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Speaker 1: Better than the legal.

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Speaker 2: Madge.

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Speaker 3: Compare the pressure of coaching State of Origin compared to

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Speaker 4: The difference, Maddie, I'd probably say the Origin is on steroids,

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Speaker 4: but the enormity of it in a short period of

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Speaker 4: time creates how big it is. And obviously the spotlight,

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Speaker 4: the scrutiny and the chatter around the game is what makes.

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Speaker 2: It pretty special too.

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Speaker 4: So I've thoroughly enjoyed, obviously the right of being a

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Speaker 4: part of the Origin. And when you compare them from both,

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Speaker 4: I think the longevity of what a NRL season brings

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Speaker 4: it presents a few different things compared to what it

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Speaker 4: does in Orange because it's such a short compact time.

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Speaker 5: But you can really feel it around the state. You

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Speaker 5: know what it means.

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Speaker 4: When you work at a club, you've got your maybe

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Speaker 4: five hundred thousand or a million supporters, But when you've

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Speaker 4: got a state, you've got every single where you go

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Speaker 4: everyone's talking about it.

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Speaker 2: That's you.

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Speaker 4: I want part of what you feel from I guess

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Speaker 4: the community and people when you're talking about Origin, the.

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Speaker 3: Benefit you've got, Madge, and it's actually I'll take a

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Speaker 3: step back with there. One thing I have noticed in

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Speaker 3: the State of origin right the way across the board.

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Speaker 3: But I've seen it certainly in the last decade, is

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Speaker 3: that most coaches who go in going nice and relaxed,

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Speaker 3: year by year you see them getting more edgy and intense.

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Speaker 2: Its usually year three really keeps in.

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Speaker 3: It's almost there are exceptions mal of course, with an

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Speaker 3: exception and Wayne's clever. Wayne goes in for a series,

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Speaker 3: dips out and goes back in again. But being a

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Speaker 3: club coach, all the stuff you've been through, pushing good

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Speaker 3: stead lighter, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well I've probably seen most of it, Maddie, from highs

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Speaker 4: and lows and the pressures. But it's something there that

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to have a crack aut was the origin,

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Speaker 4: watch it as the um Blake all the way through

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Speaker 4: and then watched some good mates go in and coach

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Speaker 4: at times and thought, it's something there that I'd love

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Speaker 4: to be able to do.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that I've probably.

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Speaker 4: Faced most things in the game now, I'm just getting

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Speaker 4: a lot of enjoyment out of coaching the top end

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Speaker 4: of the talent, you know. And I had obviously the

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Speaker 4: fortunate experiences of doing that with the kiwis as well,

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Speaker 4: where when you're catching the best and you get the

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Speaker 4: players and all you are in my.

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Speaker 2: Position year it is actually coaching.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the best jobs really because you're not

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Speaker 4: having to worry about all the perofal stuff that's going

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Speaker 4: on other than the players just coming in and just

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Speaker 4: focusing on being at their best, and that's been really enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you that then, match on coaching the very

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Speaker 3: best players, because you're a very thorough disciplined coach, very

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Speaker 3: thorough disciplined person.

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Speaker 2: Is there a discipline itself not to overcoach at that level?

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Speaker 4: If you check yourself, I think I've probably learned a

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Speaker 4: fair bit as a younger coach and then going through to.

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Speaker 2: Where I am now.

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Speaker 4: Definitely you coach the talent that I have in the

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Speaker 4: orage differently than what you do at Clubland.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have the young eighteen year old.

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Speaker 4: You've got the top of the tree, so you're utilizing

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Speaker 4: a lot of their knowledge and their expertise, and they're smarts,

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Speaker 4: so sometimes you don't have to catch at all.

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Speaker 5: You just got to make sure that you present them

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Speaker 3: And you know, I really enjoy talking with the top end,

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Speaker 3: because you are talking about the niche of how we're

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Speaker 3: going to play the game, and they understand it very

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Speaker 3: quickly and they can go and do it. I saw

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Speaker 3: Jake in this second series, you're seeing the build up

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Speaker 3: every time the camera has putting me.

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Speaker 2: He looked far more comfortable in his role as captain.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Matt, What did you learn personally as

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Speaker 3: far as build up pressure pre.

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Speaker 2: Game in Game one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I learned a lot.

