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Speaker 1: Every week we are joined by the Victorian Police a

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Speaker 1: different area or a different department, and this week we.

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Speaker 2: Are And you know what, I am never short of

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Speaker 2: amazement of how many different departments there are of the

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Speaker 2: Victorian Police. Well, this one is serious, though, Ja.

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Speaker 1: They are recruiting as well. Remember whether it's Dogs, Squad,

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Speaker 1: General Judies, Highway Patrol or from the Special Operations Group.

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Speaker 1: These are the boys that are not here to muck around.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at the outfits. They're not here.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: They're not costumes, I said, uniforms. Uniforms. We have team

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Speaker 2: lead morning guys.

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Speaker 1: Ben from the Special Operations Group joining us this morning. Morning.

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Speaker 1: Betty's just taken off the helmet. Morning Ben, I'll get

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Speaker 1: you to boost that. Mike. How a mate.

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Speaker 3: Good, Thanks for having us morning, Ben.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'll be honest, I've been trying.

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Speaker 2: To you're scary looking.

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Speaker 1: I know I was going. I've been trying some gags

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Speaker 1: on the boys and it's a tough crowd.

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Speaker 2: You guys are some of the most serious within the

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Speaker 2: Victorian Police. But when we were talking about having you in,

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Speaker 2: I said to Jason, I'm sure they're all just big

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Speaker 2: teddy bears inside and Jace got to meet you before

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Speaker 2: I did, and Jas was like, you know what was

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're right about being teddy bears.

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Speaker 2: These guys are tough.

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Speaker 1: How long you be doing big soft?

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Speaker 2: Is it hurt?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Jace did try and walk in while I was getting dressed,

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Speaker 3: so we got off on the wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my bad. How long you've been in

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Speaker 1: the force? Bed?

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Speaker 3: I've been in for fifteen years in the past force,

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Speaker 3: and I've been at the Special Operations Group for eight years?

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Speaker 1: Right? How many years would someone normally be in the

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Speaker 1: police before they can move to special operations?

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Speaker 3: Look, it really varies. Historically we probably wanted more experienced

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Speaker 3: police officers, but we do recruiting of really junior members now, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you can be as little as two years in the

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Speaker 3: police force, really, and if you pass the selection program,

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Speaker 3: then you'll come to the unit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: And Ben, for those of us who aren't really familiar,

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Speaker 2: which is probably a good thing with a special Operations Group,

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Speaker 2: what exactly do you guys.

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Speaker 3: Do you'll I heard you guys use the example before

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Speaker 3: about the SWAT, so that's probably one that everyone can understand.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: The SOG is classified as a police tactical group. Every

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Speaker 3: state has one, every state in territory has one, and

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Speaker 3: our main role is as a counter terrorism response. Right.

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Speaker 3: So look, we thankfully that stuff doesn't happen every day

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Speaker 3: in Victoria. So we spend our time chasing some of

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Speaker 3: the worst defenders around Victoria, mainly because they're using and

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Speaker 3: carrying forearms, right, And that's what we do.

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Speaker 1: So let's say, if I try, is there a lot.

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Speaker 2: More of that happening than we actually hear about, like

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Speaker 2: in the media, but I imagine there's a lot more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. Look, we arrest over two hundred

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Speaker 3: people a year. Really, that's a job every few days,

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Speaker 1: So if I hypothetical I try and pull off a

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Speaker 1: bank job in the city, right, and I hold it

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Speaker 1: up with hostages, would I see you boys?

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you in the CS but we'd be there, how

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Speaker 3: fright that is Jesus?

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Speaker 1: So? Can I imagine there's there's different positions in the team,

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Speaker 1: Like is there a sniper for example?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got specialists, so once you're at the unit,

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Speaker 3: you can specialize. We've got snipers, which everyone's probably heard of.

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Speaker 3: We've got a tactical canine, handlers, breeches and meetings on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Ben, You've got something like this very calm

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Speaker 2: looking for when they're when they're trying to find you guys,

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Speaker 2: because I imagine you have to keep your cool under

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a high pressure job. And yeah, I

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Speaker 3: keep a level head.

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Speaker 1: But so for example, you know, when like your order

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Speaker 3: Know I've become more enraged than an Uber driver than

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just going to ask massive story, obviously

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Speaker 3: I was glued to the news like I was watching

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Speaker 3: Clint as he broke it down. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: Love to be a fly on the wall in that

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Speaker 2: It would have been Have you not seen that? Jason?

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating, But do you look at things like that

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Speaker 2: Ban New would have spotted him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, America is a different beast. We train for

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Speaker 3: every worst possible situation, obviously, but I've got a huge

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Speaker 2: Some of the crazy crazy training and pressure tests you

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Speaker 3: So probably the most well known within police is the

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Speaker 3: If they're successful during that selection phase and they're deem suitable,

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Speaker 3: so we'll teach them over thirteen weeks. We'll then teach them.

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Speaker 3: But I would say that selection phase, you know for

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Speaker 3: the first time that you do it, grateful only have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I commend you guys for the job you do.

