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Speaker 1: Former DPP Stephen Polaris, who's standing for Parliament for Real

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Speaker 1: Change SA says enough is enough. The time for talk

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Speaker 1: has ended. He joins bin Ow Stephen Polaris, good evening.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Matthew, pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: What needs to happen? How does this change?

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Speaker 2: Lots need to happen, and I'm sort of seeing how

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Speaker 2: how cold is awaiting the report from the Royal Commissioner.

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Speaker 2: And what I hope does not happen is that we

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Speaker 2: get told the whole list of things that we already know.

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Speaker 2: And we don't need to be told that women are

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Speaker 2: being badly breaded both at home and by the legal system.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to be trolled a legal responses are

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Speaker 2: not good enough, either by the police or by the courts,

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Speaker 2: and we don't need to be told a whole lot

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Speaker 2: more needs to be done to ensure the safety of

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Speaker 2: these women who are assaulted. I say women, I'm fully aware,

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Speaker 2: in case people pick me up on it, I'm fully

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Speaker 2: aware that there are some men who are the subject

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Speaker 2: of domestic violence on the heart of women by far

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Speaker 2: the majority in that sense that amusing the description of women.

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Speaker 2: What needs to happen is we need to get a

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Speaker 2: report deals with at least five areas as far as

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Speaker 2: I can see. First that all we need to look

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Speaker 2: at the home, then at school, then police do and

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Speaker 2: then courts and then finally Parliament. And if I may

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Speaker 2: elaborate at what I mean, at home kids see this

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Speaker 2: going on and the figures you just read out, I

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Speaker 2: mean you've got to You've just got to take your

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Speaker 2: breath because the condition, or the or the progress of

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Speaker 2: domestic violence in this countau the last few years has

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Speaker 2: been like an epidemic. There are four women each year

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Speaker 2: in Australia at least who are learning in circumstances of

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Speaker 2: domestic violence. And we've heard evidence that the Royal Commission,

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Speaker 2: from our Commissioner, or at least from one of the

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Speaker 2: senior officers, that the police in South Australia adds one

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Speaker 2: hundred calls every day to a domestic violent situation and

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Speaker 2: on average they spend three hours at each of these calls.

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Speaker 2: Now it's three hundred hours of police work. And we

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Speaker 2: wonder when we need a couple we can't find one.

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Speaker 2: It's because they're forced to do this work. And why

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Speaker 2: if they say much of it, Well, I said, we

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Speaker 2: got to start in the home. Kids see what happens

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Speaker 2: at home, kids go up thinking that that's either normal

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Speaker 2: or okay. And kids then in the holy years reproduce

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Speaker 2: what they've seen and heard from mother or dad. So

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Speaker 2: we've got to have a situation where we start to

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Speaker 2: retrain our youngsters in terms of values. It's got to

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Speaker 2: start at the at the home, and the home by

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Speaker 2: that I mean the parents and the children together in

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Speaker 2: primary school, I would say throughout the whole of time,

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Speaker 2: this girl need to have classes, to have teaching, need

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Speaker 2: to have instruction about what is respectful behavior and what

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Speaker 2: is not. We then look at the police and that

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Speaker 2: the porugs are going to go out every night and

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Speaker 2: answer these hundred phone calls when they get to a

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Speaker 2: domestic violence scene, and they answered, and they knock on

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Speaker 2: the door, and they ended the doors normally answered by

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Speaker 2: a bloke who gives them a look of you. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing to see here, And they go inside and they

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Speaker 2: say a woman crying or obeeding or being bidden or

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Speaker 2: bleeding and heads are crying. What they do then is

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Speaker 2: for some reason or other which I can't have them.

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Speaker 2: They didn't gather the women and children together and take

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Speaker 2: them out of the house and wish them good luck

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Speaker 2: at finding someone to sleep that night at the rest

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Speaker 2: of the time, while the perpetrator is left in the house,

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Speaker 2: And that to me is ridiculous. It should be the

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Speaker 2: other way around, insult that the perpetrator ought to be

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Speaker 2: removed from the house, letting and find someone that slept

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Speaker 2: with mister British far and make sure that he knows

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Speaker 2: that he is not to return to the premisters or

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Speaker 2: in the woman, or by social media or by driving

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Speaker 2: up and down the streets bother them until a court

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Speaker 2: order permits him to do so.

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Speaker 1: But the problem right there isn't that why it doesn't happen,

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Speaker 1: Because who's to say he doesn't come back if he's

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Speaker 1: removed from the house. Of course he's going to go back.

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Speaker 2: Of course he does. And that's why we need electronic monitoring.

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Speaker 2: We need money. I know, look, all of these the

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Speaker 2: solutions that I advocating for are going to cost money.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know about about your your listeners. But

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Speaker 2: I would rather have a community in which I said,

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Speaker 2: into safety, rather than spend the millions of dollars that

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Speaker 2: we're spending on things like we leave golf and gather around. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm much great sports fanatic. I like those, I like

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Speaker 2: playing sport, and I like watching sports. But we've got

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Speaker 2: to give that priorities. Right when we put out the

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Speaker 2: allocation of the billions of dollars in our budget with

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Speaker 2: front money there, we just choose not to use it

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Speaker 2: in a way that guarantees us the security of our assidence.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about courts in Parliament, what needs to change there?

