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Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, We've saved the best for last. The always

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Speaker 2: brilliant Douglas Murray will join to discuss, among other things,

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Speaker 2: today's extraordinary scenes in the Oval Office as President Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump confronted the South African president over his country's racist,

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Speaker 2: anti white policies and violence. Also tonight, an indigenous elder

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Speaker 2: calls out fringe dissident groups blocking major projects. Nick Kata

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Speaker 2: will be here to cover the day's top stories, including

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Speaker 2: the ABC's absurd sexes.

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Speaker 3: And allegations against David Little Crowd. Adam B.

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Speaker 2: Coleman will have the Lakers from the US and later

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Speaker 2: in the hour his is sco filled with celebrity and

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Speaker 2: world news and Lefti's Losing It features a number of

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Speaker 2: totally sane, totally rational activists, but First Victorian Opposition leader

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Speaker 2: Brad Batton has refused to censure the two MPs accused

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Speaker 2: of helping a farmer deliver Premiers just In allan a

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Speaker 2: box of cow manure with a note reading, dearest Jacinta,

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Speaker 2: I have considered your levy and here's my feedback. It's

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Speaker 2: bull dust, love, brutus and family. Liberal mpaser Bev MacArthur

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Speaker 2: and Nicole Werner were referred to the Victorian Parliaments Presiding

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Speaker 2: Office after they escorted the farmer who had attended Tuesdays

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Speaker 2: scrapped the tax rally on parliament House steps, leading the

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Speaker 2: farmer to the Premier's office, where he left the manure

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Speaker 2: behind with the note. Here is what the opposition leader

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Speaker 2: had to say about the incident.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not something I would have done, but what

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Speaker 4: I do know is yesterday people were very, very angry

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the new taxes that are impacting

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Speaker 5: There is a reason that thousands of.

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Speaker 4: Farmers came from all over Victoria with their fire trucks,

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Speaker 4: with their uniforms to explain to the Victorian government that

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Speaker 4: they are fed up with being the feeding cow for

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Speaker 4: this government's budget.

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Speaker 2: But Premier just Center Allen was outraged by the incident.

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Speaker 6: The couple of Liberal politicians acted in a disgraceful inappropriate

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Speaker 6: condemn that behavior. You know who hasn't condemned that behavior?

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Speaker 6: The leader of the opposition, Brad Batton.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is senior fellow at the Mensies Research Center.

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Speaker 2: Nick cat I've got to say it is a refreshing

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Speaker 2: change to have a liberal leader who actually sticks up

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Speaker 2: for his MPs like his unlike his predecessor. But what

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Speaker 2: do you think about this entire incident, this manure stunt.

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Speaker 7: Whenever somebody on the left called something inappropriate, it really

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Speaker 7: wants to to make you want to do more of it,

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Speaker 7: doesn't it really? And that you know in the end,

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Speaker 7: I mean, what Bev MacArthur and her colleague were doing

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Speaker 7: were delivering a message from the farming community that just

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Speaker 7: sind Allen has just not been listening to. I'll be surprised, actually, incidentally,

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Speaker 7: if she even knew what was in the box without

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Speaker 7: to a farm or to the country. So she behaves

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Speaker 7: like somebody who's got no regard whatsoever for our farmers

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Speaker 7: and has stick to this completely unfair tax on them

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Speaker 7: for firefighting and so forth, when they are the most

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Speaker 7: she has she's absolutely deaf to anything that happens outside

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Speaker 7: takes to get the message home, well let's bring a

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Speaker 2: Now to a rather bizarre accusation leveled at National's leader

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Speaker 2: David Little Proud by the ABC's Patricia Carvellis, it's a question.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of blokes have been

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Speaker 5: To be nice, if I coul asked some question.

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Speaker 8: Patricia Carvellos, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I've just observed this.

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Speaker 6: I'd actually like to ask you, David Little Proud actually

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Speaker 6: if you at mine.

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Speaker 2: But Nick, the first question in that little press conference

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Speaker 2: question immediately before Patricia Carvellis's question. Indeed, I think there

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Speaker 1: So you're getting back together?

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Speaker 5: No, this all our time, the.

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Speaker 2: Announcement of these portfolio allocations.

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Speaker 1: You can see that you've got the.

