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Speaker 1: The big Footy issues from every angle, dissected by a

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Speaker 1: team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever

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Speaker 1: you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide

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Speaker 1: to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Arguably the flattest round in modern AFL history was saved

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Speaker 2: by beautifully Bonker's final quarter on Sunday as Nasiah Wanganame

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Speaker 2: Millerer inspired a Marvel miracle. But as the dust settles

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Speaker 2: on the superstars heroics, it's hard to ignore the elephant

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Speaker 2: in the room. A top five player in the AFL

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Speaker 2: remains unsigned for next year with four games left in

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Speaker 2: the Home in the Way season. So how has it

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Speaker 2: got to this and where to from here will dissect

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Speaker 2: the same situation. We'll also dive into some of the

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Speaker 2: biggest trade storylines as we hit the run home Runway,

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Speaker 2: And of course we have all of your favorite regular

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Speaker 2: segments on the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben Waterworth with you,

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Speaker 2: as is the Men Reeling from a Tuesday Retirement Bombshell,

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Speaker 2: Will Forkner, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Fork, Hello Ben? How are you great? Probably better than

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Speaker 3: you after Rory Atkins's retirement.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, there could be many elephants in the room today.

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Speaker 4: It could have been Roy Reatkins's retirement, as you just said.

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Speaker 4: It also could be the man on my right and

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Speaker 4: your left. Yes, seeing David is either.

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Speaker 3: Back in his natural habitat of the Fox Footy podcast

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Speaker 3: Bunker and also the Fantastic four ambassador.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Ben and William.

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Speaker 3: It's magnificently nice of you to lower yourself back to.

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Speaker 5: Our I'm sorry, Nick lower Yes, Nick sorry, this is

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Speaker 5: what we do on We just say names and we

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Speaker 5: just anyways is normally. It's good to be here. Max

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Speaker 5: is in Ballyhi is still posting he did the run home.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hit the run home. And I think we've

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Speaker 3: got an all I reckon. I've got an all staff

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Speaker 3: meeting this week and I've got a dollar ten that

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Speaker 3: Max will still tune in via.

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Speaker 5: But you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: I reckon. We take bets on what like the background

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Speaker 4: is going to be? Is it Paul Side?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Do you reckon? I reckon? He tries to massive and

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Speaker 5: he's not on leave even though he is. It does

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Speaker 5: hold on, where's the book?

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Speaker 3: We don't have the book.

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Speaker 5: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Your guess is good, but yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think it could be full side. It's not on his desk,

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Speaker 3: not that I can see there. David will sits on

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Speaker 5: I was gonna go out. No, okay, well that's interesting, but.

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Speaker 3: We've got some very good contents still coming your way,

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Speaker 3: which you're going to enhance, no doubt, your common hands

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Speaker 3: with your commentary on the three podcast. For some it'll

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Speaker 3: be a case of where were you when Nasai won

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Speaker 3: the Marvel miracle for Sin Kilda? Is he now a

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Speaker 4: For I would say yes, without having done the list itself,

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Speaker 4: you're about to find out, but yes, I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: He just keeps doing it week on week on week,

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Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever seen someone's worth go up

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Speaker 3: So what what does that mean for his footy future?

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Speaker 3: For he remains unsigned for twenty twenty six and beyond

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Speaker 3: at probably the player on everyone's lips at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to it's hard to know where it's from

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. I mean, you know more than most that

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Speaker 4: I've been very big on the fact that Port Adelaide

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Speaker 4: I think we've gotten to a point where it is

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Speaker 4: I said to fellow staff member Jack Jovinoski earlier today Drama.

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Speaker 4: we saw the celebrations at Hotel Brighton on Sunday night. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Robert Marshall claimed in the press conference yesterday David that

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Speaker 5: I'm staggered that Ross could lift Nas up. I've seen

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Speaker 4: He's the first time Maasket up on some shoulders on absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's how he's been practicing. It's just

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Speaker 5: Well maybe, but honestly, I'm like that is as good

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Speaker 3: You've been to a lot of Ross presses. I've had

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Speaker 5: About, doesn't take it, doesn't take overly kindly to it.

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Speaker 5: None you ask about that. I think Ross is interesting,

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Speaker 5: Game, after the game the game, Yes, different difference. Yes, sorry,

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Speaker 5: And he said it was a strange question for a

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Speaker 3: I thought, well, it's not really, I can't win.

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Speaker 5: It's not about an upcoming like it's about everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: in the midweek, but we got to ask pregame about Nazen.

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Speaker 5: He was, You've got a bit to gotta get upset

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Speaker 4: Which?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelly's got every right to ask that question. Also

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I just I think everyone wants to know

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Speaker 3: So if he left Sinkilda considering I think there is

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Speaker 5: I think it's huge. If they lose Nassaiah, I think

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Speaker 5: So if he leaves, it's a building block of the club,

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Speaker 5: that a foundational piece that's gone. Like is everything that

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Speaker 5: think would be just an extraordinary blow. He can lose.

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Speaker 5: You can lose Row Marshall. We can talk about him

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Speaker 5: you know, there's been word about Jack Steele wanting to go.

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Speaker 5: You can lose. That's fine, but like it's you know

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Speaker 5: but to lose Naz, I mean, he's just like everything

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Speaker 3: got him a pick eleven. We always talk about some

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Speaker 4: They would really be the only way they could facilitate it. Ben,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Zach Butters is the person at Pudalaide now

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Speaker 4: of the next year, who's been most spoken about leaving Alberton.

