WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 17 March

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Shery,

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<v Speaker 1>loving to see you. Happy Monday. No sooks, no lefties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it's going to be. To night, James Morrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Matt Canavan, and a union buster who knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to go after the CFMAU. We get to that all

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<v Speaker 1>shortly before I get to a lot of news, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of political news, polls, cost of living, all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it. I just want to focus on something

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't get enough national attention. There is a drought

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<v Speaker 1>that is taking place in Victoria right now. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we've talked about extreme weather events being things like

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<v Speaker 1>the extropical cyclone in Queensland. I know it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hot this weekend in Sydney, but I want to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the drought in Victoria because it is causing huge

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<v Speaker 1>troubles for farmers. Right now. Let me show you an

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<v Speaker 1>image not just of one of the farmers here and

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<v Speaker 1>just how dry things are, but just about a drought

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<v Speaker 1>map right now. Now. This will give you an idea

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bureau of Meteorology about the rainfall, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest on record. Severe severe deficiency there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>or serious deficiency. Basically darker the red, the dryer it

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<v Speaker 1>is now as you can see, almost like a third

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<v Speaker 1>almost half of Victoria is in the red. The same

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<v Speaker 1>of course stretches off into South Australia as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>well under the herald sun for looking at this today.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the horrific drought that is gripping Victoria, thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>families are now turning to having to pay for drinking water.

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<v Speaker 1>This is months of no rain that has been taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>Water tanks and dams across Victoria are running dry, prompting

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of households and farmers to now pay for drinking

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<v Speaker 1>water to be trucked in by semi trailers. The water

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<v Speaker 1>comes to towns across the state who continue to struggle

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<v Speaker 1>the worst drout they've had in almost two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know about the different droughts in different parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, but in certain parts of our own

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<v Speaker 1>country it's the worst it's been in twenty years. As

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<v Speaker 1>temperatures are set to sizzled this week, households and livestock

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<v Speaker 1>produces are rash water and buying it in from wherever

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<v Speaker 1>a possible after has to say months of no rain

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<v Speaker 1>now even if it does rain. This is the evaporation map.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent a bit too much time in the bureau's website today,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the evaporation map. The darker, the red,

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<v Speaker 1>the faster, whatever rainfalls is just going to go straight

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<v Speaker 1>back up into the air. Unsurprisingly, the areas that have

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<v Speaker 1>had bugger all rainfall, if they got it well, the

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<v Speaker 1>exact thing would happen again. Even if it fell, it

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<v Speaker 1>had start to go straight back up. Meeting. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not enough to soak the ground or to even

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<v Speaker 1>start to fill whatever balls or dams you might end

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<v Speaker 1>up happening having The Victorian Farmers Federation president is Brett Hosking,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told the Herald Sun today that it's dry

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<v Speaker 1>across vast parts of the state, but especially in the southwest.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence the maps that I've just shown you there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why the need is sitting hardest, because they are now

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<v Speaker 1>facing a feed shortage because of no rain last year

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<v Speaker 1>for the crops, also now water shortage because the dams

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<v Speaker 1>are drying up. Now, this gives me the opportunity to say,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where you are in the country, and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the weather is like outside, you can do your bit

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<v Speaker 1>to help our fellow Aussies and to always take care

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<v Speaker 1>of those people who we know you love, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian farmer. Farm Maide is the charity that does

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<v Speaker 1>everything from financial counseling, emotional support through too getting those

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<v Speaker 1>hay bails out to where they are needed, in this

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<v Speaker 1>case in southwestern Victoria. Their website is farm made dot

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<v Speaker 1>org dot au. When you go to the site, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see this, which is their opening title, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>here to help. Now, what can you do? I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of good causes, but if you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a one off, for fifty dollars, you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy hay to feed the livestock. For one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars, you can have an in person counseling

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<v Speaker 1>session somebody goes out and helps out a farmer. For

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars you can get some clean drinking water

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<v Speaker 1>to these people. Or for five hundred dollars you can

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<v Speaker 1>provide a farm recovery event, meaning an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people can consume into that area, fix up things, fences

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<v Speaker 1>and here bring some water with them. That's a one

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<v Speaker 1>off if you have the cash, if you're able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it monthly. Now For twenty five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month, you will be able to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there is clean drinking water for a family. For fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, you can provide financial assistance packages. For

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five dollars a month, you can provide fodder for animals.

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<v Speaker 1>And for one hundred dollars a month a monthly gift

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<v Speaker 1>will mean in person counselors. All of this matters because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the financial health, it's their mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>So help our farmers please. Rual aid dot org dot

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<v Speaker 1>au is their website. I mentioned this at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the show before we get too hot and heavy

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<v Speaker 1>into the world of politics. And if you are in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular area that is being affected by drought, or

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in regional Australia who thinks they could do with

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<v Speaker 1>the help be at feed, be at water, b at

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<v Speaker 1>the financial counseling or other forms of assistance. One three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred one seven five five nine four rual lai dot

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<v Speaker 1>org got au or all write the number down nice

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<v Speaker 1>and slow for you one three hundred one seven five

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<v Speaker 1>nine five nine four if you're happening to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>us on podcast. Now, as to the politics and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living number one issue in the country. We

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<v Speaker 1>are hot and heavy on this issue because the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister lied his way into office. He did so three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. He promised to or gets ready to do

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<v Speaker 1>so again at this upcoming election. A labor government will

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<v Speaker 1>lower the cost of living. That was the promise from opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality, of course, is something very different. The cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living has become the major issue. We lead with

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<v Speaker 1>it most nights, because how can you not think of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that other people want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy three percent of people say the number one issue

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<v Speaker 1>for them is cost of living. Then it's housing, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course feeds back into cost of living. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>into healthcare. Crime is above the economy and even above

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<v Speaker 1>climate change. But look how far climate change has formed,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning potentially reality might sweep away a few of those

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<v Speaker 1>Greens and teals. As for the amount of money that

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<v Speaker 1>we are spending in our supermarkets, somebody who's put a

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<v Speaker 1>tally together of just how much cost of living has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten worse under the bloke who promised to make it better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strategic battle. The Telegraph today said the grocery