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Speaker 9: Garments abilities like nuclear are I have got to go

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Speaker 9: to the legal party there under review, are about to

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Speaker 9: be under review, the subject to review.

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Speaker 1: If it is a no, what then?

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Speaker 4: Why was this decision made with haste?

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday one McKenzie if we.

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Speaker 2: Ken Nick there seems to be an overeagerist to keep

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Speaker 2: I would argue in that setting it certainly didn't exist

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sick of this women explaining, you know, women

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Speaker 7: thinking they could explain to us men, what's what you know?

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's the sort of attitude here, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: I'm a woman, I get special rights to ask questions

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Speaker 7: asked really stupid ones. You know, it is just ridiculous

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Speaker 7: that it has come to this, particularly when it's quite

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Speaker 7: interested to see seven thirty Report. I've caught the seven

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Speaker 7: thirty Report a couple of nights this week, when you know,

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Speaker 7: a female host interviewed two female politicians, one of whom

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Speaker 7: is a leader of the Liberal Party right now and

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Speaker 7: perfectly normal nowadays, nobody sort of thought that's two women.

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Speaker 7: I certainly didn't until Petia Carvellis raised this. I really

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've had nights on this program where every

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Speaker 2: guest is female. It's not typically the way, but it's

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Speaker 2: never planned and it's never a box ticking exercise. You

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Speaker 2: just get who you want to speak to. I would

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Speaker 2: have thought that would be the way to go. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Victorious on more. This week's Victorian state

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Speaker 2: budget has revealed that the Victorians are paying more taxes

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Speaker 2: than anywhere else. Victoria's taxes as a percentage of the

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Speaker 2: economy have grown faster than any other state or territory,

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Speaker 2: with Victoria's one point six percent hike making the state's

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Speaker 2: raking in a whopping forty six billion dollars each year

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Speaker 2: through taxation. And yet we still have the biggest debt

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Speaker 1: It's astounding, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: I Mean, Victoria's a very fast growing state, large thanks

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Speaker 7: largely to immigration, that's increasing revenue all the time. There's

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Speaker 7: no excuse for this sort of levee on the taxpayers

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Speaker 7: of Victoria, and I one of they're leaving and because

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Speaker 7: you know, I mean, what does she do with the

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Speaker 7: money here in New South Wales. I don't want you

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Speaker 7: to get tunnel envy here as a Victorian, but we

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Speaker 7: I think it'll soon be the longest when we finish

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Speaker 7: the new Cross Harbor Tunnel, all done with no additional

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Speaker 7: How can we can do it in New South Wales

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Speaker 7: and they can't do it in Victoria. It just seems

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Speaker 7: to me that there's a degree of incompetence which is

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Speaker 7: entrenched in the way the Victorian government operates. And it

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Speaker 7: really is. You know, if there's anywhere we need a

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Speaker 2: Oh you'd have a You'd have a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: if you had that role here. There is a lot

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Speaker 2: of bureaucratic fat to cut moving along now. Former Prime

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Speaker 2: Ministerial Indigenous Policy Advisor and Elder Roy Ac has worn

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Speaker 2: that fringe activists establishing dissident groups to block major projects

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Speaker 2: and delegitimize the network of one hundred and twenty one

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Speaker 2: land councils across New South Wales that are by law

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Speaker 2: the former Environment Minister Tania plivsec listen to one of

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Speaker 2: these fringe disis groups when making the decision to block

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Speaker 2: Regis's one point three billion dollar gold mine proposal. Nick,

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Speaker 2: you'll remember the orange Land Council warned Plivasec that there

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Speaker 2: was no evidence for the activist group's claims that the

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Speaker 2: gold mine would disrupt a blue banded be dreaming story,

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Speaker 2: but she disregarded their advice and lock the mining project.

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Speaker 2: And this would have delivered tens of millions in royalties

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Speaker 2: for the New South Wales government, so many well paying

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Speaker 2: jobs in a regional area. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: this issue, because it's not just isolated to this particular

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Speaker 7: I'm glad roy I See has called this out because

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Speaker 7: we've been noticing this for a long time. Blainey being

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Speaker 7: the most obvious example where there's sort of pop up

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Speaker 7: aboriginal representative body can suddenly block this very lucrative project

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Speaker 7: that would have brought wealth and royalties and everything else

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Speaker 7: to Australia, and Tanye Plibersek was silly enough to fall

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Speaker 7: for it. I mean, did you really think this was

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Speaker 7: of activists. But the thing is, it's become lucrative reacher.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you've managed to form one of these

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Speaker 7: of the arrest but you are actually the original owners

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Speaker 1: Lots and lots of money in order to run this thing.

