WEBVTT - Round 3 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>Some sides of the moment I think are benefiting greatly

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<v Speaker 1>from doing less.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if doing less is the right term,

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<v Speaker 2>but put it this way, less long winded, structured said pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Less sideways like.

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<v Speaker 3>What's required at the moment, as opposed to just playing

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<v Speaker 3>this elaborate player.

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to go and let's take three to the

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<v Speaker 2>far post.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, it's more like go forward, go forward, and then

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<v Speaker 1>reacting off that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger is the best example, and we spoke about them

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<v Speaker 2>last week.

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<v Speaker 1>They started the game coops that every time they got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>They just go sideways.

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<v Speaker 1>They pushed the ball at the edge, they get excited

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<v Speaker 1>and try to create through width. As the game started

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<v Speaker 1>to go on there you can see them now starting

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<v Speaker 1>to actually find their style more doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Less, keeping the ball through the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>When toroll May goes forward and creates a momentum, hey

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<v Speaker 1>take another one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to make us more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a look at some of this what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here on the game of the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>you see Leui just keeping the ball double drop under,

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<v Speaker 1>keep things nice and tight in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>His may, he's just been enormous. He goes forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not go sideways yet, yeah, bird, he goes forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the silver scoop goes over and scores and

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<v Speaker 1>you look very very basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Basic, but it works for him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's scored points afterwards, just in a simple form like

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<v Speaker 3>there's two ways you either make meters and score points.

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<v Speaker 3>One you ford momentum to shift, or you shift to

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<v Speaker 3>create space, and then the forward momentum. But at some

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<v Speaker 3>stage you have to take advantage of what you've created with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fast ruck, and you know, to the Tiger's

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<v Speaker 3>point that is it's basically three hit ups for a

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<v Speaker 3>crash over from whalf That's what it looks like. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's death by a thousand cuts. Ford momentum, quicker play

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, forward momentum. Quicker play the ball, and then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, the silver first person to make

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<v Speaker 3>a decision, realizes that he's got the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the sides, and I think that what

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<v Speaker 1>it feeds into there is that the sides who are

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<v Speaker 1>doing less keeping the ball more through the center field,

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<v Speaker 1>because let's face it, with the fast rucks in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, the defensive vulnerability is in around that middle.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can do a decoy play like not that

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<v Speaker 3>close to the line, but say that's in around midfield,

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<v Speaker 3>three runs targeting a big, slow middle forward and then

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<v Speaker 3>have your footwork come back through the middle. For example,

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis could turn a pass back inside for during buller.

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<v Speaker 3>You take advantage of guys have made three tackles in

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<v Speaker 3>a row twenty minutes at the end of their stint.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's another way where you sort of target someone

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<v Speaker 3>look like you're going away, but you can come back

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<v Speaker 3>through that middle.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some really crucial combinations starting to form with the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>The one two dummy half.

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<v Speaker 1>Punch of Da Silver and Appy Corus, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>Da Silver has been fantastic, But the other one, the

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<v Speaker 1>really big one.

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<v Speaker 2>Leui and Galvin.

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<v Speaker 1>On the weekend they took another step towards I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting to really find their football together and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a try.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Operating in tandem and the fact that Galvin takes them

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<v Speaker 1>on here right and you watch the numbers that gathers,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how seven and six should play. Lewis recognizes where.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball needs to go.

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<v Speaker 1>The line has been shortened right up I know where

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<v Speaker 1>it's got.

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<v Speaker 2>To get to, and that's seven and six.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson operating as a combination in the same play, still

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<v Speaker 1>operating as a combination.