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<v Speaker 1>bills have searched thirty percent during the Alberanzi's government's first term,

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<v Speaker 1>leveling families three thousand dollars a year poorer. Now remember this,

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars on top of the fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>they took away from ten million taxpayers. So see how

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers start. The rise, experts say, the relentless rise

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<v Speaker 1>and the price of consumers staples has transformed what was

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<v Speaker 1>once a routine task now into a strategic battle of

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<v Speaker 1>what can I afford? What can we do without? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>none of this applies to the people who lied their

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<v Speaker 1>way into power, because remember the Prime Minister, the Deputy

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister and all of the people climbing the greasebyy

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<v Speaker 1>poles as his ministers have got not one but three

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<v Speaker 1>pay rises since the last election. They promised to make

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<v Speaker 1>it better. The only people that got better for was them,

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<v Speaker 1>including the bloke is now on over six hundred thousand dollars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>once you start to put in mortgages into that, the

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<v Speaker 1>number goes through the roof. In my view, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>photos of candidates that you either always vote for you

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<v Speaker 1>or you've never heard of, every opposition party should be

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<v Speaker 1>running a fact like this over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 1>localizing it to every electorate in the country because if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a labor mp, they lied their way to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. According to the Financial Review, today, the typical

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<v Speaker 1>family is now nineteen thousand dollars poorer since labour took power.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we talk about it every day. There

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<v Speaker 1>are many families who three years ago would have told you, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got nineteen thousand dollars under the couch, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>just peeling up against the wall. Price rises, elevated mortgage rates,

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<v Speaker 1>income tax bracket creep have combined to deliver the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>fall in living standards on record. Repeat, biggest fall in

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<v Speaker 1>living standards on record. What was their promise, they'll make

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<v Speaker 1>everything better as measured by real household disposable income per person.

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<v Speaker 1>Financial Review hardly some sort of hardcore right wing out

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to say the biggest contributor to the erosion

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<v Speaker 1>household purchasing power is inflation, with the prices of goods

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<v Speaker 1>and services consumed by the average household up fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>in the past three years, real household disposable income down

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<v Speaker 1>almost eight percent. So everything costs more, but the power

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<v Speaker 1>of your dollar to pay for things goes backwards. In

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<v Speaker 1>dollar terms, it's a loss of four eight hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per person between the March quarter and twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>and the December quarter in twenty twenty four. This according

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<v Speaker 1>to the Coalition and their economic analysis, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>is arguing those numbers. Despite the promise of everything getting better,

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<v Speaker 1>everything got worse. And when it comes to the stables

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<v Speaker 1>you're buying, when it comes to the supermarket, that's about

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars backwards. And if you're trying to pay

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<v Speaker 1>off a house, well it is of course the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of well four and four eight hundred dollars per person.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why there is a giant hole. And do

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<v Speaker 1>not let them get away with it. Do not let

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<v Speaker 1>them get away with lying, making everything worse and still

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<v Speaker 1>hoping for your vote. This was the Opposition today on

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<v Speaker 1>this matter with Chris Kenny.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is Australian's paying for a labor government that

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<v Speaker 3>simply can't manage its own budget and we pay the

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<v Speaker 3>price for it. There's an old saying that when left

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<v Speaker 3>wing governments run out of money, they come after yours

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<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly what we are seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Apologies with Pete this morning. Now let's also talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the single greatest source of revenue for the Australian government.

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<v Speaker 1>You and me, anyone who pays as they go income tax.

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<v Speaker 1>This federal government is getting more than any government has

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<v Speaker 1>in a generation. In fact, it is a nineteen year high.

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<v Speaker 1>Again the Financial Review of the ones banging out the

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<v Speaker 1>stories on this. So they're going to get a good

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<v Speaker 1>run with me because they are putting some numbers behind this.

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<v Speaker 1>A thing tank called the E sixty one Institute, a

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<v Speaker 1>former Productivity commissioner says, income tax is the workhourse of

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian revenue raising system. To give you an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>where does this mob of liars and fools get their

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<v Speaker 1>money from income tax? Two hundred and ninety three point

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<v Speaker 1>seven b four billion dollars, more than double the amount

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<v Speaker 1>that they get out of company tax and multiples of

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<v Speaker 1>the GST. Chris Richardson, who is with Access Economics or

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<v Speaker 1>Deloitte Access Economics, often a man you'll see in and

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<v Speaker 1>around budget time trying to push through the bs and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what the real numbers are. He says, the

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<v Speaker 1>tax receipts will hit twenty three point eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>GDP this financial year on a cash accounting basis, the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome would represent the highest level of taxation revenue since

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<v Speaker 1>the Howard government was in office in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six. Here he was when speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>my colleague and friend Ross a little earlier today on

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<v Speaker 1>business Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia, its standards of living is going backwards at such

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<v Speaker 4>a rapid rate compared with other countries because in inflation

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<v Speaker 4>bracket creep, the amount of money that government has taken

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<v Speaker 4>from payg taxpayers is increased incrementally.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, people's cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>Largely is as a result of the government taking more

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<v Speaker 4>money out of their pockets, and.

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<v Speaker 5>That increase in the tax take has been part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross Greenwood, the question based off the stats again, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>show you the straining Financial Review and their headline done off. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition's numbers, but nineteen thousand dollars poorer, nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars poorer when it comes to households because paying off

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<v Speaker 1>a house is more expensive, because buying any of the

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<v Speaker 1>supermarkets more expensive, Because the government takes more than it

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<v Speaker 1>has taken in a generation. And then it's what they

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<v Speaker 1>decide to spend the money on and we've got plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to say about that tonight, because aren't they trying to

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<v Speaker 1>change the subject on that one. There is no Jedi

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<v Speaker 1>mind trick that will work here, No weak minds watching

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<v Speaker 1>this program. Under this government, a football stadium of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been hired by the public service. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>size of government is worth mentioning again, Chris Richardson talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Ross.

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<v Speaker 5>The size of government has risen in recent years. In

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty two to twenty three, the size of government

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<v Speaker 5>spending was somewhere around twenty four percent of national income.