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Speaker 7: It really has become a money making engine on the

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Speaker 7: are perfectly good and perfectly sound and will bring lots

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Speaker 2: You know, it's they're almost always they're almost always anti development,

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Speaker 2: whatever the development is. The politics of these groups are

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Speaker 2: very similar across the board, Nick Cata, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time tonight. Thank you joining me now

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Speaker 2: is best selling author Douglas Murray. His latest book on

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Speaker 2: has hit the shelves. Get yourself as a copy Douglas.

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Speaker 2: We had some extraordinary scenes today in the Oval Office

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Speaker 2: where President Donald Trump, in front of the media sought

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Speaker 2: to shame the South African president with the ugly truth

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Speaker 2: of the anti white, anti boa racism and violence in

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Speaker 2: his country. He played a clip showing, among other things,

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Speaker 2: politicians calling for white farmers to be killed. Astonishing killed

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Speaker 2: the boa killed the farmer. Douglas. The South African president

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Speaker 2: he was played fairly lengthy video showing otherwise, that's right.

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Speaker 10: By the way, the position the South African president had

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Speaker 10: there must be now the least desirable seat in any

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Speaker 10: Zelenski mark two. It was a fascinating exchange and of

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Speaker 10: course the denial from the South African government is not new.

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Speaker 10: This is something that they have done for years. They've

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Speaker 10: allowed the most appalling anti.

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Speaker 1: White racism to go on in their country.

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Speaker 10: They still, all these decades after the end of apartheid,

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Speaker 10: find it very very useful and indeed easy to allow

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Speaker 10: anti white racism to run rampant and often with lethal consequences.

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Speaker 10: I'm very glad that President Trump did call this out.

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Speaker 10: It's maybe only President Trump among all world leaders, really

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Speaker 10: could have done so, and done so so forcefully. But

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Speaker 10: I would just look to the backlash that I would

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Speaker 10: expect in the coming day for much of the media internationally,

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Speaker 10: not just in South Africa about this. I've already seen that,

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Speaker 10: you know, papers like The Guardian are saying, you know,

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump pushing conspiracy theories about the killing white South

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Speaker 1: There's something that has to be said. Kent police, who

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Speaker 10: Correlation, isn't there between a police force that cannot police

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Speaker 10: Well, of course, if anyone else has said this, if

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Speaker 1: This is as I don't even know if Kis.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Douglas, before you go, you've written a superb piece

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, the interesting thing with the American media

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Speaker 10: after all, and how.

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Speaker 1: Could we have known? There were no signs, nothing to

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Speaker 1: tell us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it doesn't matter. Suddenly they've got the breaking news.

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Speaker 2: And it's been fascinating to see the reception they're getting

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Speaker 2: from other leftist media who are treating all this as

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Speaker 2: if it's some revelation when the rest of the country

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Speaker 2: has known this, as we have discussed for years. Douglas Murray,

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Speaker 2: always a pleasure to speak with you. Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you still to come.

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Speaker 2: Left ease losing it plass The latest from the US,

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Speaker 2: including Marco Room Bliss Green Senate testimony. Adam B.

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Speaker 3: Coleman is up next.

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Ruda Panney Show and it's time for

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Speaker 2: lefties losing it. And today Donald Trump pulled off a

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Speaker 2: master stroke in front of the world's media. He's shamed

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Speaker 2: South African President Cyril Rapaposa with the ugly truth of

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Speaker 2: anti white, anti bowl racism and violence in his country,

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Speaker 2: an issue now the world leader is addressing. And he

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Speaker 2: did it by playing a clip showcasing just how grim

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Speaker 2: the situation is in South Africa. Turn down the lights,

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Speaker 2: turn the.

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Speaker 5: Lags down, turn the lights down, and just put this on.