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<v Speaker 3>The unspoken part about that, Yes, Galvin running and getting

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<v Speaker 3>the ball to the threat in the vulnerable area, but

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<v Speaker 3>the combination of Happy Chorus and Leui, that ability to

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<v Speaker 3>move the other side of the ruck but then still

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<v Speaker 3>pass back is not easy to do. That is because

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<v Speaker 3>they spent time penrith That is repetition at training, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is the reason why that happened. The ability for

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<v Speaker 3>Leui to recognize their short on the one side, but

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<v Speaker 3>then to be on the same page. How many times

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<v Speaker 3>do we see that and a ball hits a deck

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<v Speaker 3>or a dummy half turns around and just ends up

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<v Speaker 3>running the ball because he can't get the pass to

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<v Speaker 3>his half back. So, yes, good play, but I reckon

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<v Speaker 3>the understand of Corus how they're tremendous.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't talk about sharks in a second before we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins gone through a difficult period. But Isaiah katoa beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>little sequence on the weekend. If we just have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at this, coops and starts with the inside ball

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<v Speaker 1>like these are like a mirror play because he goes

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<v Speaker 1>inside on that little strain ball that's yu Blake's used

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<v Speaker 1>to call it. So he creates the dent, mate Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall key picks up, makes twenty meters. Now watch this

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<v Speaker 1>because first he's on that inside strain ball again, look

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little glance book out for the tunnel ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that little deception he just set, tiny little look in.

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<v Speaker 1>They just squeezed in the dolphins and made him vulnerable top.

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<v Speaker 3>End half back player. That's got rep play written all

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<v Speaker 3>over it. That is not something you just think of.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that you react to and practice over and over.

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<v Speaker 3>And the pass to throw the long ball the farm worth, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that is very difficult to do. Like the inside look

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<v Speaker 3>you know, condensed defenders and then throw a rocket pill

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<v Speaker 3>through the full back hit the.

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<v Speaker 2>Center like Isaiah is he twenty one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, early twenties, mate, And like that team is struggling

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, but that kid has a big future.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he just glimpses of what his half back player

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<v Speaker 3>has been over his start to his career. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>could cut it up and say like that is that's

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<v Speaker 3>a kid older than what.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been doing age, Yeah, he's producing pretty good players.

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland I think, yeah, yeah, the half back play great

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<v Speaker 3>way from cart but the Sharks, Maddie I thought. Craig

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<v Speaker 3>Fitzgibbon summed up what Trindle and Hines are after the

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<v Speaker 3>game tremendously well. There is a lot of noise around

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<v Speaker 3>Nico rightly wrongly. I don't particularly care. But if you've

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<v Speaker 3>got halves that have a team first mentality, a selfless

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<v Speaker 3>approach to the game, I'd take that halves pairing over

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<v Speaker 3>someone that wants to be dominant main man, wants to

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<v Speaker 3>win a deli and all those things. Because we've spoken

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<v Speaker 3>about this a thousand times when you and your brother

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<v Speaker 3>were playing, when I was playing with some different halves,

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<v Speaker 3>when one half is on the other one sits back

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<v Speaker 3>and says, you know what you go And then when

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<v Speaker 3>he's a little bit off and out one other one,

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<v Speaker 3>the other half steps up and takes control of the play.

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<v Speaker 3>What Trindle and Heines are doing right now that they

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<v Speaker 3>sit probably below the Peneriths Melbourne and Brisbane in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of recognition, but they're humming along beautifully underneath. And if

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<v Speaker 3>that halve's pairing can continue to do that, like Trindle

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<v Speaker 3>kicks two forty twenties. Nico Heines goes, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to step back a bit here, let Trindle go.

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<v Speaker 3>But then when the game's there, hind season opportunity goes, no,

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<v Speaker 3>give me the ball. I'm on, and then Trindle steps back.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a good operation because I remember when I

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<v Speaker 3>got to the Roosters. We struggled in twenty eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>I spent majority of my career sort of attacking a

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<v Speaker 3>three ind defender with the Bakraa and Billy Slater around.