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Speaker 4: Obviously the circumstance of that game, definitely through a curve

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Speaker 4: board at me. You know, I think I prepared for everything,

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Speaker 4: but probably what happened. Yeah, so it happened quickly. But

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Speaker 4: I tell you what it did teach me was the

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Speaker 2: I learned a lot about the players themselves.

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Speaker 4: That you do get stretched in a garden lot that

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Speaker 4: to be playing for seventy four minutes with twelve players,

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Speaker 4: you really get to find out about your players. And

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Speaker 4: I was really proud of the players. Once we sort

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Speaker 4: of regroupped, you know, myself included. We regrouped and got

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Speaker 4: the team in the right headspace with about ten minutes

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Speaker 4: Togo in that first half, all of a sudden you

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Speaker 4: and what they showed and the fight. Something there that

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Speaker 4: I saw within the players. When you've got twelve players,

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Speaker 4: you've got bigger spaces. They had to work a lot harder.

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Speaker 4: And I obviously get all the data and the information

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Speaker 4: and our middles. You'll be blown away by the numbers

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Speaker 4: that some of the players had in around their GPS

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Speaker 4: data being able to put the efforts in that they

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Speaker 4: were doing throughout that game. So yeah, please, But I.

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Speaker 2: Learned a lot.

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Speaker 3: One of your strengths of coaching match is to recognize

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Speaker 3: when the things haven't worked and then adjust. Now, the

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Speaker 3: best example I can give you is what you did

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Speaker 3: last year with the Couboys. First up against the os

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Speaker 3: is the City Championships. You just really struggled. Then by

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Speaker 3: the final, you know, you gave them a bath. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what is that match? Is that you're sitting just pouring

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Speaker 4: A little bit of that many but actually probably spending

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Speaker 4: more time just with my players to get another players. Look,

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to get back into the third campaign

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Speaker 4: now because we're at a different level again. You know

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Speaker 4: from the first time when the players walked in they're

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Speaker 4: probably wondering who they all madges and who the staff are.

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Speaker 4: And then we rowled into our second campaign and they

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Speaker 4: And now obviously we'll roll into our third one where

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Speaker 4: we're at a high level again and no doubt opposition

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Speaker 4: are going to be doing the same. But we're pretty

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Speaker 3: Onto now by accidental design match we just talk about

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Speaker 3: the selections. You and Billy have almost yinged and yang

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Speaker 3: as far as selections from game one to game two.

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Speaker 3: Game one, our team was very much grit, grind out last.

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Speaker 3: Billy went for pick a team's going to score points.

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Speaker 3: What's funny is in game two Billy brought in players

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Speaker 3: who were out last. You picked aside more about points.

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Speaker 3: Did you recognize that or is it just been just

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Speaker 4: I think the team in the second one we're still

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Speaker 4: about what we spoke about, but I guess it's also too,

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Speaker 4: who's available. I started with a squad of thirty five

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Speaker 4: when I first got the players in January and spoke

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Speaker 4: some stage someone's going to get an opportunity and someone

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Speaker 4: may have to sit out and come game two. The

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Speaker 4: players that I selected what I believe were the best

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Speaker 4: able to bring in some pretty handy ones in camp.

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Speaker 4: so being able to get your bench a certain way

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Speaker 3: Talk about the halves match who fantastic. Firstly, Mitch Moss

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Speaker 3: best out of his career. The performance matched the swagger. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's now, and I thought this was really important. You know,

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Speaker 3: Mitchell's a very headstrong, forthright sort of bloke. Did he

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Speaker 4: I've spoken to Mitch quite a bit prior to coming

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Speaker 4: And Mitch he worked really hard, obviously to try and

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Speaker 4: Origin two comes about, and he came into camp full

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Speaker 4: And I think Jerome too, he look, you watch Jerome here, like,

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Speaker 4: I've been so pleased with Jerome about how he's gone

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Speaker 4: appreciation for Rami is he's a very smart player and

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Speaker 4: the way he broke down the game and then you

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Speaker 3: I reckon he played with more poise and control than

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Speaker 3: I've seen before. And it's funny you said there about

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Speaker 3: you know, he's real smart because he's so through williant.

