WEBVTT - The Media Show | 25 October 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.800 This is the Media Show with Jack outing, Hello and 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:06.960 welcome to the Media Show. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:07.320 Tonight. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.799 We're going to take a look at the biggest stories 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.440 in the media, starting with Peter Dudden's rough ins with 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.959 enthusiastic ABC reporters, which continues, but the Union is furious. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.919 Media Union calls Peter Dudden's response to two ABC reporters 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.040 unnecessarily aggressive. Now, this attack by the union, which at 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.479 this point is basically just a propaganda unit barracking for 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.360 one side of politics, came after this heated press conference. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.840 A vast majority of the public in colleague. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.519 Support Well, how do you know that they don't. Well, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:41.919 I have. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.680 Spoken to a number of them. I haven't seen you 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.640 spoken to a single member of the public, not just 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:46.080 the shame. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.199 Oh look, I understand the position of the ABC. The 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.400 ABC has an ideological position against that's an issue for you. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.400 I don't really care. I'm not interested in the politics 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.400 at the ABC. You could all be advocates and play 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:58.880 your games. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.040 The reporter in that clip wasn't asking questions, she was 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.119 asserting facts. She was asserting that the community did not 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.679 want Dutton's nuclear policy. Rightfully, he snapped back, pointing out 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.440 that she did not even go to the community meeting. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.720 And yes it was tense, it was provocative, but a 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.520 lot of Australians are sick to death of the clear 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.919 and obvious political campaigning by activist journalists on the taxpayer 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.600 dime like this moment just weeks before the first clip. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:34.400 Determined Captain Ristaship even though men, where are you from? 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:40.640 I'm sorry which organization ABC? I had presumed up until 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.160 this point at least that the ABC supported the government's laws, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.680 and the government has passed laws supported on a bipartisan. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.279 Basis, but not by the ABC. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.639 It seems in. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.280 Relation to the prescribing or the listing of a terrorist organization. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.720 For those Aussies irked by the ABC's lack of professionalism, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.320 we love these moments because Dutton has courage to call 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.160 it what it is, taxpayer funded politicking. And while the 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.880 media union is having a cry about this exchange, the 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.720 reporter was lapping it up. Bridget MacArthur, who has she 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.720 her pronouns in her Twitter page, proudly tweeted the exchange out, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.840 saying it was her first tango with Dutton, the implication 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.840 being clear, I've been looking forward to having a tango 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.080 I'm glad I got one. I have now become the 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.440 story and there will be plenty of profile boosting tangos 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.079 to come. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:33.440 Well. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.360 Joining me on the show this week is The Australians 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.480 Darren Davidson and Radio two Double c's Stephen Seneateempo. Well, Darren, 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.600 let's start with you. Peter Dudden. He has this combative 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.840 way that he has decided to deal with questions that 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.760 he thinks are maybe straying from the more professionalism side. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.440 And the interesting thing here that's happened this week is 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.840 the media Union. I really trying to take him to task. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.040 I guess the one point that I didn't make in 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.320 the editorial is labor politicians can be quite combative as well. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.960 And you know the Attorney General, Mark Dreyfuss, he had 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.639 quite a fiery moment with one of our reporters, Olivia Caseley. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.359 I don't know if you recall that, but it was 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.200 quite provocative. My point being, we don't seem to get 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.360 this outrage and this oh this poor journalist kind of 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.600 got scolded as if they're not tough enough to scrutinize it. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.160 We don't get that when the shoe's on the other. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.400 Foot, absolutely, I mean complete silence from the union, the 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.240 Journalist Union, the MUAA when our journalists, Liam Mendez was 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.080 bundled over exactly Peter Costello, the former chairman of Channel nine, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.800 for asking some very reasonable questions about the culture at 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.040 Channel nine, And we've had that report emerged in recent 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.360 weeks which completely validates Liam's line of questioning there. So 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.600 it does feel like the Union has taken a almost 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.480 like a political position on this one. And you know, 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.160 absolutely fine for journalists to ask robust questions as long 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.400 as they're informed and they're relevant. But you know, I 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.320 don't think we are seen them applying the same kind 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.640 of rigor or the same kind of line of questioning 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.560 when they're actually interviewing the government of the day as well. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.200 Yeah, And I guess the main point is, Steven, that 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.720 if you're going to throw a punch, prepare for someone 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.080 to maybe throw one back. And I guess you know, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.320 when your conducts radio interviews and you decide to go somebody, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.240 I'm guessing you're prepared. You've got thick skin in these situations. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:25.520 Oh. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:26.240 Absolutely. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.680 In some of the exchanges I've had with local politicians 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.000 here in the Act, you have been somewhat legendary. But look, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.160 I would say that Dutton's being combative but not aggressive. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.159 But look, it's always almost thatturesque, isn't he when you 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.080 think about it. But look, the thing that really annoys 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.280 me here, well, there's two things. The E and me 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.200 douba stands for entertainment, right, it's entertaining where these exchanges happen. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.320 But secondly, if the me douba was fed income about 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.200 the quality of journalism, they'd be pulling their journalists their 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.239 members in the line and saying, you know what, maybe 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.400 you guys need to be better. This is the reason 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.000 people don't trust our profession anymore, because this is the 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.840 rubbish you carry on with. If you want to be 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.320 a commentator, be a commentator. If you're going to pretend 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.279 to be a journalist, then be a journalist and don't 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.919 tweet and say I'm now the story like that was 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.719 your aim in the first place. I mean, you should 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.120 never be the story yourself. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.680 It's a really good point. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.800 I mean, it wracked up thousands and thousands of views 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.120 and retweets, and the reporter clearly wasn't bothered, which makes 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.240 me wonder why they actually made such a big point 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.279 of it. But let's move on now to the Queensland election. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.200 Just one day out and the polls are tightening. The race, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.359 which was once built as a runaway, will actually be 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.200 much closer, according to The Australian, which reports David Chris 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.080 a fully Squander's lead but Queensland LMP on track for 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.640 ninthe edge win. The paper reported the race could be 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.960 so close that Premier hopeful David chrisafully could be forced 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.360 into a minority government. So how did we get here? Well, 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.279 Labour ran a very strong campaign, but it did use 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.080 one hell of a lie to scare every single moderate 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.040 Queenslander that the LMP would attack abortion rights. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.120 You certainly can't trust him on health cuts or on abortion. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.680 Voted against decriminalizing abortion. He didn't make a speech, so 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.719 we'd have no idea why he did that or what 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.839 his beliefs are. What does he believe in his heart, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.120 whether that's on nuclear or on women's access to abortion. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.599 I'm really worried about this. I'm really worried that Queenslanders 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:30.279 could vote on election day believing David Christophole's promise that 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.840 nothing will change when it comes to women's reproductive rights. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.919 When I know he's lying. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.960 You know he's lying. Now. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.280 That was all a lie. It was pure labor misinformation. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.720 The LNP never had an anti abortion policy that they 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.800 were bringing to the table, and they repeatedly promised not 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.840 to make any changes if they won. This was an 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.560 attack point that Labor tried to bring in from America 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.560 and it was incredibly impactful and incredibly damaging to the LMP. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.120 Regular people who don't have time to read every bit 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.039 of media will have seen the headlines peppered through the 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.800 press casting fear and doubt about abortion policies, and Chris 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.720 of Fooley only has himself to blame. While it was 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.440 never his policy, when he was asked about it repeatedly, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.320 he seemed uncomfortable. Miles also effectively cornered him and said, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.440 policy aside, what do you personally think about this issue? 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.120 Will be no changes to abortion law and I want 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.920 Queenslanders to hear that directly from me. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.440 Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.720 thinks about this issue? I mean, this is this is 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:39.920 a really important issue. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:40.920 I think it shouldn't change. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.679 Everyone knows I think it shouldn't change. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.160 The laws will remain the same. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:45.400 Will you have a conscience spoken? 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.680 The laws will remain this view, There will do you 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.040 no change. So the scare campaign will continue, but you. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.280 Need to well, let me answer the question. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.840 The scare campaign will continue, but it's not happening. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:58.960 Give a straight answer. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.680 Okay, there will be no change, none at all. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.840 Are your pro choice or not? 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.680 There will be no change. The legislation is there and 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.560 women will have access to that legislation that gives women the. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.560 Right to choose. Chris A. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.560 Foley could have shut down this line of questioning much 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.280 earlier in the campaign, but now this one mistake could 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:23.560 end up costing him big Well, Darren, it's the classic 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.840 case of your policy may not be here, but I 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.040 think that you disagree with your policy. The only way 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.240 to deal with that, surely, if you're getting it at 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.520 press conferences from every second journalo that's falling for this, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.840 By the way, a lot of journalists fell for this, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.760 you have to say, well, I personally agree with my policy, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.120 otherwise it wouldn't be my policy. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.480 Yeah. I think the fact that Labor's made up lost 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.199 ground late in the race, it's just a testament of 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.440 fact that the opposition leader's campaign has been really, really, 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.280 really poor, and it's a distraction from the real issues 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.040 that are actually concerning voters that polls have shown time 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.760 and time again. It's cost living, it's crime, and we're 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.720 also not talking about some of the real big problems 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.960 in the state, which is the balloony state debt that 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.760 Queensland has and this out of control expenditure on public 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.840 sector workers as well. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.040 Yeah, and Stephen that the main point is that Darren 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.600 hinted at it as well. There are other big issues 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.040 and the disappointing thing about this and the fact that 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.400 there is this weak campaign is you've got a Labor 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.400 government that is on the precipice of at least preventing 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.080 their fourth term from being completely shattered. We're talking now 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.440 about maybe a minority government. In my opinion, I don't 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.920 think governments really should be given a fourth term, and 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.319 it was the LMP's race to win, and it was 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.600 also their race to lose. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.240 What do you make of the campaign. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.120 Well, I mean, when you talk you shouldn't get a 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.080 fourth term here in the act, maybe just got a 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.400 seventh term. But moving on from that, look, there's a 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.160 couple of things here. Nobody runs a scare campaign like 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.400 the Labor Party does when it comes to campaigning. They 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.360 are disciplined, they are effective. They run these when did 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.040 you stop beating your wife campaigns all the time. The 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.280 Liberal Party always plays into their narrative. The only politician 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.000 I've seen from the Conservative side of politics in recent 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.360 times not to let this happen is Peter Dutton. But 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.559 at a state and territory level they all let the 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.640 Labor Party set their agenda for him. And let's be 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.439 fear nikan. If you can't beat the work experienced kid 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.600 in an election campaign, well David Christopheley deserves to lose 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:22.400 this one. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.040 Yeah it's Miles. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.680 I mean some of his TikTok ads and find the 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.800 bloke a bit much with the grinning in very serious moments. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.400 He's right, if he can't beat him, he doesn't deserve 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:34.880 the job. But look, we're going to take a quick 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.760 break when we're back inside the Karmala Harris CNN town hall. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.000 Welcome back now to the US election. It is anyone's game. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.720 But this week Karmala Harris stumbled. Her buddies at CNN 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.200 took her to task at a town hall event, and 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.200 she bumbled and blustered her way through the event with 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.280 more gaffes and awkward moments than we have time to show. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.280 But of course we have to show you. Our favorite moment. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:06.360 Is a border wall. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:06.840 Stupid. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.959 Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.280 So remember Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.640 Come on, they didn't. How much of that wall did 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.760 he build? I think the last number I saw was 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.880 about two percent. And then when it came time for 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.520 him to do a photo op, you know where he 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.199 did it in the part of the wall that President 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:27.959 Obama built. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.719 But you were agreed to a bill that would ear 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.520 MOREK six hundred and fifty million dollars to continue building that. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.079 Way, I pledge that I am going to bring forward 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:41.640 that bipartisan bill to further strengthen and secure our border. Yes, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.000 I am, and I am going to work across the 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:49.880 aisle to pass a comprehensive bill that deals with a 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.880 broken immigration system. I think Jackson's question part of it 0:11:55.120 --> 0:12:00.320 was to acknowledge that America has always had migration, but 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.800 there needs to be a legal process for it. People 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.880 have to earn it, and that's the point that I 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.120 think is the most important point that can be made, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.320 which is we need a president oh is grounded in 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.320 common sense and practical outcomes, like let's just fix this thing. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.559 Let's just fix it. Why is there any ideological perspective 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.600 on it. Let's just fix the problem. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.160 To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill. It 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.440 does call for six hundred and fifty million dollars that 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.880 was ear marked under Trump to actually still go to 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:32.400 build the world. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.640 I'm not afraid of good ideas where they occurred. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.040 Say, you don't think it's stupid anymore. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.319 I think what he did and how he did it 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.559 was did not make much sense because he actually didn't 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.719 do much of anything. I just talked about that wall, right, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.000 we just talked about it. He didn't actually do much 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:48.600 of anything. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.400 But you do want to build some wall. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.400 I want to strengthen our border. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.600 Well done to Anderson Cooper for pressing Harris. We love 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.840 to see it. Let's bring the panel back in to 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.320 I mean, Darren, that was some brilliant television. A few 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.640 reasons why I think that is going to be really damaging. First, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:12.040 just on its surface, just logically. She starts off inferring 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.320 that there is a stupidity around that policy. After a 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.079 minute and thirty of talking to Anderson Cooper, she's saying, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.679 it's a great idea, we're actually doing it, and Donald 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.000 Trump didn't do enough of it. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.480 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I think the more 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.839 votacy of her, the more her momentum in the poles 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:33.280 seems to be slipping away. She refuses to identify how 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.960 she would do things differently to the Biden administration, of 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.680 which she was obviously a key member, and she refuses 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.880 to ignoie your identify any problems. At the same time, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.719 and having watched that town hall this morning today, the 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.720 viewers were all but begging her to come out and 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.559 state positions and she was completely unable to do it. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:01.200 And her response is just absolutely baffling. And I think 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.480 Trump just needs to stay the course and hope that 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.120 she keeps doing these town halls. And I think the 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.679 thing about the CNN town hall is, unlike the Fox 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.920 News onners, which you know, you're kind of a lot 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.960 of these viewers are web Trump, there's a lot of 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.040 undecided voters watching that CNN debate who would have been 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.720 very unimpressed by her performance. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.600 Yes, Stephen Darren makes such a good point CNN, there 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.400 would be a lot of moderates there. More so probably 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.200 that we're tuning into the Fox interview. That probably watched 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.800 the Fox interview thinking well, that was always going to 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:34.000 be compative. She's almost on home soil here. Really, she's 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.080 playing a home game and she's getting smashed by her 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.760 own side. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.200 Yeah, but Jack, I think that's the point, is that 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.760 an American election is not necessarily a big and getting 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.720 people from the other side to vote for you. It's 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.200 getting your own people to turn out and vote. And 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.760 that's where I think she's losing it here with CNN. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.200 But it also highlights how poor American politicians are at 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.320 their handling of the media. I mean, here in Australia 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.960 we have access to our politicians on most daily basis 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.680 and they have to polish their skills because they're going 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.120 head to head with us every day. In the US, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.400 they don't have that same access and they're not very 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.520 good at it. But then you take on top of that, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.640 put layer over the top of that. Kamala Harrison, her 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.080 word salad and her inability to articulate almost anything. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.160 Look, it's working against her. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.080 If I was I'd stop doing these town halls because 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.960 there's not winning her any votes. But I mean, Nick, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.400 did anybody understand what she just said? 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.320 Then? Yeah, it was contradictory. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.240 It said one thing, and then by the end of 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.560 it she completely flipped. You're right, though, Stephen, because people 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.280 are jd Vance. I mean, he's out press conferences getting 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.400 smashed every day, and that toughens you, It hardens you, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:41.800 it makes sure better operator. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:42.360 Yeah. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.240 I mean, it's just word salad city all the time 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.720 with her, and it seems like the Democrats have decided 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.800 the only play left for them is to demonize him. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.480 We've had these kind of weird Hitler comparisons this week. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.000 Didn't work in twenty sixteen. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.760 I mean, isn't that the most reprehensible thing you can do. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.280 I'm losing something to call my political opponent hit blah. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.280 It's just so reprehensible, Such grubby politics. Let's move on though, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.120 because King Charles Australian tour was soured this week with 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.400 an aggressive stunt by dimwit who has no place in politics. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.280 Kind of sign against our people, Get up our landmaps, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.920 give us why your style. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.000 From us, our bones. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:36.800 Our scar, our baby, our people. You we want to 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.320 training in this country, Give. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:52.960 Up and the media lapped it up. Thorpe made headlines 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.360 around the world, including talking to broadcasters in the UK 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.880 about the stunt at length, but not all spotlight is 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.760 good and eventually the story got away from Thorpe when 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.920 her office published a cartoon photo of a decapitated King 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.760 Charles with the caption you are not our King, and 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.200 the press kept eating it up. Nearly all British publications 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.520 cover the story, including The Evening Standard, the BBC and 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.320 The Sun, and the backlash was swift, with Thorpe eventually 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.399 having to release media statements that it was not her fault, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.119 just actions of her staff. Well, we think that's an 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.560 appalling and violent way to have the conversation and any 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.760 political staff or involved should have been sacked immediately. But 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.000 that wasn't the end of the story for Thorpe. She 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.560 soon took to the ABC to gloat about not having 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.680 sworn her oath of allegiance correctly. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.720 Nice were allegiance to the Queen's hairs. If you're listen 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.639 close enough, it wasn't her airs. It was her hairs 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:59.480 that I was giving my allegiance to. And now that 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.600 they're no longer here, I don't know where that. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.480 Stands, but Thorpe was soon backpedaling. Calls were mounting for 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.919 the senator who hadn't properly completed an oath to be 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.160 booted from Parliament. Soon she was back on air, promising 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:17.160 it was all a misunderstanding. That arrogant and gloating interview 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.080 she gave to the ABC morphed into a sob story 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.400 about her poor literacy skills. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:28.400 Now forgive me for not being you know, my English 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:34.800 grammar isn't as good as others, and I spoke what 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:40.800 I read, so I misspoke. And to have this country 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.800 questioned or particularly you know, people like Dutton and other 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:51.640 senators from his party, for them to question my legitimacy 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:57.240 in this job is an insult and they can't get 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:57.720 rid of me. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.359 Thorpe, who owned became a senator by leeching off the 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.040 back of Green's votes before quitting the party, probably has 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.879 realized her two hundred thousand dollars plus salary from the 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:15.920 Crown isn't worth risking. I mean a lot to unpack 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.680 there now, but essentially she managed to take the entire 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.560 media cycle for nearly a full working week with just 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.000 these bizarre acts. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:27.400 Yep, it's absurd. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.159 It's I look, whatever penalty the Senate hands down, hopefully 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.680 it's severe, but you know, starves her of the oxygen 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.240 that she cloaks so clearly and craves it was very 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.679 ugly tantrum. And she's poor value for money. I think 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.560 by the time her term is in twenty twenty eight, 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.280 she would have been paid nearly a million dollars and 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:49.159 a million a million. Yeah, So you know, if you 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.040 look at the damage she's done over the past year 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.480 taking up the Palestine fight against Israel, that's actually alienated 0:19:55.560 --> 0:20:01.520 a lot of Australian Jewish supporters of reconciliation. So she's 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.199 doing a lot of harm at the moment and has 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.320 been doing a lot of harm for some time. She's 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:07.440 poor value for money. 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.640 Good point, Steve, and your thoughts. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.000 Well, firstly, looking in to defend Lydia thought hear and say, 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.160 at least she's more articulate than Kamala Harris and every 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.719 court needs it's fool and the King's Court had that, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.200 and look, his Majesty was clearly entertained by it. He 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:23.879 led over to Alba and said, do you know if 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.720 she does bucks parties and weddings as well? 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:26.760 Look. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:31.280 I mean, she argues that other people question her legitimacy. 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.440 She questions her own legitimacy. She doesn't believe in the 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.560 authority of the parliament, yet sits in the Parliament and 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.080 takes our money under false pretenses. I mean, there's no 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.040 legitimate to see the woman, and the less oxygen we 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.280 give her the better. In three years, she'll be gone 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:46.840 and we won't have to see her ever again. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.840 I agree with that fake outrage about how dare they 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.800 question my legitimacy when she you know, it's not as 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.960 if people just out of the blue accused her of 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.200