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Speaker 3: It's right behind you.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that saw the lefto media lose it en

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Speaker 2: mass apparently white farmers being targeted, being killed, having their

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Speaker 2: land taken with our compensation. It's all a conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: Here is the thoroughly detestable Nicole Wallace on MSNBC.

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Speaker 11: Today, Donald Trump meeting with the President of South Africa

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Speaker 11: and attempting to ambush and humiliate that leader inside the

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Speaker 11: Oval office. But what he did instead was embarrassed and

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Speaker 11: humiliate the people of the United States of America. Again,

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Speaker 11: in his meeting with President Raviposa, Trump peddled unsubstantiated claims

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Speaker 11: of genocide in South Africa of white South Africans, a

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Speaker 11: group that ruled during apartheid in South Africa. It is

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Speaker 11: a fringe conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory, what like the virus coming from a lab

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Speaker 2: or Joe Biden's suffering cognitive decline. Yiss, it's just a

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Speaker 2: another conspiracy here theory. Let's check in on the sort

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Speaker 2: of scenes witness in the South African Parliament.

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Speaker 1: We can do whatever you want to do. Who are

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Speaker 1: you to tell us whether we can occupy.

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Speaker 5: Lent or not?

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Speaker 1: Who are going to occupy land? South African occupy Lent.

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Speaker 1: That's who we are.

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Speaker 2: And here Julius Malema, parliamentarian and leader of the Economic

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Speaker 2: Freedom Fighters, says that they must be killing, must never.

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Speaker 9: Be scared to kill, and revolution demand that at some

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Speaker 9: point they must be killing because the killing is part

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Speaker 9: of a revolutionary act.

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Speaker 2: And here is a stadium full of people all chanting

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Speaker 2: kill the boer, kill the farmer. Now, this week's Secretary

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Speaker 2: of State marc or Arubio's Senate Committee hearing was interrupted

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Speaker 2: by rational totally saying protesters making valid points. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I just it was the usual left.

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Speaker 12: He's losing it.

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Speaker 2: Weapons joining me now is wrong speak? Publishing founder Adam B.

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Speaker 2: Coleman Adam. We covered the amazing scenes in the Oval

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Speaker 2: Office earlier today with Douglas Murray. I want to play

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Speaker 2: you in exchange between Senator Tim Kaine and Secretary of

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Speaker 2: State Marco Arubia earlier in the week about the few

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Speaker 2: dozen South African farmers granted asylum in the US. This

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Speaker 2: has really upset many on the left.

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Speaker 13: I have a different standard based upon the color of

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Speaker 13: somebody's skin.

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Speaker 5: Would that be except well.

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Speaker 14: I'm not the one arguing that.

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Speaker 5: Apparently you are because you don't.

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Speaker 14: Know the fact that they're righting Whether to say that

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Speaker 14: that would be on well, no, I would say in

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Speaker 14: the United a very easy thing. In the United States

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Speaker 14: has a right to pick and choose who they allowing

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Speaker 14: to even based on the color of somebody's skin. You're

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Speaker 14: the one that's talking about the color of their skin,

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Speaker 14: not me. These burned down and they were killed in

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Speaker 14: hand the color of their skin. Well, well, you've demonstrated

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Speaker 14: enough because you think anyone should be allowed into this

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Speaker 14: country for any reason, because they who has said that

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Speaker 14: we are going to prioritize people are coming to our

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Speaker 14: country on the basis of what's in the interest of

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Speaker 14: this country. That's a small number of people that are coming.

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Speaker 1: But you said said this week and then.

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Speaker 14: But in other course it's harder to vet an other case.

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Speaker 14: That's more difficult. And by the way, the United States

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Speaker 14: admits people every year, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who has taken note of what is happening in

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Speaker 2: South African recent years knows full well the discriminatory laws,

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Speaker 2: the violence targeted towards what lad holders in particular. Why

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Speaker 2: are the Democrats and so many in the media so

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Speaker 2: eager to deny this and so perturbed by this small

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Speaker 15: Well, it's because the Democratic Party is once again playing

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Speaker 15: identity politics, and there are terms of identity politics. Anyone

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Speaker 15: who is white cannot be oppressed. They can only be oppressors,

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Speaker 15: and they cannot see someone who looks like me or

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Speaker 15: darker than myself as being someone who is oppressing someone else.

