WEBVTT - The Media Show | 12 July 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:05.880 Vince is the Media Show with Jack outing, Hello and 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.760 welcome to the Media Show. Tonight, we will discuss spin 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.200 doctors at Queensland Health, a crisis at Network ten, and 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.960 a toxic on air rant by former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.880 But first, Joe Biden is desperately fighting to keep his 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.960 presidential candidacy alive, but the unyielding support he once enjoyed 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.520 from the US media has dissipated. Today, he spoke at 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.840 NATO during a lengthy press conference where he trailed off 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.559 numerous times and made some incredibly damaging gaffes. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.040 Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.920 vice president? Do I think she was not qualified to 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.880 be president? So let's start there. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.519 And journalists were having none of it. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.200 Nearly every question involved bewilderment and why Biden was still 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:52.840 in the race. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.960 Our political future has hung over the NATO summit a 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.960 little bit this week. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.760 You mixed up the president Zelenski and Putin earlier today. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.760 But what makes this moment in history so unique is 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.160 that it is not your enemies who are calling on 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.080 you to reconsider your decision to stay in the race. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.080 It's your friends, supporters, people who think you've done a 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:15.120 great job. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.640 And after a while it started to get weird. He 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.440 does this thing where he whispers and I'm not sure 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.600 exactly what he thinks it sounds like, but it's bad. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:31.520 When unions do better, everybody does better. Everybody does better, 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.240 and we talk about how for example and when I went, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.600 but the airds add things all the time. Very end, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.120 it's not going to happen. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.000 Don't say that. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.320 But if you think the NATO press conference was bad, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.360 take a look at the moment he confused the leader 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.920 of Ukraine with Vladimir Putin. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.360 And now I want to hand it over to the 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.080 President of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.520 has to determination, ladies and gentlemen, President Putin. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.800 It's no wonder that even The New York Times is 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.720 now campaigning for Biden to step down. Biden advises way 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.760 how to convince him to end his campaign close allies 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.320 of the President of developing a case for why he 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:21.200 should step aside. But mister Biden is increasingly isolated now. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.440 Part of the concern is that Biden's crack addled, convicted 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.799 Felon's son Hunter Biden has started to appear in oval 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.160 office meetings, and the press is not too happy about this. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.480 So Kevin McCarthy just said that when he was the speaker, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.920 many times when we had meetings in the Oval Office, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.280 Jill was there as well when the first ladies in 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.640 these meetings. Is she making decisions or is she just 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:44.960 advising the president? 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:45.240 Now? 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.440 The president is the President of the United States, he 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.359 makes decisions. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.600 Okay, another family member. President Biden has told me before 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.040 he and his son don't have any business dealings together. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.880 So what is Hunter Biden doing in White House meetings? 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.120 Are you talking about the meeting where they came together 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.480 from Camp David and the two of them walked to 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.520 the President's meeting and he was there. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.400 There's a report that DAIDs were struck by his presence 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.480 during their discussion. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.919 Look, I can't I'm certainly not going to get into 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.640 private conversations that occur. What I can say is, and 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.360 I talked to this, I spoke to this before, is 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.480 that when they came back from Camp David, the President 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.960 spent a couple of days at Camp David with his family. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.920 He is very close to his family, as you know. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.960 It was the week of fourth of July, which is 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.920 why his family members were here last week. They walked together, 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.880 and they walked together into the meeting. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.040 Can you say if Hunter Biden has access to classified information? 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:46.360 No? 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.600 Well, let's bring in media writer at The Australian, Sophie 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.520 Elsworth and Scott used contributor James James and start with 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.240 you great to haven't you here? This was his opportunity 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.280 to dispel all of the conjecture about his cognitive decline, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.400 which is obvious to us. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:08.320 How did it go? 