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<v Speaker 3>Tried to get that same look at the Roosters, but

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<v Speaker 3>realized Kiri Tedesco they run east west quicker than most

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<v Speaker 3>players we had in the competition. I had to change.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to become a sort of a condensing of

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<v Speaker 3>the few middle defenders to create space for these guys

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<v Speaker 3>to play it off way more laterally, so my attacking

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<v Speaker 3>didn't actually end up on the edges. It became more

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the rock, creating space vi Kiri

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<v Speaker 3>and Tedesco to do it. So I really liked that

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<v Speaker 3>mindset what Trindle and Heindes are doing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like about the Sharks, and it took me

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<v Speaker 1>back to the really early days of the Melbourne Storm

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<v Speaker 1>eight ninety nine was at times it was almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a five man kick return, like with the Melbourne Storm

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<v Speaker 1>and those like ninety nine. You knocked the ball down

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<v Speaker 1>field and the centers would turn and their centers would

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<v Speaker 1>turn an end just sprint back and join a five

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<v Speaker 1>better return. I remember saying to Robbie Ross one two

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<v Speaker 1>was a fullback in the side, like, how do they

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<v Speaker 1>do that? And he goes, you know, like as far

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<v Speaker 1>as fitness and keep it up, he goes, yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 1>just got him at he that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>He tells him to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought the way they combined there was they

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<v Speaker 1>really worked well as a combination on kick returns. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the beauties like Row and Maltalo did a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of crackers on kick returns.

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<v Speaker 3>To explain why teams are getting plays back behind the

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<v Speaker 3>ball and kick chase is if the opposition kicks a

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<v Speaker 3>ball down and puts eleven players in the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>the poor old fullback is just running back against eleven players.

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<v Speaker 3>So the more you can get behind the footy, I

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<v Speaker 3>the wingers in the centers to put sort of doubt

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<v Speaker 3>in that defensive mind. And they did a number of times.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sharks of the weekend, their ability to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>isolate one on one users spoon acceleration. Yeah, very good,

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<v Speaker 3>very good.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing about the Sharks I've got coops is

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to see more killer about them. Like

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekend there was an opportunity for them to

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<v Speaker 1>really drive it home and the second half like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't boat the top teams. You can't win a

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<v Speaker 1>competition playing forty minute football. Hassen Carrigan Broncos. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen a better yardish combination. Has is just he is

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<v Speaker 1>having a phenomenal start of the season. In some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>it's save as shadow the fact that I think Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Carry is playing the best football of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But that you know, if you talk it like it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Has and what's become a trend in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, becurse of the speed and the rucks through

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<v Speaker 1>the middle is the small thirteen. Yeah, who's built like

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<v Speaker 1>a brick Shitthouse, low center of gravity, got good foot

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<v Speaker 1>spured and good footwork. In a lot of ways, pain

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<v Speaker 1>Has is that player, Like he has all those attributes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a big center of balance, he's fast, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got good footwork. The only difference he is his one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty kilos. He is just devastating at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like the Broncos have the perfect ingredients like powerful

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<v Speaker 3>forward pack, smart halves, athletic outside backs and when Paynehass

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<v Speaker 3>and Carrigan put it together. I'd love to be Onnam

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<v Speaker 3>Reynolds of Benhart because you're going to create momentum. And

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<v Speaker 3>we just spoke about with the Tigers. You could shift

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<v Speaker 3>to the to the outside, or you could play straight

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<v Speaker 3>back through the middle with Reese Walsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can actually you can sit there.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a guarantee, right, guarantee go forward, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could sit there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're working with the combination.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, listen, coops, after this play, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put this on because you know you're going to have momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, free Like Adam Reynolds could get really tricky with it,

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<v Speaker 3>like he could say Rono Carrigan and has just drive

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<v Speaker 3>two tackles around. I'd put re Swash out on the

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<v Speaker 3>far left hand side and as pain House starts carrying

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<v Speaker 3>the football, send Resquash all the way out the outside

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<v Speaker 3>back to my inside and look like you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>throw the ball out of the centers and just step

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<v Speaker 3>back in straight through the the middle. Forwards that have