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<v Speaker 5>In the coming year it will be somewhere around twenty

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<v Speaker 5>seven percent of national income.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty substantial shift in a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're following their income coming in more than

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<v Speaker 1>that going out to pay for the public service wide

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<v Speaker 1>because the modern Labor Party has one view and one

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<v Speaker 1>view only. They view electoral strength through a triangle of

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<v Speaker 1>dependence that you either have your handout wanting welfare, or

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<v Speaker 1>you work for the government, or if you're in private

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<v Speaker 1>business and the biggest client is the government, that triangle

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<v Speaker 1>would be more than sixty percent of the Australian population

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<v Speaker 1>if they can get it to that nice sweet spot

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<v Speaker 1>like they have in Victoria. They did for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time in Queensland. Then it does not matter what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in Victoria, their triple O system resulted in the

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<v Speaker 1>death of thirty three people. Yet we keep being told

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<v Speaker 1>health is such a high priority that government got re elected.

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<v Speaker 1>The government that has bankrupted the state so much so

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<v Speaker 1>that now it is getting a greater percentage of the

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<v Speaker 1>gst PIE than the population it has is because, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's a labor state, and it's a place where

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<v Speaker 1>Albo needs to hold onto seats in order to hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto power. What these people are doing to our country

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<v Speaker 1>is a disgrace with your vote, with your preference, with

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<v Speaker 1>your commitment to watching programs like this and spreading the facts,

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<v Speaker 1>the information that I'm handing to you from multiple sources,

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<v Speaker 1>and I show you the sources, and I pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>I found all of this in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>I show you where it comes from. Well, this brings

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<v Speaker 1>us to old Grimjim Charmers. Now Hey, of course has

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<v Speaker 1>told us that he is the greatest economy managers in

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<v Speaker 1>sliced bread. Because for the plast couple of years they've

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<v Speaker 1>been running a budget surplus guess what's coming a budget

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<v Speaker 1>deficit exactly. This was announced today by the Treasurer, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get out in front of the budget that will

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<v Speaker 1>be formally announced on the twenty fifth, So that's not

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<v Speaker 1>this week, but next week. And by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the first of what is going to be forty

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<v Speaker 1>and I repeat forty budget deficits in a row. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I know it's forty years because Jim Chalmers also

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<v Speaker 1>released a document called the Intergenerational Report, how Australia stacks

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<v Speaker 1>up financially and socially for the next few decades. And

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that we will have the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of forty million people living here over the next little while,

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<v Speaker 1>the government will still keep spending like drunken salors because

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<v Speaker 1>what is baked into the budget only gets more rotten

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<v Speaker 1>as the year's roll on. In fact, have a look,

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<v Speaker 1>I circle it for you in the red every budget

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<v Speaker 1>year between now and twenty sixty three. Anything below the

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<v Speaker 1>line deficit this year, next year, year after year after

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<v Speaker 1>year after year after year after year after year after

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<v Speaker 1>year after, and they want you to vote for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They have more money than ever before, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>spending more than ever before. They have designed a budget

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<v Speaker 1>to spend even more when you and I may be

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<v Speaker 1>long gone, or it'll be our kids and grandkids that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be paying for it. Unbelievable, right, and they have the

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<v Speaker 1>stones to say they are the great economic managers. They

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<v Speaker 1>took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million workers as an

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<v Speaker 1>automatic tax return. One of the first things they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They turned around and used every opportunity to put up

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<v Speaker 1>every price they possibly could when it came to the

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<v Speaker 1>little taxes fuel and smokes and booze along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the people who say cost of living is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely front and center, and everything we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>reality is too little, too late. Tax cuts were fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a week, and I'll get the interest rates in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Let's just keep talking here about this budget

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to puncture some budget bs before it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to take hold. Now, yes, you know, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a dog in this fight, and it is for not

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<v Speaker 1>for these people to remain the governor of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think after three years of running it, they've

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<v Speaker 1>run it into the dirt and it is time to

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<v Speaker 1>save our country. Today. Jim charmers well, he softly announces

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<v Speaker 1>what he will not have to announce with any great fanfare,

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<v Speaker 1>because it will be by then old news that the

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<v Speaker 1>great economic management of two budget surpluses has now become

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster. Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Defining feature of our first three budgets was responsible economic management.

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<v Speaker 6>That will be a defining feature of the fourth as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Even this year, where we will be printing a deficit

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<v Speaker 6>for this year, it will be much much smaller than

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<v Speaker 6>what we inherited from our political opponents, and that shows

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<v Speaker 6>the progress that we've been able to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's all do this again. Remember the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Fridenberg and Morrison said back in black was because before

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, the joint had balanced its books. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction of a safety their job keeper as well as

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<v Speaker 1>higher one off welfare payments meant that that only came

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<v Speaker 1>from one place, and it wasn't from revenue. Because well,

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<v Speaker 1>the country shut down, the state premiers decided to lock

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<v Speaker 1>it down harder and for longer, and that meant that

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<v Speaker 1>those payments had to go further. Meaning yes, the budget

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<v Speaker 1>went into deficit, but if they want to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>it was because the Liberal Party was going crazy with

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<v Speaker 1>a credit card, that's not the case. You know, anner,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I remember budget night before the pandemic struck,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was that things had leveled out and things

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<v Speaker 1>were only going to get better. But under this bloke,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had a couple of years where mining has boomed,

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<v Speaker 1>where population has boomed, where company tax has gone okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but income tax has gone through the roof, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>about to produce a budget deficit, one that'll be not

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. But I repeat one more time, for the

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<v Speaker 1>next forty years. And remember, every one of those budget

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<v Speaker 1>deficits is added to the previous, to the previous, to

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<v Speaker 1>the previous, of the previous. So if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars in debt in the handover, guess what ten

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty forty years of spending more than you bring in,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll become two trillion within a couple of blinks of

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<v Speaker 1>the eye, and that will be a disgrace. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget. One of the reasons why they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be spending more money than money's coming in is

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<v Speaker 1>because they are trying to buy and slide their way

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<v Speaker 1>through an election. They lied in the last campaign. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they just want to bribe you, thinking that you can

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<v Speaker 1>forget about your own circumstances that I repeat for the

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<v Speaker 1>third time are almost twenty thousand dollars worse than when

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<v Speaker 1>this mob took over. How's the promises going?

