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Speaker 2: At twelve third Fossie porn star Charlie Ford has an emergency.

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Speaker 3: It's just we're having a makeup and hair drama. So

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Speaker 3: Lily needs to pick up her extensions and she didn't

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Speaker 3: have enough time to get them before, so we're having

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Speaker 3: to swap times.

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Speaker 2: So instead of she's rushing around the living room of

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Speaker 2: her friend's townhouse in a suburban Las Vegas estate, tossing

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Speaker 2: accessories in a handbag and searching for her car keys

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Speaker 2: among an explosion of clothing, her appointment with a hairstylist

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Speaker 2: has been bumped forward. The countdown is on for the

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Speaker 2: Oscars of Porn. The week long X Rated convention is

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Speaker 2: winding up and the awards are just a few hours away.

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing really pretty, handmade, very bull gowny. Actually it

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Speaker 3: looks like flower pedals. Basically clean, very sparkly and not

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Speaker 3: very revealing. I cover up a little bit for rewards

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Speaker 3: because I like to. But I don't know, like my

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Speaker 3: fashion sense is not super risky or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of porn girls actually aren't designer

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Speaker 3: girlies as well, because we have to buy so much

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Speaker 3: stuff for work that if we're buying designer. Then we

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Speaker 3: can't keep up our wardrobes because the girls often will

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Speaker 3: be providing the wardrobe for companies. It's not usually styled

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Speaker 3: by someone. There are only a couple of companies that

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Speaker 3: provide styling. And I also don't pay attention to price tags,

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Speaker 3: and like, I don't hold in my head what my

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Speaker 3: clothes are worth because other things in my life are

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Speaker 3: worth so much more than my clothing. Yeah, by the

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Speaker 3: time you get to this last day, everyone's got the

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Speaker 3: bags coming out, and everyone looks like they need a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, she's nominated in an impressive list of categories tonight,

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Speaker 2: including Best International Group Scene and Best Double Penetration. But

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Speaker 2: there's one particular gong she has her eye on Best

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Speaker 2: gang Bang.

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Speaker 4: There were five or six guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, sorry, no, there were eight guys, two girls,

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Speaker 3: eight guys, and it was a lot of fun. It

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Speaker 3: was very intense, so my Buttole deserves to win that one,

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Speaker 3: for sure. I really hope that I get that one.

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Speaker 2: What's the difference between a gang bang like that and

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Speaker 2: then like a world record challenge like the one we've

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Speaker 2: seen Bonnie do in the last week.

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Speaker 3: What Bonnie Blue did, and the people who were doing

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Speaker 3: the like thousand people. It's usually one guy after another.

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Speaker 3: It's like a train versus a gang bang, as everyone

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Speaker 3: in the room at the same time interacting. I think

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Speaker 3: there are differences, but I don't think that it makes

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Speaker 3: one more exciting or less exciting than another. It's still

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Speaker 3: an insane amount of people, you know.

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Speaker 2: Together, there's an even bigger difference. The average everyday person

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Speaker 2: has never heard about Charlie Ford's gang bang, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of them have read about Bonnie's in the news headlines.

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Speaker 2: Charlie checks the time on her phone. She's running late.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I need to bring anything. I'm just thinking.

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Speaker 5: I think she has everything from my hairmaker.

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Speaker 2: She finally locates her car keys and says goodbye to

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Speaker 2: her two beagles named Lola and Tammy. Yeah, my little

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Speaker 2: girl who was staring up at her from the pullout.

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Speaker 3: So for bed, good girl, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 1: I'll come back.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait for today to be over. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we go.

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Speaker 2: Describe how you're feeling at the end of this week.

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Speaker 5: I'm just sleepy, like grateful, happy.

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Speaker 2: Charlie may be sleepy and happy, But me, I'm bracing

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Speaker 2: for impact. I've spent the past week at the center

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Speaker 2: of an industry that's at war with itself. Tonight the

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Speaker 2: two sides will collide. I'm still waiting to hear back

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Speaker 2: from Bonnie's team about what time I can go to

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Speaker 3: I've been nominated every year ever since I started working

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens tonight.

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Speaker 3: I think it will come eventually. I mean, I must

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Speaker 3: way I look at these awards as well. Porn is

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Speaker 3: a type of art, and art is subjective, and so

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Speaker 3: I never get upset or feel weird about other people

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Speaker 3: we're not creating oscars, but we still put a lot

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Speaker 2: Do you feel pressure to get media attention or stay

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Speaker 3: I think everyone has very different marketing tactics, and I

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Speaker 2: Charlie loves porn, but it's not her whole world. This

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Speaker 2: life that stop her competing in what has become a

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Speaker 3: For me, there's a fine line because I am a

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Speaker 3: I have to toe the line a little bit more

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Speaker 3: than a lot of content creators. Where other people can

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Speaker 3: be a lot more salacious, I have to strip back

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Speaker 2: Over the last few days, when I've interviewed Charlie, she

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Speaker 2: has been hesitant to talk about the rise of rebel

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Speaker 2: amateur creators Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips. She doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to speak disparagingly about other women in the business, but

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Speaker 2: it's clear she's agitated by it and she has fraught

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Speaker 2: feelings that are at odds with what's playing out in

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Speaker 2: her rav four, those unfiltered thoughts spill out.

