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Speaker 1: Didi and with her with Kate Richie podcast Tell.

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Speaker 2: You What I'm Loving Dickie's Diary at the moment. We

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Speaker 2: spoke to Richard Wilkins about his interview with Prince and

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Speaker 2: now it is a bit of a disaster, but that

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Speaker 2: turned around and he had an hour chat with one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest artists of all time. Stra some of

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Speaker 2: these interviews that he's finding And obviously we need to

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Speaker 2: speak to Dicky about Tina Turner today as well, and

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Speaker 2: he joins us now welcome Richie.

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Speaker 1: Did you morning team, morning, morning morning.

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Speaker 2: A busy morning for you this morning with the passing

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Speaker 2: of Tina Turner.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to meet her, Dickie, No doubt I did.

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Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of interviewing several times over the years,

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Speaker 1: and when she performs at the Grand Final in Sydney

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, I had the honor of walking

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Speaker 1: out on stage and saying, ladies and gentlemen, Tina turn Us.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Ken Arthurson and John Quail and the late

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Speaker 1: Brian Walsh said to Mete, as soon as she's finished,

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Speaker 1: can you get out there and just ask her a

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Speaker 1: couple of questions And because we want to get some

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Speaker 1: more vision of her to keep her out there for

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Speaker 1: a of minutes. Yeah, I said, you need to check

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Speaker 1: with the manager, Roger Davies about that. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no worries booking to Roger. Anyway, I came. I did

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Speaker 1: that and they said, great stuff, We've got all the

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Speaker 1: visions we want. Was terrific. Digging well then, and I said,

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Speaker 1: did you check with Roger about that? She wasn't you

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Speaker 1: know that friendly out there? I didn't think and they said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we asked him. He said, no. Was she great behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, Dickie, What was she like? She was lovely,

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Speaker 1: so professional, such a true artist. You know, she was

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Speaker 1: no bull she was. She'd come through tough times obviously

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Speaker 1: in those early days. The domestic violence was something she

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Speaker 1: grew up with. The mum disappeared, her dad brown off.

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Speaker 1: She grew up with the big family. She really did

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Speaker 1: pick cotton down the south there and Brownsville, Tennessee, and

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Speaker 1: Nutbush and all that, and then came through found fame

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Speaker 1: with her abusive husband, Ike, who renamed her Tina because

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Speaker 1: of course she was born animate bullock. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: she found fame and then it all went sower. She

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Speaker 1: ran off in the middle of the night with thirty

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Speaker 1: cents in the pocket and pleaded for a motel room

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Speaker 1: for the night and then started to rebuild her life

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Speaker 1: and career and it was really the comeback for the

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Speaker 1: ages in her forties when Australian Roger Davies the above

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Speaker 1: mentioned started managing her and founder a song called What's

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Speaker 1: Love Got to Do with It? And put together the

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Speaker 1: Private Dancer album and hence her close relationship with Australia

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Speaker 1: not only the rugby league but the mad Max Beyond Thunderdone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what a great girl. Why did she end up living

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Speaker 1: where she did?

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Speaker 2: Was it Switzerland? And urch?

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Speaker 1: Was? She met a book called Irwin Dark who she's

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Speaker 1: still married to. He's about thirty years younger than from memory.

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Speaker 1: He was a young German record company guy in the

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Speaker 1: early days when she was putting it all back together,

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Speaker 1: and he persisted and eventually won her charms and they

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Speaker 1: got married and I don't think she's ever been happier.

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Speaker 1: He famously gave her one of his kidneys a few

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Speaker 1: years back when she needed it transplant right, and they

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Speaker 1: lived at Lake Zurich. Pretty fancy pad. I believe in

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Speaker 1: Switzerland she renounced her American citizenship and she had to

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Speaker 1: to become a Swiss citizen, and that's where she lived

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Speaker 1: in recent times, battling illness, and presumably that's where she

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Speaker 1: passed away.

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Speaker 2: Where we know that you're busy this morning. Have we

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Speaker 2: got a bit of time to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: Madonna or do you have to get going? Dickie? What

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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a fit bit of stuff today. Boys, how

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Speaker 1: long you've got? How well got well?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to talk because we spoke about

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Speaker 2: Prince and how prickly that that interview was with Prince,

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Speaker 2: But then you sat down with Madonna. This is Dickie's diaries.

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Speaker 2: Now you can go find this each week on nine Honey.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. But when you start an interview with Madonna

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like this, Dicky, I think you're in

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Speaker 2: a bit of trouble. You feel the pressures be specific,

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Speaker 2: there's the pressure of what so she's not into it?

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Speaker 1: Dicky?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell everyone things started down a bit sideways

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Speaker 2: when you realize that there was a bottle of tequila

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Speaker 2: in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Well, Madonna, I've really did Madonna many times, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think i'd get on the right with her. But

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Speaker 1: she treats an interview as sort of sport, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that was in New York. Rived in New York City,

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Speaker 1: got off the plane. I was going to see Fleetwood

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Speaker 1: Mac that night too. We digressed, but anyway, it was

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Speaker 1: just some big art gallery up on somewhere in New York.

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Speaker 1: And back in the days before Zoom and the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: he used to jump on a plane and go and

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Speaker 1: talk to her.

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Speaker 2: I remember those days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good days. Anyway, she treats it as sport. And

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Speaker 1: she did I think four interview interviews for the world,

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Speaker 1: probably me in the American Pom and somebody else I

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Speaker 1: don't know. And anyway, she had a bottle of tequila

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Speaker 1: there and she said, all right, if you ask a

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Speaker 1: really good question, I'll have a drink. And if you

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Speaker 1: and if you asked a really stupid question that you

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Speaker 1: haven't drink judge. So she I asked her a few

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Speaker 1: questions and she's, you know, she's having a bit of

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Speaker 1: fun something and she she swore or something. I said,

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Speaker 1: come on, you need to have a drink now, and

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Speaker 1: she said, no, I make up the rules. Don't argue

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Speaker 1: with me. And then she's Then I said something, you know,

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Speaker 1: with this album changing things around, she said, Oh, here

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Speaker 1: we go the reinvention question. Drink up.

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Speaker 2: Here is the audio. This is where she hates that question.

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Speaker 2: Dickie asked he and this was her reaction.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, real invention question of the real mention.

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Speaker 2: I always answer the same way.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not calculating anything like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a bottle of gin?

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Speaker 2: How How did you have a few, Dickie? I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you know what? There was a smile on her

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Speaker 2: face though you guys had a good bond by the

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Speaker 2: looks of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's she's great. I've spoken to her so

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Speaker 1: many times. She's just she's just fine. She's What do

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Speaker 1: you want, Dicky?

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Speaker 2: We know you busy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a couple of questions about Cyndy

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Speaker 1: Lauper if we could okay, look, I got to go.

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Speaker 3: Good on youg thanks for your time, mate, of horrific

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Speaker 3: stuff in there as well, but we could not pay

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Speaker 3: on here Love You?

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