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<v Speaker 2>Albo a seven point two billion dollar announcement today? Five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, three hundred and fifty million dollar, two billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,

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<v Speaker 2>two point four billion dollars eight point five billion dollar,

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<v Speaker 2>four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wis is economically responsible? Feding? Yeah, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking about it. Why because he just is insulting.

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<v Speaker 1>But they believe that triangle of dependency. Once you're throw

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit of a goodble good music under black

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<v Speaker 1>and white images of Peter Dutton cuts cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>all they will do is strengthen that triangle and it

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<v Speaker 1>will be almost impossible to move. And the only time

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<v Speaker 1>people do wake up is after you get to an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute point of no return with disaster like Queensland. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're facing right now. This is why your

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<v Speaker 1>vote matters, your preference matters. Bugging them all is not

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<v Speaker 1>an option. Doing any and everything you can to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you spread the news is far and wide

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<v Speaker 1>about the failure of this government matters. And what about

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<v Speaker 1>the hoodspurt today from the Treasurer who now has got

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new scapegoat as to why he is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the budget is going to be in deficit despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they knew there'd be one coming this year,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact they were planning and expecting them for

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<v Speaker 1>the next forty years. No, no, no. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>we're having this one this year X tropical cyclone Alfred. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the middle of it and it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a fizzer, but fed income. This is, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the ex tropical cyclone where Albow was definitely not campaigning.

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<v Speaker 1>Charmers was definitely not hoping that you would confuse his

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<v Speaker 1>orange jacket with the orange jacket of the sees because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just here to help and he's out

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<v Speaker 1>there briefing today that the cost of the federal budget,

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<v Speaker 1>now this is really important, not the cost of the

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland or New Soubal's budget. Who actually pays for the

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<v Speaker 1>fire services pays for In the Queensland's case, the electricity

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<v Speaker 1>workers to go around. I know this is the federal

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<v Speaker 1>budget that in taxes they're going to lose one point

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<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars because of essentially what two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half days shutdown in a very specific part of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the media, well they were cynical, weren't they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they willing to call bs on this? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>not to how just a new scapegoat when these people

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<v Speaker 1>have promised and planned deficits for the next forty years,

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<v Speaker 1>have baked in tens of billions of dollars that they

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<v Speaker 1>are not currently spending and that produces a deficit. Did

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<v Speaker 1>the media point any of that out? Let's roll the

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<v Speaker 1>tape and learn together. But I think we know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Millions of people are going into lockdown, told to stay

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<v Speaker 1>indoors as the impact of Cyclone Alfred intensifies.

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<v Speaker 7>You new details on Cyclone Alfred forecast to make landfall

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<v Speaker 7>in the next seventy two.

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<v Speaker 8>Hours and in northern New South Wales it's a race

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<v Speaker 8>against time.

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<v Speaker 6>The first time in more than three decades a tropical

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<v Speaker 6>cyclone is bearing down on our state.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the actual reason? Again, the treasure I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke today to my mate and friend Tom Connell here

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<v Speaker 1>on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, our focus, as you'd expect, is on

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<v Speaker 6>the human cost of X tropical cyclone Alfred and all

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<v Speaker 6>of the other natural disasters we've seen in recent years.

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<v Speaker 6>But there will be a substantial economic cost and also

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<v Speaker 6>a cost.

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<v Speaker 1>To the budget.

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<v Speaker 6>So the one point two billion dollars you refer to

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<v Speaker 6>will be provisioned four in the budget. It will be

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<v Speaker 6>one of the key influences on the budget we hand

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<v Speaker 6>down in eight days.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a very very clever almost said, a

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<v Speaker 1>clever trick. Okay. Now, I don't know what the budget

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<v Speaker 1>deficit it's going to be. If it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred million dollars, five hundred million dollars, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be two point four billion, six, I don't know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But this number of trying to say that the loss

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<v Speaker 1>to the federal government is one point two billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the excuse making about whatever the size

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<v Speaker 1>of that deficit is going to be. Now, the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of that deficit is that by their own projections over

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<v Speaker 1>the next forty years, we are going to spend more

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<v Speaker 1>than we earn. Because the Prime Minister is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>slide his way and lie his way and buy his

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<v Speaker 1>way back into the Prime ministership. Forty forty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>worth of promises that have been made since January. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why we're going to going to deficit. Okay, Now, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a financial and economic impact of shutting down Southeast

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland and find northern New South Welsh for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days? Yeah? Absolutely, But I've got a workout from

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<v Speaker 1>where Obviously airports were shut down for a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, what taxation was involved in that? Nobody lost

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<v Speaker 1>their job. Instead, people were being asked to work from home,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant they didn't really shut down either. Yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days willworts and coals you weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>go into them. But the idea that that means there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be lower company tax, No, does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be lower income tax? Well, again,

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<v Speaker 1>as best as I can work hard, unless you are

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<v Speaker 1>a casual worker, your wage was guaranteed, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that major companies like Colson wooll Is honored what

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be paid in those shifts. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing but an excuse. This is nothing but hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that you are not paying attention. Now, it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>claim what I am making right now, But do you

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<v Speaker 1>honestly believe that the actual cost to the bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal government, who's already employing everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>bro meteorology, who's already paying everyone in the defense force,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one point two billion dollars. And just to underline

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<v Speaker 1>my point, maybe you're thinking, well, hang on, put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rain primary producers in northern New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>and now there was a major hit to the budget

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<v Speaker 1>when the floods were there in twenty twenty from memory,

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<v Speaker 1>if not to twenty twenty two. Apologies, Well, someone might

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<v Speaker 1>want to actually alert the farmers because according to the ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that far right wing think tank, ex tropical

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<v Speaker 1>cyclone Alfred costs Newsobels farmers millions, not billions in stock