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.080 I think that he's done enough to buy him some time, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.320 Like I know all the gaps we just saw there, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.679 the needless aggressive way he was dealing with the once 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.640 friendly press. My favorite one was when he said that 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.200 he's started scheduling vun raises earlier in the day, not 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.520 for him, but for everyone else, because he wants other 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.159 people to be able to go home at ten, Like 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.640 the defensive I'm not tired. You guys are all tired, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.200 so you guys can leave me alone. I think the 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.640 issue is, though, like when he calls Zelenski Putin, when 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.880 he calls Kamala Harris Trump, how much of that is 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.560 already priced into Joe Biden to candidate who was surprised 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.400 that he would do that, and the people around him 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.479 right now, they're senior Democrats calling on him to either 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.520 stay or go. They're not there out of the love 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.400 of country. They're not there out of a dedication to 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.080 public service. They're there for Team Blue. And if Biden's 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.600 the guy that's going to win for teen Blue this November, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.760 Biden stays. And the problem for them is that they 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.240 don't have like a ninety two Clinton or an oait 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.880 Obama in the wings, because if they did today, said today, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.080 Biden would be somewhere yelling at nurses that his copy 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.880 is too hot. The fact is Biden's still the best 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.240 they've got, and unless the Poles tell you, Marl liyes, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:17.680 he's going. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.320 To stay on. Yeah. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.880 And the other thing is, I think you raise a 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.080 really good point about the gaffs being bad, but he's 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.120 been doing this for three years, and Sophie'd love to 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:26.720 bring you in. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:28.920 I think there is a degree. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.240 Of Now these journalists have been exposed, they're covering themselves 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.200 because it is unavoidable. But to James's point, he's been 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.640 doing this for a long time. There's nothing that significantly 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.479 an outlier. Why now all the pressure, why now. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.200 I think now because he has got his own people 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.360 internally turning on him. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.840 Jack, and also that presidential debate. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.960 A few weeks ago was an absolute disaster and the 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.480 media couldn't shy away from that. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.080 So now they actually have egg on. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:10.920 Their face because I would argue the antics of President 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.240 Biden at various media calls and appearances is not that 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.920 different to what he was like twelve, eighteen, twenty four 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:19.440 months ago. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.080 But suddenly the. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.160 Media pack, predominantly in the US and also here in Australia, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.560 has woken up and said, we have a problem on 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.520 our hands. So I don't think President Biden will be 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.120 going anywhere. But the media has been exposed, I believe, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.599 for not calling this out earlier, and now it appears 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.400 that they're playing catch up in the lead up to 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.800 the presidential election later this year. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:44.359 Yeah, really, well said. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.080 Not all journalists, though, are playing that game, and some 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.120 are still covering for the president and some are more 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.200 subtle than others. Radio host Andrea Lawful Sanders lost her 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:59.720 job at WRD Radio after admitting her post debate interview 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.680 with President Joe Biden was based on questions the Biden 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.720 camp fed her. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.240 Andrea, let me ask you here about your interviews and 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.480 something I listened to both of them, and there's something 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.600 that's similar here. You each were you asked four questions, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.800 and maybe that's what you were allowed to ask by 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.360 the campaign or the White House, but they were essentially 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.880 the same questions. Both interviews about accomplishments progress in your 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.200 respective state, what's at stake in the election, what he 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.600 has to say about his debate performance, and what he 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.000 would say to voters who think their vote doesn't matter 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.880 or might sit this election out. Were those questions given 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.880 to you by the White House or did you have 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.880 for the campaign or did you have to submit questions 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.280 ahead of this interview? 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.440 The questions were said to me for approval. I approved 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.800 to them. And it gets worse. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.480 A radio show in Milwaukee was one of the first 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.120 places to get a post debate interview with Biden, and shockingly, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.600 the White House asked them to edit the interview to 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.760 make him look sharper. CNN reports a Milwaukee radio station 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.040 agreed to make two edits to an interview recorded with 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.360 President Joe Biden earlier this month at the request of 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.160 his campaign. The station's owner, Civic Media, which is said 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.960 on Thursday now let's bring the panel back in James. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:23.240 Both egregious situations. Now this isn't me saying, hey, I 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.600 plan on asking these questions, which is bad. I'm not 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.160 saying that's acceptable. This is the Biden camp saying you 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.800 may only ask him one of these questions. Put that 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.240 to one side. Then you've got other people editing him, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:43.040 and the background. The context of this is they're doing 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.080 these interviews to show the American people that he is 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.520 cognitively there. So not only is it a lie, but 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.800 contextually it is a lie that is extremely important. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.800 See, this is what infuriates me so much that the 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.520 media this week has decided that they can start talking 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.920 about Biden's decline. These are two terrible examples, but these 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.160 cannot be the only examples in the forty years of 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.160 the Biden presidency of this going on. But now it's 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.640 okay to say, actually, yeah, six months ago, you know 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.040 that I had an interview with him. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:12.520 It was weird. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:13.920 That is not on. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.080 This is a press pack that for four years has 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.920 either been outright lying to us or at the very best, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.400 going along willingly with the narrative. The Democratic Party is saying, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.240 because we've had oh you know, there's the weird clips 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.360 of him, but behind closed doors he's doing skateboard tricks 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.840 and reciting Sonet's backwards and the media was like, oh, well, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.000 I'll take that. Yeah, I'll know, press send on that copy. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.480 It's a complete lie. They've been caught out now because 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.280 the truth is in front of us after this debate, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.520 and their reputation's at stake, because how can we trust 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.160 anything that people have been saying, Biden's healthy, Biden's healthy, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.080 Biden's healthy. But here's my point on another issue. Sorry, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.240 you're the guy that said Biden's healthy, we don't trust 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:52.760 you anymore. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.679 Yeah, it's a really good point, Sophie. Institutional trust in 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.599 general has been on the decline. It's something that we 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.359 know how much has this whole saga damaged the credibility 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.040 of the institutional media, the journalists who sit there. I 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.760 take a point that make the point that Peter Doucey 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.960 in the front row from Fox News, he's consistently been 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.400 asking quite provocative questions. He's someone that's quite a good 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.400 operator there. But the pack in general has really been 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.680 running a protection racket for this man and this presidency. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.040 It's the opposite of holding power to account. They're really 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.240 protecting him. Why are they doing that and how much 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.440 damage has this caused their credibility. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:39.040 I think it's caused immense damage to the media's integrity. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.520 And also they're doing this because a large contingency of 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.840 the media, not just in Australia, not just in the US, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.760 but around the world is left leaning and they want 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.680 to be players. They don't want to do their jobs. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.280 They want to come in and be advocates and activists. Unfortunately, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.599 the media industry is seeing more of this. However, I 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.280 would argue that Joe Biden needs to front the cameras 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.560 and needs to do more live TV so we can 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.920 see him for what he is. Forget the teleprompters, forget 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.640 the transcripts, and that's what we saw in their debate 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.000 with Donald Trump, where it was an absolute dog's breakfast 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.599 because he couldn't cope under that situation. The man is 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.000 eighty one, he'll be eighty two in November, possibly eighty 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.160 six if he wins his next term by the time 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.280 he ends, So if he's like this now, I think 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:34.520 there's a pretty rocky road ahead until November, and if 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.800 he is the presidential candidate, and does win. I think 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.040 this is incredibly concerning for America and the world. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:42.840 Yeah, it's a really good point. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.559 Let's move on now, because Malcolm Turbull went on the 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.199 project this week and instead of having anything remotely constructive 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.480 to say, he went on yet another toxic rant against 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.520 the very man who leads his own party. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.280 What sort of prime minister will Peter Dunton make if 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:58.800 he wins? 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.800 I think that's something we should contemplate with dread. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:08.560 Really he's a thug. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.880 So how did Peter Dutton respond? 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.480 I just think people can see through it and I 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.800 wish him the best. I think he diminishes himself by 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.240 making his comments. Malcolm's got an extra grind. I think 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:23.680 it's sad. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.480 Let's bring the paddle back in James. Quite a contrast there, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.040 Dutton choosing to ignore an opportunity to whack this man 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.160 who was essentially not called him evil, but he's derided 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.120 him on a moral pretty close, pretty close to calling 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.880 him evil, a thug, all these really volatile words, and 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.240 Peter Dutton is you know, he wishes him well, what 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.720 do you make of the two different presers? 