WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 23 June 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:05.240 From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.479 Thank you girl, walking to our brand new weekend for 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.239 the most fight up show on Tilly. Glad that you 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.000 hear it. So you may have heard big news this 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.920 afternoon in Adelaide. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.720 To breaking news and in scenes echoing the Bondi Junction attacks, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.200 reports of an armed man has sent an Adelaide shopping 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.520 center into lockdown. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.239 Where a Westfield shopping center in the city South has 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.040 just been released from lockdown. Shoppers were alerted to an 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.040 armed defender, resulting in crowds running for the exits, others 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.240 forced to take shelter inside. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.280 A major shopping center in Adelaide South was put into 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.000 lockdown this afternoon after two groups of boys started fighting 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:43.960 in the food court. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.440 Scary stuff, right. Some of the people who spoke to 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.760 the media in the immediate panic. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.320 I think they said something about David Jones and weapons 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.560 being used if you could find an exit and get 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:56.680 out safely to do so. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.600 We just had everybody like screaming and stuff, and we 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.840 just saw like a couple of people running and they're 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.040 so me and me and my friend we just run through. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.640 And then everyone just started running at us. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.119 To the exit door, and. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.600 Yeah, just so people were screaming at us to like, yeah, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:12.119 run out. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.600 They're extremely, extremely worried and concerned. They don't know what's 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.200 going on. We've had to update them through the. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.440 Phone and just let them know that it's okay and 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.960 just to stay calm, and that's the best. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.080 We can do. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.480 We've just hope that nobody's done anything really silly that 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.400 they're going to regret for the rest of their lives. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.800 So obvious concern family members watching stuff on Telly, hearing 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.640 it on the radio, game Gee, what's going on? Is 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.959 this bond Ei two point zero? Well, thankfully not. In fact, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.640 the police a couple of hours after all of it 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.760 started came out and said that this was basically a 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.080 fight between teenagers in the food court. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.760 In terms of the incident, I have looked at the CCTV. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.520 It involves three youth and I will call them boys 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.480 under eighteen years of a Caucasian appear pearance. They approach 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:07.800 another group of boys and an altercation occurs. The expandable 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.200 batons are seen and at this stage we can't discount 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.920 any other weapons, but we do have some reports that 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.320 a knife may be involved. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.040 Okay, So here's the bit where I'm going to probably 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.200 get into trouble if we learn something in the next 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.120 twenty four hours that is different than what the police 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.519 had told us today, or more than happily reverse my 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.520 position and eat my words. And I understand why the 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.880 shopping center that had been at the heart of things 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.000 that had taken place the same brand of course in Sydney, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.120 wanted to react with full force. Now again, I'm not 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.120 suggesting that if you were in the food court it 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.519 is not a scary experience to see teenagers fighting. I'm 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.120 not pretending that I'd like to get whacked with a 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.680 baton anytime soon. But very obviously this was not, as 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.040 best as we know, some sort of mass event where 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.280 random members of the public were being targeted. This was 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.400 part of the response of the police. Now remember, yes, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.200 perhaps the early calls were someone with a weapon is 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:09.480 running around the shopping center. They're running in with machine guns. Now, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.160 better safe than sorry is probably the right place to be. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.679 But can we go back and play all of those 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.720 people who were talking to the media, because their panic 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.480 is obvious, they don't know what's going on. They could 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.040 think that people are running around with guns thankfully it 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.280 was the police that were responding to this situation. And 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:33.080 I'm sitting here comfortably being able to say what I 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.360 think should and shouldn't have happened. But to me, this 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.600 could have been dealt with by local security before we 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:38.760 start calling in the cops. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:39.040 Right. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.880 Yet, the panic or dore I say, potential overreaction, well, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.240 that in and of itself creates its own sense of fear. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.920 Again that people who spoke to the media today. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.080 I think they said something about David Jones and weapons 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.320 being used if you could find an exit and get 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:55.720 out safely to do so. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.360 We just had everybody like screaming and stuff, and we 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.280 just saw a couple of people running and so me, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.560 me and my friend we just run. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.760 Through and everyone just started running at us to the 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.600 exit door. And yeah, so people were screaming at us 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:10.880 to like, yeah, run out. 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.360 They're extremely, extremely worried and concerned. They don't know what's 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.880 going on. We've had to update them through. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.080 The phone and just let them know that it's okay 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.560 and just to stay calm, and that's the best we 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:22.800 can do. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.240 We've just hope that nobody's done anything really silly that 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.159 they're going to regret for the rest of their lives. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.360 So again, I don't imagine for a second what it's 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.919 like to be the security guards, the police officers, or 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:39.000 the people inside the shopping center. But obviously security should 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.680 have been able to respond to this. Perhaps this is 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.320 one of those moments where one of the things that 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.839 we should have learned out of BONDI was that a 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.120 security guard should have more than just a walkie talking 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.320 to respond to certain situations. Not suggesting that all of 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.200 them need to have guns, but I am suggesting that 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.080 perhaps the security manager should have access to things like 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.920 pepper spray, something to be able to de escalate a situation, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.080 because there's a whole bunch of other emotions that are 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.960 connected when police start running around not knowing what they're 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.599 responding to, but still they're running around with machine guns. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.320 Is that in part because of an over militarized police 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.480 force where every government gives them more money and more 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:20.200 powers to respond to potential threats. Perhaps if I got 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.640 the wrong end of the stick here, I'll gladly own 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.560 it tomorrow, But it felt like today this was one 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.240 of those moments where a better armed security force would 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.120 have been able to deal with this. As opposed to 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.239 the mass panic that went out across much of suburban 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.680 Adelaide today. But speaking of the Westfield Centers and the 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:41.159 Bondai Center, which of course resulted in people's deaths a 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:46.719 couple of months ago. Well, as you remember, the person 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.360 who became an absolute focus of hate was this bloke 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.479 we don't use his name. The person who, of course 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.440 we turned around in love is this person, Police Inspector 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.719 Amy Scott. She wasn't meant to be in that area, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.720 she wasn't part of the overall response. Instead wandered to it, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.359 and she's the one who, of course, as you know, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.599 I ended up firing the fatal shot, thankfully put the 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.599 bloke down and ended the situation. Well, she's been given 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.880 the first of what I would imagine as many Bravery awards, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.960 and rightly so. But the reason I mentioned her at 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.320 the start of tonight's show is because we actually got 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.719 to hear her speak. Now. Obviously it's her choice not 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.000 to give interviews, it's her choice to try to not be, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.400 as she said on Friday, to be defined by this moment. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.200 But I do want to hear from her, and I 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.080 do want you to hear what she had to say. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.160 This in part is what she had to say. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.920 I don't want people to forget how incredible they were 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.240 on that day. And you are only as strong as 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.080 the people around you. And that goes for my incredible 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.640 family and friends. After that, the other first responders both 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.440 at the scene and at the hospitals, and the extraordinary 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.279 acts of bravery that we saw from everyday civilians. It 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.280 was second to none. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.599 She represents the best of us and the best of 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.240 people who run towards trouble when the rest of us 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.040 will calmly walk away from it. She like every other 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.120 police officer, and you know, we're very pro police on 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.440 this program, which is that they are people who they 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.200 intersect with people at their worst possible time and their 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.520 worst possible days. But she is right, we are as 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.119 strong as the people around her. It is not fun 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.400 to have gone through what she has. It's a traumatic 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.600 experience for any officer who's had to pull a gun, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:22.960 let alone pull the trigger. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.960 She had more to say, really importantly as well, are 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:31.680 those victims. They're family and friends who will be forever 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.720 dealing with an unfathomable tragedy. So it's really important for 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.240 me to keep those people at the forefront of everything, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.440 and that's where they are. For me, They're always on 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:41.960 my mind. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.840 Now we've got little gold medals for people who did 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.440 immense harm like Daniel Andrews. Let's find little gold medals 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.560 for people who stop harm and end up doing good 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.120 as a result of preventing that harm. Strength and love, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.040 Toney World under you for being able to have the 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.840 strength to talk about it as she did this weekend. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.520 Now you may have heard by now the Opposition has 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:09.640 a plan to change where our power comes from nuclear Now, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.160 I always mispronounced it. I apologize. I'm Bogan to my 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.280 core and I practice and practice and practice, but I 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.560 always end up saying it the wrong way. So I apologize. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.920 But we get now the first poll which actually tells 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.000 us how people feel about Dutton's plan. This would of 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:28.800 course be zero emissions in terms of the climate care issues, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.520 but obviously it costs a lot of money to make. Well, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.280 here's the poll, let's have a look. Here comes out 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.880 tonight via the channel on newspaper City Morning, Herald of 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.199 the Age and the Brisbane Times. Forty one percent of 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.920 people say yes, thirty seven percent of people say no, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.240 and up for grabs twenty two percent of people. Now, 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.080 this is going to be fascinating because it shows that 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.320 this is a winnable argument for both sides. Is it 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.720 going to be fear and memes that get their first story? 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.480 Is it going to be the twenty first century is calling? 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.640 And this is the same source of energy where places 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.640 like France, cities like Paris are able to keep the 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.719 lights on to host things like Olympic Games. Oh yeah, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.240 the same by the way, when it comes to Los 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.240 Angeles and California. But it might of course be the 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.000 case for Griusblane twenty thirty two if the current government 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.400 is in place, But it will be should it be 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.559 Peter Dutton who is the Prime minister going into those 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.120 Olympic Games in Queensland. As you can see, fifty one 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.720 percent of Labor voters no, sixty percent of Coalition voters yes, 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.200 fifty one percent of Greens voters are no. But really 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.839 interesting to see that twenty two percent of people are unshort. Now, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.240 remember we were looking at Poles when it was allegedly 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.840 sixty forty in favor of yes when it came to 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.800 the voice. Now, it is always easier to be on 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.080 the no side of a case, if you want to 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.080 ram ram ram, you can say many things against a 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.760 policy rather than advocacy of a policy. And I think 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.560 we're starting to see a sort of a revenge of 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.560 the voice that is coming out of the federal government 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.560 and trying to get back as if they were the 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.480 opposition to the opposition, as opposed to the government needing 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:08.160 to justify their own policies. Here but wait, watch and 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.600 see twenty two percent still up for grabs. We will 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.560 find out as the week's roll on who is winning 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.360 that debate, because I think who wins it quickly is 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:16.760 going to be the one who ends up winning it 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.200 in the end. Now, of course, it doesn't really matter 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.800 whether fifty one or fifty five or sixty percent of 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.439 Australia likes something or doesn't like something. It's about how 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.520 it plays in one hundred and fifty one different little 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.640 elections within elections that, of course, we are due towards 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.000 the end of this year or early next year. As 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.520 for direct propositions about renewables versus nuclear power, here we go. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.200 The red here is that Labour wants to get to 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.720 renewables and the Coalition wants to go for the nuclear option. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.560 Forty three percent of people are in favor of Labour's position. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.280 That means, of course that even if you started to 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.760 cut in half the number of undecideds, then clearly that 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.480 ends up in favor of the Labor Party. Again, regardless 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.080 of whether you like the policy or don't. I try 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.400 to show you the data so you know where it 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.000 comes from. Course that is helped by a huge result 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.480 in Green's voters and Labor voters. What is missing, of 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.599 course from some of this data is how do the 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.200 people who don't vote for major parties, How does it 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.840 go state by state? What's it like in the cities 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.959 versus the bush, because that will give us more information 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.040 about what is actually going to happen when it comes 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.520 to the potential political consequences. Now, people are basically asked 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.800 to rate out of one hundred percent the types of 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.720 energy that they are most comfortable with. An extreme majority 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.320 of people are completely in love with the concept of 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.520 solar panels on their roof feeding into a battery, meaning 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.800 they essentially get to cut themselves off from the rest 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.719 of the grid. The best part of what eighty eight 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.640 percent of people, according to the same pole, say that 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.480 that is the number one and preferred form of energy. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.640 After that you get hydro electricity. Now, of course we 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.120 know that snowy two point zero could be costing what 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.440 how many billion dollars more, but still people seem to 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.600 like the idea renewables in general. Then we keep going 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.120 down the road to a solo farms about fifty percent, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.600 home batteries under fifty percent gas powered, as well as 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.440 wind turbines. Wind turbines are really low compared to a 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.400 solar and we all know because of the impacts that 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.120 happen on the land that we're getting now down to 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.400 thirty four percent when it comes to things that the 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.480 government is actually getting over the line at the moment 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.600 when it comes to say, offshore wind farms, nuclear just 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.120 an eight percent and then cole way back at two percent. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.360 But I'm surprised that the numbers were even that high 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.960 for the alternative prime minister's position because the same newspaper, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:37.599 the same news organization has been going wild with the 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.440 number of articles and opinion pieces and cartoons that day 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.720 after day after day after day after day they have 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.920 been giving very heavy firepower to the Labor Party. These 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.280 are just some of the cartoons that make him a 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.920 Soviet style leader. Or there he is glum looking like 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.280 mister Nuclear in front of little old renewables elbow there. Apparently, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.439 of course gas and renewables aren't part of the Duton 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.880 planned the fact that we know they are. Otherwise he's 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.200 presented as a clown. Or if that's all too subtle 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.319 for you, he's a bomber who's literally dropping nuclear bombs 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.880 onto solar panels, just in case they aren't subtle enough 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.440 for you. And as I say, story after the story 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.360 after the story after story after story, we all know 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.120 where they are. That's fine. They're independent always apart from 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.240 the fact that you can't find anyone back in what 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.240 in their own poll, a significant number of people are 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.360 open too, and that is not an all renewables future. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.400 We even get the cartoon of him as Homer Simpson 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.560 looking stupid, and that's of course because he's balled, you see, 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.640 so he's looking stupid. Apparently he's fat, no i am, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.160 And for some reason there's a melting ice cream just 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.960 to make their point nice and clear. And this is 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.760 where we get to when I so often have talked 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.760 about the difference between news and narrative, Now clearly on 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.480 this program. This is a comment based program. But also 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.839 during this significant portion of the show where I give 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.400 my comment, it is behovin on me to try to 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.840 give you dar to try to show you things like 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.480 poles you may agree or disagree with. Try to show 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.480 you things from the Bureau Statistics, try to show you 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.480 things from the CSIRO, and then watch all of the 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.240 politics around it. And you may disagree with the politics 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.000 that is around it or the comment that I put 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.280 on it. But I try to start from this agreed 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.640 place of a piece of data. For that said, though 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.520 the Opposition leader was at a Liberal Party conference this 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.280 weekend pushing the barrow, the. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.760 Coalition's energy policy will see Australia achieve our three goals 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:35.640 of cheaper, cleaner and consistent power. In the more immediate term, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.720 we will ramp up domestic gas production to get power 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.640 prices down and to restore stability in the grid. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.840 Surprisingly, Anthony Abernezi, while not responding to the speech, we 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.080 know how he feels about it. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.560 I mean, this is just a fantasy. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.640 Instead of snow White and the seven Dwarves, this is 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:01.640 Peter Dutton, the seven nuclear reactors. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.160 See what I mean that the revenge for the voice. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.040 Thing even saw one of the labor ministers saying, well, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.760 if you don't know, oh so clever they see, this 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.640 is the opportunity to prove how crazy and unstable and 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.560 out of touch and all the rest of it, the 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.040 sort of giant caricature that they've tried to build of 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.640 Peter dutt't for some time. And now they say this 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.760 is the policy that proves it. But there's one or 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.800 two talking points that I can't help but say, are 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:33.760 you serious now? The CSIRO, of course, a scientific organization, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.120 somehow has become at the center of the conversation about 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.600 economics about how much does all of this cost. I 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.840 went into some chapter and verse with you about the 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.640 idea that the renewable system that we are currently in 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.920 the middle of is many hundreds of billions of dollars, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.880 and the Peter Dutton plan is about six to eight 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:57.160 billion dollars per these sites. But of course, remember let's 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.000 imagine let's bump them up to ten, let's bump them 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.080 up to twenty billion dollars. It's still way below the 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.840 amount of federal government money which is being put into 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.120 the building of renewables. So either way you pay, it 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.880 is the case with renewables, it is the case with nuclear. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.440 But of course the grand difference here is that, ironically, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.520 this is the Daniel Andrews approach, which is to build 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.520 things that are into the power grid that are therefore 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.960 owned by the taxpayer, not money given to private organizations 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.800 to just get it built, like the Billion Dollar Fund, which, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.400 among others, people like Mike cannon Brooks and companies connected 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.240 to Malcolm Turnpull have got their hand out for the 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.440 government doesn't own shares in those. It will help them 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.120 get up, help them get building, but there's no return 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.280 to the taxpayer. Of course, these facilities will be owned 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.800 by the taxpayer and presumably will not be as interested 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.400 in the profit motive, meaning when they set their prices. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:57.000 But still the CSIRO. Now, Tanya Plibasik, she was on 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.000 the telly today and God loves she's trying to find 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:03.400 a reason to scare you about Peter Dutton's power plan. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.680 We know that this will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.200 hundreds of billions of dollars that Australian taxpayers would rather 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:19.960 see spent on hospitals, roads and schools than expensive, risky nuclearyactors. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.840 The balls, hundreds of billions of dollars that should otherwise 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.280 go to hospitals and schools and police. Well, let's go 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.800 back to the CSORO. Let's read the top line of 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.719 their very statement about the cost of renewable energy. Now, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.320 in two thousand and seveneen they put out a report 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.520 which set it to cost one t for trillion dollars. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.720 That now updated their stats and it is now just 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:45.120 a mere five hundred billion dollars to move completely to renewables. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.520 So go back and play Tell your PLUPI sick again. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.399 She's saying the reason we shouldn't follow Peter Dutton's idea 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.160 on power is because it will cost hundreds of billions. Well, mate, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.440 your version costs hundreds of billions of dollars. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.440 We know that this will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.960 hundreds of billions of dollars that Australian taxpayers would rather 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:12.520 see spent on hospitals, roads and schools than expensive, risky 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.040 nucleary actors. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:20.640 As opposed to solar panels that if there's a giant hailstorm, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.440 you have to replace them. Wind turbines which run out 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.520 of a lifestyle, run out of their lifespan in a 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.919 couple of decades, all of which becomes landfill. Just what 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.320 out the back of Burke Again, my issue on this 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:39.360 subject has been unchanged for as long as we've been 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.960 talking together on the Telly cost of transition. Now they 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.480 say there's no cost of transition when it comes to 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:50.600 renewables reality according the CSIRO, apparently the great economic modelers 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.520 of the CSIRO, and yes, of course they're singular, little 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.200 uncollective brain span is far bigger than mine. The bloke 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.320 who is the security guard in the car park would 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.080 no doubt ace in any intellectual test in the world. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.240 But there's some common sense sitting right in front of 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.560 us here. If we're going to spend hundreds of billions 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.280 of dollars on a form of energy, which one do 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.640 you go with? That's the debate. That's it. If they're 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.000 trying to scare you about cost while ignoring their plan 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.320 that costs more and does not have a technology that 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.560 will last as long or be as effective, then they 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.000 assume you've got no idea what's going on. But you do, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.240 and you can see this for everything that it is. Meantime, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.480 I want to show you again very helpful that This 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.840 map was put up by the ABC. It shows the 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.280 seven different sites that are on their way potentially under 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.720 the Dutton plan. Now, as you can see, the blue 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.359 are coalition seats. Red is a Labor seat. There's a 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.560 gray which is an independent seat, but that's in Bloke, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.159 who was elected as a National then declared himself to 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.679 be an independent because he was scared of a teal 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:54.920 So he's trying to sort of out teel a teel 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.280 or pre teel ateel. So essentially six out of the 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.920 seven are in coalition seats. So, as I said to 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.280 you last week, the real bet here for Peter Dutton 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.920 is that he is gambling with his own seats. He's 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.880 not coming up with seats he needs to win. These 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.240 are seats that he would need to hold. So how's 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.760 the polling going there? Again, this was fresh word and 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.240 numbers that came via The Australian reported for sky News. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.399 Here that as you can see that there is growing 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.040 support in the regions. It sits basically at about fifty 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.719 to fifty. Now again you'll see lots of poles from 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.800 lots of people, but I'm going to show you the data. Now, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.240 I don't trust the poles from the Australia Institute whi's 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.840 are far left wing, sort of greenstink tank. I don't 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.639 care what the teels are going to come up with 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.760 polling equally, I don't care what the nuclear industry is 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.600 going to come up with. But right now, majority of 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.680 people in the places that will end up with these 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.960 things are currently pro By the way, Pete Dutton, free 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.880 piece of marketing advice. Tell everyone in these seats they 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.280 will get free power under the plan for at least 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.760 twenty years, and then watch other places start to put 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.640 their hand up saying what free energy for twenty years? 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:00.440 Cool? 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:05.520 I'm up, I'm in now. Of course, the other side 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.280 of this is where much of the media that is 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.199 writing the articles or doing the cartoons or setting their 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.440 hair on fire about this is the option because the 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.560 climate warth were ended in twenty twenty two, because apparently 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.840 that was the forever election. No, if that policy at 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.119 all passed. Yes, it was forty three percent emissions. Yes 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.560 it was a massive jump in renewables, but there was 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.320 a promise of two hundred and seventy five dollars when 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.160 it comes to your power bills. That's never going to happen. Oh, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.199 but they're not breaking that promise. The modeling has just 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.239 changed anyway. David Little Proud is dunking as hard as 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.159 he possibly can on the teels. Now this makes me 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.120 feel good because I don't know the teals. I don't 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.640 know how this helps the cause though, But have a look. 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.359 Don't your fellow Australians count? 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.520 And I just say, we seek to understand those TiAl 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.720 members of Parliament, but they should seek to understand us 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.320 of the burden they're asking regional Australians to bear. I mean, 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.400 is it is so entitled for them to look down 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.080 their nose dripping with self righteous sanctimony, saying this is 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.760 the only pathway, but to hell with our lifestyle. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.560 And this is the point, as I have said how 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.159 many times in a row, the teel seats don't have 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:18.600 any plans for some sort of electricity generation, all right. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.040 They're not going to have a solar farm, they're not 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.160 going to have wind turbines, they're not going to even 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.359 have them offshore. So they're able to say renewables all 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.680 the way. Why because maybe some of the people can 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.680 have solar panels on their roof and sort of cut 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.320 themselves off from the overall grid. Fine, fair enough. Maybe 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.640 there's even plans for batteries at the end of streets, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.680 so one little streak can hive itself off from another 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:45.200 little street. But let's be really honest here. They don't 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.600 have any skin in the game because they don't have 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.240 to have the solar panels, they won't have the nucular 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.480 power plants, they don't have to have the coal fire 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.720 power plants. So they're able just to push the agenda 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:01.680 knowing that whatever happens, they won't see any of the consequences. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.200 These are the people who go nuts if you want 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.000 to build a unit block in their part of Australia, 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:11.840 let alone trying to change energy creation. Perfect example NEPO 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.520 baby riding in the again Sidnay Morning Herald. What a surprise, 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.200 says Dutton's given up on the till seats. What about 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:22.480 a nuclear reactor in Vorklues. Oh yeah, cool, Okay, But 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.280 I don't believe that you guys have got skin in 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.160 the game until you're willing to say, you know what, 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.320 let's have the same burden they have in regional Australia. 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.800 I'm not suggesting that we should cover all of Centennial 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.560 Park in Sydney with solar panels or wind farms. But 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.399 maybe you could just hive off a little bit of 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:43.240 a doggy park just to show that you are willing 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.640 to have in your part of Australia. What is happening 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.080 in regional Australia every single day and under this plan 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.639 of this government, these teals, this green and this media 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:59.800 more more more every day, thousands of solar panels, thousands 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.720 of wind farms. Again, when you have one in your electorate, 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.280 then you can say you're part of the solution. If 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.520 you don't have any of these options in your electorate, 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:18.360 then you are just playing the politics of all of it. 