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<v Speaker 1>losses and damage. Farmers across northern New South Wales have

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<v Speaker 1>reported damages of seventeen million seventeen million. Now, does anyone

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the seventeen minion worth of crops or animals

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<v Speaker 1>would have produced something that would resulted in one point

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<v Speaker 1>two million billion dollars in revenue for the government. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy it either. You've got to pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the detail. I'm glad that you're hear. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's relentless, but this is the only way. The

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<v Speaker 1>only way we push back is to know the information,

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<v Speaker 1>share the videos, Tell your mates be here in the

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<v Speaker 1>front row when we go live. Go to skynews dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au and make sure that you share our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast as well. Now, while much of the media is

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to focus on the up and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of the campaign and how wonderful his new glasses are

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever he's got to say in his personal life,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that plenty of the establishment media are

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<v Speaker 1>literally so far on his side that even in so

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<v Speaker 1>called efforts of journalism, they're offering mates rates to host

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<v Speaker 1>their wedding. And even though the turnbul Times is going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around and tell you the worst is behind us,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that a bloke who was both on

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A and Paul Murray Live in the same

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<v Speaker 1>week calls BS on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm working the two jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>He's only fifteen months old, so it's a real you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>A house to live in.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If all the long facts and figures become a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit tiresome, if all of the charts become a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much, may I speak to you in the language

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<v Speaker 1>of the internet. There is a meme that often goes around,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's many versions of this which puts up an

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<v Speaker 1>example of the way things used to be and the

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<v Speaker 1>way things that are turning out. As always, we turned

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<v Speaker 1>to holy texts such as Star Wars, Luke Skywalker, how

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<v Speaker 1>it started fresh and young? How's it going? Remember he's

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<v Speaker 1>drinking that weird milk, not looking his best? The years

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>were not there, So let's do a few of these

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<v Speaker 1>about the Abenezy government, how it started living? Their promise

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<v Speaker 1>was to make everything cheaper. However, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>Forty seven percent of households are struggling to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 9>Pain being faced by families at the supermarket checkout with

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<v Speaker 9>prices rising and eyewatering thirty percent in three years.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have noticed fuel prices are again skyrocketing. Petral

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<v Speaker 1>prices are disgusting.

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<v Speaker 6>To fill my tank costs over seventy dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, new's done different anyway. When it comes to housing,

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<v Speaker 1>how did it start? Versus how's it going well. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>when interest rates went up in the election campaign last

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<v Speaker 1>time and the Labor Party was not in charge, this

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<v Speaker 1>was what they said about interest rate rises.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a full blown cost of living crisis on

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<v Speaker 6>Scott Morrison's watch, and now interest rate rises are about

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<v Speaker 6>to be part of the pain. Now this Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 6>has an excuse for everything and for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one interest rate rise. Well, how's it going well?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course for Australians under this watch, not one, not two,

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<v Speaker 1>not three, not five, not six, not ten, twelve interest

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<v Speaker 1>rate rises. Oh but it ever came down ever so

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<v Speaker 1>slowly and you might be able to save one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a month. Really. Also, when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>number of homes in mortgage stress right now, have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at this number and these graphics too, another example

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<v Speaker 1>not just how it started, but how it's going. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also three million people at risk of homelessness, not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention the difficulties at the moment about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find a rental property. This is how it's going.

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<v Speaker 8>So many people they just want to stop and lay roots.

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<v Speaker 8>And we're tired, Sarah, We're tired of moving constantly and

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<v Speaker 8>we want our children to build a foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>How it started versus how it's going power builds? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think this is a fairly easy layer for

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<v Speaker 1>the government. After all, didn't they promise something by two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five dollars in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred and seventy five dollars a year hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five dollars for households, reducing power prices by two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>How it started? How's it going well? Electricity bills up

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven percent? That was last year. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>was the news from last week. Our prices are set

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<v Speaker 1>to rise by up to nine percent in another blow

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<v Speaker 1>to struggling households. Prices are going up by nearly nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent for some households despite all the promises. The price

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<v Speaker 1>of electricity is about to go up again. And one

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<v Speaker 1>last one about how it started versus how it's going petrol.

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<v Speaker 1>When Anthony Abnezy was the opposition leader, he was saying

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<v Speaker 1>the fuel prices are at record high as major squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>Morrison government doing nothing. He said at a dollar seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>The things were so outrageous because the then Prime Minister clearly

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been to a petrol station recently. Well, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it started. How's it going? These are the photos I

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<v Speaker 1>took my phone at the petrol stations in and around

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<v Speaker 1>this office tonight. Prices not a dollar seventy nine, not

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<v Speaker 1>even a dollar ninety six, two dollars twelve. This is

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<v Speaker 1>on top of, by the way, a government that has

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<v Speaker 1>increased multiple times, the fuel excise multiple times, the beer

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<v Speaker 1>excise multiple times, the tobacco axis. And to make my

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<v Speaker 1>final point the camera four sixty three percent of this

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of booze is tax. How it started? You'd save

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<v Speaker 1>this for a rainy day. How's it going? Hand me

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<v Speaker 1>a glass or maybe not even a glass, or finish

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<v Speaker 1>the bottle myself. Quick breakback. We're bre here on Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Murray Live. I remember you're going to send me an

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<v Speaker 1>email pull Let's go news dot com dot au, No sooks,

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<v Speaker 1>no lefties. We're often running and some big news after

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<v Speaker 1>the break about how you can be part of the

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<v Speaker 1>case for change when it comes to a government. More

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. You know how I love a pub test.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a very big one coming up in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. It's going to be with the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>leader Peter Dutton. If you would like to join us

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<v Speaker 1>in his electorate of Dixon, you can send me an

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<v Speaker 1>email right now. It is pubtest at skynews dot com

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<v Speaker 1>dot Au Monday, the thirty first of March. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them away, but it's going to be the first

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<v Speaker 1>one after the budget, after the budget and reply and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe maybe the first day of an election campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. If you would like to be there, pub

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<v Speaker 1>test at sky news dot com dot you, please include

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<v Speaker 1>your question. Okay, not because I want to vet, but

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to make sure that one person is