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Speaker 4: I can't see him leaving this year, which means he's

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Speaker 4: no use to the NASA any Thesiah trade that's proposed.

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Speaker 4: And we're being really blunt. If por Adelaide lose Butters,

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Speaker 4: they will get back some form of compensation that they

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Speaker 4: would have had to give up this year to get Nasiah.

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Speaker 4: So if at any point they value in the Siah

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Speaker 4: it's a very lineball call. But they if they lose Butters,

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Speaker 4: they would get back what they give up from the

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Speaker 4: have to be in draft capital. I can't really see

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Speaker 4: any of their other star players leaving. Rosie stays, Horn

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Speaker 4: Francis is locked in long term, Miles is just recent signed,

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Speaker 4: he's not going to leave this year. George Yard is

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Speaker 4: his long term. Like, there isn't anyone there that has

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Speaker 4: star power in their top bracket that could be used

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Speaker 4: for a trade other than Butters. And as I said,

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Speaker 4: that's not gonna be this year, that's gonna be next

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Speaker 4: is sank Kilda the club that Butters would want to

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Speaker 3: Because he's always been linked to the Western based Victorian clubs.

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Speaker 3: He's a Western Jets product, the Dogs and the Cats.

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Speaker 5: I just I've heard far stronger shows of I'm staying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, entirely. Yeah, that's too beast player.

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Speaker 5: I think it would be. Yeah. I mean Tom Deaconing, Like, sure,

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Speaker 3: It's about as unromantic as it gets.

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Speaker 5: Well maybe, well, Stephen Silvanni and the Blues, this is

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Speaker 3: So if you could only keep one, then because Charlie Curno,

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Speaker 3: if you could only keep one of those three players

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Speaker 5: How old Sam Walsh? Yeah, pick one back in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 5: and what's Kerner twenty three?

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Speaker 3: Three years older?

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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't want to lose both of Kur. I'd

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Speaker 5: they should. You don't need to be as wedded to

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Speaker 5: they're both here, they're staying long term, they're not moving.

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Speaker 5: You don't lose both.

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Speaker 3: You were at Michael Voss's press conference, and again you're

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Speaker 3: You asked about the Charlie Kurno reports. Let the Sam

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Speaker 5: Well, Charlie did later on he did, But.

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Speaker 5: Hear yeah, I find yeah again it was more just

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Speaker 5: it's speculation, it's not. I'm like, well, I mean, this

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Speaker 5: and Cow They're not. They're not, they're not, They're not idiots.

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Speaker 4: Tom said the club was aware of trying to do

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Speaker 5: They've had to tell him or in his management that

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Speaker 5: it's not happening.

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Speaker 4: It was a pretty air tight report like it's not.

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Speaker 5: Gonna yeah, and then Cal's backed it up with two

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Speaker 5: not leaving. Done again, he wasn't asked, you know. He

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Speaker 3: What about Can you see all three of Walsh, McKay

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I think the way they finished this season

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Speaker 4: as Ralphie put pretty well, for a superstar to be

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Speaker 4: in return where both parties are happy. Ben King, someone

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it seems like he As far

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Speaker 5: let's try and use it. That's when I could see

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Speaker 3: And everyone keep trefacing the brutal Collingwood calls made at

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Speaker 5: Doesn't he gets left out?

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Speaker 3: It does?

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Speaker 5: And there are two he does. There are more than two.

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Speaker 5: He was the third.

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Speaker 3: That's right, good afternoon to two. If he's listening, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure he is. The giche was unleashed in per recently.

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Speaker 3: Nick Geeshon, the manager of Harley Reed.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't do a lot of media.

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Speaker 3: But he was his doorstop, door stop.

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Speaker 5: That's that's why. That's when you do a media's media.

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Speaker 3: He did some, that's right. Nick Gieshon flew back from

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Speaker 3: come back with counteroffers, the big one essentially being an

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Speaker 3: eleven year deal worth approximately twenty four million dollars, which

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Speaker 3: is which is decent coin. Yes, how much do you

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Speaker 4: Fork, I feel like have a little bit more to

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Speaker 4: not a whole lot. Yeah, shame of season came to

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Speaker 4: caption for West Coast Eagles fans. Oh yes, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: it's down to West Coast. It's whether or not they

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Speaker 4: want to take that deal that's been put in front

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Speaker 4: of them by Nick Deishonz. You've obviously a lot to

435
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Speaker 4: say on this.

436
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Speaker 5: No, No, I don't. I just social like it's a

437
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Speaker 5: social It's a social media post like.

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Speaker 3: It was big biggest hints.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, just it's a social media post. He's not. No,

440
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Speaker 5: it's just a post. We all right, captions and we move.

441
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Speaker 5: It's not a big thing.

442
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Speaker 3: Tom got a bit of flak for it last week,

443
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Speaker 3: but his report is his sound right in terms of

444
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Speaker 3: he will not enter twenty twenty six unsigned for twenty

445
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Speaker 3: twenty seven.

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was grossly misquoted by an account on x

447
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Speaker 4: which I think brought a fair dis scrutiny towards his way.

448
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Speaker 4: But yeah, as you said, what he was saying was

449
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Speaker 4: that he's they're not going to put him through one

450
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Speaker 4: last year of being uncontracted to which I mean the

451
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Speaker 4: media scrutiny around him already is just unheld. Is that

452
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Speaker 4: unhelded unprecedented? Apprecedented, so, and it's already a bit ridiculous.