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.280 People in regional Australia don't hate renewable energy because they 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:26.480 don't believe in climate change. They are sick of seeing 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.840 big companies that will make big money with big government 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.720 just rolling over the top of them. And it doesn't 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.280 matter whether it's Mudgy, or it's Ballarat, or it's Queensland 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:43.000 or it's offshore wind in other places, locals, funnily enough, 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.920 just like in the teal seats, don't want to see 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:50.520 their suburbs change forever. So we can ruin the earth 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:55.280 to save the atmosphere. Oh yeah, one percent of the atmosphere, 0:24:55.520 --> 0:25:01.040 while China does whatever it wants till twenty thirty. Back 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:02.520 in the real world, where cost of living is the 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.600 front and center, it's the main game. We talk about 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.880 it every night because it's the thing that is affecting 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.720 your life, your friend's life, your family's life. Now, of 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.920 course you're struggling to find a way to pay the 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.360 same bills you did six months ago, twelve months ago, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.800 two years ago, twelve interest rate rises since this Prime 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.159 Minister came to office. Of course, it doesn't matter for 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.160 Albow and charmers, because they, of course just last week 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.119 got their third pay rise this term, the second highest 0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.800 in a decade. The highest and a decade was the 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.320 one before this. Three in one term six hundred thousand dollars. 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.760 So this may surprise some of the politicians, who of 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.560 course may be hate watching the show. But the facts 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.359 are here from that pesky right wing thing tank, the 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.840 Australian Bureau of Statistics about the number of people who 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.040 have multiple jobs in the country. It's almost a million 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.160 people who currently work more than one job to make 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.520 ends meet. Figures from the Bureau of statistics show record 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.800 one hundred and seventy four thousand people have had more 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.800 than one job in March of this year, equivalent to 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.600 about one in fifteen workers or six point seven percent 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:09.160 of total employment. This matter is because the number between 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.919 nine and ninety five and twenty nineteen was somewhere between 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.760 five and six percent of people who had more than 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.639 one job, and we are way above that, close to 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.880 almost seven percent. Once you start to get down into 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.120 the states, Victoria is the highest, with the overall number 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.400 of two hundred and seventy two thousand people juggling more 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.000 than one job. That's seven point three percent of overall employment. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.879 Remember between nine and only five twenty nineteen, it was 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.400 five percent of people who had two jobs. Now one 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.680 state alone Victoria seven point three percent, basically the same 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.520 number of South Australia and Tasmania. Owen they've got the 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.119 calcula are out. I should the calculator out. I should 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.480 tell you are in lefty land. Remember the truth of 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.639 the two little too late tax cuts that we have 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.720 called too little too late all year, because they are. 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.280 And we've got one hundred and seven billion dollars in 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.960 tax cuts flowing in the coming year years from July 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.639 already and that will provide that average tax cut of 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.200 thirty six dollars a week. 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.560 Well, the Guardian decided to well, talk to their mates 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.679 inside the government, get out the calculator and guess what. 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.280 Thirty six dollars a week. Magically, if you have two 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:20.800 people working, becomes sixty dollars a week. So this is 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.320 the new way to tell people. Okay, the reality's thirty 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.120 something bucks, but if it's two of you at sixty dollars. 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.679 But again, the arrogance of these people to think that 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.560 sixty dollars is enough to turn anyone's life around. Remember, 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.960 if you earn forty five thousand dollars, it's fifteen bucks 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.560 a week. So the average, yes, might be where the 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.840 average person is working sort of up around the seventies 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.159 and eighties, maybe a little bit higher. But for the 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.280 people who are actually struggling, actually in a hole, trying 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.760 to pay for House twelve, infrastrate rises since this bloke 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.520 became Prime minister, powerbells up the ying yang because we 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.840 absolutely have to. We can only go renewables, and that's 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.840 hundreds of billions of dollars. But the other guy's idea 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.320 that could cost hundreds of billions of dollars, so the 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.680 frustration for obvious reasons. Oh yeah, and remember how every 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.440 time you've heard about these cost of living assistances which 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.040 aren't really going to touch the sides, but as an 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.919 overall issue, when inflation is still stubborn and not getting 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.880 down to that two to three percent margin that the 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.239 Reserve Bank needs it to get down to. While they 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.280 keep saying this is a way of saying, trust us 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.399 not adding to inflation, not adding to inflation, while not 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.680 adding to inflation, well, of course, if it does add 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.959 to inflation, then the Reserve Bank, who of course is 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.480 not cutting interest rates. Remember at the last monthly meeting 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:37.200 they talked about raising them, not cutting them. They thankfully 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:38.920 have held on. But they're still holding on while the 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.240 squeeze is the titus that's been in a generation. If 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.880 these things are inflationary, then guess what they're going to 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.520 put up rates again? And funnily enough, the good people 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.480 of Westpac Banking organization they were the subject of this story. 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.240 A sixty billion dollar jump in federal and state government 0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:00.800 spending in the coming financial year will add to inflation 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.800 and risks keeping interest rates higher for longer. The Westpac 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.880 senior economist says this extra money was equivalent to a 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.240 fiscal impulse worth two point two percent of GDP in 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:17.880 the coming financial year. So just just chug a chugger, 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.880 chug it. Just the machine, right, it just rolls over 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.480 the top of you. But the people who are writing 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.320 all the laws, they're fine. They get pay rises that 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.640 are the highest in the decade, or the second highest 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.680 in the decade, or they get three of them since 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.680 they became the leaders of this country. Oh but we're 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.240 giving you back thirty something dollars of your own money. 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.360 I wonder if you've got somebody who loves you, then 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.400 it might be sixty dollars. Please be thankful. The crumbs 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:48.440 taste lovely. Well. Small business, I mean every single night 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.680 I can tell you a story about small business that's struggling. 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.800 But guess what are two of the major driving factors 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.920 that are currently causing massive problems for small businesses around 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:04.040 the country. That's right, fuel and power costs. So they're 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.960 trying to scare you about a bloke's policy that will 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.120 cost less than the current policy, and you pay more 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.480 tax than ever before because they've increased it on fuel 0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.240 oh yeah, vote for them because they care about cost 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.920 of living. Please the other one. It plays jingle bells 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.480 as they say, all right, here we go, thank you. Now, 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.480 as you know, this week Friday is going to be 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.760 the first of the debates between Trump and Biden. Now, 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.360 there are some people who say one will pull out, 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.360 both will pull out, somebody will find a reason. But no, 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.760 let's assume it's taking place this Friday, the debate between 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.240 Trump and Biden. Now, it's not going to be like 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.560 the one in twenty twenty, not just because they're cutting 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.680 the mics off and not showing both of them at 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.160 the same time, but that setting there is the Official 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.400 President's Debate Commission. Well, that's all been pushed on one side. 