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Speaker 3: My personal opinion when I look at porn and content creation.

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Speaker 3: That we're going to go on and sell to anyone,

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Speaker 3: that other person should either be paid for being in

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Speaker 6: The biggest problem I have with a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of the people who are doing these large gang

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Speaker 5: And when you're twenty five or thirty year.

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Speaker 3: But you're not, then that's fine, that's your decision that

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Speaker 3: that you should be getting paid or you should be

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Speaker 3: Like if you look at, for example, a young girl

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Speaker 3: that will you know, we profit off young girls having

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Speaker 3: and it's not contributing to the rest of their life

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Speaker 3: I think that we're in this era where I think

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Speaker 3: And I think we in the industry have a responsibility

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Speaker 3: don't have a problem with filming with young people. I

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Speaker 3: don't have a problem with huge gang bangs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I love doing scenes with lots and lots of people.

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Speaker 3: And I think although no one's doing anything illegal, it's

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Speaker 5: At the moment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: porn sector. There's nothing wrong with selling something that's sealacious.

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Speaker 2: Charlie swerves into a car park below the casino the

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get media attention whatever way you feel comfortable.

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Speaker 3: And I just wouldn't be able to cope emotionally with

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Speaker 5: I would really struggle with it. I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: She frantically reaches over to the floor below the passenger

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Speaker 2: biscuits that she baked for a sexy yet relatable only

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Speaker 4: Oh that doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: On the planet a.

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Speaker 1: Computys.

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Speaker 2: It's the last day of the porn Convention and there's

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Speaker 2: from the casino hallways and struck back behind the glass

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Speaker 2: of the computer screen, lining up to meet today's porn

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Speaker 2: stars is a middle aged man with a T shirt

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Speaker 2: At one booth in the center of the room is

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Speaker 2: Lily Phillips, the tabloid rival of Bonnie Blue. Lily is

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Speaker 2: smiling and chatting to her followers, who have formed a

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Speaker 2: the queue is a sweaty guy wearing a crude slogan

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Speaker 7: She's cute, She's got that like girl next door vibe.

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Speaker 2: That's Christy Raya, a twenty seven year old fraud specialist

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Speaker 2: who has traveled from New York City to the expo

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Speaker 2: with her boyfriend. At first, I make the mistake of

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Speaker 2: assuming he dragged her here, and I'm promptly corrected.

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Speaker 7: I'm the Lily.

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Speaker 2: You're the Okay, you're the Lily fan. It's very surprising.

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Speaker 2: What did you say to her when you met her?

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Speaker 7: Just that I admired her and that she was really beautiful.

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Speaker 7: We just had like girls talk. Crew second, she complimented

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Speaker 2: I can't help but think Lily's gal pale approach with

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 7: She's a bad bitch shore.

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Speaker 5: I love a blonde.

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Speaker 2: If you read the tabloids, she seems to be in

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Speaker 7: I think they're saying that like Lily's trying.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Lily James.

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Speaker 2: Were from news dot Com got at you in Australia.

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Speaker 2: I will say, I'm just done here doing a podcast

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Speaker 2: be cool with that?

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Speaker 8: I own over one thousand pounds an hour. I'm the

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Speaker 2: Her mission to become a household name is in full swing.

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Speaker 2: So you'd think every man inside this building, a potent

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Speaker 2: do you know who Bonnie Blue is?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure who that is. I'm sorry, Hey, do

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Speaker 9: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Bonnie Blue? No, I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 2: That's Jay Rodriguez. He's rolling past the commotion on a

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Speaker 2: I have a BBC. It stands for Big Black. You

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Speaker 2: get the picture. You've got Lily Phillips here, who did

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Speaker 9: I'm not. Actually, I've never actually seen her before in

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Speaker 2: And that's because for j his taste is a touch

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Speaker 9: Ah jeeus. Okay, So I'm a footman. It's very simple.

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Speaker 11: Is a girl's got great looking feet, pretty feet, and

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Speaker 11: An oily sole of a foot, something very magical about that.

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Speaker 2: The annual porn convention has become somewhat of a mecca

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Speaker 2: for Jay. It's the third consecutive year this fifty year

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Speaker 2: old has made the pilgrimage from London, where he works

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Speaker 9: Apart from pretty feet? You mean.

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Speaker 11: I'd rather see a boy girl than girl goal, you know,

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when you saw your first foot?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I do. I do.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the first foot you saw.

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Speaker 9: You really want to know? I do.

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Speaker 11: I was at a wedding. I was twelve at a wedding.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I had marbles. I was twelve.