453
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Speaker 4: So I can totally understand that we expecting home and

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Speaker 4: away do we think.

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Speaker 5: Well, you'd have to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you want to let

457
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Speaker 4: it get to the trade period.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all that main you want to you want

459
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Speaker 5: to just if.

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Speaker 4: You're staying yes, if you're staying yes, sorry, obviously if

461
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Speaker 4: you're going to get traded.

462
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Speaker 5: Then you would leave it to the trade period.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think he's Yeah, you'd think it's sooner

465
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Speaker 5: better than later, wouldn't you. Apparently I've still got a month.

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Speaker 3: Apparently Hawthorne are in love with him. So we you

467
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Speaker 3: mentioned the Hawks out, Yes, Hawthorne.

468
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Speaker 5: Was in Australia with him.

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Speaker 3: If if if he left West Coast, do you think

470
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Speaker 3: Hawthorne's it would be in positioned.

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Speaker 5: I just think you'd see everyone come from the woodwork

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Speaker 5: try and get a get a look in Hawthorne. I mean,

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Speaker 5: what did you call to me say that they're like

474
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Speaker 5: a borderline obsessed with him?

475
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was his quote.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was knocked back a little bit by Sam Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, Well, I think he questioned, are we obsessed

478
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Speaker 4: with him?

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Speaker 5: Well? I think the media as a whole, we're probably

480
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Speaker 5: bought a lot obsessed with I don't think there've beenny

481
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Speaker 5: shortage of clubs.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to pretend I can pick one for

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Speaker 4: you point blank. Ben, do you think he stays at

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Speaker 4: West Coast beyond this year?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I think he does.

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Speaker 5: Feel like he does too.

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Speaker 3: I think he does. But what what they've done here

488
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Speaker 3: is they've been shrewd with the setup of this contract

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Speaker 3: where it's, as I mentioned, essentially eleven years, but it's

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Speaker 3: a two year extens with a trigger for nine years

491
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Speaker 3: after that, and it just gives him flexibility.

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Speaker 4: Contract. Poor Ryan Lester has been going one year contract.

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Speaker 4: I've probably had triggers for the last six years.

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Speaker 5: We're all we're not even on a year. We're just

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Speaker 5: one rolling yeah, rolling, Brendan Bolton, David Nobles. See what

496
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Speaker 5: happened there? Just long any day there we could just

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Speaker 5: good goodbye?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: It a bit like Josh Kelly's deal.

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Speaker 5: Josh Kelly was there a nine year, it was a

501
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Speaker 5: nine or ten, he had the sugar the short term

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Speaker 5: one and then it was a massive trigger.

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Speaker 3: It's a similar ish to that that and Josh Kelly

504
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Speaker 3: has stayed the course despite so many offers when he

505
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Speaker 3: was really in the peak of his career. So I

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Speaker 3: give them flexibility, but it's just where the West Coast

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Speaker 3: are committed to that cash.

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Speaker 5: To him going right, I'm triggering it. Yeah, there's nine

509
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Speaker 5: years and there's twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Million overs significant. Should he be the most paid player

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Speaker 4: in the AFL, David.

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Speaker 5: I think marketing wise and just the sort of X

513
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Speaker 5: factor he brings. I would say it wouldn't upset me

514
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Speaker 5: if he was the big highest paid player in the comp. No,

515
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Speaker 5: if he is to but if he's playing at this

516
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Speaker 5: level in three years, I'd say he shouldn't be. But

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Speaker 5: I think natural development he'll be. He'll get better. I

518
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Speaker 5: think he'll get a lot better than what he is now.

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Speaker 5: He'll just sort of start to unlock things.

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Speaker 3: So from a West Coast perspective, they're highly likely to

521
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Speaker 3: lose Oscar Allen as a free agent for nothing to Brisbane,

522
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Speaker 3: and Brisbane could also acquire Samva for nothing. On top

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Speaker 3: of that, they could also get They should also get

524
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Speaker 3: the best pure midfielder in the draft this year, Daniel

525
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Speaker 3: Annibal from the Lions academy, who had twenty eight disposed

526
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Speaker 3: as a team high in the VFL lines on the weekend.

527
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Speaker 3: The guy can seriously play. I think he'd be playing

528
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Speaker 3: now David Brisbane's list.

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Speaker 5: Well on Brisbane's list if he's Brisbane SIDR.

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Speaker 3: Now I think he would be as part of that midfield.

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Speaker 5: Very high sort of praise.

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Speaker 4: So your second in your Paris, he was.

533
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Speaker 3: Second in my Paris last week.

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Speaker 5: Well, you say for nothing, but they're getting they we're

535
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Speaker 5: getting a pick pick two, well pick for Oscarl.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying Brisbane is getting them.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, sorry, excuse me.