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.240 This is just turn up in a studio and see, 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.600 ann we won't show anyone walking on, we won't show 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.920 anyone walking off, nobody's shaking hands, Your MC gets cut 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.840 off when it's the end of your answer, and we're 0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.000 not going to be able to show both of them 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.800 at the same time. So all of that is the 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.640 conditions in and around the debate. Donald Trump, he's not 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.840 doing much debate prep. If he is, he's doing it 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.600 in between rallies, because he's saying things like this at 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.360 a recent rally today in front of tens of thousands of. 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:16.120 People, he could fall off the stage, he could fall 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:17.080 up the stairs. 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:18.000 He falls up. 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.600 From twenty thousand feet of paratroopers. 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.120 Landing right in front of him. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.480 Everybody or the foreign leaders are watching, and he turns 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:35.800 around to look at a tree, right nah, And then 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.080 they say it was fake. 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.000 He was fine, and then the press goes along with it. 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.040 They go along with it. Now Biden is currently a 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.240 Camp David, which of course is the rural retreat for 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.600 the president. That's where he's currently doing his debate prep. 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.640 As I say, whether Trump's just not going to do 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:52.920 any of it, he's just going to wing it, or 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.840 he's doing it behind the scenes, we'll all wait and see. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.480 But hopefully he brings props with him, because this is 0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.360 how he explains bid nomics. 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.200 On day one, we will throw out badenamics and replace 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:09.880 it with maganamics. Correctly, Under Baden, the economy is in ruins. 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.800 Inflation has cost the typical family twenty eight thousand dollars. 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:14.400 Think of that. 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:19.040 The infletion is killing people. Now, as for the polls, 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.440 I want to show you something that's changed this month, 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.840 and it's nationally who's winning. I'm going to show you 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.240 a lot of these between now and November. But there's 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.920 a website called five thirty eight. Yes, lefty leaning in 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.440 its commentary, but its data is pretty solid, okay, which 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.760 is about a month ago, Trump was leading nationally by 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.840 about a point and a bit. Tonight Biden is leading 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.160 by zero point three. So this is all margin of 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.360 era stuff. But as you know, it's not about the 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.360 national vote because the mega states will go through the 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.360 roof for Trump and the lefty states will go through 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.320 the roof for Biden. It's all about swing states. So 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.440 let me show you a map. This is a great website, 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.760 by the way, two seventy dot com you two seventy 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.800 to win dot com that I used. So in the 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:08.600 top right hand corner is Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania down 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.120 moving around clockwise here, Georgia is the next one, which 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.760 is sort of in the bottom right of the country. 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.720 Then we start to move towards California, where Arizona and 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:23.720 Nevada are Okay, based off current polls right now, we 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.959 would end up with the Republicans at two eighty seven, 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:37.040 two eighty seven electoral votes. That is Trump winning Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania. 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.920 But what's really important about those things is Pennsylvania he 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.280 won in twenty sixteen, but he lost in twenty twenty. 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.400 Before that, Republicans had basically not won since Reagan or 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.080 even before then, Nevada, they haven't won it in decades. 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.200 So if he does that, it's historic and he clearly 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.280 becomes the president. However, look at this map. If Biden 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.120 wins Nevada and Pennsylvania, he wins two seventy six to 0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:04.160 the Republicans to sixty two. So it's tight. So now 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.040 you can start to look not just at fifty states. 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.320 You look at seven states, You look at six states, 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.040 you look at four states. Now pretty much the data 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.799 to keep your eyes on. Here is Trump still leading 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.640 in Nevada and in Pennsylvania. If he does, he wins. 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.200 If he doesn't, he loses, and four more years or 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.520 most likely two years of Biden and two years of Harris. 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.160 All right, I've talked too long. Quick breakback with more 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.360 in a moment. No looks they left his Sunday night. 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:36.920 We'll get their bold predictions. In a sector as run. 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.360 Dmc famously said you talk too much, very patiently waiting 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.000 none other than James Ashby running of course for One 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.640 Nation in the seat of Ypoon, sorry Keppel in the 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.080 Queensland election Christy McSweeney with the pr Council lovely, lovely people. 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:55.120 All right, So James, just in terms of political messaging, 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.200 right like you've seen literally just the craziest of responses 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.239 to the Duton nuclear stuff. Right. The polls right now 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.719 say there's about twenty two percent of people undecided. We'll 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.440 all wait and see how that goes. But I'm going 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.320 to play it for the third time. This is tenure 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.560 plupersex chief argument against him, which is we're costing too 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.040 much money. Roll at one more time and your immediate 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:16.200 response off the back, mate, go. 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.080 He is saying to Australians, I don't trust you. I 0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.680 don't trust you with the costings we've done. If he's 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.840 done the costings, or he's saying we've announced a policy 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:35.080 without costing it is when has an opposition ever gone 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.560 to the Australian people with something as fundamental as saying 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.520 we're going to slam the brakes on renewables, We're going 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.360 to move to nuclear instead, and they've done it without 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:44.880 a costing. 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:49.640 I mean, seriously, James. 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.440 Taking media advice from Linda Bernie's old advice by the sounds, 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.359 but in fact it might be better to roll Linda out. 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.399 She might have something half decent to say on this. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.600 So ill prepared Labor for this announcement that they have 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.560 been caught off guard, and Labor really don't have an 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:11.160 argument against Peter Dutton's very sensible plan for a stability 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:15.320 of not only our electricity grid but also our economic 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.600 future as well, because if we're to sustain the manufacturing 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.360 that we want in this country, there's not much left. 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.160 We've got to have reliable, cheap power. 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.040 And look, if there's one thing I could employ you 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.600 to have a sensible conversation with your people at News Corp. 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.160 Any of the newspapers. Don't put these stories behind payballs. 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.280 Make sure that the Australian people can read all the data, 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.960 all the debate, both sides of the argument. I think 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:43.960 all your newspapers did a very good job during the 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.000 voice and I think this debate here is equally as important. 