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Speaker 3: It is. I've got a young family, yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: MU sure I'm present for them. It is hard, though,

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Speaker 3: I just use that drive home usually after a job,

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Speaker 2: Because are you allowed to talk about what happens in

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Speaker 2: whatever our equivalent of the Secret Services. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's what it's called here, but you're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. And so you guys must hold

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Speaker 2: because there's so much confidential information that you're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: You must have to hold so much in deal with

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Speaker 2: it on your own. Is that is that tricky?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you just internalize that feeling have success, and that's

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at all the gear you're carrying on you.

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Speaker 1: It's very different to the walky talkies I got from

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Speaker 1: Tandy for the kids. Can we just quickly go through

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Speaker 1: the gig because you've got scissors on there as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there my trauma she is. So if you're injured,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cut your clothes off.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is a new shirt, if you could take

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Speaker 3: So obviously we carry firearms. Now, there's no secret. You

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Speaker 1: Two guns on it, that rifle. Yeah, a song just started.

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Speaker 1: You can pause to it. I'm not I'm not wrapping.

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Speaker 1: So I've seen and bear with me. I was watching

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Speaker 3: They're louder than you can ever imagine. Yeah right, they're

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take your word for it. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to a song when we come back.

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Speaker 1: I know you were involved in a very famous case

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Speaker 1: young children being kidnapped. It's a full on story. We're

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Speaker 1: not sure what. I'm not sure what you guys use

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Speaker 1: as target practice? Can we bring in the oversizer? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Bring in bring in the target suggestion. So Clint has

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Speaker 1: just done a photo shoot for Men's Health and we

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Speaker 2: Now do you wreckon yours?

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Speaker 3: That's work?

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Speaker 1: It has isn't it?

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Speaker 2: It hasn't it? Dreking your snipers could shoot those abs

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Speaker 3: That's as dream. Right there, we are.

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Speaker 1: On the air or with the Victorian Police this morning.

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Speaker 1: The SOG boys are in the house. More with them

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Speaker 1: right after do a leap bar on Novar Jason Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what's you know?

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Speaker 1: My favorite segment. Every couple of weeks we get a

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Speaker 1: different area of the Victorian Police in this morning, we've

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Speaker 1: got Ben who is the team leader of the Special

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Speaker 1: Operations Group. These are the SOG boys that get dispatched

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Speaker 1: hostage negotiations terror, a stramas.

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Speaker 2: All the really serious stuff.

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Speaker 1: Ben is ready girls in the any females in the squad.

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Speaker 3: No, not in our units. So we work closely with

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's just gonna say I've seen Lauren in full

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one, No one gets away from me.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some untapped skills out there.

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Speaker 2: Ben, just quickly. Do you ever get scared? Has anything

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Speaker 1: But if the moment comes and you get the green

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Speaker 1: I can't say no.

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Speaker 3: Hesitating. I know.

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Speaker 1: It's what I said before. Mate. They will take you

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Speaker 1: There was a famous story in the news in twenty

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Speaker 4: He went to the family home in Melbourne's eastern suburbs

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Speaker 4: Armed with a knife. He bound and gagged his wife

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Speaker 1: That was so he'd stormed in and taken the kids hostage.

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Speaker 1: And did he have a weapon, Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think the actual kidnapping I won't go

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Speaker 1: sometimes we're just like just bloody, go in and get them.

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Speaker 1: Is there a time period?

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily. Look, there's certain times where the hostage take

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys do such an amazing job in

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Speaker 4: Is there like.

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Speaker 2: An expiry date for you guys on how long you

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Speaker 2: can do it? Because it must be so stressful. Do

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Speaker 3: It really varies, like I've been doing it eight years,

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Speaker 3: as I said before, that you can go away from

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Speaker 3: if you just commit to work one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest, from a fitness level, there's no

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Speaker 1: senior Sergeant Tom Croydon part of the SG squad is there.

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Speaker 3: He may have been in a previous lot.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got a desk job. Because there's some chubby

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Speaker 1: because I am, they're not doing this job. They are

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Speaker 1: not doing this job. Well, can we just say thank

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Speaker 1: you for the work you do? Honestly? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And it's so brave.

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Speaker 1: Will you guys be traveling into state when the Olympics

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Speaker 3: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 3: We help our inter state counterparts with major events like that.

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Speaker 3: So they've come down and traveled and helped us before.

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Speaker 3: With recent events and hopefully we'll be able to support

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Speaker 1: Right and just just finally, this is just for the police.

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Speaker 1: Nerd in me. What vehicles do you guys get around here?

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Speaker 1: Can you say?

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Speaker 3: I'll say full drives.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you should be in a tank in

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Speaker 3: We've got armored vehicles. We've got we've got some armored vehicles.

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the big armored cat that you

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Speaker 2: A bear cat? Guy?

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Speaker 2: In that outfit a manual job.

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Speaker 3: It's an auto, it is, and it's it's left hand

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Speaker 1: Heated seats.

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Speaker 3: No, no heated seats.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chase, can it? Does it fit through

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Speaker 1: The drive.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Look, Ben and the crew from the Special Operations grow

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming in. Boys. We really

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Speaker 2: And thank you for everything that you do to keep

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Speaker 2: us safe. You guys do an amazing job. We love

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Speaker 2: the Victorian Police.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you don't see this through a scope anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks having USC on your.

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Speaker 1: Matelauren wake up feeling good on Nomber one hundred. Jason

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Speaker 1: Lauren on socials,