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Speaker 3: Times you sort of underestimate that part of his game,

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Speaker 3: and it's funny the other times. The other thing too,

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Speaker 3: I think it's unfair on your own. He's a very

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Speaker 3: exuberant character. He's coming here at Fox Sports before. What

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Speaker 3: a fantastic guy. Everyone spoke so highly of him, and

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Speaker 3: he's been criticized saying that, but yeah, there was no

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Speaker 2: The bus or any of that match. He's pretty quiet.

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Speaker 4: Actually, he's a family man, like what I guess everyone's

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Speaker 4: perceived and the world creates that. But when you get

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Speaker 4: brings a lot of energy, which you know he required.

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Speaker 4: But I just felt that he's probably now at the

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Speaker 4: played a path or a part in how Penrith had

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Speaker 4: played over years, but you've got to remember they're won

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Speaker 4: three Grand finals four they've been four Grand finals, so

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Speaker 4: he's played a part. And now obviously he's experided his

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Speaker 4: game in a different way. So it'd be really interesting

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Speaker 4: to watch him as he moves.

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Speaker 2: Forward to a penalils.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask you a question, and I'm

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Speaker 3: always certain I know the reply, but I'm going to

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Speaker 3: ask it anyway. You've got a bloke who's on the cusp.

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Speaker 3: We're returning in Nathan Cleary, who is the best playmaker

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Speaker 3: be ten out of ten, is there any place for

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Speaker 3: him in the squad?

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Speaker 4: The guy I've had a lot of discussions with Nath

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Speaker 4: all the way through, and I know what he would

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Speaker 4: say too. He says, you don't change what's working, And

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Speaker 4: Nath came up and Tommy came up. You know, when

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Speaker 5: The supporters as well. I've got a lot of that

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Speaker 3: Tom's provoid it right, and what we've seen with Billy

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Speaker 2: Like Tom Abilly did with Cobber. Tommy will be much

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 4: That's the one thing I have learned about that you

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Speaker 3: We've spoken for a Mitchell most starting the game well,

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Speaker 3: Stephen Crichton versus hammersa was prime time rivalry and early

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Speaker 3: Hammers Stephen Crichton. Little things like that, like that first

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you've got to win your little battles.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've always spoken about that matter, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: But what you see there in Creta know is what

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Speaker 4: You've got to have that dominance to be able to

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Speaker 4: allow the boys on the edges. But someone like critter

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Speaker 4: And look, everyone's spoken about it, but I've been able

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Speaker 4: that's a fair credit to a young bloke coming through

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Speaker 2: Creator is a defender and I haven't seen a better defense.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the best center As far as decision

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Speaker 3: maintenance concerned, Madge, it was very funny.

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Speaker 2: He'd keept like there was never appeared to be a

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he attacked him, other times he sat and went

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Speaker 3: backwards again. Was it a tactic or was it simply

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Speaker 2: A little bit of both.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, many look the position that Cretit gets

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Speaker 4: I reckon he's one of the best in the game

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Speaker 3: In a second, we'll have a look at Latrell Mitchell

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Speaker 3: and as an example of his power and his presence.

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Speaker 3: But what about his power and presence within the team? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Match?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, one thing Latrell, you know he probably is incredited

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Speaker 4: Latrell has that presence. We all know that, and it's

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Speaker 4: nice to see. He's got a real smile on his

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Speaker 4: have said that, you know. And the one thing he said, mate,

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Speaker 3: It was good look watching those two blokes, Crichton and

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Speaker 3: Latrell on our side a great feeling because as a

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful work by Jerome.

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Speaker 2: But you see this with Val and Xavier.

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Speaker 3: Coach Xavier just can't you can see he just can't

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Speaker 4: The drew work of Ramey and Mitch together just subtly

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Speaker 2: Doing a great job.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, if you're a center and you've got

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Speaker 2: And that's how the game's breaking down, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely it is match, And you know, little things make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dron just.

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Speaker 3: Gave a nice liuball. But as you know, he's timing

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Speaker 3: of that pass was just perfect. One or two steps just.

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Speaker 2: To commit, get the line the whole a little bit

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you watch Raimi, especially probably over the last

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Speaker 5: You know, with Nathan not being there, he is playing straight.

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Speaker 4: He likes the bounce, I guess inside, but he's got

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Speaker 4: that's what you're building when you're out the field.