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Speaker 3: So but West Coast will be getting pick two response back,

539
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Speaker 3: and how West Coast use that selection in terms of

540
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Speaker 3: do they split it again, which they've received some negative

541
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Speaker 3: feedback for doing in the past, or taking a pick

542
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Speaker 3: two right there? Sure, but they also the lines might

543
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Speaker 3: lose Brandon's starts it's to West Coast as a free

544
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Speaker 3: agent there, So from how do you read what's the

545
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Speaker 3: best case scenario? Then from a West Coast perspective that

546
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Speaker 3: they get picked to you back from for Oscar Allen

547
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Speaker 3: get Brandon Stasovich's that's probably not the worst result, Not

548
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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 4: It's not the worst result. I mean, there aren't going

550
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Speaker 4: to be too many other rival players looking to come

551
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Speaker 4: back to West Coast. I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 4: anyone that wants to come to your club is a

553
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Speaker 4: good thing. Starts which is a Premiership hero Brisbane, very

554
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Speaker 4: very good defender touch, what he stay is healthy. It's

555
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Speaker 4: a great acquisition.

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Speaker 5: That's the biggest concern.

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Speaker 4: You've got Liam Baker, You've got Jack Graham, You've got

558
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Speaker 4: a few other senior guys who you've come in in

559
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Speaker 4: the last few years. And then from a draft perspective,

560
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Speaker 4: is it do you go for quality or quantity?

561
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Speaker 3: Depends on which pick you have. Yeah, I think this

562
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Speaker 3: is the year to target quality if you try and

563
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Speaker 3: get as high as you can. Because it was doing

564
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Speaker 3: the rankings last week I got to about twelve and

565
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Speaker 3: then from thirteen onwards it was like you could close

566
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Speaker 3: to throwing darts at the dartboard in terms of where

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Speaker 3: you would rank them.

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Speaker 4: And as I said, I don't know who you would

569
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Speaker 4: get with a pick, like who else would come into

570
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Speaker 4: the club with that pick. So unless there was someone

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Speaker 4: that was seriously worth it, and you would hope had

572
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Speaker 4: a lot of time left in their career, they're not

573
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Speaker 4: sort of an aging veteran like what North Melbourne did

574
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Speaker 4: with Luke Parker and Jack Darling. I would assume you

575
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Speaker 4: would take it to the draft.

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Speaker 3: That is an immatate sort of trade focused start. I

577
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Speaker 3: did promise David would be punchy. So let's keep moving.

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Speaker 1: And now on the Fox Footy Podcast, another strong edition

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Speaker 1: of Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast.

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Speaker 3: Fair or Fast? Yes, Yes, will losing Zach Merritt will

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Speaker 3: rip apart the rebuild at Essendon. Fair or Fast will rip.

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Speaker 4: Apart if he lest left lest right Lester? Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, certainly would. He's been a heart and

584
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Speaker 4: soul of the club since they dot Really do I

585
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Speaker 4: think you'll leave? No? No, if he did, yes, it would.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Brad Scott Zach Merritt relationship is

588
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Speaker 3: too tight, too tight for him to Yeah, I got this.

589
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Speaker 3: That's that's it's not unhealthy at all. It's I think

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Speaker 3: it's very healthy. That Yeah, I can't. I think he's

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Speaker 3: just all in.

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Speaker 5: It's got like bon Bevo vibes, doesn't it, but very

593
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Speaker 5: very very intertwined, David.

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Speaker 3: The AFL has clearly softened its stance on players dangerously

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Speaker 3: pushing opponents Fair or fast.

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Speaker 5: Clearly softened or.

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Speaker 3: Fine?

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Speaker 5: I'd say fair in fair and that I think we

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Speaker 5: probably it was like the descent, you know, you get

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Speaker 5: to a certain point, it's just like, oh you can,

601
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Speaker 5: and it really hit its peak with the Ryan Mansell

602
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Speaker 5: push and then the my check one. I think it

603
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Speaker 5: could have gone either way. I think he's probably lucky

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Speaker 5: to get away with a fine, definitely. So I think

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Speaker 5: if it was back when that Mansele thing happened, maybe,

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Speaker 5: if it was at that point where we're all talking

607
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Speaker 5: about pushes in the tests, maybe he gets a week.

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Speaker 5: So I think he is. He'd be pretty happy to

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Speaker 5: Not that you're happy to pay a hefty fine, but

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Speaker 5: that's I think he's got off well there.

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Speaker 3: But if it's a couple of centimeters either way from

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Speaker 3: Nick Vostone as well and some serious damage, absolutely he's looking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's another intent versus outcome.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if Nick Floston is concust from that,

615
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 5: what happens, I mean I think, well, yeah, if it's yeah,

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Speaker 5: yeah it is. So that's that's how it works in

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Speaker 5: the system. So I think he's very I think he's

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Speaker 5: fortunate rather than such good practice. It's good fortune rather

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Speaker 5: than good practice, as they said in their trophy in

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Speaker 5: all the other week.

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Speaker 3: And Sillery question that was the secondary Do you sense

622
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Speaker 3: that the mrro matrix is near the top of Greg

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Speaker 3: Swan's priority list to assess.

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Speaker 5: Top I don't know if it's near the top, but

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Speaker 5: I think it's certainly well. If he's got a list

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Speaker 5: of what did you say? Forty three things, I think

627
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Speaker 5: it would be forty three pages. I think it would

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Speaker 5: be near the top. How many things that are on

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Speaker 5: forty three pages?

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Speaker 3: It depends on the fonts on Yeah yeah, comic.

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Speaker 4: Sans Liberty Times, the Roman windings.

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Speaker 3: It depends on the Joe Fonti size, Willery, we love caliber.

633
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Speaker 3: Toby Green's halftime comment didn't cross the line, but he

634
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Speaker 3: was pretty darn close to it.