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<v Speaker 1>not asking the same as the other, as the other

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<v Speaker 1>as the other. Don't try and book ten tickets at once.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work that way, and you know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>freshly registered it. I love the Greens at gmail dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot you. I don't know, but we'll all find now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>pub jested sky news dot com dot Au. James Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see him a million places here at skye News,

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<v Speaker 1>read him in the Telegraph as well. Love to see

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<v Speaker 1>a great man and man it is equally as visible

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<v Speaker 1>on sky News, but doing his bit for the good

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<v Speaker 1>people of Queensland. Senator from Queensland now Nationals buddy none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Senator Matt Canevan so lots to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>about this, how it started, how it's going. You sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a good one, Matt. We'll get it up on

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<v Speaker 1>screen in a moment or two's time. But if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, and everything is as clear as it is

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<v Speaker 1>having you guys, not up by ten points, not as

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<v Speaker 1>the Morgan Pole would suggest, down by nine, well it's

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be close.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the tightening of the polls here is a

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<v Speaker 10>silver lining for There is a silver lining from it

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<v Speaker 10>for the coalition, for Liberal National Parties. It should knock

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<v Speaker 10>out any humorous So I've been thinking all year that

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<v Speaker 10>perhaps our biggest hurdle would be the fact that many

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<v Speaker 10>of our supporters are lovely people, great people. Seem to

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<v Speaker 10>think that this is in the bag. Certainly not. It

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<v Speaker 10>is very close, th very tough to win government. It's

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<v Speaker 10>even tougher to win government of a first term government. Now.

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<v Speaker 10>Peter Dutton's done a remarkable job to put the coalition

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<v Speaker 10>in a position where it is this close. But now

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<v Speaker 10>we've got to push through to the end. I've always

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<v Speaker 10>been an advocate too that we shouldn't die wandering on

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<v Speaker 10>the field. That we should get out there and throw

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<v Speaker 10>the cut out passes and do our best to score.

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<v Speaker 10>So I would also hope that this tightening of the

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<v Speaker 10>polls gives a bit of steal in the spine of

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<v Speaker 10>my colleagues and we get out there and put a

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<v Speaker 10>really strong alternative to this round people, because this cover

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<v Speaker 10>is terrible, it is waeful. It's been a very hard

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<v Speaker 10>time for so many extrains, and I think we owe

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<v Speaker 10>it to those people doing it tough to go hard

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<v Speaker 10>here and put out a clear alternative about how we're

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<v Speaker 10>going to get rid of the terrible policies that has

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<v Speaker 10>put this country in the shocking position where the stand

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<v Speaker 10>of living has dropped by eight percent, more than double

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<v Speaker 10>any country in the developed world. We should not be

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<v Speaker 10>this way with the country this much resources, this much potential,

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<v Speaker 10>this much greatness in its own people. We need to

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<v Speaker 10>find a way of unleashing that potential, that latent potentially

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<v Speaker 10>Australian people by being a much better government than this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the reference to rugby league. You're representing Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>better than the local teams did this weekend. All three

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<v Speaker 1>of them didn't get up. But Matt's out there fighting

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to Rugby League James again the stark reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the promise being failed. I talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>great detail last week. Tony Habbaits says, I'll stop the boats.

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<v Speaker 1>If three years later more boats have arrived, what would

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction be They say we're going to bring everything down.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's more expensive has later removed with a shot.

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<v Speaker 7>Well that's the real thing here. And you know there's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot to say about this here, but let's start

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<v Speaker 7>with the big point of where we are in this campaign.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, the Libs have done a very good job

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<v Speaker 7>getting to within striking distance of this thing. Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 7>has done an absolutely remarkable job as our position leader.

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<v Speaker 7>He has made the right calls on big issues, one

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<v Speaker 7>of them being nuclear, another one being the voice that

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<v Speaker 7>said here we are, and we're in a position now

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<v Speaker 7>where everybody says, I think, yeah, you know, the policies

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<v Speaker 7>of this government are woeful. We know that our living

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<v Speaker 7>standards have gone backwards by something like.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight or ten percent.

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<v Speaker 7>But if Matt, if you're gonna give us a bit

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<v Speaker 7>of rugby league, permit me the American to give a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of baseball here Okay, it's like basically there is

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<v Speaker 7>and there is no shame I think for Peter, Doctor

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<v Speaker 7>Peter doesn't need to there's no shame at all in

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<v Speaker 7>losing to a first term incumbent government. But you're never

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<v Speaker 7>gonna win if you don't have a big hard swing

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<v Speaker 7>for the fences.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's where that's where Peter Dotton is right now.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think you know, they got spooked when that

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<v Speaker 7>fringe benefit tax launch policy got absolutely monstered. Unfairly by

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<v Speaker 7>the way, but it did get monstered. And we need

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<v Speaker 7>to see, you know, some real policies around cutting taxes.

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<v Speaker 7>We've got to in the daily telegraphed bar suggesting maybe,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, increase of the tax rege threshold for every child.

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<v Speaker 7>You have things that are easy to understand. They'll put

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<v Speaker 7>more money in families pockets. That's where we need to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I so bring back the local middle income tax officet

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<v Speaker 1>that was fifteen hundred dollars ten million.

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<v Speaker 7>Pace and cut and and the bracket creed index the rates.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, all right. So I was talking before

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<v Speaker 1>about that how it started, how it ended thing. While

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I was in the middle of my carrying on there.

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Matt Canavan sent me this one, which I thought also

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<v Speaker 1>was very clever. With the top people their parents in

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>their thirties, a thinking Jesus is a good investment property

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>be in my thirties. I'm kind of screwed after just

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<v Speaker 1>buying these two things. I like it. I like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you got into the spirit of things.

