1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:25,121 Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode. 2 00:00:24,681 --> 00:00:30,481 Speaker 2: About I a Bad Mom podcast, the podcast that continually 3 00:00:30,761 --> 00:00:33,801 Speaker 2: gives and gives and gives and a bit isn't us. 4 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: It's other people sharing their stories of parenting fails and 5 00:00:38,961 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: I guess just the ups and downs of a day 6 00:00:41,881 --> 00:00:43,241 Speaker 2: in the life of a parent. 7 00:00:43,641 --> 00:00:47,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love getting memes and stuff like that on Instagram. Actually, 8 00:00:47,721 --> 00:00:51,281 Speaker 1: I saw one of our friends, Karina, put something. 9 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,401 Speaker 3: On because she's in toddler phase. 10 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:53,721 Speaker 2: Though. 11 00:00:54,281 --> 00:00:57,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in a completely different phase. It's so different, 12 00:00:57,681 --> 00:00:59,321 Speaker 3: but it took me right back there. 13 00:00:59,361 --> 00:01:02,441 Speaker 1: It was like one minute your sterilizing bottles and then 14 00:01:02,481 --> 00:01:07,121 Speaker 1: the next minute you are reasoning with your toddler about 15 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:09,241 Speaker 1: wearing gum boots. 16 00:01:09,441 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ape bed, Yeah yeah, that is really where 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: she's at right now, poor thing. 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: Talk about where people are at. 19 00:01:16,601 --> 00:01:21,961 Speaker 2: Though. One of our friends, Christy, she makes me lol. 20 00:01:22,121 --> 00:01:24,361 Speaker 2: She's got two boys and a daughter. Her daughter is 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: obviously the same age as Gracie. The interactions of mum 22 00:01:28,801 --> 00:01:31,321 Speaker 2: with a teenage boy in comparison. 23 00:01:30,801 --> 00:01:33,161 Speaker 3: To what we get because obviously you're two girls. I 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: got two girls. 25 00:01:34,521 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: It's just so funny, Katie, Like, I feel like, so 26 00:01:37,401 --> 00:01:41,161 Speaker 2: she's screenshots what she chats to him about. It's almost 27 00:01:41,241 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: like that age old Sorry, sir, I didn't do my 28 00:01:44,401 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: homework because the dog ate it. That's what she gets 29 00:01:47,961 --> 00:01:51,561 Speaker 2: every day about him needing another five dollars on his 30 00:01:51,681 --> 00:01:54,081 Speaker 2: Spriggy card to buy a pie at school. 31 00:01:54,681 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Every day. 32 00:01:56,481 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Every day, Katie, there's a new excuse as to why 33 00:01:59,881 --> 00:02:03,321 Speaker 2: he knew nothing copied. I don't even know if he's 34 00:02:03,361 --> 00:02:06,201 Speaker 2: chat gyputeing it. It's like there is a new excuse 35 00:02:06,561 --> 00:02:08,681 Speaker 2: every single day as to why he needs the five 36 00:02:08,721 --> 00:02:11,081 Speaker 2: dollars for the same outcome, which is a pie at 37 00:02:11,121 --> 00:02:12,001 Speaker 2: the tuck shop. 38 00:02:12,481 --> 00:02:14,881 Speaker 1: My girls do this after school as well, Like they're 39 00:02:14,921 --> 00:02:18,041 Speaker 1: always asking me for extra money, and I'm like, pack more. 40 00:02:17,921 --> 00:02:20,601 Speaker 3: Lunch, yeah, more food, yeah. 41 00:02:20,601 --> 00:02:23,041 Speaker 2: But every day, like there was one in there the 42 00:02:23,121 --> 00:02:25,761 Speaker 2: other day that was exactly like the dog ate my homework. 