WEBVTT - Sharri | 10 June 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.479 Why On Sky News, Vinus. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:05.559 Is Sharry. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.280 Good Evening Tonight. Los Angeles is in the middle of 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.640 another night of chaos as riots engulf the city. We'll 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.759 have the latest details as the city's left wing leaders 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:22.320 spend more time fighting Trump than the rioters. Add It's 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.560 so long farewell to Gretathunberg as she's deported from Israel 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.880 this after she refused to watch the October seven footage 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.520 showing just how morally bankruptcy is well. Paul Kelly saw 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.960 that vision in Israel recently, and he'll join me on 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.720 the show tonight. Will the Coalition oppose net zero? Shadow 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.120 Energy Minister Dantean will be here shortly. The Albanezy government 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.879 bans an American Jewish tech entrepreneur from entering our country, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.720 yet turns a blind eye to hate preachers. Why has 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.800 it been left to Jewish groups to take court action 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.280 from Ambishop Calibond will be here to discuss. Plus controversy 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.880 over China's plans to build a super embassy, and the 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.200 breaking news tonight that the ABC is set to dump. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:11.400 Q and A. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:12.800 Will anyone miss it? 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.040 That's all coming up, but let's. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.199 Start with Marines, who are right now moving into guard 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.280 federal buildings in Los Angeles after four days of chaos 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.600 and violence. These scenes have been despicable and embarrassing for 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:33.679 this world famous city. American flag satellite cars torched and looting. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.360 Masked men were filmed throwing rocks and fireworks while activists 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:45.000 occupied a freeway, lit fires and cause total disarray. This 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.440 is the very picture of lawlessness and mass havoc. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:56.880 Cars on fire and tensions inflamed, emotions stoked by the 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:02.160 President's decision to deploy the military. Here the Mexican flag 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.440 is flying and anger directed at ICE, the Immigrations and 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.120 Customs Enforcement Agency after a series of raids. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.240 And the MAYHEMI wrapted on Friday in response, as you 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.359 just heard, to a small ICE operation to deport I 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.560 legal immigrants involved in money laundering and tax evasion along 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.280 with other criminals, and it escalated from there. First two 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.800 thousand National Guards took to the streets to help keep 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:34.360 the peace. That number was then doubled, and now Trump 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.760 has deployed seven hundred marines to help protect the city. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.280 But what's been so bizarre about this is the response 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.880 from Democrat politicians and much of the media. Instead of 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.839 shutting down the crime and telling the protesters to get 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:55.520 into line. The blame is squarely directed toward the president 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.040 of the United States. Yep, the Democrats and the media 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.880 are blaming the deployment of the National Guards for the 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.960 escalation in violence. Here's Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass saying 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.520 that the extra manpower isn't needed. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.040 I was trying to make the case that the National 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.440 Guard was not needed here. I was trying to make 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.000 the case that the National Guard came here, it would 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.800 be a provocative move and it would be like a 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:27.000 deliberate attempt to create disorder and kios in our city. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.440 So instead of shutting down the protests in her own city, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.880 the mayor is telling the LAPD and the National Guard that. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:36.960 They're not needed. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.560 It's a wild idea of restoring order by asking the 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.720 police the law enforcement to stand down. Kamala Harris has 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.960 also accused Trump of provoking chaos by deploying the National Guard. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.240 She said on social media, in addition to the recent 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.040 ice raids in southern California and across our nation, it 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.280 is part of the Trump administration's all calculated agenda to 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:08.440 spread panic and division and then completely absurdly. She even 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:13.960 claimed the protests have been peaceful. She said protest is 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.880 a powerful tool essential in the fight for justice, and 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.680 as the LAPD mayor and governor have noted, demonstrations in 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:27.600 defense of our immigrant neighbors have been overwhelmingly peaceful. I mean, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.599 just wow, that is a ludicrous claim that's easily fact 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.800 checked as being one hundred percent wrong. Kamala Harris only 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.279 needs to turn on the news to see just how 0:04:38.400 --> 0:05:05.480 peaceful the protests have been. Bort Us tom Homan said 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.200 it was wrong to suggest these protests were in any 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.919 way peaceful, and he called out the Californian leadership for 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.520 sitting on their hands. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.200 I was there first two nights. It was out of control, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.679 the city was burning. Governor Newsom did nothing. The mayor 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.640 did nothing. So President Trump, God bless him. He sent 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.560 in the National Garden to save property and saved lives, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.640 and I assume for doing it. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.920 But this is so highly political that California Governor Gavin 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:39.360 Newsom even claims that Trump wants a civil war on 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.760 the streets of America. And Trump then returned fire by 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.640 saying the governor is not only grossly incompetent, but he 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.200 even appeared to suggest that he could be arrested, and 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.919 that was in response to questions from journalists. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:54.920 That's not what. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:55.640 Trump is after. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.040 He's not for peacemaking. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.240 He's here for war. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.600 It's a civil war on the streets. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.120 So because Trump is refusing to back down on his 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.479 decision to deport illegal immigrants, and because he's standing firm 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.120 on sending in law enforcement, he's now being blamed for 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:19.760 inciting violence and abusing power. This is typical. It's not 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.000 the fault of the rabid mob, but it's Trump's fault 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:28.560 for calling in reinforcements to ensure security. Now, the President 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:33.760 pledged over and over again to crack down on illegal immigrants. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.520 It was a major policy he campaigned on during the 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:41.320 presidential election. He couldn't have been clearer about this. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.839 Now, I will stop the criminal invasion of our country, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.320 the biggest problem we have right now, and I will 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.440 bring back the American dream. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.160 So, whether you like his policy or not agree with 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.839 him or not, he does have a mandate to do this. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.799 Foreign editor in The Australian, Greg Sheridan pointed out today 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.880 that Barack Obama deported more people than Trump did in 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.560 his first term. He writes that Obama deported almost four 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.880 hundred thousand people in twenty ten. He says half had 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:22.480 no criminal convictions, and Sheridan writes the Obama administration also 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.520 took tough action against businesses that knowingly employed illegal aliens. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.760 So it's okay if Obama does it, but a crime 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.600 against humanity, crying to Heaven for vengeance if Trump does it. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.520 And Sheridan also says that illegal immigration has run beyond 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.360 the control of democratic politics in the West and it 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.800 is a deep crisis in many countries. He writes, the 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:54.280 conventional center left has essentially taken a lawless. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:58.000 Approach to the issue, and I think that's. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.520 The core of the problem. That's what's led. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.400 Us to where we are now. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.480 Not only is California a sanctuary state, but it's been 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.320 let down by its own left leaning, soft on crime 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.800 leadership over such a long period of time that the 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.800 entire cities in disarray, and it's become in some cases 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:21.960 in some areas, an unpalatable place to live. The wok 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.960 agenda has killed it. And it's these conditions that have 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.680 meant that criminals and protesters don't think they have to 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.720 obey the law, that it wouldn't be enforced anyway, and 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.400 that they're within their rights to run riot and loot stores. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.480 But of course, the other issue is that while Trump 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.720 does have a legitimate claim to deport to legal immigrants 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.000 as he said he was going to do, we're just 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:55.280 seeing constant chaos during his presidency. These riots, the trade 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.440 tariff uproar, the fight with Elon Musk, the oval office 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.200 spectacle with President Zelenski. It's an administration that seems to 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:09.520 thrive on drama. In a world teetering on uncertainty, more 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:14.200 stability and calm authority would not just be welcome, but 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:21.000 it'd be the smartest move from the president going forward. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.160 And it's so long, farewell, farewell, and goodbye to Gretathunberg 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.520 as she's shown the door by Israel and officially deported 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.360 out of the country. As you may have heard, Greta 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.959 Thunberg has refused to watch the forty five minutes of 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:43.160 footage of hermas massacring innocent Israeli families on October seven, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.240 And that tells you everything you need to know about 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:51.440 Greta and her group of self obsessed attention seekers, because 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:56.840 that footage shows children being murdered in their cots, women 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.120 being mutilated and parents being killed right in front of 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.800 their loved ones. It's too graphic to broadcast on NAN 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.120 and I do think that's a shame. But one of 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.360 my guests tonight, the Australians Editor at Large, Paul Kelly, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.520 watched it just over a week ago when he was 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.920 in Israel, and I'm going to speak to him about 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.720 his trip shortly. But watching that footage would mean that 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.840 Greta Thunberg would have to face the reality that Israel 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.920 is trying to defeat her muss a terror group that 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:33.040 committed an unfathomable genocide and barbaric atrocities on October seven, 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.480 and that ever since then, Israel has been desperately trying 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.439 to bring home the two hundred and fifty innocent people 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:47.080 taken hostage. Kidnapped, yes, actually kidnapped, not kidnapped like Greta 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.800 claims she was kidnapped when she was given a sandwich 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.760 and water and brought to safety, but kidnapped like Shiri 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.080 Bibas was as she was dragged away from her home 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:04.120 while desperately trying to keep her two beautiful babies, Kafir 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:09.360 and Ariel safe. As you know, they were then murdered 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:15.160 by her mus the children killed by bare hands. Palestinian 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.160 families had a fun day out, celebrating as the coffins 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.800 were paraded on a her Musk stage in a murderous, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:28.760 grotesque spectacle. We all cried when their bodies were brought 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.120 home to Israel. That is what it looks like to 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:38.640 be actually kidnapped. Mia Chem knows something about kidnapping two, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:44.800 as does Elie Sharabi and Rachel and John Goldberg Pollen. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.960 It's an insult that Greta claimed she'd been kidnapped, and 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.640 now today it's emerged that one of the figures behind 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:58.600 Greta's flotilla may have ties to her. Muss Zaharbarawi had 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.920 been accused in the UK and in Israel of being 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.560 a Hermas operative, and he's one of the organizers of 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:11.040 that freedom flotilla coalition. Now Birawi denies this, but British 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.280 Labor and p Christian Wakeford accused Burrawi in twenty twenty 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:19.880 three under parliamentary privilege of being a Hermas operative. He 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.239 also claimed he'd hosted an event in London called Understanding Hermas, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:29.160 and as you can see, he's been photographed with Ismael Honeyer. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.160 That's Hermas's former political leader who was killed in that 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:39.360 famous attack by Israel in Tehran last year. Now this 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.160 isn't surprising to learn of the likely or possible connections 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:48.440 to hamas anyone campaigning so strongly for Israel's destruction is 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.679 only doing so to the benefit of a terror group. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.439 And as for Greta and her crew, well, they've been 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:01.240 sent home from Israel having achieved absolutely nothing except for 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:07.319 humiliating themselves on the world stage. Their self indulgent virtue 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:14.160 signaling publicity trip is now over, and the tiny, inconsequential 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.160 amount of aid they brought in will make no difference 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.000 to the millions of meals Israel is handing out directly 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.720 to Palestinians, free from the problematic intervention of the United Nations, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.439 which only served to prop up her muss. But as 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.480 I said last night, hatred of Israel and by extension, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.960 Israeli's and Jews is becoming fashionable in left wing media 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:46.040 and political circles. The hatred driven by distorted narratives, propaganda 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.000 and false claims. It would have been wise for Greta 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:54.120 and her group to actually watch the footage of what 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:59.520 unfolded on October seven, But that would have been confronting reality, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.959 which she and others on the left are loath to do. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:08.719 Now. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.400 We spoke last night about how the alban Eezy government 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:16.040 has banned American tech entrepreneur Hillel Food from coming to Australia. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.120 They claim this is because of hate speech, despite the 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.160 fact he told me last night he planned to speak 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:24.160 about innovation. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:30.000 The topic of my talk wasn't even politics or anything 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.840 to do with gods or anything like that. I was 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.560 there to talk about how Israel and Israeli innovation is 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.160 changing the world and making the word a better place. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:37.680 What's inflammatory about that? 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.920 Exactly? So, Tony Burt cancels this highly respected businessman's visa, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.920 yet has not lifted a finger to deal with hate preachers, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.320 some of whom are in his own electorate. Instead, it's 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.000 been left to Jewish groups to take civil action in court. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.600 Australia's racial vilification speech laws will now be put to 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.640 the test. The Executive Council of Australian Jury's case against 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:08.840 hate preacher with some Haddad began in court today. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.000 The court heard the preacher delivered five speeches in November 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.640 twenty twenty three, in which he's accused of preaching section 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.320 eighteen c of the Racial Vilification Act because they were 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:25.720 reasonably likely to offend, insult, to humiliate or intimidate Australian Jews. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.760 In one speech played to the court, Jews are described 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.320 as mischievous, that they have their hands everywhere in business media, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.880 and he preached about Muslims killing Jews towards the. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.160 End the times, when the Muslims will be fighting the Jews, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.840 the trees will speak, the soul will speak, and they'll say, oh, Muslim, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.040 O believer, there is a Yahudi behind me, Come and 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:49.560 kill him. 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.080 I mean, surely it shouldn't be left to Jewish groups 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.720 to take and fund action here. Yet this is how 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.840 weak our leadership is in US Astralia. Now to further 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.080 discuss this, let's bring in now the former Speaker of 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.840 the House Brhman Bishop and Sky News host Caleb Bond. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.040 Welcome to you both, Bron. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.720 When this is so hypocritical from the Albanese government, isn't 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.680 it to deny entry for three years to an American 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.600 Israeli yet take no action against hate preachers? 