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Speaker 15: And the reality is that, yeah, some of these people

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Speaker 15: are facing discrim discrimination and threats because of their skin color,

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Speaker 15: So I really wouldn't care if it was someone who

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Speaker 15: was being oppressed because of their skin color, the religious background,

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Speaker 15: or any other factor. The fact is Marco Ruby was

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Speaker 15: making the point that these people are coming through because

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Speaker 15: they're under threat. They are coming through because they are

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Speaker 15: actual refugees coming from their nation, so they seem to

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Speaker 15: be legitimate to me. I really don't care where someone

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Speaker 15: comes from, as long as they go through the process.

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Speaker 5: It can come to the United States, and.

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Speaker 2: It seems that Democrats are preoccupied with the skin color.

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Speaker 2: They're accusing the Republicans of favoring them because they're white.

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Speaker 2: But really these are the only refugees, the early asylum

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Speaker 2: seekers you can think of that the Democrats don't want

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Speaker 2: to help, and you have to wonder why isn't because

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Speaker 2: of their skin color. But Marco Arubia wasn't done yet.

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Speaker 2: He then went scorched earth on Democrat Senator Chris van Holland,

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Speaker 2: who you'll remember a few weeks ago went down to

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Speaker 2: El Salvador to visit a deported MS thirteen gang banger.

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Speaker 13: Now I have to tell you directly and personally that

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Speaker 13: I regret voting for you for Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: I yield back.

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Speaker 5: I respond, you meet it.

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Speaker 14: Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me

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Speaker 14: confirms I'm doing a good job.

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Speaker 5: In the case of El Salvador.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely, we deported gang members, gang members, including the

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Speaker 14: one you had a margarita with, and that guy is

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Speaker 14: a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger, and

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Speaker 14: that and the evidence is going to be clear and

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Speaker 14: the data. Rubio has the floor, Chairman, he can't make

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Speaker 14: unsubstantiated Senator like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor.

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Speaker 1: Rubio should take that testimony.

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Speaker 14: The federal senator states, well, it hasn't done it under oath.

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Speaker 14: Here's another point, Okay, there is a division in our

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Speaker 14: government between the federal branch and the judicial branch. No

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Speaker 14: judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the

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Speaker 14: president how to conduct foreign policy.

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Speaker 2: Mark Gruvio is in fine form these days, OTAM. But

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Speaker 2: it seems Trump's team has adopted his style. They're not

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Speaker 2: backing down, they're bold, they're not trying to appease their

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Speaker 2: ideological opponents. And I've got to say it's pretty effective.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very much so effective when you do the

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Speaker 15: thing that the voters actually wanted you know, there is

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Speaker 15: a mandate that was put in place. A lot of

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Speaker 15: Americans saw what was going on through the southern border.

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Speaker 15: They saw what was happening in the local communities, happening

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Speaker 15: within their cities. This is a very popular choice to

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Speaker 15: actually strengthen our borders to get rid of people who

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Speaker 15: should not be here. And the fact is that the

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Speaker 15: Democrats have played this game of doing the opposite of Trump,

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Speaker 15: even if Trump is right, and so everyone is well

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Speaker 15: aware that the Democrats are on the losing side of

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Speaker 15: this issue. There is no winning when it comes to

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Speaker 15: simping for illegal immigrants and traveling to foreign nations and

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Speaker 15: pretending like these people are your constituents.

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Speaker 5: And I really truly hope that the.

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Speaker 15: People who voted for that senator really regret their vote

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Speaker 15: for him, because it's very clear he cares more about

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Speaker 15: foreigners than he does about the American citizens or the

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Speaker 15: legal immigrants who are.

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Speaker 5: In this nation.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the mandate that the Trump administration has,

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Speaker 2: and here is a Vice President Jdans explaining that the

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Speaker 2: courts cannot be allowed to set policy. To essentially frustrate

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Speaker 2: that mandate.

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Speaker 13: You cannot have a country where the American people keep

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Speaker 13: on electing immigration enforcement, and the courts tell the American

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Speaker 13: people they're not allowed to have what they've voted for.

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Speaker 13: And that's where we are right now. We're going to

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Speaker 13: keep working it through the immigration court process, through the

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Speaker 13: Supreme Court as much as possible. And look, success to

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Speaker 13: me is not so much in number, though obviously I'd

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Speaker 13: love to see the gross majority of the illegal immigrants

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Speaker 13: who came in under Biden deported.

