Speaker 1: Vince is the Media Show with Jack outing, Hello and
Speaker 1: welcome to the Media Show. Tonight, we will discuss spin
Speaker 1: doctors at Queensland Health, a crisis at Network ten, and
Speaker 1: a toxic on air rant by former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.
Speaker 1: But first, Joe Biden is desperately fighting to keep his
Speaker 1: presidential candidacy alive, but the unyielding support he once enjoyed
Speaker 1: from the US media has dissipated. Today, he spoke at
Speaker 1: NATO during a lengthy press conference where he trailed off
Speaker 1: numerous times and made some incredibly damaging gaffes.
Speaker 2: Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be
Speaker 2: vice president? Do I think she was not qualified to
Speaker 2: be president? So let's start there.
Speaker 3: And journalists were having none of it.
Speaker 1: Nearly every question involved bewilderment and why Biden was still
Speaker 1: in the race.
Speaker 4: Our political future has hung over the NATO summit a
Speaker 4: little bit this week.
Speaker 1: You mixed up the president Zelenski and Putin earlier today.
Speaker 5: But what makes this moment in history so unique is
Speaker 5: that it is not your enemies who are calling on
Speaker 5: you to reconsider your decision to stay in the race.
Speaker 5: It's your friends, supporters, people who think you've done a
Speaker 5: great job.
Speaker 1: And after a while it started to get weird. He
Speaker 1: does this thing where he whispers and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: exactly what he thinks it sounds like, but it's bad.
Speaker 2: When unions do better, everybody does better. Everybody does better,
Speaker 2: and we talk about how for example and when I went,
Speaker 2: but the airds add things all the time. Very end,
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3: Don't say that.
Speaker 1: But if you think the NATO press conference was bad,
Speaker 1: take a look at the moment he confused the leader
Speaker 1: of Ukraine with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2: And now I want to hand it over to the
Speaker 2: President of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he
Speaker 2: has to determination, ladies and gentlemen, President Putin.
Speaker 1: It's no wonder that even The New York Times is
Speaker 1: now campaigning for Biden to step down. Biden advises way
Speaker 1: how to convince him to end his campaign close allies
Speaker 1: of the President of developing a case for why he
Speaker 1: should step aside. But mister Biden is increasingly isolated now.
Speaker 1: Part of the concern is that Biden's crack addled, convicted
Speaker 1: Felon's son Hunter Biden has started to appear in oval
Speaker 1: office meetings, and the press is not too happy about this.
Speaker 6: So Kevin McCarthy just said that when he was the speaker,
Speaker 6: many times when we had meetings in the Oval Office,
Speaker 6: Jill was there as well when the first ladies in
Speaker 6: these meetings. Is she making decisions or is she just
Speaker 6: advising the president?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 7: The president is the President of the United States, he
Speaker 7: makes decisions.
Speaker 6: Okay, another family member. President Biden has told me before
Speaker 6: he and his son don't have any business dealings together.
Speaker 6: So what is Hunter Biden doing in White House meetings?
Speaker 7: Are you talking about the meeting where they came together
Speaker 7: from Camp David and the two of them walked to
Speaker 7: the President's meeting and he was there.
Speaker 6: There's a report that DAIDs were struck by his presence
Speaker 6: during their discussion.
Speaker 7: Look, I can't I'm certainly not going to get into
Speaker 7: private conversations that occur. What I can say is, and
Speaker 7: I talked to this, I spoke to this before, is
Speaker 7: that when they came back from Camp David, the President
Speaker 7: spent a couple of days at Camp David with his family.
Speaker 7: He is very close to his family, as you know.
Speaker 7: It was the week of fourth of July, which is
Speaker 7: why his family members were here last week. They walked together,
Speaker 7: and they walked together into the meeting.
Speaker 6: Can you say if Hunter Biden has access to classified information?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Well, let's bring in media writer at The Australian, Sophie
Speaker 1: Elsworth and Scott used contributor James James and start with
Speaker 1: you great to haven't you here? This was his opportunity
Speaker 1: to dispel all of the conjecture about his cognitive decline,
Speaker 1: which is obvious to us.
Speaker 3: How did it go?