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<v Speaker 10>All right, let's talk about I don't have the second

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 10>the second ski village, the second house in the s

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 10>My kids probably think I do, secretly away that it

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't quite hold.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's just talk about some of the

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff and get ahead of the garbage that we're going

0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>to have to be sort of, you know, whack them

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>playing whack them with when it comes to the budget.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys want to get involved

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that personally. I think the one point two billion thing

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and the price tag on the cyclone when use of

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Wels Farmers is seventeen million, seems to me that it's

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>about trying to set narratives. But the second part of

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>all of this is that this government has made forty

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars worth of promises since the start of the year.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>They're going to, of course spend hundreds of billions more

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>on an energy system that of course is the three

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>world car three wheelcar going around Bathurst when we know

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it ain't going to set a lap record. This doesn't

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>surprise anyone. We know there are some gas companies saying

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to bring some supply on in

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the Bass straight, but good luck if that becomes anything

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that the Greens or Teals could be involved with the

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>minority government.

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<v Speaker 10>Matt, Well, yeah, on the budget, it'll all be revealed

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 10>next week. Everything that's said beforehand you can totally discount.

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 10>Obviously the treasure is trying to set the table in

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 10>a way that benefits him and his team. But just

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<v Speaker 10>go to the table and the budget. I think in

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 10>the last budget was page ninety, but it's about page ninety.

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<v Speaker 10>Always go to the table that shows you how much

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 10>the budget has changed because of the policy decisions of

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 10>this government.

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<v Speaker 1>That will not include that.

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<v Speaker 10>That line will not include anything that came from cyclone, Alfred,

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<v Speaker 10>but it will include the decisions as you've said that

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<v Speaker 10>this part the Labor Party has taken since its start

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 10>of the year to check money into medicare, to put

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 10>money into roads that if it's unfunded.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be revealed there.

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<v Speaker 10>And in that table it shows in the government's first

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 10>two full budgets they increased spending through because of their

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 10>own decisions, at a rate that hadn't been seen that

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<v Speaker 10>side of COVID since Kevin Rudd's response to the global

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 10>financial crisis. It was totally inappropriate. At least Kevin had

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 10>the excuse of responding to a massive economic global recession.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 10>This government came to power with what was clearly a

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 10>global global inflation problem and they added a huge amounts

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 10>of fuel. The only gas that's been produced by this

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.240
<v Speaker 10>government is the gasoline.

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That they caught on.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 10>The inflation fire was raising this country and made it

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<v Speaker 10>a lot lot worse for strained families.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, So James, are you ready to get in for

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the Greens in a four day work week?

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<v Speaker 7>I love this idea, but I have a proposal, Paul,

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 7>because here's the thing, Like, you know, you know, you

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 7>know that I'm a busy man, both you gentlemen and

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 7>jobs Jobs got all this sort of stuff here, and

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 7>you know we've got the paper, I've got skins that

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 7>were kind of an eighty week. So I reckon my

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 7>vote should count for twice as much as a Greens vote.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>How about that?

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, no, I like it something Paul can I How

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<v Speaker 10>about how about that poor Morgan Coxpike you had on before? Yes, yes,

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.760
<v Speaker 10>you know it's you know he's having to work two jobs,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 10>right man? Ye, because partly because of these stupid Green

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 10>policies that have made things so expensive in this country

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 10>when the Houston should be cheap. Why don't we just

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 10>let Morgan work one job. Let's focus on that. Let's

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 10>focus on making a country where someone who works full

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 10>time can afford to provide for their family and have

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 10>a house. Great, and I'm poor Morgan'll be happy if

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.439
<v Speaker 10>you have to work thirty seven forty hours a week.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 10>That's better than what he's having to go through right now.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Look, look, plenty of people have been in touch again.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember Morgan's got a high fi business about cinema, putting

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>home cinemas in all the rest of it. Right, If

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll get the number again, lots of people reached out

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and ordered some work from him. You know, if you're

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking about these sorts of things starting up in the

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>household or any sort of av stuff around the house. Police,

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll keep the number coming for me. In a moment

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>or two time. Let's get to American politics quickly, James,

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>where lots of polls showing right track, wrong track much

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>better at the moment, that's one thing. But the Democrats

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 1>way down. This is despite the fact that Elon Musk

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>is destroying the world, Donald Trump tariffs everywhere, the actual

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>poll numbers for the Dems rules.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the Democrats don't know what they're doing. They don't

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 7>know who their leaders, they don't know if their job

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 7>is to oppose everything Trump does or try and work

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 7>on a bipartisan basis. And they keep choosing Paul these issues,

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 7>these kind of eighty twenty issues, and they wind up

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 7>on the wrong side. Before the election, it was hey,

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 7>we think, you know, guys should be in your daughter's

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 7>locker room. Now it's like, hey, we don't think Donald

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:13.919
<v Speaker 7>Trump should deport Venezuelan trenda Arnwega narco criminals and send

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 7>them off to some president al salvagor, because that's that's

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 7>not on. I mean, it's like they just managed to

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 7>pick the nonsensical issue. And this is before we get

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 7>to Columbia University and deporting you know, this Palestinian activist

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 7>who is all calling for Intifada, and you know, like seriously,

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 7>normal Americans just say yes, good, more of this please,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 7>and Democrats are going out and burning down Tesla dealerships.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Make it make sense, Paul well, but also Matt, Matt

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and James. What's really obvious too is that you know

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>how many times does the establishment media and Eddie kick

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>in the backside that they're in the wrong place. They've

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gone straight to everything is chaos, no benefit of the doubt,

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>no sense of understanding. I said it before the election day.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I repeat it even more now. They are so irrelevant

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't even double check to see what their leads

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>story to me because it's so far away from reality.

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 10>The amazing thing the mainstream media keep falling for the

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 10>bait that Donald Trump throws out there, right and they're

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 10>all talking about this issue of the deportation of the

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 10>Venezuelan gangs, and everybody supports Trump, or or maybe percent,

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 10>as James said, supports him. And I think the problem

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 10>for the Democrats right now is that they seem to

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 10>be focusing on form over substance. But there's a massive

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 10>outrage about I mean, how Trump spoke to Zelenski in

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 10>the Oval office or how this is the deportations are

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 10>happening when ultimately people are going to judge a fruit

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 10>a tree so and the fruit it delivers, that's how

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 10>it should happen. And on the substance of what's happened

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 10>so far, Trump has basically ended illegal arrivals over the

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 10>Mexican border. He has ended the fighting in Gaza, an

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 10>amazing result so early in the term. And they're about

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 10>to save these astronauts by the look of it, and

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 10>God God willing, they'll do that in the next few days.