43 00:02:26,761 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: Didn't though, because if you just did what I asked, 44 00:02:29,281 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: which was pack your fucking lunchbox this morning. 45 00:02:31,441 --> 00:02:32,921 Speaker 1: The thing that I loved, though, is that there's a 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: different excuse for every day, so instead of just I'm hungry, 47 00:02:36,001 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: can I have five. 48 00:02:36,561 --> 00:02:37,361 Speaker 3: Dollars for a pie? 49 00:02:38,161 --> 00:02:38,321 Speaker 2: Oh? 50 00:02:38,641 --> 00:02:40,641 Speaker 1: You would believe it. I was walking across the school 51 00:02:40,641 --> 00:02:44,841 Speaker 1: playground and a bird came out of the sky and 52 00:02:44,881 --> 00:02:46,201 Speaker 1: it took my lunchbox. 53 00:02:46,281 --> 00:02:49,321 Speaker 2: It is like that, Katie, but every day she hits 54 00:02:49,361 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: a new one that's creative, that's very creative, creative. Am 55 00:03:02,001 --> 00:03:05,761 Speaker 2: I a bad mum for feeling like I was never 56 00:03:05,841 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: going to reach the finish line? A forty eight hour 57 00:03:10,041 --> 00:03:14,281 Speaker 2: bender was what I had last weekend. And I'm talking 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,961 Speaker 2: a fun parenting bender, not anything fun. Actually would have 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,241 Speaker 2: been longer than forty eight hours because it was Friday 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,241 Speaker 2: through to Monday. There was so much going on in 61 00:03:26,281 --> 00:03:30,201 Speaker 2: the weekend that was so we had the normal routine 62 00:03:30,201 --> 00:03:34,161 Speaker 2: on the Saturday morning of like the rush between netball 63 00:03:34,561 --> 00:03:37,801 Speaker 2: from there to dropping one to the Cairo because she 64 00:03:37,961 --> 00:03:40,121 Speaker 2: had the worst headache in the world, went back to 65 00:03:40,201 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: dance pickup. Rush from dance pickup, I took them to 66 00:03:43,761 --> 00:03:47,161 Speaker 2: see that Leela and Stitch but the new movie because 67 00:03:47,201 --> 00:03:48,921 Speaker 2: I thought I was being a nice mom. Plus I 68 00:03:48,961 --> 00:03:50,641 Speaker 2: was like, I just need to sit still and just 69 00:03:51,001 --> 00:03:52,281 Speaker 2: decompress for a little bit. 70 00:03:52,961 --> 00:03:54,441 Speaker 3: But then that night, Katie, on. 71 00:03:54,401 --> 00:03:57,841 Speaker 2: A Saturday night, after a really lovely afternoon, they just 72 00:03:58,041 --> 00:03:59,321 Speaker 2: blow up at each other. 73 00:03:59,961 --> 00:04:01,081 Speaker 3: It's like seven. 74 00:04:00,921 --> 00:04:05,521 Speaker 2: Forty five, right, I'd watched Behavior, It wasn't like me 75 00:04:05,601 --> 00:04:06,361 Speaker 2: flying off the handle. 76 00:04:06,361 --> 00:04:07,561 Speaker 3: Because one thing happened. 77 00:04:07,921 --> 00:04:10,561 Speaker 2: Elsie went over to do something near Gracie, and I 78 00:04:10,641 --> 00:04:14,721 Speaker 2: watched Gracey elbow Elsie so that she slid off the table, 79 00:04:14,761 --> 00:04:16,801 Speaker 2: you know, like when you're leaning someone and someone knocks 80 00:04:16,841 --> 00:04:19,001 Speaker 2: your arm and then you So I watched that, and 81 00:04:19,041 --> 00:04:20,281 Speaker 2: then Elsie turned around. 82 00:04:20,281 --> 00:04:21,161 Speaker 3: She was quite teary. 83 00:04:21,201 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: Now it takes a bit to get there for else, 84 00:04:23,721 --> 00:04:25,241 Speaker 2: but she was quite teary over that. So I just 85 00:04:25,241 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: looked and went, pull your head in, Grace. Everything is 86 00:04:27,721 --> 00:04:31,601 Speaker 2: calm and nice right now, like everything had been done, dinner, 87 00:04:31,681 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: all the rest. 88 00:04:32,361 --> 00:04:35,321 Speaker 3: It was calm. And then I turned around. Then Elsie's 89 00:04:35,361 --> 00:04:38,481 Speaker 3: at it anyway. It was like three strikes Katie. 