems with the

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<v Speaker 4>cost of living, and he is cutting the prices in

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<v Speaker 4>his pub. I know he's a sky viewer. Adam, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're watching, good luck to you mate. I've enjoyed his

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<v Speaker 4>hospitality before. The Schnitzels have gone from twenty eight bucks

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<v Speaker 4>out of twenty four hand goods that and they have

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<v Speaker 4>capped the cost of everything on the menu at thirty dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>The most expensive thing on the menu is a Porterhouse

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<v Speaker 4>steak for thirty dollars and some beers have been slashed

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<v Speaker 4>from eleven dollars fifty to seven dollars fifty. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>where can you get a pint of beer for seven

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<v Speaker 4>dollars fifty anymore? This bloke deserves anam because he's come

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<v Speaker 4>through for the people of Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 3>Great Australia. That's it from US stick around. Coming up

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<v Speaker 3>in just a moment is the Reader Penny Show.