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Speaker 3: What's required at the moment, as opposed to just playing

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Speaker 2: As opposed to go and let's take three to the

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Speaker 1: Four, it's more like go forward, go forward, and then

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Speaker 2: Tiger is the best example, and we spoke about them

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Speaker 1: They started the game coops that every time they got

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Speaker 2: They just go sideways.

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Speaker 1: They pushed the ball at the edge, they get excited

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Speaker 1: When toroll May goes forward and creates a momentum, hey

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Speaker 2: It's going to make us more dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at some of this what I'm

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Speaker 2: His may, he's just been enormous. He goes forward.

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Speaker 1: Let's not go sideways yet, yeah, bird, he goes forward,

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Speaker 3: It's scored points afterwards, just in a simple form like

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Speaker 3: One you ford momentum to shift, or you shift to

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Speaker 3: And you can do a decoy play like not that

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Speaker 3: So there's another way where you sort of target someone

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Speaker 1: There's some really crucial combinations starting to form with the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Nico rightly wrongly. I don't particularly care. But if you've

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Speaker 1: Has is that player, Like he has all those attributes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the Broncos have the perfect ingredients like powerful

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Speaker 2: Like you can actually you can sit there.

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Speaker 3: The only other sort of team that could match what

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Speaker 3: it's try time. Drinkwater turned back. Eight is a space

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Speaker 1: On the weekend, he's kicking as beautiful on the weekend.

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Speaker 3: He did it again against the Raiders weeks well.

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Speaker 2: He gets like those two blokes.

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Speaker 1: I see them sometimes wander the line, particularly Daly, and

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Speaker 3: It's ruthless, it's relentless. But with your kicking game as

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Speaker 3: Jerry Evans did it against the Raiders. Big kick, last play,

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Speaker 3: just kept coming. It's very effective. And when you come

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Speaker 1: Cowboys were a lot better, a lot better. But yes,

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Speaker 2: It was very a very manly performance. Again, back home

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Speaker 3: When Manly get hot. They are white hot compared to

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Speaker 1: Just from that you just said about Nelson dispartment memory

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Speaker 2: And play the way that I play. And when you.

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Speaker 1: He and Isaiah, Oh, Isaiahah was enormous again, but also

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Speaker 1: Blaze come on, Blaze to Langy. It come on at six.

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Speaker 3: you know what, actually this kid might have something at

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Speaker 2: Jenkins full back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And you know this is what we spoke

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Speaker 2: It's the strength of the system.

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Speaker 3: And it's also like to win a competition, you need

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Speaker 3: years and it doesn't look like it's going to stop

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Speaker 3: any time. Man, they like with Nathan going off and

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Speaker 3: everything that happening, like Melbourne were looking good, like they

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Speaker 3: tip your cap to what Penith?

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Speaker 1: What did the other MEAs how filthy Bellyac would have

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Speaker 3: This is this sort of competition between these two this right, Valry,

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Speaker 1: Talking about Rovalry beauty from the eighties and mate, I

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Speaker 2: I just I really enjoyable better Power were better. Power

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Speaker 1: Zachlomax, what thirty two carries in football? Still a few

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Speaker 3: And thirty carries in the season, that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Brief yourself. But I thought that.

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Speaker 1: think totally the opposite. You go into games sometimes coops,

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Speaker 2: And we've all been.

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Speaker 1: In those games where you're going to halftime, you're feeling

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you've been around the game for

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Speaker 1: the game yesterday going Paramo going to piece this for

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Speaker 1: all their effort, but the dogs won. The dogs hanging there,

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Speaker 1: That's the difference between the top four years and missing out.

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Speaker 3: And I think Sireldo would have liked the way that

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Speaker 3: put it simple, what do you make of Brown?

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Speaker 1: I'm going through a mind gown at the moment, A

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Speaker 1: lot's been set about Dylan.

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Speaker 2: A lot has been set.

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Speaker 3: We talk about it is because of that contract. Right,

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Speaker 3: But it's relevant, Coops.

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt people predicted when he's sign the contract.

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Speaker 1: that Just just play, Just play Dylan Brown football, get

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Speaker 1: Don't actually start to think, you know, or start to

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Speaker 1: and play to your strengths. You know, at the end

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Speaker 2: Coops.

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Speaker 3: How would you unlock that?

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Speaker 2: Well, Coops, how I would unlock it?

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Speaker 1: You can't do that at the moment because of the

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Speaker 1: hard to move a Dylan Brown out of the halves

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Speaker 1: because they're short on halves.

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Speaker 2: Even though I thought Dean Hawkins was good on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Is that if I'm Jason Rowles, I'm thinking about moving

442
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Speaker 1: moving him into thirteen just to then neck tie him

443
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Speaker 1: to how he should play, you know, because I just

444
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Speaker 1: think at the moment, I think at the moment, with

445
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Speaker 1: all the expectation and the pressure, I don't think I

446
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Speaker 1: think playing in the halves is weighing.

447
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 2: Heavily on him.

448
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Speaker 1: I think going back to playing eight, Dylan, you're playing thirteen.

449
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Speaker 2: Just get it there, run the football mate, you know.

