1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh yes, you have tuned into the Body and Soul 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: podcast cat Healthy Ish with Felicity Harley. Now, we have 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: been talking a bit on this podcast about longevity lately, 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: but when we came across Nick Angerer's approach, we felt 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: you needed to hear about it too, because it's a 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: little bit different from the rest. Now. Nick is founder 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of a Longer Life, co founder of Sage Women's Health. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: He's our triathlete and holds a PhD. He joins us 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: from Iron Bay today to discuss his concept of a 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: longevity strategy. Have you got one? If you do like 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: what you hear from Nick, tune into Extra Healthy Ish, 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: where we talk about all things tech and tests and 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: longevity habits. Yes, we do a big deep dive into longevity. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: You can catch that wherever you get your podcasts. Nick, 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: nice to have you on Healthy Ish. How's your day being. 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm having a beautiful, wonderful sunny day up here in 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Byron Bay. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: I have no complaints, a white rubbedy and hay Byron. 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's just heaven up there. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: It is heaven up here. I love it. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: I try to explain to people back home in the 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: US how good it is and I don't think words 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: ever do it justice. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: No, No, you're right, you have to be there to 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: experience it and live it, and no doubt it is 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: helping boost your longevity. Tell us why the interest in longevity? 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Yes, so thanks Felicity. 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: My interest in longevity stems from quite a personal story 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: that I actually just got finished sharing at the Healthy 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Aging Summit in Brisbane just last Friday, and it's about 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: a cancer journey. So, when my son was born during 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: air insection, my wife was diagnosed with a rare form 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: of cancer and she had to have two very significant 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: surgeries over a few different years to put that fully 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: in remission. And at the same time, in the same 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: few months, I had two of my close friends also 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: get diagnosed with cancer, so that was three people in 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: there late twenties for me, as my son's being born 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: welcomed into the world of understanding our mortality, and that 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: made me become, after I've made it through all that, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: become quite interested in preventative health screening. So I did 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: a real deep dive on preventative health screening and really 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: asking the question, why do we have so much technology 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: available to us, yet we still have this surprise, you 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: have stage four cancer type diagnosis happening to so many people. 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: And so I actually was researching the technologies that are 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: available for us to catch cancer at a very early stage, 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: and I found that not only was that technology quite 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: advanced already, but that the primary barrier to its uptake 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: was a lack of awareness of it and a demand 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: for that type of service. 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: So I started. 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Blogging about it in response, and as I did that, 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 2: I got deeper and deeper into this whole realm of longevity, 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: finding that it's not just cancer early early stage cancer. 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: Diagnoses that we can now accomplish, but. 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: We can do much much more, even actually understanding the 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: aging process itself, and that it's the primary driver for 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: the risk factor for all of these. 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Diseases that end up killing us. 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: And that since we're starting to understand what aging is 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: and why it happens, in fact, we are now learning 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: it's possible to slow, possibly halt, and maybe even reverse 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: aspects of aging in the very very near future. So 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I've become very fascinated with the broader topic of longevity 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: through that journey. 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: How's he wife, by the way she is? 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: She? 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, Now, we were fortunate to be married for ten years, 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: we're no longer married. We do a great job teaming 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: up together in my son's life, and she's alive and well. 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: We have modern medical technology here to thank for that. 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, especially for your son. So has a mom, 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: So he has a mom around. Now, talk to me 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: about your whole longevity strategy, because out of this has 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: grown this big idea of Okay, now we can go 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: about boosting a longevity. 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: Well. 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: As I went through that journey of discovering all these 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: amazing technologies that we have to detect disease early, I 81 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: also was fascinated by this whole aspect of longevity and 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: aging as a bigger story. Finding the technologies that have 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: emerged in that space got me quite excited as well. 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: But then then I began to realize that I felt 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: a bit overwhelmed. I didn't know where to start. There's 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: all these amazing things I can be doing. I can 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: get a full body MRI, I can get my genome sequenced, 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: I can get all sorts of specialized tests done. But 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: I only have so much money and time and energy. 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: So I didn't know where to start. And this is 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: where I came up with the concept of having a 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: longevity strategy at a longer Life dot com. 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: At my business and Longer Life. 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: There's this four part framework that I'm encouraging people to 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: work with in order to go on their longevity journey. 