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<v Speaker 3>to have back to back tackles on one Carrigan then

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<v Speaker 3>painhasse and then if you throw a dummy like you

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<v Speaker 3>go into the outside, they're going to clip. You go

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep for half a second through that middle. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>straight back through.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have some of the great artish combinations over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>personally contemporary one Brian Totter and Dylan Edwards. Yeah hard

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<v Speaker 1>when they go on one and two, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>the back end of those sets you've got Fisher, Harris

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<v Speaker 1>and Liota over the last four or five years. Go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time, a great one two punch used to

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<v Speaker 1>be Bradley Clyde Glenn Lazarus. Clyde would actually get back

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<v Speaker 1>behind the ball and take play twos and then you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have Laso later on in the set. Sarah and Blocker

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<v Speaker 1>were great, like Siro was just you know, this huge

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<v Speaker 1>man at the time, biggest guy in the league at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. He'd take the yards, play quick and then

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<v Speaker 1>Blocker would get on the right and Blocker had beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>soft hands and skill awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of Benny lies off the back of that too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the two you know you speak to people almost

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<v Speaker 1>of the half, the playmakers, the half and five a

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<v Speaker 1>for Balmain in those days was Blocker and Benny and

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<v Speaker 1>then mate, you've got and you look at it down

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day when you know, to see how

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney boys were flying, they win competitions. If you got

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<v Speaker 1>the three Burgess boys, you got George, Tom and Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have a look at that Grand Final, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and George working this combination. I usually thought George should

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<v Speaker 1>have got the Clyde Churchill medal, but that's for another day.

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<v Speaker 3>The only other sort of team that could match what

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<v Speaker 3>Edwards and Fisher Harrison Liota in time would be the

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<v Speaker 3>Broncos Lottie Takiri, Wendel sailor and put on the top

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<v Speaker 3>of that web ce Simla Seba. Yes, but that is

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<v Speaker 3>pure domination through the yardage game. Most games you play

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<v Speaker 3>and you talk about, you know, the Broncos set it up.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the tactics I found very interesting from the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 3>and part of the reason why they're three losses in

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<v Speaker 3>the row is their detail and ability to want to

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<v Speaker 3>defend and their fifth played defense, particularly Drinkwater on Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Reynolds and Ben Hunt. There was vision there. Ben Hunt

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<v Speaker 3>gets this kick right, It should have been perfect in

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<v Speaker 3>a triscoring situation, Drinkwater is out of position when you're

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<v Speaker 3>going into a game doing movements like this, sees bodies turned.

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<v Speaker 3>This is play three off a set tap. Adam Reynolds

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<v Speaker 3>has coordinated this to know that drink Water is not

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention. And if Ben Hunt gets this kick right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's try time. Drinkwater turned back. Eight is a space

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes for the kick. Here drink Water is

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<v Speaker 3>clocking off when he has to work, and it's hurting

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys at the moment. And there was another time

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit later with Adam Reynolds just straight through

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<v Speaker 3>drink Water here today. If there's one thing that Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Reynolds gets right when the fullbacks in the line is

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<v Speaker 3>the early kick. Drink Water missed that kick by a meter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because he didn't work early enough and fast enough

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<v Speaker 3>early on. So I think there's a couple of things

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<v Speaker 3>going wrong with the Cowboys at the moment. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to play against Adam Reynolds, one thing you

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<v Speaker 3>must do as a fullback is you've got to be

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<v Speaker 3>on in fifth player. He picked him apart.

