WEBVTT - Merry Gay Christmas to All Who Celebrate 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.120 Today we're recording on Gadigul Country and. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.760 We'd like to pay our respects to the traditional custodians 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.920 of the Gaetgol people. I know you've got to dig this. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.439 It's like I've been given like an extra sprinkle of something. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:17.560 You've got layers. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.800 Yeah, I got layers. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:19.760 I was just thinking. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.720 I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.680 You're making a lot of sense to that girl. No, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:35.520 I'm done. I've been too honest to go this gay Christmas, gays. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.479 All that fuck is more. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.240 It is gay Christmas here in Sydney and the Marti Gras, 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.040 it's in its forty seventh year, has kicked off. It 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.879 always kicks off with fair Day and I was a 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:49.479 part of that day. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:50.839 It was great we have fair Day. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.159 Yeah, I was, yeah, but I didn't see you. I 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.120 did walk past the Mecca. You're with Mecca, right, but 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.960 I think you might have been gone because I looked 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:58.800 in and you weren't there. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.680 Yeah, it was only between two thirty to five. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.440 Did you then walk around and like experience the day? 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.240 No, I was so cooked. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.240 I flew in, got my makeup done like three times 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.720 by Max made and then left. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:13.680 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because I saw Max. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.800 Yeah he was still around, but I didn't have the 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:21.520 right appropriate shoes and plus me wasn't kind of dressed 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.600 to do fair day. She was like, nah, I'm in 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.920 like gym where I'm like and yeah, like whatever, but 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.959 she wasn't feeling it, so we left. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:31.679 But we just had a little little night in. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.280 Yeah. Oh nice, So tell me, Marti Gras. It is 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.280 obviously like an amazing time for our community. It is 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.520 such a pivotal moment when it comes to like the 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.840 history of our community as well. It's definitely built from 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.440 protests and yeah, you know, the seventy eight ers are such. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.040 A I know it is still part of it marching 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.200 to this day. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.000 The legacy, you know, everything that they I know, but 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.520 like sometimes when I look at them, I think, wow, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.960 you must have seen so much change over the years, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.600 you know, positive change, Like the community wasn't always as 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.920 accepted as it is now. But I want to ask you, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.960 what is your like favorite Marti Gras memory. Let's kick 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.880 off with our favorite and then we can talk about 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.360 some of them not so favorite. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.080 Okay, yeah, sos and peaks and pits yep, oh okay, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:21.280 Well I kind of only really watched Marti Garral on 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:26.040 TV maybe in my like mid twenties, oh no, early twenties, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.760 early twenties, and then I went in my mid twenties. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.000 So my first ever Marti Gras was with are You Okay? 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.240 And that was post Batchelor and so that was like 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.320 twenty nineteen. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:39.080 I went. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.280 I was actually in a heteronormative relationship. I was with 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:49.040 Nick two point zero and I went with are You 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.080 Okay to March and I was meant to be on 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.400 the float, but I ended up doing an interview with 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.160 Courtney Act. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.120 So I was like running to this like the. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.840 Little TV setup where they and I'd say, honestly, one 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.200 of my favorite moments to this day was meeting Samantha 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.480 Jade in the green room. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.720 And she knew who I was. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.920 Okay, and her mum was a fan, Oh wow, And 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.600 I was like, oh, my god from. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.560 Perth in there from Perth, So I was like, this 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:19.120 is awesome. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.720 That was my That was my like, my my biggest 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.679 highlight I think of not and I guess also meeting 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.760 g Filip for the first time. Yeah that was yeah, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:30.520 that was really fun. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.520 I really enjoyed that. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:31.880 Yeah. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.639 Yeah, I feel like Marti Gras. There is like there's 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.760 so many crossovers with people in the community. You know, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.720 you're always running to someone you know, you meet someone 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.680 who you've been looking up to for years. I'm sure 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.040 that would have happened to you many times, like a 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.280 lot of people would have come up to you and 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:44.720 said hello. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.680 Kind of it was so weird that I mean back 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.600 in the day when I was marching and you know, you're. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:50.760 Like, it's such a high. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.240 And I'm sure you've marched a few times in your life, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.080 so you know, people are yelling at from the gates 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.120 and you kind of like run over and give them 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.480 a hug and a kiss, to take a photo and 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.480 then you kind of back and exciting, like it's just 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.840 a nice, really wholesome vibe and it's just so filled 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.000 with so much love. But yeah, what was your pinink 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.240 of Marti Gras? 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.400 Oh? My pink of Marty gra has to be when 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.080 I've been like hosting, because I feel like, even though 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.200 it's work, it's so much fun because you get to 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.440 go and talk to everyone, so it's like you have 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.680 a mic. People want to open up and share their story. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.559 So it's like my first year, I remember running along 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.560 with n TV and I was marching with the Darwin float, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:36.000 so it was the theme was like crocodile, so everything. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.680 Was like big swamp princess, that's me. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:44.600 And so I was like with Benny Gratz miscellaneous marzipan. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.159 And the funniest thing happened. The generator that was on 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.560 the back of the Northern Territory Floats ute actually broke down. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.040 And so just visualize this, so it's broken down. All 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.039 the things that were blown up had like deflated, blated, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.800 and you can see these two drag queens trying to 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:09.159 start this generator like a lord the heels, trying to 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.479 rip it out like this, and it was just such 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.359 a funny thing to see. But that year I was 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.880 like running along and you know, every time I stopped 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.159 to talk to someone, they was so excited to be 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.000 on camera and to share their story and they would 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.080 maybe share a kiss with their partner or say I 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.080 love you mom at home. You know, So like there 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.840 was this like elation that I felt like in that 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.240 moment that I was like, wow, it actually was my 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.200 first ever hosting gig, and it's what made me fall 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.120 in love with sharing people's stories. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.679 Oh my god, I love that. That's like such a. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.080 Moment in your career as well, go down like was 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:46.680 one of your highlights. But then also just that vibe. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.920 You can't recreate that, I know, you know what I. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.239 Mean, not that first time so special, so so special. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.640 But this year the theme is free to be What 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.599 do you think of the theme? To me? 0:05:58.760 --> 0:05:58.960 Fair? 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.040 Do you know I'm might be a bad gay? But 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.560 like I only knew the theme this morning when I 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:04.440 was reading an article. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.320 Yeah, okay, well, I mean, look, you. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.599 Don't hate me. I didn't even know. I honestly have 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.640 just not my books just come out. I've just been 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.480 so focused on that. I've worked. I've just started working 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.320 back with the kids. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:15.640 Yep. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.560 The podcast is obviously starting up again. You know we've 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.239 started season three. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.000 Yeah, season three. Yeah. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.640 So there's a lot happening in my life. But not 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.520 saying that I don't love manigraph, but I just haven't 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.240 really been focused on it total. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.800 That's fine. I mean, not every year has to be 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.480 the year that you put your all into Marti Gras. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.120 This year, I'm actually not even going to be here, 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.880 you know, I'm going to go away. Well, I decided 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.280 that this year I'm going to just go away and 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.200 book and Airbnb and take myself to the coast, you know, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.039 Like I dipped my toe in at the start of 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.320 the festival, which is Fair Day, and not every year 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.400 that we did the parade big. Last year we went 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.200 and we were at the VP viewing area with Destination 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.240 New South Wales were right like right at the top 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.000 of Taylor Square, got the best vantage point. Like we 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.280 really did a big last year and it was amazing. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.640 But the year before and the year before that, you know, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.160 World Pride another massive, massive year for us. So I 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.880 feel like I'm just gonna take a break. I'm not gonna, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.640 you know, do the parade. I was going to commit 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.720 to the first Nation's float this year, but I just 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.840 think at this point I just had to put myself 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.160 first and I think I'm just like in this mode 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.080 of protecting my peace, so I don't want anything that's 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.800 gonna like sort of ruffle the feathers of my routine 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.560 and structure at the moment. So I'm like, very much, yeah, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.000 very much. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:35.880 Yeah. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.840 Keane on just having like a low key weekend with 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.760 my partner, Yeah. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.520 I mean that, you know, you can you can have 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.480 that type of maighty gra as well, like to not 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.600 you know, just on a the fact that you can 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.440 go and it can be really chilled. You can watch it, 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.160 but I'd rather just watch it from my house, like 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.160 the comfortable with my girlfriend. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:55.800 But I'm going to be in Brisbane as well. I'm 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:56.679 actually gonna be away. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.600 I fly into Brisbane Friday, there Saturday, and then home 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.200 that night. So pretty much a big weekend of book stuff, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.120 which is exciting. I mean, my book is you know, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.240 celebrates First Nations culture and queer love. So you know, 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.560 I'm kind of doing my own celebration in a different 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.400 way doing that obviously working, but also celebrating the fact 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.680 that this is the second release of that. You know, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.520 this is my second book. It's a teenage fiction. That's 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.600 the audience that i'd love to be, you know, catering for. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.280 And I mean, you know, as much as I would 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.720 love to be at Mardi Gras, my focus is on 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.360 the kids, you know, so like, yeah, but I've had 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.600 some pretty unusual experiences at Marti Graph. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:39.240 I'm being on it. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.920 It's all been love, love, you know, beautiful celebration, acceptance. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.959 But then I've had some moments that have been some 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.440 quite triggering to be fair with you, I worked with 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.080 a brand, which I will never do again. MARTI grap 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.200 for me, is going to be moving forward? Is I 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.360 think going to be? I want to go because I 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.959 want to be with my people and I want to 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.200 like celebrate and I want to like, Yeah, I just 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.200 think for work one, it's just like it's not. In 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:12.080 my eyes, it's so worth it being there, and it's 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.080 so worth the money as well, if you're being paid, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.040 But I don't think it's worth the things that I've experienced, 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.400 which I was a couple of years ago. My low 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.360 heart Til can vouch for this. Yeah, I'm going to 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.120 drag her into this, but we went with a brand. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.840 But the experiences we had were she got fat shamed. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.440 The first five minutes of us meeting our team. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:35.679 What Yeah. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.160 The one of the ladies who were working for the 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.560 PR company actually turned around and said. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.520 Oh, you're real confident wearing that. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.480 Wow, And she was like, well SMARTI grat like and 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:47.880 she got fat shame. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:48.720 That's disgusting. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:54.040 The second thing was we're one of the sort of 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.200 higher staff members. I think she was like lead of 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.000 a department, won't name names, uh, you know, kind of 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.960 tokenized me like, oh, this is Brooks, she's my indigenous friend. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:08.200 What. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:13.400 Yeah, And Milo was there and I remember looking at 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.439 her being like is this really happening right now in 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:23.480 this moment? Yeah, And you know a bit sus that, 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.439 you know, three of the girls that were meant to 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.360 be looking after us just kept disappearing and coming back 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.920 and disappearing and coming back and you know, not actually 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.600 looking after us. So yeah, not to out them, but 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.840 I feel like, you know, these are experiences that have 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.520 kind of tainted my experience as well, but also like. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.440 You know, in that moment, were you like why. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.960 Are these people being a part of the parade? 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.320 Yeah? I mean did you feel unsafe? 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.120 Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to go. I 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.400 wanted they were meant to be looking after us. I 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:53.920 was meant to do. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.640 I did some interviews with Francisco Horn, went to go 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.800 do an interview. They had my phone and my belongings, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.079 and all of a sudden they disappeared. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:01.520 Wow. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.560 And they're like, oh, We've taken them back to like 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.680 where the base camp is, and I'm like, how am I. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:07.680 Meant to get there? 