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.200 Can I also say how proud I am of the 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.879 people for actually saying in that questionnaire that they were undecided. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.240 That's a really bold move from a lot of Australian 0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.960 people to actually say, look, I haven't made a decision 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.359 because I don't know the facts on this. I think 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.960 the more we can inform people about how reliable power 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.000 will be in this country. If we've got a mix 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.920 of power from nuclear, wind, solar, the whole lot gas. 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.680 Included too, we will not end up like a. 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.920 Basket case electricity grid like they've got in South Africa. 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.600 You speak to anyone who's recently come out of South Africa. 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.239 They don't have stability in their grid and so they've 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.799 got these rolling blackouts that. 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.080 Happen every single day. 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.759 Every house has got to have a generator which is 0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.080 fired up with either petrol or diesel, and it's because 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.759 they don't have stability. We've been told towards the end 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.880 of this year we're likely to have rolling blackouts in 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.600 some parts of the country. I don't want that. I'm 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.920 sure nobody in this country wants it. But until we 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.560 get it, I don't think people realize how good we've 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.919 had it in this country for a long time. I say, well, 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.239 Doneder Peter Dutton, I say, well done to the Coalition 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.000 as a whole for putting forward sensible policy that Australia 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:05.239 now can differentiate the two Labor who want instability in 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.560 our power and the Coalition who want to make sure 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.920 that everybody has cheap reliable power as we move forward 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:12.399 as a nation. 0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.640 Such an important point, Christy, about that undecided factor, right, 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.800 because remember the early pollings in there around the voice 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.160 there was only two options, and that's certain you were 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.279 forced to make a decision. And when forced to make 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.640 a decision, we got to sixty forty. But if you 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.880 see right now, forty one thirty seven, forty one in 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.640 favor of it, thirty seven against, twenty two up for grabs. 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.720 Presumably by this point in time, if you weren't tending 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.200 then you probably will start trending towards yes as an idea. 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:44.279 But the blitz greak of information coming back against it, 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.879 the endless flood of cartoons. And I'm not just talking 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.080 from Labor INMPS here, Christy, that twenty two percent they're 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.520 open to an argument, but will they be able to 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.040 hear one. 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.799 Well, the government's made a few whears this week. 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.920 It's not like the coal is hasn't given them several 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:06.120 months to work on a decent attack to this, and 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.680 what they came up with was, I think it was 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.000 Richard Miles not being able to combat how much the 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.799 renewable energy cost of their agenda would be versus the 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.399 nuclear energy cost. So it's a bit of well, if 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.960 you can't land a number on yours, why are you 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:25.239 baiting the coalition into delivering a cost. It's also a 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.000 failure to recognize that the Government didn't go to the 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.120 last election with a whole swag of policies either. It 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:36.240 was a considerable small target election where they played Scott 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.760 Morrison as their major attack rather than a policy suite 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.600 for Australia, so much so that the Prime Minister was 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.640 even caught on the back foot being wedged into a 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.080 responding at a press conference that he would give people 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.920 a five point one percent wage hip, something that he 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:53.800 rolled back. 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.040 And then decided to support. 0:39:55.160 --> 0:40:00.040 So that was essentially industrial relations policy on the run, 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.560 which turned into something that they heralded. 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.200 So a couple of. 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:09.480 Errors are Springfield and The Simpsons. Memes and The Simpsons 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.680 debuted on Australian television and in the US in nineteen 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:13.440 eighty nine. 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.080 This is old. 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:20.160 Narrative, old messaging for old policy and old rerun of 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:25.120 wars to satisfy the aging hippie base of labor, and 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.480 of course we know they are dominant in Labour's left faction. 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.439 Young people are willing to have the discussion around well, 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.200 we're technology natives. We've grown up with technology to develop 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:40.120 policy solutions. Yes, renewable is great technology as well, but 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.000 nuclear is also great technology. They don't see the difference 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:49.080 of one technology is better than another technology. They are viewing, well, 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.920 let's use all technology to solve policy challenges. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.800 Well, remember the fourteen year old kid who absolutely schooled 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.560 the minister when he was on Channel two a little 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.279 bit earlier in the year. Now, this is a this 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.120 is a wed through. I'm not entirely sure what we're 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.399 supposed to do as the response to this, but there's 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.800 a story around suggesting that people who migrate to the 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.759 country will be at a disadvantage when it comes to 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.320 their retirement because they haven't been there their entire working life. 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.480 In order to put money into superannuation, and supposedly it's 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.560 about one hundred and forty thousand dollars which will end 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.960 up as the divide between people who have been working 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:25.920 their whole lives or paying super since the nineties and 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.360 those that have arrived recently. Okay, well that's fairly obvious, James, 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:35.200 that's maths. But what is the suggestion we're supposed to top 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.560 it up on the number of years that you weren't here. 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.320 What's the get their apparent problem? But what's the apparent solution. 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.560 Yeah, I looked at this myself today and I was 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.279 thinking to myself, what are you asking us to do. 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.600 You're asking us to give you this big fat check 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.839 upon arrival. Sorry, if it doesn't suit you, don't come here. 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.359 You've got to plan your future as much as I've 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.600 got to do the same. And the same families whose 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.080 wife decides that she wants to take the next twelve 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.040 years off to raise the kids, their economic decisions that 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:12.000 families have got to make. Paul, one of the biggest 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.279 things that we've got here is a problem with our 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.719 superannuation scheme with migrants as it is. And I say 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:22.760 that because we bring in several million people to work 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.879 in this country for a very short period of time 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.600 on different visas. When they leave the country, they're able 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.600 to cash their Super out. Perhaps we've got to look 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.040 at what we do with those people, because Super was 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.000 designed for retirement, not for backpackers who want to come 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.560 here for two years, work on fruit farms and in 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.359 various different industries, and then when they go take that 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.919 money out of our economy. Maybe we look at how 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.359 we repurpose that, don't allow them to cash it out 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.640 when they leave the country. But yeah, I didn't know 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:55.680 what the purpose of this story was, to be quite frank. 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.120 And I hope that we're not paying for this into 0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.520 the future. 