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<v Speaker 1>On the weekend, he's kicking as beautiful on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of those players. Dally chi Evens is another one.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it again against the Raiders weeks well.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets like those two blokes.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them sometimes wander the line, particularly Daly, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes it almost puts them. They put himself sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in a culder sack, but they still find the right kick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ruthless, it's relentless. But with your kicking game as

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<v Speaker 3>a halfback, if the open position have a chink in

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<v Speaker 3>the armor and they show you a queue to it

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<v Speaker 3>early on, you just keep going back to it daily.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Evans did it against the Raiders. Big kick, last play,

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<v Speaker 3>footsteps down, drop ball, except big kick, footsteps that. It

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<v Speaker 3>just kept coming. It's very effective. And when you come

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<v Speaker 3>up against a smart halfback and you spill the ball

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<v Speaker 3>or you're out of position, you better fix it quickly

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise are going to keep coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were a lot better, a lot better. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh and three yeah manly before we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and par and a straight talk made manly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very a very manly performance. Again, back home

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<v Speaker 2>put Raiders to the sword.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. So for twenty the first twenty minutes they had

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<v Speaker 3>an ample amount of possession and struggle to score points.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the sinbin happened and they just turn it on.

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<v Speaker 3>When Manly get hot. They are white hot compared to

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<v Speaker 3>some teams. Terry Evans outstanding, Ola Clartu intimidatingly scary. But

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<v Speaker 3>again I think the Perseca injury is a big thing

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<v Speaker 3>for me only Yeah, I did too, Like they have

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<v Speaker 3>the best attack in the comp when they put it together.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they want to beat Brisbane, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>need a big forward pack to stop carrygan at Haas

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<v Speaker 3>they want to beat Melbourne, they're going to need someone

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<v Speaker 3>to stop Nelson and utah Wa Kamano and losing Prosecca

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<v Speaker 3>is going to go a long way to hurting that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just from that you just said about Nelson dispartment memory

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<v Speaker 1>and then I too.

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<v Speaker 2>Really impressed me the other night was Jack Cole.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what really impressed me.

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<v Speaker 1>About him was how he was able to on the

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<v Speaker 1>run almost correct his game when Nathan went off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see he was trying to play the Nathan role.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the sequences while he was getting a cross

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<v Speaker 1>field dum mean and yeah, those players that those little

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<v Speaker 1>shows that Nathan do that look very simple and basically

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<v Speaker 1>you see when Jack did it, he just wasn't comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and wasn't threatening. And then you know, about ten to fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in. You can see him just go no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>And play the way that I play. And when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider coops, you know it's fourteen nil. When Nathan leaves

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<v Speaker 1>the field, he has to take control.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Isaiah, Oh, Isaiahah was enormous again, but also

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<v Speaker 1>Blaze come on, Blaze to Langy. It come on at six.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like he had a six alongside him

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<v Speaker 1>who could help with the organization. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>him and Isaiah that they were having to control all things.

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah was the coming six, if you want to put

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<v Speaker 3>it that way. Like his touches went through the roof

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<v Speaker 3>his organization, just through when he decided to pass, run

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<v Speaker 3>and play out the back. But I really like what

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<v Speaker 3>Cole did, Like this was probably an opportunity where he

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<v Speaker 3>could have got stage fright and gone, oh my Maine

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<v Speaker 3>man's out, but he simplified it he ran the football,

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<v Speaker 3>he got involved and he actually showed some signs that

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, actually this kid might have something at

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<v Speaker 3>the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenkins full back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And you know this is what we spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about this last week. This young you know, the young

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<v Speaker 1>Penrith side went to Manly against a strong Manly side

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<v Speaker 1>in the trials, had four points park and put him

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<v Speaker 1>to the sword.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the strength of the system.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also like to win a competition, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to have a good club, not just good players in

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<v Speaker 3>your seventeen a good club club. I've done it four

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<v Speaker 3>years and it doesn't look like it's going to stop

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<v Speaker 3>any time. Man, they like with Nathan going off and

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<v Speaker 3>everything that happening, like Melbourne were looking good, like they

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<v Speaker 3>could have easily ran away with that. But somehow, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it was Melbourne taking a foot off or actually Penis

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling a little bit back, you can't do anything but

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<v Speaker 3>tip your cap to what Penith?