Speaker 8: I think that he's done enough to buy him some time,
Speaker 8: Like I know all the gaps we just saw there,
Speaker 8: the needless aggressive way he was dealing with the once
Speaker 8: friendly press. My favorite one was when he said that
Speaker 8: he's started scheduling vun raises earlier in the day, not
Speaker 8: for him, but for everyone else, because he wants other
Speaker 8: people to be able to go home at ten, Like
Speaker 8: the defensive I'm not tired. You guys are all tired,
Speaker 8: so you guys can leave me alone. I think the
Speaker 8: issue is, though, like when he calls Zelenski Putin, when
Speaker 8: he calls Kamala Harris Trump, how much of that is
Speaker 8: already priced into Joe Biden to candidate who was surprised
Speaker 8: that he would do that, and the people around him
Speaker 8: right now, they're senior Democrats calling on him to either
Speaker 8: stay or go. They're not there out of the love
Speaker 8: of country. They're not there out of a dedication to
Speaker 8: public service. They're there for Team Blue. And if Biden's
Speaker 8: the guy that's going to win for teen Blue this November,
Speaker 8: Biden stays. And the problem for them is that they
Speaker 8: don't have like a ninety two Clinton or an oait
Speaker 8: Obama in the wings, because if they did today, said today,
Speaker 8: Biden would be somewhere yelling at nurses that his copy
Speaker 8: is too hot. The fact is Biden's still the best
Speaker 8: they've got, and unless the Poles tell you, Marl liyes,
Speaker 8: he's going.
Speaker 3: To stay on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, I think you raise a
Speaker 1: really good point about the gaffs being bad, but he's
Speaker 1: been doing this for three years, and Sophie'd love to
Speaker 1: bring you in.
Speaker 3: I think there is a degree.
Speaker 1: Of Now these journalists have been exposed, they're covering themselves
Speaker 1: because it is unavoidable. But to James's point, he's been
Speaker 1: doing this for a long time. There's nothing that significantly
Speaker 1: an outlier. Why now all the pressure, why now.
Speaker 9: I think now because he has got his own people
Speaker 9: internally turning on him.
Speaker 10: Jack, and also that presidential debate.
Speaker 9: A few weeks ago was an absolute disaster and the
Speaker 9: media couldn't shy away from that.
Speaker 10: So now they actually have egg on.
Speaker 9: Their face because I would argue the antics of President
Speaker 9: Biden at various media calls and appearances is not that
Speaker 9: different to what he was like twelve, eighteen, twenty four
Speaker 9: months ago.
Speaker 10: But suddenly the.
Speaker 9: Media pack, predominantly in the US and also here in Australia,
Speaker 9: has woken up and said, we have a problem on
Speaker 9: our hands. So I don't think President Biden will be
Speaker 9: going anywhere. But the media has been exposed, I believe,
Speaker 9: for not calling this out earlier, and now it appears
Speaker 9: that they're playing catch up in the lead up to
Speaker 9: the presidential election later this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, well said.
Speaker 1: Not all journalists, though, are playing that game, and some
Speaker 1: are still covering for the president and some are more
Speaker 1: subtle than others. Radio host Andrea Lawful Sanders lost her
Speaker 1: job at WRD Radio after admitting her post debate interview
Speaker 1: with President Joe Biden was based on questions the Biden
Speaker 1: camp fed her.
Speaker 4: Andrea, let me ask you here about your interviews and
Speaker 4: something I listened to both of them, and there's something
Speaker 4: that's similar here. You each were you asked four questions,
Speaker 4: and maybe that's what you were allowed to ask by
Speaker 4: the campaign or the White House, but they were essentially
Speaker 4: the same questions. Both interviews about accomplishments progress in your
Speaker 4: respective state, what's at stake in the election, what he
Speaker 4: has to say about his debate performance, and what he
Speaker 4: would say to voters who think their vote doesn't matter
Speaker 4: or might sit this election out. Were those questions given
Speaker 4: to you by the White House or did you have
Speaker 4: for the campaign or did you have to submit questions
Speaker 4: ahead of this interview?
Speaker 3: The questions were said to me for approval. I approved
Speaker 3: to them. And it gets worse.