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.040 Yeh, I'm with your sibold predictions. I'm not two his time. Also, 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:02.960 we'll have a chat about METS and a brand new 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.400 pole telling us that we don't really like protests, even 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.600 the so called peaceful ones. More and to seek here 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:10.640 on Paul Murray Live this Sunday night. Thanks for watching. 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.560 Send me an email Paul at skynews dot com dot you. 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.280 This time next week we're going to be in Bruceman 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.319 if you'd like to join us in McGregor outsound at 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:25.520 skynews dot com dot A you this Sunday night. Thank 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.799 you for watching here with James Ashby and with Christy 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.640 McSweeney Christy. You go first off the rank here, which 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.960 is another pole, same people about the nuclear thing, but 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.719 this time about protests. Apparently, only fifty three percent of 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.320 people believe that a legitimate protest is having a rally 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.120 in a park or outside of Parliament. Forty one percent 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.720 say marching on the streets. Then we start to fall 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.600 camping at universities just fourteen percent of people say that 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.160 it's okay, blocking access to an MP's office ten percent, 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.040 then protesting at the home of somebody nine percent, with 0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.359 the assistance of the ABC not quite asked, and then 0:43:58.360 --> 0:43:59.879 we start to go down and down and down until 0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.600 we eventually get to a damage an electorate office, which 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:06.319 amazingly four percent of people think is okay. This is 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.000 a great insight because I would have thought that holding 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.200 a rally would have been eighty percent of people are 0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.440 okay with it, but only fifty three percent. Is that 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.279 because we're a little protested out? Well? 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:22.480 Are they all from Melbourne like me? And that protest fatigue? 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:27.360 I've lost sight and lost count of every time I 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.719 look out my office window in Spring Street and see 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:34.000 some crowd or another protesting on the steps of Parliament 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.520 or blocking traffic with extinction, rebellion or where I live 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:41.800 in sin Kilda East, Free Palestine, right in the heart 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.560 of Jewish dominance, Sinkida East. 0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.560 So we have fatigue here in Melbourne. 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.880 It's nice to see that the rest of the country 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.440 is probably also suffering a little bit of fatigue with 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:59.640 people jumping on woke bandwagons and may I say quite 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.239 often many people protesting don't have any critical thought or 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.080 insight into what they actually are protesting, and that's a 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:12.040 whole other discussion. But of course people have the right 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.440 to protest freely and peacefully. 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.560 But hasn't it just gone a little bit too far? 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.680 Well, what about this? Just sixty seven percent of green 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.680 photos think that it's okay to hold a rally at 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:26.719 a park or go outside Parliament. Only fifty percent of 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.640 eighteen to thirty four year olds think it's okay to 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.480 do the same. So Jones, we are learning here that 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:35.320 the apparent militancy and the hard leftism and the great 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.320 changes in our democracy that everyone wants to take the 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.480 strict guess what, it's garbage pushed by university students or 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:46.600 their alumni who love it. The average Australian is not 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:48.000 turned on by this stuff. 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.759 No, thankfully, we don't have protests here in your pun 0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.319 And when I am in Brisbane and I do see 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.720 a protest, I always look for two things. 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.600 If it's full of I turn a blind eye. I'm 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:02.239 not interested. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.439 And I look for the hair color, because if it's 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:09.800 multicolored green and blue hair, I just go again not interested. 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.839 We have had a gutfull. I think Christy's all right. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.280 Once upot a time when you saw a protest you thought, okay, well, 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.080 obviously this is upset a few people. Now we're protesting 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.360 absolute rubbish. These in camps or whatever you want to 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.799 call them at the universities. They should have been moved on. 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.480 They should never have been allowed to happen in the 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:32.280 first place. I despise anybody who ruins somebody else's property. 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.640 I hate it, whether it be a parliamentary office or 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.520 somebody's house. You shouldn't be spray painting stuff on people's 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.560 walls and shouldn't be destroying them. So no, I'm over 0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:45.560 the protests. They've lost their merit. And for anyone that 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.960 wants to disrupt traffic blue themselves to roads, I reckon 0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:49.920 sink the boot into them. 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.200 I can't stand those buggets. 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.840 I'm with you. I'm with you, just the frustration that 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:57.839 the visceral frustration people have. Right, it's yeah, all right, 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.000 let's get a bold predictions for the weekend. Christi Bigsweeney, 0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.400 it's absolutely definitely happening this week apart from Trump and Biden. 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.520 Eleven am Friday here on Sky News. 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.600 Look, I think we are going to see the government 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.120 get the shock of its life, no pun intended. 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.080 When the polls for people. 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.200 Willing to have that discussion around clear energy might move 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.040 from twenty two percent undecided to people having another week 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.880 or so to think about it might move into the 0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:27.720 yes positive column. 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:32.240 Yeah, I do too. We suddenly get these proper polls 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.239 actually breaking it down on the question, we'll get into it. 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.279 And again that don't again, don't be afraid. I'm sure 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.520 don't know. It's okay as a position a right, James, 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.880 your thoughts on the prediction for the weekend. 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.640 Yeah, the only nuclear meltdown over the next two weeks 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.719 will be within the Labor Party and every pun will 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:54.040 be put in this Fridays Please explain cartoon thing. The 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.560 only political party who can get away with doing cartoons 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:57.120 is one nation. 0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:59.040 I got to say ps this week by the give 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:05.080 Up Sensational, Sensational and Gold Logi nominee Robert Irwin thankfully 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.640 went no further than just appearing inside the cartoon. Thank 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.719 you guys to appreciate it. We'll see you again next week. 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.680 Thank you guys, appreciate it. No books, no lefties, And 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.279 speaking of the logies, not generally we don't get in 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.120 for that stuff. But a really lovely man has been 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.120 nominated for the Gold Logi. He's been in the television 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:23.360 industry for decades and he is the gold standard of 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.000 the way you should conduct yourself as a professional in 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.560 the business. His name is Larry Emder. Larry has done 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.200 everything from news to variety shows and of course is 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.200 there on the morning show over on Channel seven. For 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.719 what it's worth, Let's all go, let's go all in 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.160 for Larry. All right, Larry for the Gold I don't 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.160 know how you do it and vote in text and 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.000 all the rest of it. Larry's a lovely bloke. I'm 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.440 sure my endorsement's really going to help. But still he 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.960 is a lovely bloke and he deserves the award. If 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.320 the award is actually about people who deserve the award, 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.560 for their commitment to the television industry. Love you Las, 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.160 all right, here's the Royal Report see tomorrow.