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<v Speaker 1>What did the other MEAs how filthy Bellyac would have

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<v Speaker 1>been afterwards, because for him it would have been an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to strike a psychological blow. But now it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably the other way, I'd say Ivan would

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<v Speaker 1>have went away and go, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this sort of competition between these two this right, Valry,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be around for a bit and particularly

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<v Speaker 3>this year they're going to play again and again again.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about Rovalry beauty from the eighties and mate, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this game yesterday, Dogs versus Power.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I really enjoyable better Power were better. Power

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<v Speaker 2>were better, a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Zachlomax, what thirty two carries in football? Still a few

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<v Speaker 1>defensive things is renowned for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And thirty carries in the season, that's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Brief yourself. But I thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the momentum they got in that second half,

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<v Speaker 1>they could smell that they could get a win. But

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people have gone with the Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 1>gone oh, it was pretty good informced by Bulldogs. I

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<v Speaker 1>think totally the opposite. You go into games sometimes coops,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to win ugly or you have to

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to find a way to win when the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition is dictate, dictating the terms of the contest.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've all been.

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<v Speaker 1>In those games where you're going to halftime, you're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>quite comfortable. For whatever reason, you come out in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half the energy goes out of football and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>The opposition climb and start going through the roof. And

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<v Speaker 1>particularly yesterday, Paramount sense they could pull off an upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when you've been around the game for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, you get a gut fill. And I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>the game yesterday going Paramo going to piece this for

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<v Speaker 1>all their effort, but the dogs won. The dogs hanging there,

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<v Speaker 1>they defended their asses off and they got the win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the difference between the top four years and missing out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Sireldo would have liked the way that

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<v Speaker 3>his team put the overalls on and one ugly to

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<v Speaker 3>put it simple, what do you make of Brown?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through a mind gown at the moment, A

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<v Speaker 1>lot's been set about Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot has been set.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about it is because of that contract. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>if this contract's not around, he probably doesn't get the airtime.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's relevant, Coops.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no doubt people predicted when he's sign the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes with a degree of pressure, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that outside expectation is one of the most difficult

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<v Speaker 1>things to deal with. And I'm looking at Dylan at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. My advice to Dylan would be this is

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<v Speaker 1>that Just just play, Just play Dylan Brown football, get

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<v Speaker 1>back to Berne. Just be a run of the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't actually start to think, you know, or start to

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<v Speaker 1>try to play the football that you think Newcastle need

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<v Speaker 1>from you twelve months down the track. You know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about trying to finesse, don't worry about trying to

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>push the side around the park. You just go out

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<v Speaker 1>and play to your strengths. You know, at the end

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of the day, I can see that's just weighing on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Coops.

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<v Speaker 3>How would you unlock that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Coops, how I would unlock it?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that at the moment because of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact there's no Mitchell Moses and you can't. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to move a Dylan Brown out of the halves

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<v Speaker 1>because they're short on halves.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though I thought Dean Hawkins was good on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that if I'm Jason Rowles, I'm thinking about moving

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<v Speaker 1>moving him into thirteen just to then neck tie him

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<v Speaker 1>to how he should play, you know, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>think at the moment, I think at the moment, with

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<v Speaker 1>all the expectation and the pressure, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>think playing in the halves is weighing.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavily on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think going back to playing eight, Dylan, you're playing thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get it there, run the football mate, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, Dylan's got to

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<v Speaker 1>consider this is that the Knights signed Dylan Brown, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you just play Dylan Brown football. If later next year,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens, whatever they need from you next year, or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want to work you into, that's up to

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<v Speaker 1>the nights. But at this point, just going back to

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<v Speaker 1>play Dylan Brown football.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's an out for Roles to move

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<v Speaker 3>him to thirteen and say, simplify the way around the

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:51.880
<v Speaker 3>outside noise. He needs his best players playing their best football.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a team that's under immense pressure and he can

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<v Speaker 3>put it together. Go watch some highlights of when you're great, like,