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Speaker 2: Adam, is that what's happening here a judicial insurrection of sorts,

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Speaker 2: where the courts are usurping the will of the American people.

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Speaker 5: That's what it appears to be.

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Speaker 15: It appears to be lower courts, circuit courts are challenging

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Speaker 15: every move that Donald Trump is trying to make within

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Speaker 15: his administration to actually follow through.

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Speaker 5: With the mandate we were just talking about.

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Speaker 15: And part of the problem is that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 15: trying to do it as fast and as large as

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Speaker 15: possible when it comes to these deportations and try to

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Speaker 15: keep up with the speed of the illegal immigrants who

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Speaker 15: came into this nation. So he's facing a large, large

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Speaker 15: hill and it's hard for them to do it as

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Speaker 15: efficiently and effectively when you have these courts who are

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Speaker 15: trying to impose basically constant challenges for things that they

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Speaker 15: are claiming that they can and cannot do, and slowing

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Speaker 15: down the process. The reality is that Joe Biden failed

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Speaker 15: as a president when it came to protecting the border,

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Speaker 15: and we had.

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Speaker 5: Record numbers of people coming through.

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump is trying to in a very expeditiously way,

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Speaker 15: pull these people out of our nation and to protect

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Speaker 15: the citizens of this country and protect our southern border.

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Speaker 15: So of course he's going to face some sort of challenge,

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Speaker 15: whether it's coming to the courts or other means.

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Speaker 2: Now, Adam and Roy to fantastic piece in the New

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Speaker 2: York Post about how no one wields dead black people

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Speaker 2: more enthusiastically than progressive idea logues like the New Jersey Man.

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Speaker 10: You know that because we was a documented to.

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Speaker 1: A lot of undocumented people.

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Speaker 2: Adam, did he really compare ice agents to slave catches

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Speaker 2: and compared illegal immigrants to two slaves?

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Speaker 5: Yes, very much so he did.

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Speaker 15: And as a voter in the state that he's attempted

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Speaker 15: to become the governor in, I would never vote for him.

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Speaker 15: But simple fact that one is recognizing my race and

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Speaker 15: trying to Trump bring up this whole racial rhetoric coming

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Speaker 15: from slavery times, as if they're equitable. The fact is

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Speaker 15: these people were not supposed to come here. The fact

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Speaker 15: is they came here, and now that their party is losing,

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Speaker 15: this is their only constituents that they want to support.

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Speaker 15: And so my issue as a voter is that why

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Speaker 15: do they care more about them than they do about us?

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Speaker 5: Why is he.

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Speaker 15: Standing outside of ice facility, but he's not standing outside

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Speaker 15: of a warehouse where these people are taking American jobs,

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Speaker 15: in particular black jobs from black Americans in Newark, New Jersey,

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Speaker 15: and throughout the state of New Jersey. So no, I

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Speaker 15: do not trust that if this man was to get power,

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Speaker 15: which unlikely, it's unlikely that he will. Man right now

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Speaker 15: is pulling third amongst Democrats. But I do not trust

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Speaker 15: that a progressive like him will get into office and

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Speaker 15: actually care about American citizen like myself and our sovereignty.

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Speaker 15: I think he will do everything possible to basically try

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Speaker 15: to get illegal immigrants to stay, try to get them

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Speaker 15: to become underclass that they have been and within New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems to be a stupid hill to die on, Adam,

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Speaker 2: because the polling on this issue seems to be pretty clear,

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Speaker 2: and the polling has changed over the years, but right

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Speaker 2: now it seems to be that the majority of Americans

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Speaker 2: want to see every illegal immigrant deported, not just the

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Speaker 2: ones convicted of crimes, but every single illegal immigrant deported.

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Speaker 2: But the Democrats are doubling down on this as a

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Speaker 2: policy issue, and I just do not understand why they've

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Speaker 2: picked this, because they're going to lose the argument every

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Speaker 2: single time. Adam B. Coleman, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time. Tonight still to come, King Charles is heading

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Speaker 2: to North America is a reunion with prodigal's son Harry.