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Speaker 4: Fair or fast, that's fair, I think retrospectively knowing why

636
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Speaker 4: Toby said what he said, which was in reference to

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Speaker 4: Papley calling Stringer overweight, yes, I think it was just

638
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Speaker 4: tongue in cheek and trying to shed light as to

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Speaker 4: what Papley had said. It was clearly the first thing

640
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Speaker 4: that came to his mind, and there was no filter

641
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Speaker 4: because it was about all of a four second interview.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're two guys who don't beat around the bush.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone was particularly offended, and probably speaks

644
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Speaker 4: to the fact that Papley sent Greens McDonald's later that

645
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: night shows you there's some pretty good band to between

646
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Speaker 4: the two. So I'm glad there wasn't any intervention perhaps

647
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: kicking or to quote Damon hard but you're kicking the

648
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: nuts after kicking Dane Rampy at the very start.

649
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: Of that game a segway stand by David.

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Speaker 3: Yes, then if Toby Green did the same back kick

651
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Speaker 3: in a game next year, he would be suspended fair

652
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Speaker 3: or fast.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think from me what I can understand from

654
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Speaker 5: how the AFL looked at it is that they thought

655
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Speaker 5: that they couldn't tell if the what level of impact

656
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Speaker 5: there was, because Dame Rampy sort of just took it

657
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 5: and kept going where it's not Dan Rampy seems like

658
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: that sort of like if you kick, if you kick

659
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Speaker 5: anyone in the in the testicles, they will get quite

660
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Speaker 5: upset with you after being quite pained. Yes, for about

661
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Speaker 5: thirty or forty seconds, actually correct. But so I think

662
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Speaker 5: the fact that Dane didn't go after it, or maybe

663
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 5: they thought it can't have been that bad, so impact

664
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Speaker 5: was negligible. You can't really get an upgraded to low

665
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Speaker 5: from negligible.

666
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it.

667
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: Maybe it gets thrown out at the trophy, or maybe

668
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Speaker 5: they is how they would have thought about that case.

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Speaker 5: I think he's he's very fortunate.

670
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Speaker 4: Again in ten verses outcome like he's thrown his leg back.

671
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Speaker 5: He knows his I think.

672
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Speaker 3: Footage isn't doesn't look great. The optics are.

673
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: No, he knows where he's he knows where the foot's going.

674
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Speaker 4: I would have thought, looks like he's in the really

675
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: box and he's trying to kick it behind his head.

676
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well he certainly hit a ball.

677
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you balls.

678
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Speaker 5: Sorry Will.

679
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: This is based off Rosslyn's comments last week making the

680
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Speaker 3: first round untouchable for father's son an academy bid matching

681
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: would help fix draft inequity, fear or fast we went

682
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Speaker 3: this press conference.

683
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Speaker 5: No, that was Drew the package Jones. I think your package.

684
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Speaker 5: I think that Ross likes having a back and forth

685
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: with with Drew. I doesn't I think so well, Drew

686
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: likes to think so.

687
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: Is he a fan of his packages? Not a fan

688
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: of his packages?

689
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: I don't think he sees his package packages for those

690
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: it's a it's a TV parlance.

691
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Speaker 3: For yes, for tape, not stringer.

692
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Speaker 5: It's not a phallic reference.

693
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Speaker 4: All that is it?

694
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Speaker 3: That is a fast So he said eighteen, the first

695
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Speaker 3: eighteen pick should be untouched.

696
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: No fast, Perhaps you have to pay significantly more than

697
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Speaker 4: what they already do in the first round. Like I

698
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: understand that theory. But the romantic element having a father

699
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: son pick, whether it be picked one or pick nine,

700
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's always had a place

701
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: in that game just made the clubs pay up significantly.

702
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: And if the club's want to get that player I

703
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: Levi Ashcroft for example, like Brisbane will pay up for it.

704
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be a case of

705
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: Brisbane whatever realistically pass on someone like that within within

706
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Speaker 4: reason as to how high that much they should pay.

707
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Speaker 3: But fast Ross and last one, David greg Swan must

708
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: enforce a strict sixty minute time limit on all tribunal deliberations.

709
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: Fair or.

710
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Speaker 5: I don't even need to answer that to it. That's

711
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: I would say, that's fair man.

712
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Speaker 3: How did you pull up from your ninety minute deliberation?

713
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: It was seven days ago.

714
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Speaker 5: I got, I got, I got a few messages asking

715
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Speaker 5: if I was everything was okay, and there was it

716
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Speaker 5: just was a.

717
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Speaker 4: Goole bit of re as well, David.

718
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Speaker 5: After I did see one account, decided to honestly seriously

719
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Speaker 5: and I turned off like a lot of the Maybe

720
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Speaker 5: I shouldn't, but I turned off a lot of the notifications.

721
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Speaker 5: I did that a long time ago. Yeah, unless I

722
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: follow these people. So a couple of accounts don't really

723
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Speaker 5: bother me unless there are people I respect and listen to.

724
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Speaker 5: That's good. Dad hasn't told me he loves me. So

725
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Speaker 5: Tony shout out.

726
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: To Tony strong cart and support a Tony.

727
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Speaker 5: He's strong, all right, He's certainly patient. He's he's one

728
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: of those guys he doesn't even get like he's just permanent.

729
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: He never gets like up at about He's just permanently pessimistic,

730
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Speaker 5: which I think, judging by the recent history, is smart

731
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: from Tony because they're still cooking wherever they were cooking

732
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: back in twenty twelve.