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.840 Of course it is, but right from the first instance, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.720 when they took no action at all about what happened 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.600 at the opera House. Right from that moment they signaled 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.160 that we're just not going to have anything to do 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.240 with it, that it's somehow okay for this to go on. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.120 And it's got worse and worse. The university's taking over 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:47.160 this mantra. And if you go back in history nineteen 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.200 thirty three, himlu and Gurry knew they had to capture 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.200 the youth, and they went first to the University of 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.160 Frankfort because they knew that was a liberal one and 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.760 if it fell over, the rest would fallover. It's exactly 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:03.560 what happened. And so it became you use the word fashionable, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:09.040 it became okay, it became appreciate, years normalized, and that's 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.119 what's happening in this country. And unless the government takes 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.680 a strong stand, then it will continue to be normalized 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.600 and our country will be torn to shreds. It just 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.160 is totally unacceptable to. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:23.120 Have this sort of. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.399 Build up of what is so ugly, which is so 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.280 destructive within our own land. To see it allowed to 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.040 happen here because government simply will not take a stand 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.960 so hypocritical is an almost too kind a word. It 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:49.879 is the personification of weakness of determination to try and 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.359 compromise in a situation where compromise is not welcome. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.240 I just feel like every day when it's another matter 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.800 like this, I feel despair, Caleb. I mean, how can 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.320 this be the case? How can this be the country 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.960 we're living in? When hillel Ford is denied a visa 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:06.720 well with. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:11.879 No good reason, clearly, but social division seems to be 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.560 a specialty of this federal government. As Bromwin said, you know, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.440 right from the steps of the Opera House, nothing has 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.680 been done, and you get to the point where you 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.119 have this case now being run in the courts, and 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.920 I'll declare that I've never thought aighteen c should exist, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.600 but that is the only recourse that has now been 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.040 available to do anything about this. I mean, when you've 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.520 got someone preaching about killing Jews, I mean, surely that 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.119 is incitement to violence, and they've never taken the opportunity 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.240 to go after that. So it now has to be 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.359 run through the civil courts. Both the state and federal 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.080 governments I think have been lax on this. They've done 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.080 very little to actually stem this issue. There's been no 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.960 appetite from law enforcement to charge someone and run one 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.080 of these cases. And I've always argued that you have 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.200 to do it, even if the case fails in court, 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.240 run the criminal case and see how it goes, because 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.840 if it fails, there will then be a mandate to 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.560 do something about it. But no one's had the guts 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:08.959 to do it. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:09.959 Absolutely. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.240 Indeed, now we've been speaking about Trump's illegal immigration, which 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.800 is in the spotlight, but this fascinating story in the 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.160 Financial Review today reports at one hundred and eighty three 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.600 people on ten boats have arrived since the start of 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.280 the financial year. This is Home Affairs data, and they 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.359 say it's on track to be the highest number of 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:34.040 boats since twenty thirteen. I mean, Ronman, this is enormous. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.159 It should be a major issue, and it's not. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.720 We need Ray Hadley back wringing the bell every boat 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:46.240 arrives because the Labor Party has tried to cloak itself 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.520 in clothing that it doesn't belong to them. They're using 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.640 language that doesn't belong to them. They said, oh, yes, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:58.600 we've agreed with the coalition's policy or coalition government's policy, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.200 turned back the boats. The whole process that was put 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.040 in place that stopped the votes, but then they started 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.159 to dismantle it gently so the people didn't notice. So 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.880 whenever there's an election and they know that this government 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.000 is weak, the smugglers know this government is weak on 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.520 the question of boat arrivals, they then start to push 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.199 the envelope again. And that's exactly what's happening. So it 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.320 does need to be highlighted because the more it's pushed 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.480 under the carpet and not talked about every day, then 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:32.600 it will increase. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.359 And what I think so worrying about this story Caleb 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.359 in the fin Review is that they went to Tony 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.040 Burke for comment and he wouldn't comments. We actually don't 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.040 know what precisely has happened to these votes. 