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Speaker 2: So with a lot of the girls that you've met

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Speaker 11: In British pounds one hundred and twenty pounds whatever that

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Speaker 2: That's about two hundred and fifty Ozzie dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Jay now enforces as strict budget on his porn consumption

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Speaker 11: It got a bit out of hand when there was

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Speaker 9: I got out of hand.

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Speaker 2: At its peak. How much were you spending in a week.

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Speaker 9: At is worse? Yeah, three hundred pounds a week.

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Speaker 2: That's about six hundred Aussie dollars per week, or two

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Speaker 2: What led you to have the wake up called where

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Speaker 11: I was starting to put aside other financial obligations and

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Speaker 9: What I saw as more important at the time.

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Speaker 2: And do you have a partner, Jakes?

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Speaker 9: A partner? Yeah, not at a moment.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 11: I don't really like the dating scene. I mean, if

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean. Yeah, dating scene is not

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Speaker 2: When you were spending about three hundred pounds a week

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Speaker 9: All day? All day? Like literally all day, you know?

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Speaker 11: I mean I was just watching it and reviewing it

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Speaker 2: While I wait Lily to finish her shift at the

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Speaker 9: I like just started kind of blowing up.

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Speaker 2: You're blowing up, And what kind of content would you

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Speaker 8: Done, Yeah, that would be called Yeah, like a boy

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Speaker 12: Just something like that will go viral that she relate.

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Speaker 2: While Bonnie hasn't taken him up on his offer, he's

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Speaker 12: I've kind of solidified my name and it's time to

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Speaker 2: He's with a buddy named Carlos Dickinson, and the boys

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Speaker 12: Well, we've already shot boy boy Girl, so I've shot

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Speaker 12: And I think the next step not only in our career,

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Speaker 10: It's because I've been doing this for like four years now,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's just like a slippery slope to do

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Speaker 12: Next step for her pretty much, yeah.

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Speaker 10: Because I've never done an anal scene, and obviously there's

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think people will like that.

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Speaker 10: Of course we're trying to navigate because like it's going

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Speaker 2: The Oscars of Hoorn is just a few hours away,

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Speaker 2: and in a hotel room high above the city, Lily

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Speaker 2: collected by the personal assistant of Lily Phillips, James.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jade, Jade, And you're the assistant.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: During the elevator ride up to Lily's room, I try

443
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Speaker 2: to fill the silence with polite small talk four hours each.

444
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Speaker 8: I just.

445
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: Jade, the personal assistant bats away my attempts and dodgers

446
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: even the most innocuous questions. Unlike Bonnie's team, the staff

447
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 2: employed by Lily don't seem to want to be in

448
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: the spotlight themselves. Are you going?

449
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 9: I'm recording?

450
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: By the way, is that okay?

451
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 5: Sorry?

452
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 4: Take a seat, make yourself so. It's a bit messy

453
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 4: in her We've just been living out suitcases.

454
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 2: The room is piled high with stuff. Every surface is

455
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: covered by clothing and accessories and colorful plastic junk food wrappers.

456
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Welcome to the life of a twenty three year old

457
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: with a passport and cash to burn. She notices me

458
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: glancing around, and she starts poking fun at herself.

459
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 4: She has so much shit on the floor, disgusting, thirty

460
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: foods last days.

461
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: Swaddled in a white bathrobe. She's sitting in a chair

462
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: at the center of the room, next to her unmade

463
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: bed as a stylist fiddles with her long blonde hair.

464
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I've just had an everything shower, shaved every

465
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Speaker 4: inch of my body, scrum my face, still my hat,

466
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: and then I've got my lovely hairstyless hair, just making

467
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 4: me look beautiful for the night.

468
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: I think she looks beautiful with her hair.

469
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 6: So we're going to do like an old Hollywood clown

470
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 6: waves since it's in a warshow.

471
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: Feeling very nervous, eating a shake shark and that, but

472
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: swums up the evening. My nominated four five independent female creator.

473
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: And who are you up against?

474
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: Some great girls? Honestly, like I wouldn't would not be

475
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: surprised if they were, because they're insane.

476
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: One of the ladies. She's competing within the category Bonnie Blue.

477
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: They've both been on a similar trajectory in recent months.

478
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: Lily has made a name for herself as an amateur

479
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: only fans performer, causing a stir and generating news headlines

480
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: with sex stunts, like her recent endeavor to sleep with

481
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: one hundred men in a single day. It has been

482
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: a wild four years. She has gone from being a

483
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: university student with a side hustle as a social media

484
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: influencer and transformed into a well, I'll just let her

485
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: explain it.

486
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: The girl next door will act like a massive phoor

487
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: Sorry that right.

488
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: According to her, she kind of just fell into it.

489
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: I use my real name, So yeah, what.

490
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: Inspired you to use your real name? Is that just

491
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: by accident? You know what?

492
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: I already had built up a slight following on Instagram

493
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: before I even started, and so I kind of thought

494
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: best that was just to go in with my real

495
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: name because people already knew of me. That makes sense.

496
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 4: I believe I had sixteen k on Instagram before I started.

497
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: And what kind of content were you doing?

