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Speaker 1: We have spent three million dollars collectively tackling that. And

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Speaker 1: It's a high number, isn't it? Across the board? How's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a high number. But we also have

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Speaker 2: which is the most important thing writer, is to really

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Speaker 1: What do councils rely on volunteers to do this as

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Speaker 2: It's actually a really popular job on the volunteer list.

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Speaker 2: We have five hundred volunteers with a City of Pae

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Speaker 2: We also have our rapid response teams. On the weekends

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Speaker 1: Okay, repid rests, so just weekends or do you go

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Speaker 1: How many items of graffiti pieces whatever the term is

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Speaker 2: I think the Advertiser actually had that number in now.

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Speaker 1: Some of it is in ridiculously impossible to reach. You

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Speaker 1: Know exactly exactly, but this is part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: So graffiti vandals because that's what they are, ultimately respectful

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, clear, but I appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank mirror, the city of Port Adelaide and Enfield.

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Speaker 1: I have dug up the Onka Paringa figures here in

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Speaker 1: two thousand pieces of graffiti. It's unreal, isn't it. Let's

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Speaker 1: meet Alex America. Alex is a graffiti cleanup volunteer. He

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Speaker 3: Yes, look, thanks for talking to me about this. And

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Speaker 3: anybody that does these sort of grubby jobs deserves so

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Speaker 3: you do for the community, or I do for the community.

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Speaker 3: And I started doing it in nineteen ninety eight. I

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Speaker 3: I like the people here. I can't work anymore. I

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Speaker 1: And you do it seven days a week pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Goodness. So I understand if you know, you see a

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is. And you know, I started using a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, that's excellent, And people come and give

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Speaker 1: Excellent, Alex, well, good for you. And what's the worst

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Speaker 3: Well, look I'm up here at Shadow Partner how it coved.

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Speaker 1: Unreal, unreal. All right, Alex, thank you for your time

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Speaker 1: it's fantastic and people just like you all over the

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Speaker 1: great for the community. Thanks for your time, Alex, Good

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Speaker 3: a certain amount of respect even from the vandals themselves

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Speaker 3: it would be a really good thing if we had

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Speaker 1: Hey, I imagine when you turn up to a place

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Speaker 1: or a bench or whatever it is, you must just

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Speaker 1: But what are you thinking, what do you think of

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Speaker 3: Well? Look, I think that maybe they had a pass

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Speaker 3: And I think to myself, for look, there's one thing

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Speaker 3: And they're not going to thank me. I don't even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fantastic, great attitude, Alex again, thank you for your.

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Speaker 3: Time, No wayes wrong. You have a great day.

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Speaker 1: You too. Alex America, who is a volunteer in the

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Speaker 1: Marian Council. As he said, he lives around Shido Park

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Speaker 1: and make sure his part of Adelaide is spotless in

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Speaker 1: terms of graffiti. A clean up volunteer, twenty six years

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Speaker 1: at it. There's only missed thirty one days in that time.

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Speaker 1: That's unreal, isn't it good? Is that