Speaker 1: A radio show in Milwaukee was one of the first
Speaker 1: places to get a post debate interview with Biden, and shockingly,
Speaker 1: the White House asked them to edit the interview to
Speaker 1: make him look sharper. CNN reports a Milwaukee radio station
Speaker 1: agreed to make two edits to an interview recorded with
Speaker 1: President Joe Biden earlier this month at the request of
Speaker 1: his campaign. The station's owner, Civic Media, which is said
Speaker 1: on Thursday now let's bring the panel back in James.
Speaker 1: Both egregious situations. Now this isn't me saying, hey, I
Speaker 1: plan on asking these questions, which is bad. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's acceptable. This is the Biden camp saying you
Speaker 1: may only ask him one of these questions. Put that
Speaker 1: to one side. Then you've got other people editing him,
Speaker 1: and the background. The context of this is they're doing
Speaker 1: these interviews to show the American people that he is
Speaker 1: cognitively there. So not only is it a lie, but
Speaker 1: contextually it is a lie that is extremely important.
Speaker 8: See, this is what infuriates me so much that the
Speaker 8: media this week has decided that they can start talking
Speaker 8: about Biden's decline. These are two terrible examples, but these
Speaker 8: cannot be the only examples in the forty years of
Speaker 8: the Biden presidency of this going on. But now it's
Speaker 8: okay to say, actually, yeah, six months ago, you know
Speaker 8: that I had an interview with him.
Speaker 3: It was weird.
Speaker 1: That is not on.
Speaker 8: This is a press pack that for four years has
Speaker 8: either been outright lying to us or at the very best,
Speaker 8: going along willingly with the narrative. The Democratic Party is saying,
Speaker 8: because we've had oh you know, there's the weird clips
Speaker 8: of him, but behind closed doors he's doing skateboard tricks
Speaker 8: and reciting Sonet's backwards and the media was like, oh, well,
Speaker 8: I'll take that. Yeah, I'll know, press send on that copy.
Speaker 8: It's a complete lie. They've been caught out now because
Speaker 8: the truth is in front of us after this debate,
Speaker 8: and their reputation's at stake, because how can we trust
Speaker 8: anything that people have been saying, Biden's healthy, Biden's healthy,
Speaker 8: Biden's healthy. But here's my point on another issue. Sorry,
Speaker 8: you're the guy that said Biden's healthy, we don't trust
Speaker 8: you anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good point, Sophie. Institutional trust in
Speaker 1: general has been on the decline. It's something that we
Speaker 1: know how much has this whole saga damaged the credibility
Speaker 1: of the institutional media, the journalists who sit there. I
Speaker 1: take a point that make the point that Peter Doucey
Speaker 1: in the front row from Fox News, he's consistently been
Speaker 1: asking quite provocative questions. He's someone that's quite a good
Speaker 1: operator there. But the pack in general has really been
Speaker 1: running a protection racket for this man and this presidency.
Speaker 1: It's the opposite of holding power to account. They're really
Speaker 1: protecting him. Why are they doing that and how much
Speaker 1: damage has this caused their credibility.
Speaker 9: I think it's caused immense damage to the media's integrity.
Speaker 9: And also they're doing this because a large contingency of
Speaker 9: the media, not just in Australia, not just in the US,
Speaker 9: but around the world is left leaning and they want
Speaker 9: to be players. They don't want to do their jobs.
Speaker 9: They want to come in and be advocates and activists. Unfortunately,
Speaker 9: the media industry is seeing more of this. However, I
Speaker 9: would argue that Joe Biden needs to front the cameras
Speaker 9: and needs to do more live TV so we can
Speaker 9: see him for what he is. Forget the teleprompters, forget
Speaker 9: the transcripts, and that's what we saw in their debate
Speaker 9: with Donald Trump, where it was an absolute dog's breakfast
Speaker 9: because he couldn't cope under that situation. The man is
Speaker 9: eighty one, he'll be eighty two in November, possibly eighty
Speaker 9: six if he wins his next term by the time
Speaker 9: he ends, So if he's like this now, I think
Speaker 9: there's a pretty rocky road ahead until November, and if
Speaker 9: he is the presidential candidate, and does win. I think
Speaker 9: this is incredibly concerning for America and the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good point.