498
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

499
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: Just like very cute see girly photos. I was doing

500
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 4: a lot of outfits of the day. I would buy

501
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: outfits from online and then take photos in them and

502
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: then send them back and get the money back for them.

503
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: In recent months, she has also started filming professional studio scenes.

504
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: Obviously, everyone charge is different. I charge right now about

505
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: twenty five hundred for a boy Girl, and then about

506
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: a year ago I was like, fuck it, you know,

507
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do what I want to make the content

508
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: that I want to and that's kind of when I

509
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: got into more the extreme stuff.

510
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: And what is some of that extreme stuff.

511
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: Just like a boy girl, gang bangs, bukhaki as anything.

512
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: Really I do.

513
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: All things just got twos went quite like viral, and

514
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: it's just been insane. Lots of people wanted to talk

515
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: to me and talked about like stunts. I'm doing things

516
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: like that, which is awesome.

517
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: I feel like you're a headline magnet. You're always in

518
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: the headline, and since you've landed here in Vegas just

519
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: a few days ago, you only need to google your name,

520
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips. I'm going to read a few of them.

521
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips faces US deportation threat over planned to sleep

522
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: with one thousand men in a day on US Weekly.

523
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips says Airbnb banned her after sex stunt on Newsweek.

524
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips stopped at US border after having sex with

525
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: one hundred and one men in a day. E Online,

526
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips reveals how much money she makes after having

527
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: sex with one hundred men, and it just goes on.

528
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: How important are the headlines to your business model?

529
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I do have a PR team, but other

530
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: than that, now, I think because I built my brand,

531
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: the headlines just kind of come without me even like

532
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: prompting them.

533
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: How involved is the PR team and what's the strategy

534
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: behind Lily Phillips Incorporated?

535
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: He just tries to get me like as much press

536
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: as possible.

537
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Do you believe in that old adage there's no such

538
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: thing as bad publicity. I do, and I don't.

539
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: No, I guess all PUBLICI has got publicity. But then again,

540
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: I guess you don't always want to be perceived as

541
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: like a horrid person.

542
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: Going back to one of those headlines that I just

543
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: read out is Lily Phillips facing US deportation after threatening

544
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: to sleep with a thousand men.

545
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: They did stop me at the border, but and they said,

546
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: if you foc a thousand men while you're hair as

547
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: in a day, then yes you will face like they

548
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: will bun you.

549
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: But tell me more about that conversation at the border.

550
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: What happened?

551
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: So they took me into a room and was basically

552
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: just asking about my job and what I'm here to do,

553
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: and making sure that you know I'm not working while

554
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm here or anything like that, and just trying to

555
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: make sure, yeah that because I'm on an ASTA, not

556
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: working visa, So just trying to make sure that I'm

557
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: here for the right reasons.

558
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: This interference by the US government has thrown a spanner

559
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: in the works. Lily says she had big plans to

560
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: film content here in Las Vegas and one up her

561
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: previous record of sleeping with one hundred men in a

562
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: single day.

563
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: I wanted to sleep with eight thousand men in twenty

564
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: four hours. So I was planning to do it here

565
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: while the avn's wrong because I didn't actually realize it

566
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: was work, because I thought you were allowed to sleep

567
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: with guys like it's it's not work at.

568
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: The end of day.

569
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, I plans to do it while the avn's

570
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: a wrong because there'd be a lot of porn funds

571
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: in the area. But obviously since we faced that, I

572
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 4: was like going to shut it down. I'm not going

573
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: to do it here.

574
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: So the quest for a thousand guys continues. Yes, would

575
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: you call them sex stunts? Yeah, Yeah, tell me about

576
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: the sex stunts and the concept behind that.

577
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I kind of thought that my palm was

578
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: maybe getting a little bit boring and very much like

579
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: everyone else says, and I want to make it really

580
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: unique and for me. I also want to do it

581
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: with funds because obviously there aren't many girls that they

582
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: can subscribe to and also fuck at the same time,

583
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: So I thought it would be great content. So yeah,

584
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: that's kind of when I decided to start doing these,

585
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: like crazy numbers.

586
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: A lot of the headlines when you google your name,

587
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: it seems like there's a what people in the industry

588
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: are calling beef between your name and Bonnie Blue. Can

589
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: you give me a rundown of what's actually going on there?

590
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: I don't have any beef with her?

591
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: Is that part of the PR strategy?

592
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely not.

593
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm a lover, not a hater. What other stunts have

594
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: you done?

595
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 9: Oh?

596
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: On TUESDAYD fifty in my back door?

597
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: On Tuesday?

598
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 9: You did that?

599
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: And what here in Las Vegas? Yeah, Lily seems to

600
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: forget that. Just a few moments ago, she told me

601
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: about how she was dramatically stopped at the US border

602
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: and warned that she was under no circumstances allowed to

603
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: film sex tapes on American soil that she could later sell.

604
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: After all, that would be breaching her visa. She suddenly

605
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: realizes the error, wincing her face before backtracking.