450
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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Dylan's got to

451
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Speaker 1: consider this is that the Knights signed Dylan Brown, Right,

452
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Speaker 1: you just play Dylan Brown football. If later next year,

453
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Speaker 1: whatever happens, whatever they need from you next year, or

454
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Speaker 1: whatever they want to work you into, that's up to

455
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Speaker 1: the nights. But at this point, just going back to

456
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Speaker 1: play Dylan Brown football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's an out for Roles to move

458
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: him to thirteen and say, simplify the way around the

459
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: outside noise. He needs his best players playing their best football.

460
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Speaker 3: There's a team that's under immense pressure and he can

461
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: put it together. Go watch some highlights of when you're great, like,

462
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: get some mojo back in your play. The interesting part

463
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Speaker 3: for me is what does Roles and the Eels do

464
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: if they're two and six, are thre eight weeks or worse,

465
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Speaker 3: no wins? Do they think about next year? Dylan Brown's

466
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: not in there next year, how.

467
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Do you do that?

468
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I thought about that when he signed. I thought,

469
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Speaker 1: if this season goes continues to get bad for Paramount

470
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: and you get two thirds of the way through the season, you.

471
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Speaker 2: Say, well, it's what do they do? Do? They decide

472
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: to experiment?

473
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Speaker 3: This is Mitch's team. Bring Mitch comes back hopefully sometime soon,

474
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: and you start working with those combinations are going to

475
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Speaker 3: help you be a better team in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you like doing hooks, Yeah, like you just work around.

477
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: There's certain things that some halfbacks have to do, right,

478
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: but one of the main things that you need to do,

479
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 3: whether you're bought there to set up try and score them,

480
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: is have a good kicking game and make your tackles.

481
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: Like it's so simple. Just because you're half back doesn't

482
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: mean you don't have to push away the other parts

483
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: of the game. And he's got a decent kicking game,

484
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: he's a bigger body, but make sure you do that

485
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: first and then start creating space. Like obviously it's difficult

486
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: because Dylan Brown's there as well, but you know it's

487
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: a bit about the same thing, like, just do the fundamentals. Well,

488
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 3: but the question is that is that going to win

489
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: you the game on the weekend? Maybe not, might win

490
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: you the game in a couple weeks if you get

491
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: better at it. But yeah, they've got interesting little period

492
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: coming up to the eels.

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Speaker 1: And keep you want to do a bit of a

494
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: dally M thing?

495
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: What do you got thing for three rounds? Give me

496
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: your top three? Who do you think come Dallym Night

497
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: is going to be?

498
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Well? Okay?

499
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: Three so far this season? My three best players in

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Speaker 1: the first three rounds. Paine Hass it's a no brainer. Second,

501
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: miss player, I've got two or may. I think he's

502
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: been a revelation for the Tigers. He's proven to be

503
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: some sort of signing. And number three. There's a number

504
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: of players like Munster and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: I've gone Kaylen Ponger.

506
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Speaker 1: Wasn't it his best on the weekend, but he's first

507
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: to his first two rounds performers were pretty special.

508
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: I got I got a four. Is going to win

509
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: the de.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think at the end of the

511
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: my initial pick was Fanilla Blake my reason. Yeah, yeah, man,

512
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: he just keeps getting better, Yeah, doesn't he?

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Speaker 2: You know how old would Isaiah be now.

514
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: He's got three in front of him.

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Speaker 2: Three? Yeah.

516
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Speaker 1: Because the thing about it is, I'm trying to get

517
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Speaker 1: the right term here. You don't get more stupid. Is

518
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: that the right way to say That's a stupid way

519
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: to say it. You know, maybe it's perfect, but you

520
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: don't you don't lose your intelligence as you get older

521
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: in football, the thing that disappears is your athleticism, you know,

522
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: and that's and for Isaiah, he's watching the way he plays.

523
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: He's getting smarter and smarter the way he uses his

524
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: players as far as direction is concerned, and crucially, he

525
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: hasn't a lot lost, hasn't lost a first step speed

526
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: oring like that.

527
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: When you look at who's going to win the Deli

528
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: and we think a team are going to win a

529
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 3: lot more than they lose, and those Harry Grant's crucial.

530
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: I think there's an opportunity for Harry Grant to really

531
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Speaker 3: dominate because most people talk about Jerome Hues and Monster

532
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: and now that Nelson and Stefano were there a good

533
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: little one two punch for Rock Chaos, Parry Grant might

534
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: be very influential this year. And Isaiah just touches the

535
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: ball more than any other thirteen in the game. And

536
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: Nathan's health is question at different stages, but he is

537
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: rock solid and I think pei win a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: This year, Coops, just I should have said you don't

539
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: lose your intelligence rather than you don't come more stupid,

540
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: stupid thing to say.

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Speaker 3: It's a stupid thing to say from mischief.

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Speaker 2: We'll just cut it.

543
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: I'll tell Scott you just cut that out and replace it.

544
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Speaker 3: Just keep it in there.

545
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: We'll do. This is the magic you television. Just cut it,

546
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Speaker 2: just go. I'll tell you what, Coops, Isaiah.

547
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Speaker 1: One thing, as you get older, you don't lose your intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Can you say most stupid? Mm hmmmmmm