Speaker 1: Let's move on now, because Malcolm Turbull went on the
Speaker 1: project this week and instead of having anything remotely constructive
Speaker 1: to say, he went on yet another toxic rant against
Speaker 1: the very man who leads his own party.
Speaker 10: What sort of prime minister will Peter Dunton make if
Speaker 10: he wins?
Speaker 3: I think that's something we should contemplate with dread.
Speaker 10: Really he's a thug.
Speaker 3: So how did Peter Dutton respond?
Speaker 11: I just think people can see through it and I
Speaker 11: wish him the best. I think he diminishes himself by
Speaker 11: making his comments. Malcolm's got an extra grind. I think
Speaker 11: it's sad.
Speaker 1: Let's bring the paddle back in James. Quite a contrast there,
Speaker 1: Dutton choosing to ignore an opportunity to whack this man
Speaker 1: who was essentially not called him evil, but he's derided
Speaker 1: him on a moral pretty close, pretty close to calling
Speaker 1: him evil, a thug, all these really volatile words, and
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton is you know, he wishes him well, what
Speaker 1: do you make of the two different presers?
Speaker 8: I saw it doesn't handle it really classically because it's
Speaker 8: very tempting and very easy to go on TV or
Speaker 8: radio and say that no one's cared what Malcolm Temple's
Speaker 8: had to say in six years. It's easy to say
Speaker 8: that his two biggest legacies of the NBN and Snowy Highs,
Speaker 8: are a colossal phase. It's really easy to say that
Speaker 8: when Paul Keaton criticizes a labor party as front page
Speaker 8: of the Australian, when Malcolm turn will criticize the Liberals,
Speaker 8: it's the third segment of the Sunday episode of a
Speaker 8: middling TV show and a failing network.
Speaker 3: But good I'm Peter Dutton for not.
Speaker 8: Raising any of those easy and rewarding points to make
Speaker 8: on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point, Sophie. The interview itself on
Speaker 1: the Project, it was a bit weak. I thought it
Speaker 1: was strange they would get Malcolm Turble. There's someone who
Speaker 1: is just essentially an activist. We're talking about activists the
Speaker 1: media before. He is someone who has become one who
Speaker 1: had a lot of credibility and he's turned into this
Speaker 1: ball of hate. Just to sit there and not push
Speaker 1: back at any of these suggestions and giggle like a
Speaker 1: bunch of idiots.
Speaker 3: I mean is that good television for you?
Speaker 10: Not really, Jack, but they are catering to their leftist audience.
Speaker 9: You could see the presenters on the program were absolutely
Speaker 9: lapping it up and Malcolm term Will in my view,
Speaker 9: completely embarrassed and humiliated himself by showing how bitter and
Speaker 9: twisted he has become.
Speaker 10: But he's going to get these.
Speaker 9: Softball interviews because he's giving the answers. He gave the
Speaker 9: thug line that has been picked up by media all
Speaker 9: around the country. That was what he wanted to do.
Speaker 9: That's his modus operandi is to really attack the coalition.
Speaker 9: And if you want someone to attack the coalition and
Speaker 9: do it day in, day out, his number is on
Speaker 9: speed dial with a large contingency of the leftist media
Speaker 9: in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, we're going to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we're back. How highly paid bureaucrats try to
Speaker 1: use your money to learn how to speak to the media.
Speaker 1: Welcome back now to Queensland, where the Department of Health
Speaker 1: has become embroiled in a cash for spin scandal. The
Speaker 1: Courier Mail reports Queensland Health hired agency to protect image
Speaker 1: under LNP attack. A furious health miner Shannon Fentaman said
Speaker 1: she had nothing to do with Queensland Health's controversial move
Speaker 1: to seek media training for executives, but then intervene to
Speaker 1: axit after becoming aware The Courier Mail had asked questions.
Speaker 1: It was today revealed Queensland Health hired a communications agency
Speaker 1: to teach top bureaucrats how to protect the government's image
Speaker 1: from L ANDP attack when parliamentary estimates hearing start this month.
Speaker 1: Queensland Health allocated tens of thousands of dollars to engage
Speaker 1: Brisbane's communication agency Roland to deliver media training to its executives.
Speaker 1: Now let's bring the panel back in James. I've always
Speaker 1: got an issue. I've got an issue for a few things.