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Speaker 3: Angus Crichton one of the best stories in the game

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Speaker 3: of the moment because I haven't seen a career turn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: I mean when Angus came through, I remember his coming

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Speaker 2: To house and he's pound for pound.

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Speaker 4: I reckon he's one of the most powerful players that

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Speaker 4: It's they're special moments to see a player go through

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Speaker 2: It's good to see, as you really went out and

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Speaker 3: Therewoods picked him in Game one, he couldn't play because

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Speaker 3: He didn't disappoint your mate. Full credit to Teddy two.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the champions of the game

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Speaker 2: But I just felt it was time for Dylan.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's been doing it for years and he

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Speaker 3: Watching him match, you know, a lot of times I

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Speaker 4: It's even before that matter, it's his support player that

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Speaker 4: He's got the ability to be able to get himself

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Speaker 3: The role of thaih and Jake Trevoivich, they're soon to

441
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,360
Speaker 3: be in game to match. Far more of an attitude

442
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,640
Speaker 3: to just get forward, but less of a pass attitude

443
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 3: run first past second. Particularly with Isaiah, you know, because

444
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,360
Speaker 3: he's at Penrith, he operates just about like a half back.

445
00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,120
Speaker 3: Was that your decision, your tactic or was it these

446
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,120
Speaker 3: blokes just reacting on the run to what they saw.

447
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's more what they saw mad his eyes. Actually,

448
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 4: he's really strong when he does run the ball. I

449
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,680
Speaker 4: mean that's one thing. Like you watch him here, he's

450
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,880
Speaker 4: got a powerful running game. And I guess because you're

451
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 4: watching club Land and he plays a certain style, well,

452
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of what you're seeing now is

453
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 4: that he's actually got one hell of a running game

454
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 4: as well. He's got the ability to play the ball

455
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Speaker 4: and build speed. So that's about recognizing how we want

456
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,360
Speaker 4: to play. And you see good push there and he's

457
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 4: drawing in three defenders there, which is taking a fear

458
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 4: bit of juice out of the opposition.

459
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Speaker 3: Game one, they went to our right edge a lot

460
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Speaker 3: and really tested out, test out Zach and they went

461
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 3: there in the second half in game too and had

462
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Speaker 3: a little bit of joy. Any concerns they're about tidying

463
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: up that edge a little bit.

464
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Speaker 4: We'll definitely go back into camp and look at those

465
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Speaker 4: maney They're the things that you know the playing group

466
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Speaker 4: will talk about.

467
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Speaker 5: Yep, you know they've already spoken about that and how

468
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 5: we want to look at things.

469
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 4: So getting back into camp and going through the areas

470
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Speaker 4: of what we want to improve on, it's definitely part

471
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Speaker 4: of what.

472
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Speaker 2: The group's about. Queensland. Imagine.

473
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Speaker 3: I know that both you and Bility don't like to

474
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 3: talk about the opposition, but you know it's do you

475
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Speaker 3: anticipate change it chat? Well, there would be a change

476
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 3: Avia coach as Daney's hamstring. So it looks as they

477
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: probably saw when may come back into the side. David FRAFRIEDA,

478
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Speaker 3: what do you think do you think can you see

479
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 3: him coming.

480
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Speaker 2: Into the squad, do you honest, Maddy, I don't know.

481
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: I guess yeah.

482
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 4: They've gone down the path where they pick and stick

483
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 4: and they talk about that, so you know, they'll present

484
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 4: whatever it is that we need to play, and then

485
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 4: we'll go about our prep to make sure we nuther

486
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 4: find whatever's in front of us.

487
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: Their coinsland us.

488
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 3: It's funny games and it's so entertaining, the Origin game

489
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: through mat It's son Corps Stadium.

490
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: Now.

491
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 3: In the past there's been so many ambushes at sun

492
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: Corps Stadium and people say, well, no, no, that's not

493
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: an ambush because they knew what was coming.

494
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: Well, new stuff. Wild sides have known what they're going into.

495
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 3: But even then they underestimate the intensity and the ferocity

496
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: of what they have to endure and go through up there.

497
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 3: And they oftentimes say that it doesn't matter how well

498
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: you prepare if it's your first game up there, until

499
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 3: you've gone through it, you've got no idea.

500
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 2: But how do you prepare it match? What are you

501
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: going to do?