606
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: No, I did it in London.

607
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, but did you really do it in London? I did?

608
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah.

609
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: I decide not to press Lily on this contradiction. Whether

610
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: she filmed those fifty men in London or Vegas, it

611
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter anymore. It seems she can't keep her

612
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: own story straight. The performance has become the reality, and

613
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: the thing is she's not alone. I leave Lily in

614
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: the hotel room and give her some time to get

615
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: her recollections in order before the big night.

616
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Take a too a Concertys concession.

617
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: It's the night of nights and all the sirens from

618
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: your internet screen are here to dazzle on the red

619
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: carpet at the oscars of Porn. Plucky fans are lined

620
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: up to catch a glimpse of their favorite starlets. Most

621
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: of them are middle aged men, and a lot of

622
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: them do have cameras on selfie sticks poking up above

623
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: the crowds. It's all to ensure they get adequate footage

624
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: of their favorite porn star that they'll no doubt be

625
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: reviewing later. Again and again and again, performers begin arriving,

626
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: posing for cameras and waving at fans. Just like the

627
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: Academy Awards, the Oscars of Porn is a prestigious affair

628
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: of influence and excellence.

629
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Speaker 3: Been at the Porn Awards tonight makes me feel like

630
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: a Jonty Sunny mother.

631
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Haha. That's Piper Press, the milk performer who declined the

632
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: offer to film content earlier this week with Ozzie Milf

633
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Molly Manning, and you're famous for what kind of porn popcast?

634
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: Jardy might be? Raw play? How does tonight make you feel?

635
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: Walking the red carpet like.

636
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: A filthy mother? Thanks for your borners, fanboys.

637
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Then she gets distracted and stumbles away. Lily Phillips breezes

638
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: by with her old Hollywood hair and black satin dress,

639
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: the Angenoux who hasn't yet been shoved into milkhood. And

640
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: there's Charlie Ford floating past in her flower pedal gown.

641
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: She doesn't bask in the spotlight. Instead, she quietly smolders,

642
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: arching her back and glancing over her shoulder to look

643
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: at the cameras. She then disappears into the theater, ready

644
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: to find out if her butthole wins Best Gang Bang.

645
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: As hundreds of porn stars flood the red carpet in

646
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: elaborate and sexy costumes. I'm studying everyone who shuffles by,

647
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: hoping to see Bonnie Blue as she triumphantly debuts her

648
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars one of a kind Louis Vuton dress.

649
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 2: But over the two hours of Fans Fair, she never

650
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: appears amongst all the middle aged fanboys who line the barricades.

651
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: A petite woman in her sixties with a short gray haircut,

652
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: she is for every single performer like a mom at

653
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: a school athletics carnival.

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00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 13: I'm a mother and my son dates Jules Blue, who

655
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 13: is in the industry, and she's a porn star.

656
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: She does cosplay, she does all kinds of things.

657
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 13: She even comes over for Christmas and cooks us Christmas dinner.

658
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: Her name is Charisma Holquin and she has traveled from

659
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Arizona with her husband to be an unofficial cheerleader.

660
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 13: I just heard that nobody's really supporting these people in

661
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 13: the industry, and so many people have family members that

662
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 13: have turned them away because of the business they're in,

663
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 13: and it's like, you know, it is a business, and

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Speaker 13: a lot of these people are creative and wonderful people

665
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 13: and great personalities.

666
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: Suddenly the energy in the room shifts and a sense

667
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: of mania vibrates through the crowd. Heads turned cameras shoot

668
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: up high above the crush of people. Taking Senna stage

669
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: on the red carpet. Is the woman they've all been

670
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: waiting for, as Ansela wait the thunder from down Under.

671
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: She's wearing her trademark style, an all black gown that

672
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: teases a satisfying hint of curves. She flicks her long

673
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: dark hair over a shoulder and flashes a smile. Her

674
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: hand gracefully glides through the air as she waves at

675
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: her adoring fans, almost in slow motion.

676
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 9: They're not going to write's Angelo way. She's a simple thought.

677
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 9: You notice. They're not telling how to hurry up? Pretty

678
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 9: word to me. Maybe I'm rusting everybody, but there's like

679
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 9: she just take a whole sweet time. They don't mess

680
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 9: with ambulance.

681
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: Waiting Angela's arrival almost seems like the natural climax of

682
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: the evening. After she levitates into the theater. Her seductive

683
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: presence lingers outside like a sweet perfume. The crowd begins

684
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: to thin out, the casino staff begin ripping up the

685
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: red carpet, But what about Bonnie? More time passes and

686
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: there's still no sight. Then, just when it seems like

687
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: she's a no show, there's a chaotic flurry in the distance.

688
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: A group of people are shoving their way across the

689
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: casino floor through the maze of slot machines, led by

690
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: her publicist, Emma. Bonnie rushes closer to the door of

691
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: the theater and finds a section of the red carpet

692
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: that hasn't yet been torn up.

693
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 9: Why are we running.