733
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Speaker 3: Well, Father's Days just around the corner, so yeah, when

734
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: is it just over a month away?

735
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Speaker 4: First Sunday of September?

736
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Speaker 5: Can you get your dad something for Father's Day?

737
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

738
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Normally yeah, Well he.

739
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 5: Doesn't like gifts though, I don't get anything for Christmas?

740
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: Well I do, but it's like Mum helps us because

741
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 5: he doesn't want of service. Maybe in some act yes,

742
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: but he doesn't want any actors. I actually, you know,

743
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Speaker 5: I know, I'll fix because the Fox tell that he's

744
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 5: got a new remote doesn't work properly. I need to

745
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Speaker 5: fix it.

746
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Speaker 3: We'll get you on of that. It's now timed for

747
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Speaker 3: the mail bag on.

748
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Speaker 1: The Fox Foody podcast. It's time to open up the

749
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: mail bag. Have a question for the panel. Tweetus every

750
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Monday morning at Fox Footy.

751
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Speaker 3: Just three questions because we want to keep this punchy

752
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: here on the ford. It's very puny, Leslie holding this

753
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Speaker 3: one's for you here. Will I reckon what is the

754
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: better match up? It's a bit probably too footy heavy

755
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: for day, but at this time of the day, what

756
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: is the better match up Hawthorne's tall backs against Adelaide's

757
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: tall forwards or Hawthorne's tall forwards against Adelaide's tall backs.

758
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: It's definitely so Hawthorne's tall backs would be Scrimshaw, Barras

759
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Barris against the Walker phil Thorpe, Fogginy and the tall

760
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Speaker 3: Fords of Hawthorne. Well, we think at the moment it's

761
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Speaker 3: Lewis cal Shadeer Gunston against Josh Warrel. No Max, Michael Annie.

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Speaker 4: No, no Max, he probably wouldn't play one of them.

763
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Speaker 4: It's probably a Worrel Keene Butts type operation. The former.

764
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Speaker 4: I think I think more staff power in that had

765
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Speaker 4: form good headache.

766
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Speaker 3: Yes, uh, this is from at Mitchell Robinson.

767
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Speaker 5: Mitch Robinson.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he sends another one who's asked to write this podcaster.

769
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think that it is from rip Through.

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Speaker 3: It's Mitch Robins.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to the rip Through a podcast with Mitt

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Speaker 5: Robinson and the being healthily large man that is Reese Matheson.

773
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Speaker 5: Have you seen him?

774
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Speaker 3: He worked hard?

775
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Speaker 5: No, no, but like it's Unhealthy's probably a stretch. But like

776
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: no one can be that big without like creditne creutines.

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Speaker 5: Creutcene is good. It is like it's yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 4: Body fits David Z like that must be a body

779
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Speaker 4: fit fait body fit this morning.

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Speaker 5: No, I was gonna go right because I'm not a

781
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Speaker 5: morning guy, which is given I worked in breakfast radio.

782
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Speaker 3: Yes, I probably turned you into not a man.

783
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Speaker 5: Probably. Yeah, So I had the laugh at six a m.

784
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: Went to bed at nine thirty, like I fell asleep

785
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Speaker 5: at ten like it good roturn like, well, it was

786
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Speaker 5: a new It took me a bit because it was new.

787
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Speaker 5: Worke up at six and I'm like nah, and I

788
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: just turned it off and then we make a sleep.

789
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Speaker 3: It's very hard this time of the year winters.

790
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I may have I will have to go

791
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 5: after work to the Cardio hit concession.

792
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Speaker 3: All the very best of that. Does Brisbane's ruck situation

793
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: worry you heading into the final stretch of the season,

794
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: And do you think Craig McCrae goes to these typical

795
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: two ruck set up against Brisbane, even with Mason Cox

796
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: being on the outer of the best twenty.

797
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: Two does their ruck set up?

798
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Speaker 5: It doesn't really concern me too. I mean, they're not

799
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Speaker 5: going to have another They just they can't really replace

800
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 5: what Joe was doing. I don't think they can do that.

801
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: No. I think Ford has been honorable in the role

802
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 4: that he's done, but it's just not Joe Danna Earth.

803
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 4: I think the concern comes out of Oscar mackinonly he's

804
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: getting quite sore and most of.

805
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: Because you asked the lines, what what what? What's he

806
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: been dealing with? And it's just like it's just a

807
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: collection of things just saws like genuinely, just that many

808
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: different everything's connected, and everything just continues to play up

809
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: and one thing hurts another thing and it just keeps building.

810
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: So that would be concerned. They're going to I think

811
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Speaker 5: they're going to have to at some stage try and

812
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 5: manage it before the finals and to get him Cherry right.

813
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: I think Mason played Bocain in the VFL in the

814
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: weekend for Collingwood. He did. Yeah, they might be one

815
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: that call upon.

816
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: And then the last one is from at mister Mitchness.

817
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: Of the thirty seven remaining home and away matches, what

818
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: is the single most important match in this Premier Max,

819
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: particularly in regards to home finals. It could be this

820
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: Thursday night as we're getting to the tips and the cups,

821
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: as the Western Bulldogs host the Gwos Giants for the

822
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: Dylan Addison Cup. Very large game of AFL football.

823
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 5: This one it's better than last Thursday night. Gosh, yes,

824
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 5: and Friday night and Saturday night. I'm backing that field.