90 00:04:38,521 --> 00:04:41,121 Speaker 2: And then after the third strike, I was like, still 91 00:04:41,241 --> 00:04:45,681 Speaker 2: calm and preserved. I say that now, I said, you 92 00:04:45,721 --> 00:04:47,481 Speaker 2: know what, the three strikes, You're gone. 93 00:04:47,601 --> 00:04:49,881 Speaker 3: Go to your room. I don't want to hear anyone's story. 94 00:04:49,961 --> 00:04:51,081 Speaker 3: I don't need anything. 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,721 Speaker 2: Go to your room, be quiet, read a book, decompressed, 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,841 Speaker 2: go away from me and each other. And that's how 97 00:04:58,841 --> 00:05:03,001 Speaker 2: I stayed right centered, like no yelling, just really firm. Now, 98 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: one thing that I suck at at parent is following 99 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:10,081 Speaker 2: through with the disciplinary part of it. Once they've apologized 100 00:05:10,241 --> 00:05:12,041 Speaker 2: or can see the light to it. 101 00:05:12,601 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same. 102 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,841 Speaker 3: I'm exactly the same. 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: I'll throw out a punishment because I'm really angry about 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: something they've done something wrong, and then the minute there. 105 00:05:21,241 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're on board, reasonable and nice again. 106 00:05:24,001 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go, Oh, that's okay, Yes, you can sit 107 00:05:27,121 --> 00:05:29,561 Speaker 2: and watch some TV with me. This particular night, I 108 00:05:29,601 --> 00:05:33,081 Speaker 2: was like, no, Rachel, it's obviously not working, so I 109 00:05:33,121 --> 00:05:34,881 Speaker 2: was like, no, go to your rooms. Plus, it was 110 00:05:34,961 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: quarter to eight. You both didn't need to behave like that. 111 00:05:38,201 --> 00:05:41,841 Speaker 2: You're both actually unkind humans to each other right now, 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: and that's not what we're doing. 113 00:05:43,281 --> 00:05:47,041 Speaker 1: Do you think it's tiredness that makes them more like 114 00:05:47,241 --> 00:05:48,761 Speaker 1: that because they've had a big day. 115 00:05:48,841 --> 00:05:51,081 Speaker 2: I've had a big day as well, Like Gracie dances 116 00:05:51,121 --> 00:05:54,041 Speaker 2: for like three hours in the morning, Elsie's played netball. 117 00:05:54,761 --> 00:05:56,401 Speaker 2: It's a big day, and you're coming off the back 118 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:58,841 Speaker 2: end of like a big week at school, and they 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,201 Speaker 2: both like have so much going on on a Friday 120 00:06:01,201 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: afternoon at school, so there's so much going on. It 121 00:06:04,601 --> 00:06:07,121 Speaker 2: was just not needed, though, Like it was really nasty 122 00:06:07,161 --> 00:06:10,961 Speaker 2: shit to each other. Anyway, that happened, Gracie comes back out, 123 00:06:11,001 --> 00:06:12,881 Speaker 2: and she just stepped up to the plate and she 124 00:06:12,961 --> 00:06:13,961 Speaker 2: wanted to go for it. 125 00:06:14,641 --> 00:06:16,801 Speaker 3: She wanted to fight. She wanted to like. 126 00:06:16,801 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Tell me everything that was wrong with me, why she 127 00:06:19,601 --> 00:06:21,001 Speaker 2: should be allowed to come back out. 128 00:06:21,121 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: She's apologized. 