694
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: Lane well, fashly, Willy Lee.

695
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: Obviously, Bonnie's walking the red carpet with Josh Holly's standing

696
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: back holding the bag, and he's wearing a Gucci blazer.

697
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: Bonnie is finally getting a chance to show off the.

698
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 9: Louis Vuitton.

699
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 2: One of a kind dress, and Summer is diligently walking

700
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: behind her. Hey, Summer, why are you guys late? Emma,

701
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: the publicist jumps in to shut down the questions. You

702
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to learne off, which is bare as her

703
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: pr manager, What did you think of her missing the

704
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: red carpet?

705
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 9: She hasn't missed her. She's on her right now, but.

706
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: They're peeling it up behind her. She's got time. This scrappy,

707
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: frenzied scene doesn't quite seem to be what Bonnie had

708
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: in mind when she was proudly showing me her black,

709
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: sheer netted gown last night. As we stood in her closet.

710
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: The one hundred and forty five thousand dollar diamond necklace

711
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: barely gets a minute to glimmer under the lights. With

712
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: the award show set to start in minutes, Bonnie poses

713
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: for a camera and then scrambles inside, ready to bask

714
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: in her glory. Amona. Inside the theater, the ceremony unfolds

715
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: over three hours. Angela White dominates as expected, the establishment queen,

716
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: collecting six trophies, including favorite Female porn Star, her magnum

717
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: opus Fuck Angela. The love letter to y Too k

718
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: Porn is celebrated. Charlie Ford's butthole is sadly not honored. Meanwhile,

719
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm stuck outside with the groupies, waiting to see if

720
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Bonnie's gamble paid off. One of these blokes is Jake Martin,

721
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: the forty year old Canadian, has been coming to the

722
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: awards for the past decade. He's on a stakeout, lurking

723
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: by the exit, waiting for his favorite porn star, Rita

724
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: Daniels to finally saunter.

725
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: Out, Oh no, where.

726
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 9: We're just gonna becoming In letters, we've become friends.

727
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm mostly contacted through social media as I stand among

728
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: the slot machines and wait for Bonnie to emerge. I'm

729
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: approached with a particular request that, given the circumstances of

730
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: tonight's event, shouldn't come as a surprise. Brodie had a condom. No,

731
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't have a condom. Are you asking for a condom?

732
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 9: Yes? I got some in a parking lot. I'm trying

733
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 9: to go handle it. If you don't have one, that's

734
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 9: your fun. Everybody should have one. I just ran out.

735
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 9: Don't do that.

736
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: Who's in the car park? Yeah?

737
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 9: I don't do that. You know, you know what the

738
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 9: porns are. Don't do that. You know I've got a

739
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 9: porn star the week.

740
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: Which porn star is it?

741
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 9: Don't do that. We won't be that nasty show. You

742
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 9: won't do that.

743
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: What are you going to do in the car park.

744
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 9: Get kicked out eighty six eighty six?

745
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: Me, No, what is getting eighty six to me?

746
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: You keeck out the.

747
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 9: Property for we're doing some wrong. We don't, don't, don't.

748
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 9: We're gonna fluster your kind, that's what we're.

749
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: Gonna Do's getting eighty six? They have anything to do

750
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: with getting sixty nine?

751
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 9: No, but she will get that. And well she's gonna

752
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 9: get sixty nine the eighty six.

753
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: And these parking lot sixty nine ers aren't the only

754
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: ones getting eighty six. It seems the porn industry has

755
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: rejected the rebel creator who has spent the past twelve

756
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: months antagonizing it. The doors to the theater swing open.

757
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: It's nearing midnight and Bonnie finally emerges from the pawn Awards.

758
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: She's looking glum, her arms are crossed. The team's lacking energy.

759
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: It seems she didn't snatch the trophy that she came

760
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: here to win. Hi, oh, Hi, you seem disappointed to see.

761
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 14: Me, Always disappointed to see you?

762
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Why what happened?

763
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 9: Inside?

764
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: Emma takes the lead while Summer, Ollie, and Josh surround Bonnie,

765
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: who's avoiding eye contact. They blocked me from talking to her,

766
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: not much.

767
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 5: Not much?

768
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you I'll take the question. Okay, did Bonnie

769
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: take on the trophy?

770
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 9: No?

771
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: You seem disappointed.

772
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 14: Of course, we're disappointed.

773
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: The gong went to a British performer called Mama Plugs,

774
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: whose tales of struggling as a teen mom and getting

775
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: Brazilian butt lift surgery keep her in the tabloids. Apparently,

776
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: inside the theater there was an upset and Team Bonnie

777
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: claims to have been blindsided, alleging the Awards commit scrubbed

778
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Bonnie's name from the nominations.

779
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 14: So she was nominated as Best in the Creator and

780
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 14: her name didn't come up on screen.

781
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: Emma and the team already have some conspiracy theories. They

782
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: believe the awards committee is punishing Bonnie for ditching her

783
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: duties and not fulfilling her slot at the expo booth

784
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: where she was supposed to meet and greet fans during

785
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: the week.