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.719 I saw it doesn't handle it really classically because it's 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.640 very tempting and very easy to go on TV or 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.319 radio and say that no one's cared what Malcolm Temple's 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.720 had to say in six years. It's easy to say 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.760 that his two biggest legacies of the NBN and Snowy Highs, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.439 are a colossal phase. It's really easy to say that 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.000 when Paul Keaton criticizes a labor party as front page 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.640 of the Australian, when Malcolm turn will criticize the Liberals, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.319 it's the third segment of the Sunday episode of a 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.080 middling TV show and a failing network. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.040 But good I'm Peter Dutton for not. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.600 Raising any of those easy and rewarding points to make 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:20.000 on TV. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.120 Yeah, it's a good point, Sophie. The interview itself on 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.480 the Project, it was a bit weak. I thought it 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.760 was strange they would get Malcolm Turble. There's someone who 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.280 is just essentially an activist. We're talking about activists the 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 media before. He is someone who has become one who 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.959 had a lot of credibility and he's turned into this 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.600 ball of hate. Just to sit there and not push 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.280 back at any of these suggestions and giggle like a 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.160 bunch of idiots. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.280 I mean is that good television for you? 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.280 Not really, Jack, but they are catering to their leftist audience. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.000 You could see the presenters on the program were absolutely 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.880 lapping it up and Malcolm term Will in my view, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.040 completely embarrassed and humiliated himself by showing how bitter and 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.320 twisted he has become. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.520 But he's going to get these. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.800 Softball interviews because he's giving the answers. He gave the 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.199 thug line that has been picked up by media all 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.480 around the country. That was what he wanted to do. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.480 That's his modus operandi is to really attack the coalition. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.480 And if you want someone to attack the coalition and 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.240 do it day in, day out, his number is on 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.960 speed dial with a large contingency of the leftist media 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:30.680 in Australia. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.120 Yeah, well said, we're going to take a quick break, 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.360 but when we're back. How highly paid bureaucrats try to 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.880 use your money to learn how to speak to the media. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.480 Welcome back now to Queensland, where the Department of Health 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.880 has become embroiled in a cash for spin scandal. The 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:57.200 Courier Mail reports Queensland Health hired agency to protect image 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.760 under LNP attack. A furious health miner Shannon Fentaman said 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.680 she had nothing to do with Queensland Health's controversial move 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.080 to seek media training for executives, but then intervene to 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.280 axit after becoming aware The Courier Mail had asked questions. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.440 It was today revealed Queensland Health hired a communications agency 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.920 to teach top bureaucrats how to protect the government's image 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.720 from L ANDP attack when parliamentary estimates hearing start this month. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.680 Queensland Health allocated tens of thousands of dollars to engage 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:35.800 Brisbane's communication agency Roland to deliver media training to its executives. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.160 Now let's bring the panel back in James. I've always 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.000 got an issue. I've got an issue for a few things. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.320 First of all, the Palichet government when Anastasia Palichet was 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.880 the Premier, made a reputation for itself hiring all these 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.600 spin doctors to about thirty at one point in her 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:57.240 office just to massage the messaging to batterway criticism. It's 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.000 very hard when you're a journalist in an under recent 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:04.480 source newsroom to do your journalism in these situations. Queensland 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.160 has had issues with hospital ramping, shortage of nurses all 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.720 of these major issues which are impacting Queensland as lives. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.600 Instead of fixing it or hiring consultants to help them 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.880 figuring it out, they're trying to hire people to spin 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.120 it so that it doesn't look as bad. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:22.520 Yeah. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.280 Yeah, And with the Paloja thing, it's like, if you 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.160 hire the journalists, there's no one left to criticize your government. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.680 Yeah, they hire all the best. Yeah. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.800 It's the interesting thing for me is that Australians tend 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.840 to have and it's probably good for our society that 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.760 they do, but they tend to have a real faith 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.240 in their institutions, in the public service. They think like 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.080 they're the boffins. They're doing their job, they're getting it done, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.160 they're not really political. It's stories like this that really 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.120 chip away at that trust. And if people start to think, 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.560 in a red hot example like this that the public 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.720 some bureaucrats are getting far too close to one side 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.040 of politics, that trickles down to a situation where if 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.440 people start to really not trust their institution, it's not 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.480 great for how the country is actually going to run. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.119 You're right, there is a political element to it as well, Sophie, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:09.360 because part of the brief was specifically to buffer LMP attax. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.640 But the LMPE tax are about changing policy, so it's 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.760 a really weird area for bureaucrats bureaucrats to get into. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.200 But I guess i'd make the point all that money 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.840 that you're spending on spin doctors, what about more frontline nurses, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.240 what about improving facilities? To me, it just doesn't seem 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.479 like the right way to spend taxpayer dollars. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.760 Well, I think you make a very good point there. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.359 It doesn't wash well with the public when taxpayer funds 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:40.640 are being spent in excess. Some would argue on spin 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.840 doctors to make sure the government's messaging is put out 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.960 in a fashion that they want it to be put out. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.920 This is a government in Queensland that is really struggling 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.040 ahead of the upcoming October election. I believe they're clutching 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.440 at straws and they're trying to do anything to try 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.720 and reshape their appearance in the media, make sure that 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.800 they come off, you know, come out of this looking good, 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.240 and they're doing everything they can to do that. But 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.960 this was highly embarrassing for them to be caught doing 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.560 this and then have to say that, you know, they 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.920 will no longer be engaging spin doctors. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.880 Yeah, well said Network ten, maybe in the firing line 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.600 after a major corporate merger involving its parent company has 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.119 resulted in the need for billions of dollars and cuts. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:31.639 Umbrella reports Paramount bosses have earmarked close to three billion 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.600 Australian dollars in cost savings following this week's announcement that 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:41.199 Skydance Media will acquire Paramount's owner, National Amusements and merge 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.960 with sky Dance with Paramount Global to form new Paramount. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:46.399 Now. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.719 Umbrella goes on to say that this puts Network ten 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.960 in a precarious position, but sources within Network ten have 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.240 disputed the more severe doom and gloom rumors. Now let's 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.280 bring the panel back in New Paramount. First of all, 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.359 I mean, what a day, What a creative for a 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:06.879 company Network ten. It's the project. Obviously, all broadcasters are 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:11.080 struggling with transitioning from the traditional linear model to a 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.800 digital model, but this in particular seems to be the 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.399 weakest of I guess the three major free to airs. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:18.960 How do you think this is going to play out? 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.119 Primarily, it's going to play out poorly for Malcolm Turnbull 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.880 because that listed it's just shrinking by the day. But yeah, 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.760 I mean, as you say, the Channel ten is not 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.880 the only freedoware channel under a bit of pressure right now, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.560 and certainly it's not the first time we've heard the 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.080 Channel ten's on its last day, so we'll see what 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.320 plays out here. But yeah, you raise a good point. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.080 I mean, I cannot remember the last time I sat 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.120 down and watched freeware television at all. And I can't 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.280 remember the last time a show that was on seven, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.720 nine or ten captured the imaginations of my friends or 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.000 anyone younger than me. I just I struggle to see 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.000 in thirty years time, if there is any freeware channels 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:55.359 at all. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.520 It'll be interesting. Sophie else worth your. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:03.280 Thoughts, really, James makes very good points there that there 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.720 is a major overhaul in the way people consume their content. Obviously, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.800 streaming is taking eyeballs off linear freedomware TV, and this 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:13.880 is the real challenge. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.240 So the juries out on whether the commercial. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.720 Networks can sustain this surge in people turning to streamers. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.560 But we know for a long time Channel ten has 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:27.760 been struggling, and this isn't foreign to many media companies 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.200 at the moment, both here in Australia and globally. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.800 Yeah, and I think where Channel ten might actually get 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.320 into a bit of trouble is if they decide to 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.480 act some of the rights and the licenses such as 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.680 The Simpsons or other programs that they aren't necessarily producing 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.480 here but they're leveraging here for quite financial gain for 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.399 paramount plus the streaming service, or do they get rid 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.639 of it. That's something that could end up hurting the 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.360 bottom dollar and leading to more job losses. But look, 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.800 let's move on to stories of the week, James, what 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:56.240 do you have for me? 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.960