0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 10>That's what people care about ultimately, and it's a good

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 10>lesson for all. I think political leaders around the world

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 10>focus less on the communication and all this rubbish. We

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 10>go on with the strategies and the tactics and deliver

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 10>good results. That's what will ultimately put you in good stead.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>With the electric absolutely, and I always think either whether

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.959
<v Speaker 1>if you're overly excited or overly annoyed, wait a week,

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>wait a week, because it always ends up ending up

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. Thank you very much. You can find out

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>more with the US Report, Campaign Confidential and the Outsiders,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>or of course on the front lines of the fight

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>each and every day. Thank your lads to appreciate it

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>now again, Morgan Cox, he's the bloke who was on

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Q and A on this program talking about how he

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>needs to work two jobs and how tough it is.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And he's in a scenario where because he's rent went

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>up by one hundred and eighty dollars, he could end

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>up being homeless. Okay. He runs a company called Smart

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>High Fi. Any sort of audio visual stuff around the house.

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>He'll go as far up as well. Any job. Basically

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>you'll go to the Hunter Valley all the way down

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to Wollongong one three hundred three two nine one oh four.

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to plug his business because the best way

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>for him to be able to save his family is

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>for you to hire him to do the work. One

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 1>three hundred three to nine one four more in a second,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>well under sixty minutes. And I gave it to them

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago for their coverage when it

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>came to Prime Minister versus Alternity Prime Minister. But well

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>done to them. Nick McKenzie and everyone involved in following

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>up on the story in and around biking gangs and

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>construction in and around the state of Victoria. Why I

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like the follow up is because the politicians kind of

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>thought this was a couple of days story starting inquiry.

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>But guess what the inquiry wasn't into anyone making decisions.

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>The follow up is for, among other things, just sinder

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Allen today to turn around and say, well, we'll get

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the police to investigate this. Make it sound like it

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>was new. But according to the age tonight, the very

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>thing she was saying with you today have already been

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>existing since July. Now, the Building and Construction Commission was

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>an important thing to hold the CFMU to account. John

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Lloyd was one of its former commissioners and he joins

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>us now. John, thank you very much for the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It is plain as the nose on our faces about

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the problems that exist on the construction big projects and

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the ones in our major cities. We've had now now

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to sixty minutes investigations. Yet the response of the Victorian

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>government is virtually nothing. What do you think about just

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>how plain the problem is?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, look at Victorian government has obviously been asleep at

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 9>the wheel. In essence, the Union controls the big bill projects,

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 9>It controls the supply of labor to those projects. It

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 9>seems to control the selection of contractors and that's I

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 9>think the basic agenda of the unions, and from that

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 9>has flown all this problems which the sixty minutes has uncovered.

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<v Speaker 9>And then I said, there's a flurry of actor.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, sorry, sir said, I see tonight that the

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Industrial Relations Minister, the workplace Relations Minister is out referring

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to the coalition planning to crack down, changing laws and

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>bringing back the organization used to work for as quote

0:45:58.440 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>unquote reckless.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's an astounding sort of observation. It's clearly that

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 9>a regular, a tough cop on the beat like the

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 9>ABCC is needed. The unions don't respond, the officials don't

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 9>respond to reason or rational discussion. They need to have

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 9>a tough response. Know that there's consequences, serious consequences of

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 9>actions they take. And the ABCC, with increased penalties above

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 9>what's there now, stronger powers to investigate unlawful conduct, criminal conduct.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 9>Those things are quite clearly needed and needed as soon

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 9>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep hearing about what is unacceptable in the workplace,

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what we know in corporate environments that would result in

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you sort of getting the never to be rehired attached

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to your permanent record. But What is it about this sector?

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Is it? The nature of work? Is that the totality

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of control of the unions. That means even when you

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>get a dirty, big spotlight and point out what the

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>problem is and find them and all the rest of it,

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 1>all it does is just maybe sideline one person, one organization,

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't change the overall issue.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's a very very good observation. The nature of

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 9>work on the major construction sites is such that it

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 9>tends to be the clients in this case of Victorian

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 9>government pushes the risk, if you like, onto the head

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<v Speaker 9>contractor and subcontractors and the two don't seem to Victorian

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<v Speaker 9>government obviously as a client hasn't been keeping informed about

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<v Speaker 9>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 9>To me, it only get lasting change if you have

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<v Speaker 9>the key players coming together, that is the client, the government.

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<v Speaker 9>That means ministers and senior officials involve, Victoria Police, involve

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<v Speaker 9>the head contrac tractors and the major subcontractors to say

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<v Speaker 9>the old ways are over lawful conduct will be applied.

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<v Speaker 9>The union won't dictate who's engaged. The union won't dictate

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<v Speaker 9>who we select as contractors. If you do that, and

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<v Speaker 9>if the head contractors are required to if you like,

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<v Speaker 9>report any unlawful or illegal conduct to the client and

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<v Speaker 9>the police. Then you'll get change. But without those people

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<v Speaker 9>coming together and being resilient and tough, unfortunately, there's so

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<v Speaker 9>many things in the industry which allow these schemes to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on you, John, I really do appreciate it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, John Lloyd, former a Commissioner of the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Building and Construction Commission. I would also add to

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<v Speaker 1>this that we know that there is a mean social

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<v Speaker 1>precedy that can be put onto the finance in and

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<v Speaker 1>around projects. Hence why fossil fullard projects don't get funded

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<v Speaker 1>by Australian banks. Where is the pressure on where the

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<v Speaker 1>money comes from for these jets that employ these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously when it comes to something like the CFM the year,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are when it comes to Victorian government and

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<v Speaker 1>the CFM the year. But what about all these other

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<v Speaker 1>plethora of projects. This is not the too hard basket.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a statement of what we will and won't

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<v Speaker 1>accept in our country. We'll see you again tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigel Faraji our special guest at a reminder pub test.

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<v Speaker 1>It's goynews dot com dot au for March the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>first with Peter Dunton