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Speaker 2: On the cards, Kinsey Scofield has his details Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: joining me now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey

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Speaker 2: will start with some country music because Morgan Wallen is

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Speaker 2: topping the mainstream music charts, not just the country charts.

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Speaker 2: He's now got thirty eight of the top fifty spots

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Speaker 2: of the US Apple Music Singles Charts. It's incredible country

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Speaker 2: is bigger than Everkinsy.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 16: His new album I'm the Problem only needed one day

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Speaker 16: to become Spotify's most streamed country album of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 16: It's unreal.

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Speaker 8: He's a triumphun tech talk.

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Speaker 16: And you know, his songs often revolve around booze fueled

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Speaker 16: disasters and messy relationships, but he brings his fans along

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Speaker 16: for the ride, like guilty accomplices, and.

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Speaker 8: I think that's why they love him.

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Speaker 16: He's authentic, unapologetic and just super fun.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 2: And I love that performance on Saturday Night Live where

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Speaker 2: he just walked off.

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Speaker 3: He did not.

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Speaker 2: Stand for any of the nonsense. I'd have just stayed

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Speaker 2: for them. In fact, now, as Gayle King celebrates thirteen

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Speaker 2: years at CBS, sources are speculating that her career might

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Speaker 2: be nearing its end. What can you tell.

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Speaker 16: Us, Well, her contract's coming up, and she the return

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Speaker 16: on investment quite simply is not there. She's on the

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Speaker 16: third rated morning show. But don't worry, Rita. I did

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Speaker 16: look it up. I googled it. And NASA accepts applications

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Speaker 16: for their Astronaut Candidate program on an as needed basis,

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Speaker 16: So all hope is not lost. You know, she'll leave

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Speaker 16: and she'll start one of those.

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Speaker 8: Hippie podcasts about good vibes.

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Speaker 16: She could call it Live Laugh Leech where fame, adjacency

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Speaker 16: becomes a full time job or me myself and more

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Speaker 16: me with Gail King, and it will bomb harder than

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Speaker 16: her CNN show with Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Wadia, You're right, She's been very lucky.

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Speaker 2: She has had a very good run. Being Oprah's best

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Speaker 2: mate has paid off. But I do wonder whether that

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Speaker 2: ridiculous little space expedition that her and Katie Perry and

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Speaker 2: a few other famous privileged women went on has done

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Speaker 2: lasting damage to their reputations. We've seeing Katie Perry now

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Speaker 2: become a figure of mockery. People are posting her dance

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Speaker 2: moves and making jokes about her. And now Gail King

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Speaker 2: what could be losing her job? Do you think there's

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Speaker 2: any connection between those two things.

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Speaker 16: I do think so, because I think that people are

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Speaker 16: just sick and tired of her and that wasn't in

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Speaker 16: your face pr stunt that they didn't need or want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gail King was really outspoken about the backlash

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Speaker 2: and claiming it was sexism that people weren't seeing them

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Speaker 2: as astronauts. Now to reports that twenty four year old

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Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson is a telling people that she's engaged to

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Speaker 2: veteran American football coach Bill Belichick, who's a dude who

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Speaker 2: well is not just old enough to be her father,

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Speaker 2: is old enough to be her grandfather. Kinsey, that's right.

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Speaker 16: And one of the reasons why people really do believe

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Speaker 16: that this is true is because he just had a

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Speaker 16: fresh paint job on his boat. That's fueling this speculation.

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Speaker 16: So his boat used to be painted to say eight

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Speaker 16: rings in honor of a Super Bowl titles. Now it

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Speaker 16: says one plus eight rings. I mean, this guy is

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Speaker 16: so much older than Hudson. I wouldn't tempt fait with

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Speaker 16: till death. DUIs part on the wedding bells. That could

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Speaker 16: be any minute.

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Speaker 2: Now, just fifty years between them, that's yeat, that's a

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Speaker 2: few years now. An insider has told The Daily Mail

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Speaker 2: that Hailey and Justin Bieber's marriage has turned ugly, the

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Speaker 2: pair going at each other's throats apparently, and Justin Bieber's

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Speaker 2: revealed that he'd once told Hailey during a fight that

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Speaker 2: should never be on the cover of Vogue. What sort

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Speaker 2: of a thing is that to say during a fight? Bizarre?