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: And the second part of that is strategy. And the 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: reason you need a strategy is because it's overwhelming. There 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: are innumerable options for you to invest your money into. 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Anyone who gets into health and wellness and scrolls on 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Instagram knows they could blow their whole monthly budget with 101 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: just a few purchases. 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: In this space. And we need to learn. 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: To be very targeted strategic with our longevity efforts. So 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: this concept of a longevity strategy, as I go through 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: on the website is about starting with understanding your risk, 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: your risk for developing age related diseases, and so we 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 2: can actually look at what diseases are grandparents, our parents, brothers, sisters, 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: related aunts and uncles have developed. It's called doing a 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: family health history as a free and fairly easy starting 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: point to get an idea of what diseases we could 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: be at risk for, and we could start thinking years 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: ahead on how we can modify our lifestyle or engage 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: with what I call longevity technologies in a strategic way 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: to get ahead of those diseases and potentially avoid them altogether. 115 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: So longevity strategy is getting rid of the overwhelm, it's 116 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: looking at where you should start, and it's targeting your 117 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: resources at the most effective actions that you can start taking. 118 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Now, I think you made some really important points there. One, 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: longevity doesn't have to cost a lot of money. And 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I think you know, often we see the you know, 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: Brian Johnson's and the likes spending millions in trying to 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: increase their lifespan. But that simple having a longevity strategy. 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And I really like this idea. I haven't heard this 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: concept before. Is a great place we can all start 125 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: for free just by asking. I mean many of us 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: probably haven't even asked our brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts, Okay, 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: what's your health like? What have you suffered from? I mean, 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: we kind of know, but to actually write it down 129 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: even is just one step further in helping us develop 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: a lifestyle around this. 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: That's right, felicity, and that's right, that's exactly right. 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: And it is free, which there's one of the reasons 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: I start there, because it is accessible to anyone who 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: wants to try that, and we actually have an example 135 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: form that you can download on the website, but there's 136 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: many other versions of that. You can work with your 137 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: GP to do that. You can work with many health 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: practitioners to do that. In fact, I went to a 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: very fancy, very expensive longevity health clinic in the United 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: States twice I've gone now, and the first thing I 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: did when I went there was fill out a family 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: health history. So it's beginning of your longevity strategy and 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: your longevity journey, so you know what to think about 144 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: and how to get ahead of it. 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there are some other factors as to it, 146 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: which you might go into in Extra Healthy Ish, But 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: before we go, tell us a bit about visiting that 148 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: longevity clinic and what are some of your weekly habits 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to boost your longevity that you perhaps picked out when 150 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: you were over there or that you do now. 151 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: You've given me the most excellent lead into the actual 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: outcome from visiting this amazing health nucleus. It was called 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: from a company called Health Human Longevity, Inc. In San Diego, California, 154 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: and I spent thousands of dollars to go get a 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: full body MRI full genome sequencing complete blood panel, balance testing, 156 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: heart health checks, brain and cardiac MRIs, amazing technology. What's 157 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: the number one thing I walked away with from that visit? 158 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: Nick? 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: You need to exercise more. I need to get more 160 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: heart pumping aerobic fitness. Walked away knowing that I had 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: to figure that out. I had to figure that out, 162 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: and that meant I needed to boil down the elements 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: of what it means to have a longevity fitness effort, 164 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: the components of that. And really it's about finding something 165 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: you love to do that's exercise related and finding some 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: wonderful people to do it with so that you keep 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: doing it and set yourself some goals. 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: And so when. 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: You ask about my weekly strategy in the longevity space 170 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: and what am I doing each week, the most important 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: thing that I'm doing, the most important, even more important 172 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: than what I'm eating, I believe, is the high level 173 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: of physical activity that I undertake. 174 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 3: So I'm a triathlete. 175 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm riding, I'm running, I'm swimming, and I'm doing strength training, 176 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: balance training and jumping around working on all those explosive 177 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: type two muscle fibers to keep them young and youthful 178 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: so that I can stay as mobile and as robust 179 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 2: and healthy for as long as I can, because exercise 180 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: is the best thing we can do for our longevity. 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Nick, thank you for coming on Healthy. 182 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: Is my pleasure. 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you tune into Extra Healthy Is too, where 184 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Nick talks about the best tech tests and lifestyle habits 185 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: to optimize your longevity. You can catch that wherever. Get 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: your podcasts.