825
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: I'm backing the Dogs because it's here and also because

826
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: of the injuries and suspension to Toby Green and Josh

827
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Speaker 5: Kelly Jack Backley, i think they're all pretty key outs,

828
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: particularly for the Dogs against their wood line that's in

829
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: good form yep, and they didn't have too much opposition

830
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: last week. But I think it's you could have lean

831
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 5: the Dogs and they need to get this top eight

832
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 5: thing like off their back. Like I know, Bevo doesn't

833
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 5: really bow into it because they're really close games. It's

834
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 5: we're not you know where, Okay, they just need to

835
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: win because they need to win. Yeah, there's no shortage

836
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: of reasons why they need to win it. I just

837
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: think they need it more than the Giants do currently.

838
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: I think beyond this game, if we can assume the

839
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: Dogs win, just for hypothetical purposes, are Dogs three zero

840
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: round twenty three? I believe twenty four yeap like season

841
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: defining for both of them. Most likely I think could

842
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: be winning.

843
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: You're in, isn't it?

844
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well three with a really good position in terms

845
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: of win lost ratio, but the percentage is dire. So

846
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: if they get level with the Dogs or any of

847
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: the other teams, I think they're in some strife. They

848
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: missed a big chance against West Coast on Saturday evening

849
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: to up that percentage. Yeah, they won't have any other

850
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: opportunities from here.

851
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: On Friday night, we had to Adelaide for the Crows

852
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: and the Hawks. Ricky Henderson cup up for grabsa civil Fox.

853
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Speaker 5: Himself, Yes, Fox, Yes, Ah, Jesus, this is tough. I

854
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: know the Hawks are probably considered pretty significant outsiders I

855
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: think on the on the on the odds. But I

856
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 5: I've got a feeling about the Hawks. I just feel like.

857
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 3: They the gut field tips at this time of the week.

858
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think the Hawthorns just it will click.

859
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 5: I think it will click for the Hawks.

860
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: They're due for a statement. Yeah, And Adelaide's probably due

861
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 4: for a bit of a down game. I said that

862
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks now.

863
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: I think Hawthorne I think, and Sam Mitchell's getting a

864
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 5: bit I think's he'd be using the fact that everyone's

865
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: trying to think that they're the side that drops out

866
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: of the finals. Probably mean like, if you had to

867
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: pick a side based on run home, you probably pick.

868
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: Hawthorne, run home and reason for and if it's not

869
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: the doctor.

870
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Speaker 5: So I just think they're gonna like going to just

871
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 5: make a statement. That's my gut feel.

872
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: Super Saturday Live kicks off with Melbourne hosting West Coast God.

873
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: Steven Armstrong Cup up for grabs here O six Premiership eagle.

874
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: God, they need to win this, don't they imagine if

875
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: Melbourne lost this? Like if Melbourne lost this game?

876
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: Well last year when Melbourne played West Coast, Melbourne thump

877
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: West Coast and Adam Simpson departed two days later.

878
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: Are you suggesting some sort of the footy gods have

879
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: come to collect.

880
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: In your sense? You're raised if Melbourne lost this one.

881
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: Like, if Melbourne lost this, I don't know what happens,

882
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: but ras almost on the wall.

883
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, so they just can't lose it.

884
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: Melbourne, Gold Coast and Richmond for the Brandon Ellis Cup.

885
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: Are we going for the Gold Coast Sons? Yeah, believe

886
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: it or not.

887
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 4: Sons.

888
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: Very impressive win against Brisbane on the weekend from them.

889
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: Swan's and Bombers. Craig Bird Cup up for grabs. How

890
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: about this? We've got a game starting at four to ten,

891
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: a game starting at four point fifteen.

892
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 4: Excellent scheduling as always, that's.

893
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: Good yep, makes it rostering fun?

894
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: We go?

895
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Well?

896
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: Oh yes, the roster. How are you you think the

897
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: drop of the fixture bosses hard? Any waterworks job?

898
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: The roster depends on the fixture.

899
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 5: Still got access to that to Excel spreadsheet from back

900
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: in my digital days. It's just quite the it's quite

901
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: the merry go around and moving past easier around. Yeah, yes,

902
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 5: what was the game and the Swans and the Bombers.

903
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 4: We go the Swans, Swans.

904
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: Collingwood and Brisbane reasonably large game of football on Saturday night.

905
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: They've got so afl had a bad fixture scheduling round

906
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: last weekend, but they've got Dogs Giants Thursday, Crows Hawks

907
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: Friday and then this on the Saturday night calling.

908
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: Of clean air. Yes, Collingwood's changes will be interesting. I

909
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: think Craig be craced on three sixty's not still not

910
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 5: sure where whether de Gooie Hill like where where they

911
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: sit I mean Brisbane. They won't play two really poor

912
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 5: games in their row like last week was pretty pretty

913
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: pretty great Mulligan Mulligan. It's yeah, so.

914
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: O'l Leen, Collingwood, Ollen Collingwood. But I have a lot

915
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: of decisions to make. As David said, I think it's

916
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: all of Bobby Hill, John de Gooey, Den Houston's just

917
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: come back in, will come back in. Billy Franton played

918
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: VFL on the weekend bill. Will he do a job

919
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: and Harris Andrews again I don't know.