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Speaker 16: And to announce that to the world on the day

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Speaker 16: that they release her Vogue cover which completely hijacked the headlines.

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Speaker 16: She didn't get to have a victory lap about this

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Speaker 16: cover because all anyone wanted to talk about was the

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Speaker 16: nasty way that he treated her and what he said

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Speaker 16: to her. You know, in the same article, the source

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Speaker 16: quotes them as Romeo and Juliet without the warm mid ending.

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Speaker 16: You know, calling them Romeo and Juliet does not make

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Speaker 16: it romantic. It just means their relationship has a body count.

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Speaker 16: You know, there's nothing romantic about this drama.

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Speaker 2: Now to Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner's daughter Violet. She's

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Speaker 2: written about a tense argument with her famous mom about

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Speaker 2: climate change after her family escaped to a hotel to

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Speaker 2: avoid the smoke from the Los Angeles fires. This is

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Speaker 2: in a candid essay for Yale Kinsey. What else can

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Speaker 2: you tell us?

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Speaker 16: I mean, she calls her brother basically stupid. You know,

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Speaker 16: this paper is so arrogant and condescending. It's really brave

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Speaker 16: for her to speak out about climate change from the

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Speaker 16: comfort of a luxury hotel suite that her famous mother

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Speaker 16: paid for. And it's easy to worry about the ice

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Speaker 16: caps melting when you've never had to worry about paying rent.

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Speaker 16: Her mother is so sweet and was elbowed deep in

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Speaker 16: ash volunteering to rescue people in pets stirring those fires.

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Speaker 16: I don't think she needed a lecture from a Nepo baby.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Nepo babies can be insufferable. Now, sources of

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Speaker 2: told Page six that Taylor Swift will finally have the

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Speaker 2: chance to buy back the original recordings of her first

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Speaker 2: six albums Kinzia. It's going to cost a bit, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: I know? But will she read it?

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Speaker 16: Two years ago, Bloomberg estimated that the re recorded albums

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Speaker 16: had a combined value of forty no, I'm sorry, four

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Speaker 16: hundred million dollars. So she earns royalties from each swimming song,

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Speaker 16: each record sales, album purchases. So the pr war between

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Speaker 16: Taylor and Screw de Braun turned out to be incredibly

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Speaker 16: lucrative for her. Would she rather continue to re record

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Speaker 16: what's left?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do know that she may

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Speaker 2: be called as a witness in the black Lively justin

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Speaker 2: Baldoni case, and that I've got the popcorn ready for

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Speaker 2: because that's going to be good times. But before you go,

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Speaker 2: King Charles and Queen Camilla are coming to North America.

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Speaker 2: There's a great deal of conjecture interest in whether this

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Speaker 2: will mean a reunion with Harry.

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Speaker 12: Is that on the.

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Speaker 16: Cardskinsy when hell freezes over? When hell freezes over.

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Speaker 8: Well that happened.

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Speaker 16: I don't think King Charles wants anything to do with

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Speaker 16: Prince Ari who has never found a camera and a microphone.

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Speaker 8: He hasn't complained about his relatives too. I just don't

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Speaker 8: see that happening anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: But he does have two grandchildren he's probably never seen,

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Speaker 2: or if he's seen very little of, and he's only

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Speaker 2: got two sons. And you're not thinking, given his battling cancer,

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Speaker 2: he should reconsider.

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Speaker 16: Any interaction Prince Harry has with his father. Gives Harry

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Speaker 16: content that he can go sell and you know, whether

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Speaker 16: it's an interview.

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Speaker 8: Remember the second.

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Speaker 16: He met with King Charles, he told, good Morning America,

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Speaker 16: I just saw my father who has cancer. He talked

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Speaker 16: about how these moments can bring people back together. It's

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Speaker 16: content for Prince Harry, and I don't think that the

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Speaker 16: royals trust him.

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Speaker 2: That is an excellent point, and I think probably that's

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Speaker 2: the number one reason why nobody in the family wants

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Speaker 2: to deal with him or Megan, because they don't want

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Speaker 2: to provide more content for the next podcast, the next

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Speaker 2: Netflix series or book. Kinsey Schofield, you now did. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight, and that's all

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Speaker 2: all the time we have. Up Next is Newsnight. I'll

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow night. For Left, he's losing it at nine.