Speaker 1: First of all, the Palichet government when Anastasia Palichet was
Speaker 1: the Premier, made a reputation for itself hiring all these
Speaker 1: spin doctors to about thirty at one point in her
Speaker 1: office just to massage the messaging to batterway criticism. It's
Speaker 1: very hard when you're a journalist in an under recent
Speaker 1: source newsroom to do your journalism in these situations. Queensland
Speaker 1: has had issues with hospital ramping, shortage of nurses all
Speaker 1: of these major issues which are impacting Queensland as lives.
Speaker 1: Instead of fixing it or hiring consultants to help them
Speaker 1: figuring it out, they're trying to hire people to spin
Speaker 1: it so that it doesn't look as bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And with the Paloja thing, it's like, if you
Speaker 8: hire the journalists, there's no one left to criticize your government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they hire all the best. Yeah.
Speaker 8: It's the interesting thing for me is that Australians tend
Speaker 8: to have and it's probably good for our society that
Speaker 8: they do, but they tend to have a real faith
Speaker 8: in their institutions, in the public service. They think like
Speaker 8: they're the boffins. They're doing their job, they're getting it done,
Speaker 8: they're not really political. It's stories like this that really
Speaker 8: chip away at that trust. And if people start to think,
Speaker 8: in a red hot example like this that the public
Speaker 8: some bureaucrats are getting far too close to one side
Speaker 8: of politics, that trickles down to a situation where if
Speaker 8: people start to really not trust their institution, it's not
Speaker 8: great for how the country is actually going to run.
Speaker 1: You're right, there is a political element to it as well, Sophie,
Speaker 1: because part of the brief was specifically to buffer LMP attax.
Speaker 1: But the LMPE tax are about changing policy, so it's
Speaker 1: a really weird area for bureaucrats bureaucrats to get into.
Speaker 1: But I guess i'd make the point all that money
Speaker 1: that you're spending on spin doctors, what about more frontline nurses,
Speaker 1: what about improving facilities? To me, it just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the right way to spend taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 10: Well, I think you make a very good point there.
Speaker 9: It doesn't wash well with the public when taxpayer funds
Speaker 9: are being spent in excess. Some would argue on spin
Speaker 9: doctors to make sure the government's messaging is put out
Speaker 9: in a fashion that they want it to be put out.
Speaker 9: This is a government in Queensland that is really struggling
Speaker 9: ahead of the upcoming October election. I believe they're clutching
Speaker 9: at straws and they're trying to do anything to try
Speaker 9: and reshape their appearance in the media, make sure that
Speaker 9: they come off, you know, come out of this looking good,
Speaker 9: and they're doing everything they can to do that. But
Speaker 9: this was highly embarrassing for them to be caught doing
Speaker 9: this and then have to say that, you know, they
Speaker 9: will no longer be engaging spin doctors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said Network ten, maybe in the firing line
Speaker 1: after a major corporate merger involving its parent company has
Speaker 1: resulted in the need for billions of dollars and cuts.
Speaker 1: Umbrella reports Paramount bosses have earmarked close to three billion
Speaker 1: Australian dollars in cost savings following this week's announcement that
Speaker 1: Skydance Media will acquire Paramount's owner, National Amusements and merge
Speaker 1: with sky Dance with Paramount Global to form new Paramount.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Umbrella goes on to say that this puts Network ten
Speaker 1: in a precarious position, but sources within Network ten have
Speaker 1: disputed the more severe doom and gloom rumors. Now let's
Speaker 1: bring the panel back in New Paramount. First of all,
Speaker 1: I mean, what a day, What a creative for a
Speaker 1: company Network ten. It's the project. Obviously, all broadcasters are
Speaker 1: struggling with transitioning from the traditional linear model to a
Speaker 1: digital model, but this in particular seems to be the
Speaker 1: weakest of I guess the three major free to airs.
Speaker 3: How do you think this is going to play out?
Speaker 8: Primarily, it's going to play out poorly for Malcolm Turnbull
Speaker 8: because that listed it's just shrinking by the day. But yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean, as you say, the Channel ten is not
Speaker 8: the only freedoware channel under a bit of pressure right now,
Speaker 8: and certainly it's not the first time we've heard the
Speaker 8: Channel ten's on its last day, so we'll see what
Speaker 8: plays out here. But yeah, you raise a good point.
