Speaker 1: Oh yes, you have tuned into the Body and Soul
Speaker 1: podcast cat Healthy Ish with Felicity Harley. Now, we have
Speaker 1: been talking a bit on this podcast about longevity lately,
Speaker 1: but when we came across Nick Angerer's approach, we felt
Speaker 1: you needed to hear about it too, because it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different from the rest. Now. Nick is founder
Speaker 1: of a Longer Life, co founder of Sage Women's Health.
Speaker 1: He's our triathlete and holds a PhD. He joins us
Speaker 1: from Iron Bay today to discuss his concept of a
Speaker 1: longevity strategy. Have you got one? If you do like
Speaker 1: what you hear from Nick, tune into Extra Healthy Ish,
Speaker 1: where we talk about all things tech and tests and
Speaker 1: longevity habits. Yes, we do a big deep dive into longevity.
Speaker 1: You can catch that wherever you get your podcasts. Nick,
Speaker 1: nice to have you on Healthy Ish. How's your day being.
Speaker 2: I'm having a beautiful, wonderful sunny day up here in
Speaker 2: Byron Bay.
Speaker 1: I have no complaints, a white rubbedy and hay Byron.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's just heaven up there.
Speaker 3: It is heaven up here. I love it.
Speaker 2: I try to explain to people back home in the
Speaker 2: US how good it is and I don't think words
Speaker 2: ever do it justice.
Speaker 1: No, No, you're right, you have to be there to
Speaker 1: experience it and live it, and no doubt it is
Speaker 1: helping boost your longevity. Tell us why the interest in longevity?
Speaker 3: Yes, so thanks Felicity.
Speaker 2: My interest in longevity stems from quite a personal story
Speaker 2: that I actually just got finished sharing at the Healthy
Speaker 2: Aging Summit in Brisbane just last Friday, and it's about
Speaker 2: a cancer journey. So, when my son was born during
Speaker 2: air insection, my wife was diagnosed with a rare form
Speaker 2: of cancer and she had to have two very significant
Speaker 2: surgeries over a few different years to put that fully
Speaker 2: in remission. And at the same time, in the same
Speaker 2: few months, I had two of my close friends also
Speaker 2: get diagnosed with cancer, so that was three people in
Speaker 2: there late twenties for me, as my son's being born
Speaker 2: welcomed into the world of understanding our mortality, and that
Speaker 2: made me become, after I've made it through all that,
Speaker 2: become quite interested in preventative health screening. So I did
Speaker 2: a real deep dive on preventative health screening and really
Speaker 2: asking the question, why do we have so much technology
Speaker 2: available to us, yet we still have this surprise, you
Speaker 2: have stage four cancer type diagnosis happening to so many people.
Speaker 2: And so I actually was researching the technologies that are
Speaker 2: available for us to catch cancer at a very early stage,
Speaker 2: and I found that not only was that technology quite
Speaker 2: advanced already, but that the primary barrier to its uptake
Speaker 2: was a lack of awareness of it and a demand
Speaker 2: for that type of service.
Speaker 3: So I started.
Speaker 2: Blogging about it in response, and as I did that,
Speaker 2: I got deeper and deeper into this whole realm of longevity,
Speaker 2: finding that it's not just cancer early early stage cancer.
Speaker 3: Diagnoses that we can now accomplish, but.
Speaker 2: We can do much much more, even actually understanding the
Speaker 2: aging process itself, and that it's the primary driver for
Speaker 2: the risk factor for all of these.
Speaker 3: Diseases that end up killing us.
Speaker 2: And that since we're starting to understand what aging is
Speaker 2: and why it happens, in fact, we are now learning
Speaker 2: it's possible to slow, possibly halt, and maybe even reverse
Speaker 2: aspects of aging in the very very near future. So
Speaker 2: I've become very fascinated with the broader topic of longevity
Speaker 2: through that journey.
Speaker 1: How's he wife, by the way she is?
Speaker 3: She?
Speaker 2: Well, Now, we were fortunate to be married for ten years,
Speaker 2: we're no longer married. We do a great job teaming
Speaker 2: up together in my son's life, and she's alive and well.
Speaker 2: We have modern medical technology here to thank for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, especially for your son. So has a mom,
Speaker 1: So he has a mom around. Now, talk to me
Speaker 1: about your whole longevity strategy, because out of this has
Speaker 1: grown this big idea of Okay, now we can go
Speaker 1: about boosting a longevity.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: As I went through that journey of discovering all these
Speaker 2: amazing technologies that we have to detect disease early, I
Speaker 2: also was fascinated by this whole aspect of longevity and
Speaker 2: aging as a bigger story. Finding the technologies that have
Speaker 2: emerged in that space got me quite excited as well.
Speaker 2: But then then I began to realize that I felt
Speaker 2: a bit overwhelmed. I didn't know where to start. There's
Speaker 2: all these amazing things I can be doing. I can
Speaker 2: get a full body MRI, I can get my genome sequenced,
Speaker 2: I can get all sorts of specialized tests done. But
Speaker 2: I only have so much money and time and energy.
Speaker 2: So I didn't know where to start. And this is
Speaker 2: where I came up with the concept of having a
Speaker 2: longevity strategy at a longer Life dot com.
Speaker 3: At my business and Longer Life.