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.680 That was like a couple of kilometers We walked all here. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.440 It was just it was horrific. That year was horrific, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.280 and I really did taint my experience that But it's 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.440 nothing to do with Sydney Marti gra It's actually to 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.240 do with the company. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:27.160 Yeah, but that's probably my pit, like that that's really shitty. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.640 my crap. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.360 I totally I think that that's like such a disgusting 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.440 experience and the people obviously don't have any like awareness 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.760 of where they are and what they're doing. Like but 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.680 exactly like what the cultural. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.400 College whitewashing, isn't it Like it's called brainwashed, pink washing, pink. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.160 Washing, pink washing. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.960 Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I definitely have a pit for 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.520 Mardi Gras, but it was it's sort of a funny pit. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.480 When I was my first ever Marti Gras, I was 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.840 like nineteen years old and I was going with my 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.920 friend Oliver and we we were at the We didn't 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.160 know what to wear, so it was like one of 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.800 those things where you're young and like you're not really prepared. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.600 You probably didn't have the money to buy an outfit, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.080 so we were like what can we wear? And we 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.200 went into our closet. We were like living together, and 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.520 I was like, oh, what should we wear? And he 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.760 was like, well, I've got a white shirt that has stripes. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.760 You have a white shirt that has stripes and white shorts. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.520 Why don't we be slutty sailors. And I was like, oh, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.679 my god, genius at the age of you know, nineteen, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.920 thinking that was the coolest outfit ever. So we put 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.240 on these white shorts, these stripy white shirts and just 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.920 rolled up the shorts a little bit and rolled up 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.640 the sleeves and caught ourselves slutty sailors, like absolute fucking losers. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.360 And anyway, we get to that, we get to the 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.320 after party, and like we had tickets for the after party, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.520 and we were in line pretty early because we wanted 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:48.040 to get in. And I don't know if you've ever 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:53.720 been like sniffed by a sniffer dog. Like I was 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.840 anxiously like in this line, and the sniffer dog wouldn't 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.880 leave me alone. It was really scary. And so I 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.520 was like with my friends and I was like, what 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.720 the fuck is going on? What the hell is going on? 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.679 But I feel like the people around us had drugs 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.079 because I didn't do drugs, Like I was a good 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.560 boy in my teens and somebody around us obviously had 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.559 drugs and the sniffer dog just wouldn't let me go, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.559 Like it was like, oh did you get in? Well? 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.520 I got in, but I was really scared. Like it 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.120 was such like a terrifying moment for me, as like 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.480 a young, yeah, young quick person first Marty Gras. I 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.760 felt like for some reason, I felt like they were 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.920 they were like really zoning you know me. I might've 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.240 been paranoid, but I just remember feeling so scared and 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.160 nervous that like it sort of ruined my start of 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.400 my Marti Gras. But other than that, I have fucking 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.960 great Marty Grass minograph for me has been awesome. I 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.880 met my first boyfriend at Marti Gras who I was 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.800 with for six years, and the last year taking my 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.200 boyfriend's best friend who came from Columbia to Marti Gras 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.080 and doing the whole VP experience that was also epic. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.120 So I feel like I've done Marti Gras really well 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.160 over the years, but this year's gonna give me pass. Well. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.880 I was going to ask you what you are looking 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.959 forward to, but if you were going yeah, if we 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.920 were going one, yeah, what would be our outfits be? 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.840 I know what mine would be because I already workshopped 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.320 this with the first Nations float, so I sort of 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.720 agreed to go. I actually did. I was like, you know, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.800 I would love to be a part of it. And 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.920 then I sort of just once I got back into 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:25.840 my own space and in my own head, and I 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.280 was like, that's probably not the best. This year. I 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.760 was going to wear like a dazzled black lap plap. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.120 Oh okay, beautiful. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.200 Everything was black and black explained. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.600 To what people. People won't know what a lap black is. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.359 Yeah, So basically the First Nations float theme this year 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.280 was black Royalty, and so Linda Bernie is like Compton 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.920 Baker myself. I think even you were asked. There were 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.520 a few people that were asked to be the six 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.200 sort of the community, I know, very cool, honest, and 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.640 so I was like thinking what I wear, and I 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.960 really felt like, okay, So I really wanted to have 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.600 that intersection of you know, my my sexuality and my 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.720 idolity and my culture, and so I was like a 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.560 lap lap but it was like gland. And then there's 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.960 also this bundy that I that I personally made at 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.960 home when I was in my early twenties, and so 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.680 I made this bundy, and I was like, gonna bedazzle 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.560 the bundy. So I was going to do like a 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:32.200 bedazzled laplap, which is basically just like a skirt slash. Yeah, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.520 it looks like it. Honestly, it looks like a nappy. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.720 Like it has such cultural significance. That's what you wear 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.600 at ceremony. It's what you know, traditionally was worn by 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.240 men in the tribe. It is a piece of cloth 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.560 cloth that goes around the waist, just like jocks. Yeah, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.080 basically just to cover up your private parts. But I 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.080 was actually thinking that I would do like the front 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.880 would look like a lap lap and the back would 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.280 be like a jock strap. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:03.000 That's kind of hard on it, Like it's like this isn't. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.440 The in the bag. And then I was gonna like 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:12.000 maybe put on my back like back yeah big, big, big, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:17.800 I mean not big. So I was like, yeah, I 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.920 was looking forward to it. Then I thought, oh, no, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.080 like I just I just can't get there. I just 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.120 can't do it this year. So that's what I would 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:24.520 have worn. 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:29.320 What about you, Oh, I don't. If I was on 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:30.880 the Blackfellow. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.640 Flow, I would have yeah, probably tried to you know, 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.360 be dazzle something probably similar, But I mean I have 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:45.520 varied in my outfits. One year I wore like practically 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.920 like undies and like a strapless top, and then like 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.120 this beaded. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.400 Dress over the top. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:52.680 That was my first year. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.000 And then my second year I wore like like stockings, 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.920 like this one piece with like it was a long sleep, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.760 and then like blue boots because I was kind of well, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.360 I was with a brand and the. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.920 Colors were blue. But yeah, I don't know. I mean 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.480 I'm in my Thai era. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.159 So I feel like I probably would have done like 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.840 a preppy, preppy vibe, preppy vie. Yeah, I mean like 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.480 preppy rainbow kind of vibe. Okay maybe yeah. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:28.000 And so because you're now in a woman, let's go there, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 how is it going? Like do you feel the gay love? 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:31.440 We do? 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.399 We haven't really spoken about Marti Graf. I'm being honest, like, 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.879 I think Mea is kind of deciding what she wants 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:44.320 to do. She's flying back, She's coming to Melbourne on Thursday, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.680 and she is flying back to Sydney on the Friday, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.960 and I'm flying to Brisbane, So she kind of doesn't 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.960 know what she wants to do. I mean, I've already 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.919 told her I'm away. I'd love for her to come 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.680 to Brisbane obviously for the book stuff, but she does 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.280 have work commitment in life. Yeah, but yeah, it's going good. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:04.120 It's really good. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:04.840 Oh fun. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.600 Yeah. Yeah, I've seeing each other a lot. I mean 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.000 we're kind of nailing this long distance you yeah. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.479 Yeah, you're not going to get to you know, too far. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.320 I mean we looked you know, now, we'll probably have 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:17.560 like a joint calendar souit. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.280 I love that, h well, I mean feeling the love. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.040 Yeah about you and Danny. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.919 You're going to go away, so we're going to have 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.480 a wholesome like are you going to like also Ranks. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.399 I also just spent three grand on Beyonce tickets, I know, 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.680 and so I also I'm about to book my flights 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.120 to Europe for my thirtieth So it's all about like 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.080 just making sure that I'm not overdoing the spending, you 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.480 know as well. So it's like we want to go away, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.200 but I'm not going to like book some lux place, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.080 so it's going to be like some little shack on 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:50.960 the beach somewhere. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.560 Oh yeah. Actually talking about obviously on the topic of 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:55.520