920
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes, the difference, Uh that was that's of

921
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: course for the Jackson Payne Cup and then we have

922
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: the Luke Delaney Cup up for grabs and Kilda in

923
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: North Melbourne kick off our Sunday ticket which you'll be

924
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: featuring on, David I hope. So yes, Well, yeah, you

925
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: saw your name and the roster.

926
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's good. It's a good start. Not our

927
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: roster though, your roster no different roster, yeah, but not

928
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 5: the same roster as the roster I have for my

929
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: full time job. That's a different roster because I'll go

930
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 5: for the you get it back to the same. Well,

931
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: North needs something.

932
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: But the Saints Saints Grinch season at Morabin, Grim season

933
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: at Rabin or Arden Street Grinch season, oh Grinch nor final. Yeah,

934
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: North season will truly be ruined. When Sunday one forty

935
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: pm start time at Marvel Stadium is it one forty Yeah,

936
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: it's a bizarre time forty very quickly fact check that

937
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: one forty pm at Marble stadium's doing this?

938
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure there. David's a Geelong and Port Adelaide.

939
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: That's this is three fifteen, isn't it. Yes, it is

940
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: for the Paul Cooley Otis Cuff.

941
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't know who that is, but it's great.

942
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Now played for Port Adelaide for one season in two thousand,

943
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: had three years away, then came back to.

944
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: Geelong for look up, do you look these up?

945
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: I've got a little formula.

946
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's Google the formula you google. I've played

947
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: for I've got a form This is like Max's run

948
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 5: home and this is like Max's tipping formula. Yeah, I've

949
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: got a form because Max has got a formula for

950
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 5: his tips, does it? He has got like a spreadsheet.

951
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: He uses takes it far too seriously.

952
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 5: I'm aware he's come well aware.

953
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: Speaking of you boys are doing quite well in the tipping.

954
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: I think we're all around the same mark.

955
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been I've had I've had my career best year.

956
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: I've had an up and down year. But it's been

957
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: in Ben Coon. Ben Common came from nowhere, didn't he

958
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: He did?

959
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: And then as well near the bottom he's stagnated.

960
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: The last one, is he?

961
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: I believe so. I think they're both equal at the moment.

962
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: It'd be a fascinating run home. We should do a

963
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 4: run home for we should do tips.

964
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 5: And two very different individuals too, extremely too extraordinarily different individuals.

965
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: One would just go with his gat and just go

966
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: over that, and the other one would just within an

967
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: inch of its life dissect the game.

968
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: I think the Cats could dissect put Adelaide very good

969
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: on Sunday afternoon.

970
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 5: Cats.

971
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: Sorry, I just have to ask Jeremy Cameron. One hundred

972
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 4: goals before ending of the way season, So.

973
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: Who that on sixty nine? They've got a good run home,

974
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 5: They've got more Essendon's.

975
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: Part of it. They've got part of it at Essendon. Yep.

976
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: So all right, let's say kicks five against Port and

977
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: he kicks seven Againstdon's twelve twelve eighty one, then he

978
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: has the Swans away could be a give him to

979
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: two and then fill your boots against Richmond that you mhba,

980
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: I know the mcg in round twenty four. I reckon

981
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: he could. He could potentially get to ninety okay, yeah,

982
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: and then finals and then finals eat Yeah.

983
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 5: So you think ninety.

984
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: I think you can get to ninety by the end

985
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: of the home and away season.

986
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, grand. Just imagine if John made the Grand and imagine.

987
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: He had to go on the Grand Final, the security that.

988
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: Everyone runs on, don't thay you're running on?

989
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as king you said on Saturday night,

990
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: corporate's running onto the ground in the.

991
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 5: Suits got there there. Actually, the Grand Final would probably

992
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: be a good best case because they just won't be

993
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: that many people running on because they won't really it

994
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: could be starting corporates don't really Yeah, up there in

995
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: the Ivory.

996
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: Towers anyway, Sorry, Cats win, Freemantle and Carlton finished the

997
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: round the Josh de Luca A five ten pm. Yeah, okay,

998
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: so that's why it's one forty. Yes, I think there's

999
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: a few Perth based games that are starting at five

1000
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: ten in the run home here just quirky.

1001
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yellow Ball.

1002
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: Three ten pm there, Yeah, it would be Yeah, I

1003
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: think the red Ball cut off is two thirty.

1004
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 4: I think so. I don't think you've ever seen something

1005
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: start at three pm. Maybe round one before daylight savings

1006
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: kicks in March.

1007
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 5: That saving no plural. No, it's not the appeal board.

1008
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 5: There's no ess at the end of it.

1009
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: Really.

1010
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 5: Even the AFL's official social media account says the appeals

1011
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 5: and it really upsets me anyway, No one.

1012
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: Cares you are the appeal board.

1013
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 5: No, that's not what I'm saying the Fremantle.

1014
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: Fremantle forty five minutes. David. You'll take that, won't you.

1015
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: That's pretty good reasoning.

1016
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: Hey, that's the tribuna. Wouldn't even be what half done

1017
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: at this point, Ye, literally done.

1018
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: Adrian Anderson would just be wrapping up his first.

1019
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 5: First of his eight thousand reasons yes, and then lose

1020
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 5: the case anyway.

1021
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: Three deliberations worth of a podcast.

1022
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: Yes, all the best.

1023
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: Great to have you with us.

1024
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: That's good hopefully, sorry for I'm not Max, but not right.

1025
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: And that was very very sharp. Great as per. Keep

1026
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: looking back to Foxfooty dot com dot see you in

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