129 00:06:22,921 --> 00:06:23,521 Speaker 2: I'm talking. 130 00:06:23,601 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: Everything you can think of was thrown at me in 131 00:06:25,481 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: a conversation, and I was like, calm, calm, calm, explode fireworks. 132 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:34,481 Speaker 2: I said, the more you keep coming back to try 133 00:06:34,481 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: and make me change my mind, I am not. 134 00:06:37,961 --> 00:06:38,801 Speaker 3: This is the problem. 135 00:06:38,961 --> 00:06:41,921 Speaker 2: It went on forever, and then even that in itself, Katie, 136 00:06:42,081 --> 00:06:43,921 Speaker 2: I can't see the finishing line. I just wanted to 137 00:06:43,961 --> 00:06:46,841 Speaker 2: get into my bedroom to go away from them for 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,601 Speaker 2: a bit, like we'd been stuck like glue all day. 139 00:06:49,721 --> 00:06:52,241 Speaker 2: Like I was like, I just need ten minutes away 140 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:55,361 Speaker 2: from you, and now it's made it even worse. Anyway, 141 00:06:55,681 --> 00:06:58,041 Speaker 2: positive news out of that didn't back down. They went 142 00:06:58,081 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: into the rooms. They read the books, and then I 143 00:07:00,561 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: said lights out eight thirty, like usually on a Saturday 144 00:07:03,401 --> 00:07:05,281 Speaker 2: we'll watch a movie and it might be nine oh. 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: And she said, I'm so sorry for ruining your night. 146 00:07:07,481 --> 00:07:10,041 Speaker 2: I said, you didn't ruin anything. If anything you ruined 147 00:07:10,041 --> 00:07:10,721 Speaker 2: your own night. 148 00:07:12,401 --> 00:07:15,201 Speaker 1: I sometimes, and even now with the girls at the 149 00:07:15,241 --> 00:07:18,681 Speaker 1: age that they are at, I sometimes look back at 150 00:07:18,761 --> 00:07:24,201 Speaker 1: when they were like little four, yeah, six kind of age, 151 00:07:24,561 --> 00:07:27,761 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, wasn't that nice that you could 152 00:07:27,801 --> 00:07:28,641 Speaker 1: put them to bed? 153 00:07:28,721 --> 00:07:30,081 Speaker 3: And I know not always like that. 154 00:07:30,761 --> 00:07:32,801 Speaker 1: People, yeah up and all the rest of it. Only 155 00:07:32,801 --> 00:07:35,881 Speaker 1: need to drink water for half an hour. But the 156 00:07:35,921 --> 00:07:38,161 Speaker 1: ability to put them to bed. 157 00:07:38,121 --> 00:07:40,801 Speaker 3: Early, yeap. Yeah, have your own evening. 158 00:07:40,881 --> 00:07:44,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, even you like eight thirty nine, If that's when 159 00:07:44,521 --> 00:07:47,401 Speaker 1: they're going to bed, that's a big chunk of your night. 160 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:49,961 Speaker 3: It's gone. I find the same. I'm like, I'm the 161 00:07:50,001 --> 00:07:51,561 Speaker 3: same as you, though, Like it's gone. 162 00:07:51,801 --> 00:07:54,881 Speaker 1: I remember some days I used to change the clock 163 00:07:55,201 --> 00:07:57,561 Speaker 1: so they thought they were going to bed later, and 164 00:07:57,641 --> 00:08:01,001 Speaker 1: sometimes they would be lights out and in bed at 165 00:08:01,041 --> 00:08:01,761 Speaker 1: six thirty. 