786
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 14: So my theory is she had an obligation to fill

787
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 14: which means that she needs to show up and sign

788
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 14: it a booth for two hours. She was sick and

789
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 14: she couldn't show up, But.

790
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: To not be.

791
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 14: Shown on screen to me was came as a surprise

792
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 14: and that's yeah, it is what it is.

793
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Bonnie arrived late for her own coronation, only to find

794
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: her throne already occupied. How did Bonnie feel when she

795
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: didn't see her name on screen?

796
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 14: I think she understands, you know what these sort of

797
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 14: awards are for.

798
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: From your team's perspective, what are these awards for?

799
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 14: It's a lot of ego, and like, I'm not gonna lie.

800
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 14: We want a part of it because it's a bit

801
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 14: of fun. But you know, that's all it is. There's

802
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 14: not much more to it.

803
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: Emma leads the troop to an exit. Bonnie is shielded

804
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: by her little sister Summer, her videographer Josh, and her

805
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: manager and secret husband Ollie. They narrowly avoid bumping into

806
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips, who's in much better spirits. Lily, Oh hey,

807
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: good to see her. The awards going good?

808
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: God, it went wow.

809
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't win, but there was some amazing nominations,

810
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: so no wonder I didn't win.

811
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: There was apparently a little bit of confusion inside the

812
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: awards ceremony because Bonnie thought she was nominated, but her

813
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: name wasn't shown on screen. Lily gives her team a

814
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: nervous glance. Oh really, I'm not sure, and then she's

815
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: pulled away by a member of her entourage.

816
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 9: I haven't seen it.

817
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much.

818
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 9: I appreciate it. Thanks.

819
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: Across the parking lot, Bonnie's entourage is desperate to end

820
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: the night. Bonnie's team rushes her to awaiting suv that

821
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: will take her away to her luxury villa. Last night,

822
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: inside the concrete walls of her mansion, Bonnie bragged about

823
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: being the main character. But tonight, the industry has shuffled

824
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: her into the background, and in the brutal Nevada desert,

825
00:45:36,840 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: blue fades to black. By sunrise, the red carpet is gone,

826
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: the porn stars have scattered back to their corners of

827
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: the Internet, and the casino floor returns to its regular

828
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: programming of retirees feeding coins into slot machines. This was

829
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: supposed to be Bonnie's victory lap, the week where she

830
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: proved to the industry and the world that she is

831
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: the biggest porn star on the planet. Instead, it became

832
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: the week everything started to unravel. Bonnie didn't win, but

833
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: she did get revenge, well, sort of.

834
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 6: A disease is being transmitted at the porn convention which

835
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: shouldn't come as a surprise, but it's not the kind

836
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 6: of infection that you would anticipate at such an event.

837
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: Everyone has been wiped out with a severe blu, and

838
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: I know myself I can trace it back to one

839
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 6: Miss Bonny Blue, from when I spent intimate moments up

840
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 6: close and personal with her in her bed while I

841
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 6: interviewed her for this series. Every day new people are

842
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: falling down, porn stars, porn producers, born directors. I've had

843
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 6: people rescheduling on me over the last forty eight hours.

844
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 6: No one seems to be able to get out of bed.

845
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: All I really know is many many pathology tests will

846
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 6: need to be swabbed at the end of this ordeal.

847
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: In the days that followed, more people fell sick. It

848
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: was impossible to get any more interviews. But one warning

849
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: kept echoing.

850
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 15: There's plenty of girls who are flashes in the pan

851
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 15: of girls who are here today, gone tomorrow. That's just

852
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 15: kind of the nature of the beast I think happens

853
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 15: all the time.

854
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: And the questions kept coming.

855
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 15: I've heard various things about whether anybody's actually seen these

856
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 15: videos that they say they've made. It also seems far fetched.

857
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 15: This thousand man. Whatever you know. I don't even know

858
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 15: where you find a thousand guys to come and random

859
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 15: we have sex with.

860
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: You, and Team Bonnie stuck to its narrative. Her team

861
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: seemed to think that because she skipped out on a

862
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: few of her av and appearances leading up to the awards,

863
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: that she was scrubbed from the nominations.

864
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 9: Right.

865
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 15: I got word of this that would have nothing to

866
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 15: do with it, and we couldn't change it that quickly

867
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 15: anyway if we wanted to.

868
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: Peter Warren is the editor of adult video news magazine

869
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: The Porn Industry Bible, that runs the awards. He says

870
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: he's familiar with Bonnie Blue's conspiracy theories following her loss

871
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: at the Oscars of Porn, and while her complaints might

872
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: work at Louis Vaton, they don't work here. He says,

873
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: Bonnie may have made the long list of nominations, but

874
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: she didn't get enough fan votes to make the short list.

875
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 15: They thought she was left out for some reason or whatever.

876
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 15: But it's just it was the top ten vote getters

877
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 15: who were displayed on screen. We can't display all sixty

878
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 15: of them, so you know, it's just the luck of

879
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 15: the draw.