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.080 Well, he's a legal voter rivals precisely. Why would they 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.119 want to tell us because we might actually learn something 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.040 in that and that would be bad. I mean, you 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:52.840 have to wonder how much of this goes back to 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.040 the n ZYQ case as well, because if the government 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.320 looks weak, people will try it on. We've had cases 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.320 where people have made land and the only way we've 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.439 found out about it is because the local Aboriginal people 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.480 have been flying drones about and gone Oh, hang on 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.960 a minute. Who were these people? Why are they there? 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.760 And they've tipped off the authorities. I mean, who knows 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.480 how many other people could have made land and we 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.399 don't even know about them. They could be floating around 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:18.360 somewhere in the country. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.360 The message back exactly. 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.360 You send the message of weakness and people will give 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.000 it a go. We'll talk about a story tonight on 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.040 the Late Debate about the courts intervening in another one 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.680 of these cases where the government tried to deport them, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.960 but they did it three years after the offense. So 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.000 the court said, we'll get your act together time and again. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.800 The message is sent that we are weak when it 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.840 comes to migration and law. So why wouldn't you have 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.160 a go at getting exactly? 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.160 I spoke before about how this issue is playing out 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.000 in the United States with the violent riots in Los 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:54.919 Angeles bron When do you think Trump's actions in enforcing 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.000 the law. I mean that it might be heavy handed. 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.720 We don't know the actual tree by the ice officers. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.960 But do you think this is fair enough or do 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.400 you think he's been too harsh here? 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.280 No, I don't think he's been too harsh because I 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:15.080 can well remember the chaos that occurred in twenty twenty 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.959 with the Black Lives Matter riots that just spread right 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.720 across the country, very sick and nothing was done to 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:27.399 stop them. And he's I think, taking to nip it 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.080 in the bug and in Los Angeles, you've got to 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.240 expect it's going to happen there. But by taking a 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.080 strong stance and saying no, it's not going to happen again, 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.480 We're not going to have this behavior again. I think 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:40.240 that was sensible. 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.720 We just hope it doesn't escalate and that no one 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.720 is actually killed. Just finally, reports tonight in the City 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.879 Morning Herald that ABC is planning to acts Q and A, 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:54.800 the political TV show on a Monday night. This comes 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.800 a day after ten scrapped the project. Caleb, is anyone 0:22:58.840 --> 0:22:59.720 going to miss Q and A? 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.199 Probably not having look, you know again, it has to 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.240 be said, as many said last night, that it's sad 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.439 to see another current affairs programs disappear from television. But 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.439 Q and A is just not fit for purpose anymore. 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.880 I mean, there was a time when it first started 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.439 under Tony Jones' hosting where it was pulling a million 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.320 viewers every episode, and it was a place for public 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.800 debate about serious issues facing the country with people from 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.680 a broad political spectrum. It's just become these days a 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.480 love in for lefties. People are not watching it because 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.120 it's not actually debating the issues that matter to everyday Australians, 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:35.240 so there's no purpose for it. 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:37.520 No. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.080 Indeed, I think a lot of those shows, well, most 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.960 of the shows on the ABC are too biased, left leaning, 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:44.840 no diversity of. 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.240 Views and it's a big problem. 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.960 Calebon from a bishop, so great to have you both, 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:53.600 pleasure now. The coalition's position on net zero is emerging 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.159 as a major point of contention since the election. The 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.280 Liberal Party in particular is in disarray over what its 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.760 policy should be. Moderate Liberals are adamant net zero should 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.080 be maintained, but Conservatives say it needs. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:08.520 To be dumped. 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.199 This is a feel that Energy Minister Energy Shadow Minister 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.560 Dantean is going to have to deal with and he 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.560 joins me live now, Dan, great to see you again. Well, 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.560 what will the coalition's position be on net zero? 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.840 Well, Shahi, we're going to make sure that we do 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.880 the work that the Labor government clearly didn't do. Before 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:38.080 we set our energy and emissions reduction target. We found 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:42.679 out during the last election campaign that the modeling, the 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:47.800 reputech modeling that the government based all their work on 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:52.960 is now worthless. It's not worth the paper that it 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:56.520 was written on. And so what we're now seeing is 0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.840 electricity prices going up, We're seeing gas prices going up, 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:06.360 We're seeing emissions flat lining. We're seeing major industrial players 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.920 in this country, like the Tomago aluminum smelter, under serious 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.240