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<v Speaker 3>get some mojo back in your play. The interesting part

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<v Speaker 3>for me is what does Roles and the Eels do

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<v Speaker 3>if they're two and six, are thre eight weeks or worse,

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<v Speaker 3>no wins? Do they think about next year? Dylan Brown's

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<v Speaker 3>not in there next year, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I thought about that when he signed. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>if this season goes continues to get bad for Paramount

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<v Speaker 1>and you get two thirds of the way through the season, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, well, it's what do they do? Do? They decide

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<v Speaker 2>to experiment?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Mitch's team. Bring Mitch comes back hopefully sometime soon,

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<v Speaker 3>and you start working with those combinations are going to

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<v Speaker 3>help you be a better team in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you like doing hooks, Yeah, like you just work around.

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<v Speaker 3>There's certain things that some halfbacks have to do, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but one of the main things that you need to do,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you're bought there to set up try and score them,

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<v Speaker 3>is have a good kicking game and make your tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's so simple. Just because you're half back doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean you don't have to push away the other parts

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. And he's got a decent kicking game,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a bigger body, but make sure you do that

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<v Speaker 3>first and then start creating space. Like obviously it's difficult

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<v Speaker 3>because Dylan Brown's there as well, but you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>a bit about the same thing, like, just do the fundamentals. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>but the question is that is that going to win

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<v Speaker 3>you the game on the weekend? Maybe not, might win

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<v Speaker 3>you the game in a couple weeks if you get

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<v Speaker 3>better at it. But yeah, they've got interesting little period

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<v Speaker 3>coming up to the eels.

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<v Speaker 1>And keep you want to do a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dally M thing?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you got thing for three rounds? Give me

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<v Speaker 3>your top three? Who do you think come Dallym Night

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Three so far this season? My three best players in

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<v Speaker 1>the first three rounds. Paine Hass it's a no brainer. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>miss player, I've got two or may. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a revelation for the Tigers. He's proven to be

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of signing. And number three. There's a number

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<v Speaker 1>of players like Munster and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone Kaylen Ponger.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it his best on the weekend, but he's first

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<v Speaker 1>to his first two rounds performers were pretty special.

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<v Speaker 3>I got I got a four. Is going to win

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<v Speaker 3>the de.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>my initial pick was Fanilla Blake my reason. Yeah, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he just keeps getting better, Yeah, doesn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>You know how old would Isaiah be now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got three in front of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Three? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing about it is, I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the right term here. You don't get more stupid. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the right way to say That's a stupid way

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. You know, maybe it's perfect, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you don't lose your intelligence as you get older

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<v Speaker 1>in football, the thing that disappears is your athleticism, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's and for Isaiah, he's watching the way he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting smarter and smarter the way he uses his

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<v Speaker 1>players as far as direction is concerned, and crucially, he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't a lot lost, hasn't lost a first step speed

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<v Speaker 1>oring like that.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at who's going to win the Deli

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<v Speaker 3>and we think a team are going to win a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more than they lose, and those Harry Grant's crucial.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's an opportunity for Harry Grant to really

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<v Speaker 3>dominate because most people talk about Jerome Hues and Monster

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<v Speaker 3>and now that Nelson and Stefano were there a good

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<v Speaker 3>little one two punch for Rock Chaos, Parry Grant might

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<v Speaker 3>be very influential this year. And Isaiah just touches the

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<v Speaker 3>ball more than any other thirteen in the game. And

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan's health is question at different stages, but he is

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<v Speaker 3>rock solid and I think pei win a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, Coops, just I should have said you don't

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<v Speaker 1>lose your intelligence rather than you don't come more stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid thing to say.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a stupid thing to say from mischief.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell Scott you just cut that out and replace it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just keep it in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do. This is the magic you television. Just cut it,

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<v Speaker 2>just go. I'll tell you what, Coops, Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing, as you get older, you don't lose your intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you say most stupid? Mm hmmmmmm