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Speaker 2: Courts in Parliament. In courts if a woman has if

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Speaker 2: she's being assaulted, she's got two choices right there. She

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Speaker 2: can either bring the police and luck on that one

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Speaker 2: woman had to wait eight hours of bullets officers turn

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Speaker 2: up at her house when you were ringing. She can

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Speaker 2: either in the police and hope they will come to

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Speaker 2: stop any further violence. Or she can choose to pop

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Speaker 2: magistrate's court and apply for an apprehended violance order. Now,

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Speaker 2: if she gets there on a Monday morning, ready to

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Speaker 2: sit in court the magistrates court, she's reached by one

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Speaker 2: day afternoon, she's doing very well, because, as most of

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Speaker 2: us now, the magistrate's cause a choco block full to

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Speaker 2: the brim with things like modico accidents, with family dispute,

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Speaker 2: with civil cases, with fencing, dispirits, with dog licens, all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things, and domestic violence. It's very very low rating.

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Speaker 2: What we need to do and this stands out like

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Speaker 2: the proverbials to me. What we need to do is

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Speaker 2: dedicate a magistrates court which specializes only in domestic violence,

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Speaker 2: populated by a magistrate who's had training in stress and

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Speaker 2: the sorts of traumas that these people go through, populated

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Speaker 2: by police officers who have had necessary training in how

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Speaker 2: to deal with the victors, and most of all populated

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Speaker 2: by lawyers. Ten parts spoke at all about what actually

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Speaker 2: trained in that. So we need to have a specialized

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Speaker 2: women to a safer position much more quickly than currently

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Speaker 2: is a situation in Parliament. What we need to do

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Speaker 2: with this, we need to start looking at the laws

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Speaker 2: which are governing the regulation of being in the domestic

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Speaker 2: violence cases to court our Sloane, They take weeks to

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Speaker 2: get to court, they are often effective, and they do

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Speaker 2: nothing to secure the women against the boat coming back.

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Speaker 2: We need to look at that, because when you talk

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Speaker 2: about politicians these days about the best enviolence to got

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Speaker 2: a camera environment politician, they will talk all night about

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately they disappear too. No one is prepared to

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Speaker 2: do anything about it. And I'm in a fortunate position

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Speaker 2: without Trump too much. I've been a defense character, I'm

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Speaker 2: in a prosecuting counselor, and I've been in charge. I

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Speaker 2: reckon I know as much about the criminal law in

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Speaker 2: this area as any other politician or indeed perhaps many

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Speaker 2: other lawyers, and I think I know how to handle

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Speaker 2: it and how to solve it and how to resolve it.

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Speaker 2: The others not in the band say yes, it's the

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Speaker 2: problem and then do nothing. Will need to put the

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Speaker 2: pressure on the politicians to actually get off their backsides

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Speaker 2: and instead of just blooding their head and tut tutting,

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Speaker 2: to actually knuckle down and do some of the things

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Speaker 2: that we've just been talking about.

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Speaker 1: All right, Charlie's called him with a question for you,

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Speaker 1: Steve and Charlie good evening.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Hi, Yeah, on one I'd like And I had

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Speaker 3: to vote for Stephen because I think he's a man

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Speaker 3: of great integrity and one of the fairest voices in

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Speaker 3: the state. And yeah, I heard what are you running

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Speaker 3: as an independent or with a party? And I think

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Speaker 3: as an after thought, well imagine you and nick Xenophone

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Speaker 3: getting together.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for those kind of words. Unfortunately, you know

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Speaker 2: I said my best doubt to Nicky hasn't been in

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Speaker 2: the best myself recently. To answer your question, I'm running

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Speaker 2: as an independent, but I have fought the party and

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Speaker 2: it's called real the Sleevehen Palar is real change now

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Speaker 2: some people it's all all he wanted to do is

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Speaker 2: get a political career. I can tell you flat with

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Speaker 2: right now. I don't want a political political career. I

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Speaker 2: had a career. What I want to do is make

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Speaker 2: a difference in the areas that I know a little

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Speaker 2: bit about. I owe it to my parents, who were

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Speaker 2: doing three jobs. It's to get me through law. I

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Speaker 2: owe it to the community. It's been supported with me.

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Speaker 2: I think I can do something that's going to make sense.

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Speaker 2: It will help people. The way you can vote to

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Speaker 2: me in the Upper House is look for my name.

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Speaker 2: Stephen polaris real change.

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Speaker 1: It's a all right, Charlie. Thank you for the question,

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Speaker 1: and Nicole and Stephen thank you for your time, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see what's in that Domestic Violence Royal Commission report

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Speaker 1: in what about thirty days or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be happy to come back if you need

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Speaker 2: any comments about that.

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Speaker 1: All right, good on you, Thanks for your time. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Stephen Polaris, who form a DPP here in essay

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Speaker 1: of course and says enough talk on domestic violence and

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Speaker 1: change needs to start in this area. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: the commission recommendations are