Speaker 8: I mean, I cannot remember the last time I sat
Speaker 8: down and watched freeware television at all. And I can't
Speaker 8: remember the last time a show that was on seven,
Speaker 8: nine or ten captured the imaginations of my friends or
Speaker 8: anyone younger than me. I just I struggle to see
Speaker 8: in thirty years time, if there is any freeware channels
Speaker 8: at all.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. Sophie else worth your.
Speaker 9: Thoughts, really, James makes very good points there that there
Speaker 9: is a major overhaul in the way people consume their content. Obviously,
Speaker 9: streaming is taking eyeballs off linear freedomware TV, and this
Speaker 9: is the real challenge.
Speaker 10: So the juries out on whether the commercial.
Speaker 9: Networks can sustain this surge in people turning to streamers.
Speaker 9: But we know for a long time Channel ten has
Speaker 9: been struggling, and this isn't foreign to many media companies
Speaker 9: at the moment, both here in Australia and globally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think where Channel ten might actually get
Speaker 1: into a bit of trouble is if they decide to
Speaker 1: act some of the rights and the licenses such as
Speaker 1: The Simpsons or other programs that they aren't necessarily producing
Speaker 1: here but they're leveraging here for quite financial gain for
Speaker 1: paramount plus the streaming service, or do they get rid
Speaker 1: of it. That's something that could end up hurting the
Speaker 1: bottom dollar and leading to more job losses. But look,
Speaker 1: let's move on to stories of the week, James, what
Speaker 1: do you have for me?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So the thing with politicians is they tend to
Speaker 8: be extremely we people, abnormal and just odd strange people.
Speaker 3: And the reason like and they don't journalists though, yeah,
Speaker 3: to be fair, but.
Speaker 4: They don't like that.
Speaker 8: And they tried to do the social media stunts in
Speaker 8: which they look cool. And I've just got a couple
Speaker 8: of examples of just why they should just embrace the
Speaker 8: fact that they're not normal people. So starting off with
Speaker 8: Stephen Mars this week, who wanted to make a big
Speaker 8: announcement about car registration over in Queensland. The music is fantastic,
Speaker 8: so for people not aware that is from the Fast
Speaker 8: and Furious movie franchise. Steve mill is not a cast
Speaker 8: member of it. I don't know how many media advisors
Speaker 8: have stayed on since Palage lost, but.
Speaker 3: I think that might be. He's the one that would
Speaker 3: always post photos in the gym, wouldn't he? I mean
Speaker 3: sees himself.
Speaker 8: I mean he is a big guy, but like still
Speaker 8: not what you wanted a leader. But as if not
Speaker 8: to be outdone, I just want to show you just
Speaker 8: into Alan Victoria Premier today and how she wanted to
Speaker 8: announce her big housing policy.
Speaker 10: We are going to need to get a much big
Speaker 10: out stamp.
Speaker 3: Just put out a press release.
Speaker 1: That's what they think building houses is. They're like done it,
Speaker 1: jobs of our mission complete to the Andrews government lives on.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, That's brilliant. Sophie Elsewhere Story of the week.
Speaker 3: What do you have for us?
Speaker 9: Well, importantly, Jacket's The Australian's sixtieth anniversary on Monday July fifteenth.
Speaker 9: There's obviously the Sky News exclusive documentary that will air
Speaker 9: at eight pm on Monday night, and we also have
Speaker 9: a weekend magazine coming out in Saturday's Weekend Australian featuring
Speaker 9: some of the biggest movers and shakers over the last
Speaker 9: sixty years, so very historical time journalism, very important for
Speaker 9: the Australian, so make sure you tune in and read
Speaker 9: The Australian across the weekend.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely be tuning in. I mean, what a brilliant paper.
Speaker 1: Some of the stories that you've been involved in, the
Speaker 1: Headley Thomas investigations that have made headlines around the world.
Speaker 1: Absolutely brilliant paper. Sophie Elsworth, James Bolt, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining me. That's all the time we have
Speaker 1: for tonight, but up next is Lefti's losing it.