166 00:08:02,001 --> 00:08:02,201 Speaker 2: Yeah. 167 00:08:02,241 --> 00:08:05,001 Speaker 3: No, my kids have never been I've never been that luck. 168 00:08:05,361 --> 00:08:07,601 Speaker 2: But the thing is like, I just want time to 169 00:08:07,801 --> 00:08:11,281 Speaker 2: just decompress away. I need to like just you know, 170 00:08:11,481 --> 00:08:14,881 Speaker 2: move away, let me decompress, and then I'll probably come 171 00:08:14,921 --> 00:08:18,001 Speaker 2: back a little bit better. Now I'm sort of trying 172 00:08:18,001 --> 00:08:22,441 Speaker 2: to then get everything ready for Elsie's Network Carnival. The 173 00:08:22,481 --> 00:08:24,281 Speaker 2: girls had to be up at six, to leave at 174 00:08:24,281 --> 00:08:27,001 Speaker 2: six forty, for us to drive an Aaron a bit 175 00:08:27,041 --> 00:08:29,081 Speaker 2: to get to the Network Carnival for her to be 176 00:08:29,201 --> 00:08:33,361 Speaker 2: there by like seven forty seven point fifty. So we're 177 00:08:33,481 --> 00:08:36,481 Speaker 2: getting to Netball on the other side of the earth 178 00:08:37,041 --> 00:08:40,961 Speaker 2: at seven forty in the morning, and Gracie in tow 179 00:08:41,281 --> 00:08:42,001 Speaker 2: she was like. 180 00:08:41,961 --> 00:08:43,401 Speaker 3: Oh God, what am I going to do all day? 181 00:08:43,401 --> 00:08:44,361 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. 182 00:08:44,761 --> 00:08:48,201 Speaker 2: But we've got two camp chairs and an umbrella and 183 00:08:48,601 --> 00:08:51,441 Speaker 2: food and water and everything that you need for a 184 00:08:51,481 --> 00:08:53,761 Speaker 2: whole Network Carnival. And you know when we were leaving, 185 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:57,521 Speaker 2: when the sun was going down. The sun was going down. Katie, 186 00:08:57,521 --> 00:09:00,561 Speaker 2: We've been at this Network Carnival for talk about finish line. 187 00:09:00,641 --> 00:09:02,601 Speaker 2: I couldn't see the finish lines in my life. 188 00:09:02,881 --> 00:09:03,761 Speaker 3: I was like, this is. 189 00:09:03,681 --> 00:09:06,921 Speaker 2: A never ending day and it's a Sunday, and now 190 00:09:07,041 --> 00:09:09,241 Speaker 2: the sun is going down and I'm still on the 191 00:09:09,241 --> 00:09:10,761 Speaker 2: other side of the earth. 192 00:09:12,881 --> 00:09:14,441 Speaker 3: With my one child. 193 00:09:14,201 --> 00:09:18,281 Speaker 2: That is utterly exhausted. And then I've got Gracie, whom 194 00:09:18,321 --> 00:09:20,481 Speaker 2: I have to give accolades to. I thought she was 195 00:09:20,521 --> 00:09:23,521 Speaker 2: going to be twenty five thousand times worse. I thought 196 00:09:23,561 --> 00:09:25,721 Speaker 2: she would have made it to probably about ten thirty 197 00:09:25,801 --> 00:09:27,441 Speaker 2: in the morning and gone, I'm bored. 198 00:09:27,481 --> 00:09:28,161 Speaker 3: I want to go home. 199 00:09:28,241 --> 00:09:31,161 Speaker 2: I'm ah. From her side of things, I was really 200 00:09:31,201 --> 00:09:34,521 Speaker 2: proud of her, But yeah, dragging my ass out of 201 00:09:34,761 --> 00:09:39,161 Speaker 2: Neple Carnival watching the sun go down that even in itself, Katie, 202 00:09:39,161 --> 00:09:40,641 Speaker 2: You're like, I've still got to get home. I've got 203 00:09:40,681 --> 00:09:42,681 Speaker 2: to unpack, I've got to make dinner, I've got to 204 00:09:42,681 --> 00:09:44,041 Speaker 2: feed the animals things. 205 00:09:44,201 --> 00:09:48,041 Speaker 1: Because it's your weekend. However, it's not your weekend because 206 00:09:48,441 --> 00:09:50,481 Speaker 1: it's entirely about them. 207 00:09:50,681 --> 00:09:52,721 Speaker 3: I have my eyes where they need to go and 208 00:09:52,881 --> 00:09:54,801 Speaker 3: what they need to do. Yeah, my life. 209 00:09:55,201 --> 00:09:58,281 Speaker 1: No, oh invited you out on Sunday, I know, coming. 210 00:09:58,121 --> 00:10:00,281 Speaker 2: Out on the boat. Oh yeah, I did. I really 211 00:10:00,321 --> 00:10:02,801 Speaker 2: fancied it. And then I saw your fucking story. I 212 00:10:02,841 --> 00:10:04,761 Speaker 2: was like, it was a glorious stay on the water. 213 00:10:05,041 --> 00:10:07,361 Speaker 2: Anything look calm, and you had no kids in Doe. 214 00:10:07,521 --> 00:10:09,761 Speaker 2: Of course I wanted to be on the boat with you. 215 00:10:13,721 --> 00:10:13,761 Speaker 1: M