502
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

503
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Speaker 4: Well, I think everyone around us, even yourself, is talking

504
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 4: about it, so we know exactly what we're walking into.

505
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 5: And it's been done a number of times before. To

506
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 5: be able to go up there and do it.

507
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 4: So I guess you take all that that's part of history,

508
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 4: but you can also build your own history. And I

509
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 4: guess the walks of my coaching career is that you

510
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: can always do it if you're they want to. So

511
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: I'll bring the group back together again and we'll talk

512
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: about how we want to be as a team, and

513
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 4: you know, we'll keep it fairly focused within around how

514
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 4: we go about I.

515
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: Thinks members too.

516
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Mortimer, he is the one the first series one he

517
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: made the bus go down caston Street and he made

518
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: him look and basically lead the hate feed the site

519
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: to an extent on that match. The moment you take

520
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: the side into the city of Brisbane, there's going.

521
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: To be hostility.

522
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: They're going to get it from all different areas, kind

523
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: of come from everywhere. When will the side we moved

524
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Speaker 3: to Brisbane.

525
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: We'll go up there on the Sunday prior to rolling

526
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: into the Monday Tuesday and then play on the Wednesday.

527
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Speaker 5: But that's all part of it. Money look forward to that,

528
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 5: that's right.

529
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 4: I mean, we had the hot obviously here in Sydney,

530
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 4: and the players regarded that we went able to give

531
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 4: our crew know what they would have liked and then

532
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 4: going down to New Melbourne and have a ninety thousand

533
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 4: and we'll go up there and everyone's telling us about

534
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 4: the hostility, but you know, as a group, we'll get

535
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: together and plan how we want to be as a

536
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 4: team and go up there and get stucky.

537
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: When you go into a camp, represent a camp as

538
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: a player, you go in there sometimes and there's always

539
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 3: that one player that really surprises you different ways. It

540
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: could be personality, could be their skill, intensity, preparation, whatever

541
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: it is in there, which players surprised you.

542
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: Match, that's a good one. Leam, Martyrs and Beauty. He's

543
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: a good character to have around. Quiet, but then you're

544
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: see him more across the white line and be mad. Yeah,

545
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 4: it's been able to look after him. But I've got

546
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 4: to say a lot of the players have all surprised me.

547
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 4: Paint House made he's an incredible athlete, incredible person. He's

548
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 4: very impressive. Yeah, So I don't really want to sort

549
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 4: of just isolate one of them. Yeah, may because they

550
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: are all unique in their own way, and they've all

551
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 4: bought into what.

552
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Speaker 2: We're trying to create with this group.

553
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like we spoke about Jerome like he's great

554
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: Latrell you know in his own certain ways. He's come

555
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: into camp to Dylan zach Laimax like he had plenty

556
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 4: of challenges at the start of the year and made

557
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: he's one of the four players running around.

558
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Speaker 1: So he'll get challenged, no doubt in this next game.

559
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: And you have plenty of people you're doing an injustice imagine.

560
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's starting to he's looking like a

561
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: very good wing. Just just finish with and we're going

562
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: to go into club land. But the bloke at the

563
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: moment on blown when we spoke abou him a couple

564
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: of times. But Stephen Crichton, is there a better player

565
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: in the game right at the moment than Crichton. He's

566
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: well and truly out there. And I mean that's what

567
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: your class is a better player. I think what he's

568
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: doing on and off the field, you'd class him up

569
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: there with some of the best. And I guess you

570
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: know one thing I probably didn't talk about with someone

571
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: like a Russy Robinson in and around the middle. There

572
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: he's a player in the middle that probably doesn't get

573
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: too many raps. That's the style of player. When you're

574
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: talking about a great player like he's locked down our middle.

575
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 4: And you've got to remember in that first game he

576
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: played eighty minutes as a hooker and he's the one

577
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 4: buzzing around and didn't come off.

578
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: So you're looking at efforts like that.

579
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 4: I think players like that represent, you know, the Stephen

580
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: Crichtons and the roofs and those style of plans.

581
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: Well, Madge, congratulations again. Make game two, but game three

582
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: coming up. Enjoy all the hostility, all the build up,

583
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: all the pressure. I know you will. Thanks, Mate's good

584
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: on your mat. TRAMHM