880
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: And so you're saying that Bonnie's name was absolutely not scrubbed.

881
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 15: It definitely was not scrubbed. It's not media coverage is

882
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Speaker 15: the answer to how you win, you know.

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Speaker 9: I believe that.

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Speaker 15: It's who the fans like the most, who they voted for.

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Speaker 2: And Bonnie and Lily, have you consumed their work?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: No, why not?

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Speaker 15: It's a little strange to me. I don't quite get it,

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Speaker 15: you know. I don't know that I can put my

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Speaker 15: finger on why. It's just I just haven't really gotten

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Speaker 15: into it.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Bonnie has remained in the headlines since this podcast

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Speaker 2: was recorded. She caused outrage by announcing a petting zoo

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00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: sex stunt that involved her being tied up in a

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Speaker 2: glass box for two thousand men. It never eventuated. Updates

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Speaker 2: about her divorce from husband and manager Ollie Davidson continued

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Speaker 2: to be drip fed to tabloids. It's understood they're still

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Speaker 2: legally married. She also started a pregnancy rumor, So.

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Speaker 8: Tom, I'm going to take another pregnancy task because.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to know how far along it turned

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Speaker 2: out to be false. I can't help but think back

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Speaker 2: to a moment during our interview when we were in

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Speaker 2: bed together.

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Speaker 9: Have you of a.

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Speaker 2: Fibbed about content or fibbed about something to get a headline?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 8: Like my thing I've been so passionate about from day

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Speaker 8: one is saying something truthful and if it's not happened,

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Speaker 8: I've just said, you know what, like no comment, or

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Speaker 8: like no it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: So you've never lied about any of your content?

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 2: A few months after I left Las Vegas, Only Fans

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Speaker 2: made the decision to permanently ban Bonnie Blue. A representative

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Speaker 2: told me her content is no longer allowed on the platform,

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Speaker 2: nor is she an Only Fans creator, and that this

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Speaker 2: should be explicitly stated to our listeners. And what about

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Speaker 2: Bonnie's publicist Emma Gilman with her blueprint for world domination?

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Speaker 2: She has since quit. She says she stopped working with

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Speaker 2: the creator a few months after I met them. It's

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Speaker 2: a sudden change from the optimistic dream Emma was conjuring

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Speaker 2: on the private jet.

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Speaker 1: This is so crazy.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sure.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 9: I was just absorbing it, you know.

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Speaker 14: On the plane, I was just sitting there quietly like,

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Speaker 14: this is fucked up.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you think this is how your life's

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Speaker 2: going to continue? Over the next year.

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Speaker 9: I think it's going to get better and better.

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Speaker 8: I really do.

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Speaker 2: In a text message, Emma tells me Bonnie had different

934
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Speaker 2: goals to what we had planned when we were working together,

935
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Speaker 2: and it involved going down the rage bait route in

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Speaker 2: a way I couldn't represent. I'm a bit worried about

937
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Speaker 2: being tied to her brand in that way, but it

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Speaker 2: seems Emma is not quite done with being part of

939
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Speaker 2: the Bonnie Blue story. Just as this episode was about

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Speaker 2: to drop, she posted a cryptic vhoto to Instagram showing

941
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Speaker 2: her and Ollie embracing. It was set to the Olivia

942
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Dean song called Man I need the caption plot twist,

943
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Speaker 2: complete with a love heart emoji. I immediately reached out

944
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: to her. She told me we're in a relationship where

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Speaker 2: just two people enjoying each other's company. I asked Emma

946
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 2: when exactly they got together, She replied recently. She then

947
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Speaker 2: said she would not be commenting any further. Hey, the

948
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: girl knows how to get a headline. Las Vegas is

949
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Speaker 2: a city that runs on one currency, the gamble. Bonnie

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Speaker 2: Blue waged everything, privacy, authenticity, the life she had before

951
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: the cameras turned on the chips stacked up the headlines

952
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: came a million pounds a month, she claimed, but the

953
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: house always collects twenty percent to the platform. More extreme

954
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: stunts to feed the algorithm, and that jackpot she's chasing.

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Speaker 2: It's always one more hand away. She's still at the table,

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Speaker 2: all in, still doubling down.

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Speaker 8: I own over one thousand pounds an hour. I'm the

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Speaker 8: one with the most fews. I'm the one that goes

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Speaker 8: ring all the time. I am the main character.

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Speaker 1: Take a.

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Speaker 2: Concutys concess, Thanks for listening. You can read more from

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Speaker 2: me on news dot com dot AU and find me

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Speaker 2: on Facebook if you want to let me know your

964
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Speaker 2: thoughts about this series. This show was and hosted by me.

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Speaker 2: My executive producer is Nina Young. Sound design and editing

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Speaker 2: by Tiffany Dinnak. Additional production assistant by phoebe Zakowski Wallace.

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Speaker 2: A big thanks to Carrie Warren, the editor of news

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Speaker 2: dot com dot a U, for her support for the show.