Speaker 2: There's this four part framework that I'm encouraging people to
Speaker 2: work with in order to go on their longevity journey.
Speaker 2: And the second part of that is strategy. And the
Speaker 2: reason you need a strategy is because it's overwhelming. There
Speaker 2: are innumerable options for you to invest your money into.
Speaker 2: Anyone who gets into health and wellness and scrolls on
Speaker 2: Instagram knows they could blow their whole monthly budget with
Speaker 2: just a few purchases.
Speaker 3: In this space. And we need to learn.
Speaker 2: To be very targeted strategic with our longevity efforts. So
Speaker 2: this concept of a longevity strategy, as I go through
Speaker 2: on the website is about starting with understanding your risk,
Speaker 2: your risk for developing age related diseases, and so we
Speaker 2: can actually look at what diseases are grandparents, our parents, brothers, sisters,
Speaker 2: related aunts and uncles have developed. It's called doing a
Speaker 2: family health history as a free and fairly easy starting
Speaker 2: point to get an idea of what diseases we could
Speaker 2: be at risk for, and we could start thinking years
Speaker 2: ahead on how we can modify our lifestyle or engage
Speaker 2: with what I call longevity technologies in a strategic way
Speaker 2: to get ahead of those diseases and potentially avoid them altogether.
Speaker 2: So longevity strategy is getting rid of the overwhelm, it's
Speaker 2: looking at where you should start, and it's targeting your
Speaker 2: resources at the most effective actions that you can start taking.
Speaker 1: Now, I think you made some really important points there. One,
Speaker 1: longevity doesn't have to cost a lot of money. And
Speaker 1: I think you know, often we see the you know,
Speaker 1: Brian Johnson's and the likes spending millions in trying to
Speaker 1: increase their lifespan. But that simple having a longevity strategy.
Speaker 1: And I really like this idea. I haven't heard this
Speaker 1: concept before. Is a great place we can all start
Speaker 1: for free just by asking. I mean many of us
Speaker 1: probably haven't even asked our brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your health like? What have you suffered from? I mean,
Speaker 1: we kind of know, but to actually write it down
Speaker 1: even is just one step further in helping us develop
Speaker 1: a lifestyle around this.
Speaker 3: That's right, felicity, and that's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And it is free, which there's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: I start there, because it is accessible to anyone who
Speaker 2: wants to try that, and we actually have an example
Speaker 2: form that you can download on the website, but there's
Speaker 2: many other versions of that. You can work with your
Speaker 2: GP to do that. You can work with many health
Speaker 2: practitioners to do that. In fact, I went to a
Speaker 2: very fancy, very expensive longevity health clinic in the United
Speaker 2: States twice I've gone now, and the first thing I
Speaker 2: did when I went there was fill out a family
Speaker 2: health history. So it's beginning of your longevity strategy and
Speaker 2: your longevity journey, so you know what to think about
Speaker 2: and how to get ahead of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are some other factors as to it,
Speaker 1: which you might go into in Extra Healthy Ish, But
Speaker 1: before we go, tell us a bit about visiting that
Speaker 1: longevity clinic and what are some of your weekly habits
Speaker 1: to boost your longevity that you perhaps picked out when
Speaker 1: you were over there or that you do now.
Speaker 2: You've given me the most excellent lead into the actual
Speaker 2: outcome from visiting this amazing health nucleus. It was called
Speaker 2: from a company called Health Human Longevity, Inc. In San Diego, California,
Speaker 2: and I spent thousands of dollars to go get a
Speaker 2: full body MRI full genome sequencing complete blood panel, balance testing,
Speaker 2: heart health checks, brain and cardiac MRIs, amazing technology. What's
Speaker 2: the number one thing I walked away with from that visit?
Speaker 3: Nick?
Speaker 2: You need to exercise more. I need to get more
Speaker 2: heart pumping aerobic fitness. Walked away knowing that I had
Speaker 2: to figure that out. I had to figure that out,
Speaker 2: and that meant I needed to boil down the elements
Speaker 2: of what it means to have a longevity fitness effort,
Speaker 2: the components of that. And really it's about finding something
Speaker 2: you love to do that's exercise related and finding some
Speaker 2: wonderful people to do it with so that you keep
Speaker 2: doing it and set yourself some goals.
Speaker 3: And so when.
Speaker 2: You ask about my weekly strategy in the longevity space
Speaker 2: and what am I doing each week, the most important
Speaker 2: thing that I'm doing, the most important, even more important
Speaker 2: than what I'm eating, I believe, is the high level
Speaker 2: of physical activity that I undertake.
Speaker 3: So I'm a triathlete.
Speaker 2: I'm riding, I'm running, I'm swimming, and I'm doing strength training,
Speaker 2: balance training and jumping around working on all those explosive
Speaker 2: type two muscle fibers to keep them young and youthful
Speaker 2: so that I can stay as mobile and as robust
Speaker 2: and healthy for as long as I can, because exercise
Speaker 2: is the best thing we can do for our longevity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Nick, thank you for coming on Healthy.
Speaker 3: Is my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Make sure you tune into Extra Healthy Is too, where
Speaker 1: Nick talks about the best tech tests and lifestyle habits
Speaker 1: to optimize your longevity. You can catch that wherever. Get
Speaker 1: your podcasts.