WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 16 January 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.600 Lately, Welcome Late Debate. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.840 Good evening, thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.600 James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up tonight. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.600 A new list of heritage locations includes sites. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.079 On the Moon. We'll talk about that a little later. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.440 Plus when we look at the papers, Federal court judges 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:27.000 spending tens of thousands of your dollars on lavish lunches, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.319 and Victorian police clogging up the courts as part of 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.479 their pay dispute with the government. We'll get to all 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.720 of that when we look at tomorrow's newspapers. But first, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.800 the hostage release deal between Israel and Hamas looks on 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.840 the verge of collapse tonight. Israel has accused him Us 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.479 of trying to change the deal at the last minute. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.720 Now, the deal was that there. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.440 Would be three stages of hostage releases. The first stage 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.440 would be thirty three Jewish hostages in exchange for about 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:02.640 one thousand Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails. As part 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.319 of the deal, Israel had the right to veto which 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.200 of those Palestinian prisoners was released, to ensure there was 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.880 not a release of mass murderers or of people who 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.320 would symbolize terrorism. But according to the Israeli government, at 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.720 the last moment, Hamas has insisted that they will dictate 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.640 which Palestinian prisoners are released from Israeli jails. Surely an 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.240 intolerable situation for Israel if that is true. The Israeli 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.759 Cabinet was due to meet to approve the deal. They 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:37.160 hadn't met before this change of terms by Hamas, and 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.440 so Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettan Yahoo earlier this evening 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.960 put out this statement. He said, and I quote, Hamas 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.160 is backing out of the explicit understandings agreed upon with 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.080 the mediators and Israel in a last minute blackmail attempt. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.720 Israel will not set a date for a cabinet and 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.200 government meeting until the mediators announced that Hamas has approved 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:03.640 all the details of the arrangement. So this casts the 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.440 entire deal now into doubt, which must be incredibly traumatic 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.320 for Jewish families who were expecting and hoping for the 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.880 release of family members over the next couple of weeks. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.600 Don't forget those hostages include a five year old and 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.200 a two year old child who have been held in 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.520 Gaza for the past fifteen months. You can only imagine 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.480 the turmoil that family members must be going through. The 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:35.160 whole deal was strange. It really involved the release of 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.480 tomorrow's hostage takers in exchange for today's hostages. So there 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.679 were already questions on the Israeli side about whether or 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.400 not this was a good deal. And of course Caleb, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.600 now the whole thing looks like it may collapse before 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:50.680 it even gets underway. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.880 Yeah, well, clearly what Hamas is trying to do here 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.000 is see how far they can push this bag and 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.200 how desperate Israel is to get these hostages back. The 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.880 reality is that Israel doesn't need to end this war. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.160 It's much more in the interests of Hamas that this 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.840 war ends than it is in the interests of Israel, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.480 because Israel has endless capability to keep on going. Hamas 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.920 at some point runs out of options and AMMO and 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.560 potentially people. And it's been far more destructive for the 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.760 people of Gaza than it has been for the people 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.560 of Israel. So the need to get out of this 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.400 war is far more for Hamas, and they know that 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.200 Israel would continue to fight this forever if they had 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.560 the option, Except for the fact that those hostages are there, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.920 and Israel puts a high price and high value on 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.680 its people, and so it wants them back. Hence the 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.200 deal you had on the table, which if you look 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.800 at it from a Hamas perspective, was pretty good for 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.160 Hamas in terms of the number of people they would 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.640 get back from Israeli prisons in exchange for the hostages 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.200 they were handing over. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.080 It looked like a pretty good deal. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.520 To me, I would say to Hamas, don't look a 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.440 gift horse in the mouth, because if they don't come 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.640 to the table here, Israel will just keep right on going. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.000 And we know what Trump has threatened to do if 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.440 this continues in the way it does. The problem I 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.240 suppose for Israel is that if they concede to this 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.560 and say, okay, well you can now choose the prisoners 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.600 you get back, they're giving more ground to Hamas. And 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.400 of course Hamas are going to choose the people that 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.279 they want to come back and run the organization after 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.320 they've lost Sinowa, etc. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:31.080 Right, So you can hardly well himself correctly, So. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.599 You can hardly let them do that if this deal 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.960 is to be taken seriously in any way. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.120 But we don't know what else is the details of 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:40.880 this agreement. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:46.880 It's not purely a prisoner swap versus hostage swap. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.960 We simply don't know. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.400 And this is why these things do my head in 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:56.480 because essentially we end up speculating on speculation endlessly, because 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.640 there is so much invested, and indeed, the world a 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.000 way to with baited breath to find out how this 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:09.119 negotiation ends up going essentially means whether we may see 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.280 a war with Iran or not. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.599 So even people who may on the face of it look. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.120 Like they don't even have a dog in the fight, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.760 everyone actually does. The world is looking on one does 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.880 wonder what this is going to look like. We've only 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.040 got five more days of the Biden administration left, so 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.280 it may be that all of the credit after Biden 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.760 mopped the idea today, all of the credit will end 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.840 up going to the Trump administration if we don't see 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.680 any moves on this in the next five days. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.599 Yeah, I just I have a problem with Trump claiming 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.200 credit for a deal that seems so lopsided. I mean, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.320 the other part of the deal, aside from thirty three 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.640 israelis for a thousand Palestinian prisoners. That's civilians, for people 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.839 who have engaged in terrorism. Is that stage three of 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:02.159 the deal means that Gaza began to be reconstructed. And 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.480 the only reason Garza has been leveled is because Israel 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:10.080 went in to get their babies, their wives, their girls, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:15.000 their sons back after being taken hostage. But Hamas have said, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.160 you must begin reconstruction of Gaza before we'll release can 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.520 you believe it the remains of hostages. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.440 Who have died. So that's how inhumane Hamas is. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.320 They are holding dead corpses bodies back as part of 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.119 this exchange, and you don't get your bodies back until 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.160 you begin reconstruction. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.120 The problem is, though, that the deal has to be lopsided, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.960 basically because both sides essentially have nothing to lose except 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.840 for those hostages that are sitting there. That's the only 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.880 reason that this deal is on the table at all. Right, Israel, 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.440 as I said before, could continue to fight this war. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.240 They could go even harder than they have now. If 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.440 they really wanted to wipe out a mass, they could 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.159 go really hard and go in there and just blow 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:00.800 up the whole of Gars. They could have done that 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.720 at any time, and they haven't done it. And Hamas 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.880 has nothing to lose, really, because we know that they're 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.720 quite happy to put guards and people in harm's way 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.280 to achieve the ends of their organization. The Enns ultimately 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.880 are to kill all Jews and take over the land. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.320 So they've got allies like Australia calling for the arrest 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.480 of the Israeli Prime Minister for charges of genocide. So 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.120 some would argue Hamas have already achieved more than they 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.560 probably imagine. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.320 The most certainly, but if you want to get those 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.640 you're not going to get those hostages back without conceding 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.520 something to Hamas. That is the reality of the situation. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.440 It's not in Hamas's interest to go in an equal 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.680 deal with Israel because Hamas doesn't really get the. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.880 Only leverage that they are exactly. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.960 So that's that's all. That's all you're going to get. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.360 And I understand that that then potentially means the continuation 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.440 of Hamas for longer. But when it comes to those 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.920 families in Israel right now who want their family members back, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.520 if it means that Hamas exists for teen years longer 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.680 than an otherwise might have, this is a problem that 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.200 can be dealt with it another time potentially, But if 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.600 you're one of those families in Israel, you want your 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.000 family member back right now. And so you can understand 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.680 why Israel and those families would be willing to make 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.160 concessions to Hamas to get those people back. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.480 Well, I'll tell you one person who's cheering for Hamas, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.200 and that's Australian Green's leader Adam Bant. He put out 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:30.160 a statement earlier today condemning Israel's invasion of Gaza As. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.360 If you know this invasion wasn't prompted by two hundred 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:38.000 and fifty one innocent civilians being taken hostage by Hamas, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.840 But anyway, that's Adam Bant for you. Speaking of Adam Bant, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.559 he was out on the Hustings today promising that if 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.320 at the next federal election the Australian Greens have the 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.080 balance of power, Adam Bant is promising a new golden 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.680 era for all Australians. Can you imagine that Adam Bant 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.479 and the Greens ushering in a golden era for Hamas. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.360 Maybe have listened to some of what Adam Bant said 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:02.920 here he is. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.360 We are within a few months of an election that 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:15.120 could result in a minority parliament that could see us 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.640 getting dental and mental health into medicare, being able to 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.280 go and see the GP for free building homes that 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.600 renters and first home buyers can afford, wiping student debt, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.560 and fully funding our public schools. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.480 These are all doable. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.720 The Greens will be announcing a series of costed policies 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.640 to make it happen, and will fund it through our 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.920 robin hood reforms. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.800 Lizy talked about a golden era of progressive reform. Why 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.160 are left hees always talk about complete annihilation as progressive reform. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.160 If you want to know what Australia would look like 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.000 under golden era of progressive reform, have a look at 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:53.680 Los Angeles. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.360 I would suggest that's will end up like. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.760 It's funny how his golden era sounds a lot like 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:04.720 a socialist Everything is free, dental health, mental health covered 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:09.000 by medicare, free trips to the GP. You get a pony, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.800 You get a pony for your pony. This brief wouldn't 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.960 give ponies an utter nightmare. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.640 I'm simply making the point. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.040 Everything, even stuff nobody asks for. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.520 Or agrees, would be a good thing for the system. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.600 Can you imagine the hole in the budget That is 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.560 why dental and mental aren't covered by Medicare because, good grief, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.520 the taxpayer would never be able to live it down. Also, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:42.080 why are you calling this the robin Hood scheme? His 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.560 whole bit was robbing the rich to feed the poor. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.880 And without the rich in this country, mate, where the 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.319 heck are we like. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:53.520 Them or hate them? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.760 And we know that you hate them, we need them desperately. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.480 Where would we be without the people who shoulder the 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.240 risk make big bucks in this country Despite all the 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.520 policies our government pushes, which means it's far more well, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.840 it would be better off if you manufactured elsewhere. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.320 We've basically got. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:20.240 No manufacturing left in Australia, despite exactly how hard we've 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.959 made it for business here. Those who do prosper here 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.720 listening to this guy would be like mate, Not that 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.960 they would ever vote Greens anyway, but I think everybody else. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.079 These crack pots do the Libs a favor. When they 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.199 hear this kind of thing. It makes headline news. The 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.280 average punter reads it and goes no way. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.320 Host and my photo didn't get this, Calib'll have another. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.680 Listen to Adam Bandt. He's promised that if they have 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.920 the bounce of power. The Greens will set Australia up 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:49.240 for generations to come. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:49.760 Have a listen. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.920 We are on the verge this year of one of 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:57.320 the most significant elections in a generation. We have the 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.359 chance at this election by putting more Green into Parliament, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.200 of keeping Peter Dunton out, but then also getting Labor 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.520 to act, we could make significant reforms that will set 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.120 this country up for generations. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.560 Sorry, did he say set this country up or stuff 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:17.000 this country? 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:17.320 Yeah? 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.800 No, he did say set this but he's quite ready. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.920 We'll set this country up for generations of damage and disaster. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.200 I was seriously and I find this argument so lazy 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.800 that you know that the Robin Hood iarday, we're going 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.600 to rob Peter to pay Paul will take money from 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.840 the rich to give it to the poor. I know 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.960 he's been talking about corporate tax and that's a slightly 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.840 different argument. But when it comes to income tax in 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:46.680 this country, the top ten percent of earners pay roughly 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.680 ninety percent of the total income tax in this country. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.679 I don't believe we don't have any of them left here. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:58.680 You can't argue that rich people aren't pulling their weight 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.480 pay ninety percent of the tax because you know, if 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.280 you're on fifty grand a year, what's the tax free thresholds? 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.920 Forty two grand or something, isn't it right? So most 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.120 of your most of your income is tax free essentially. Now, look, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.439 if we'd had the tax reform that we were promised 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.280 by labor, maybe things would look a little different. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.079 But we didn't get that. But that is the case. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.520 Ten percent pay ninety percent of the tax. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.400 So how could he possibly say, oh, the rich need 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.760 to pay more tax because they're not putting in their 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.880 fair share. They absolutely put in their fair share in 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.040 this country. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.720 Where they think he's going to get the mental and 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.600 dental into medicare without the rich picking up the ta. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.160 The other stuff I love from the Greens is some 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.239 of their rhetorical flourish. I mean, he warns that Australia 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:51.280 risks a US style shift to the right. So Merigi 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.400 is the doing of conservativesm It's sold there go slightly 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:56.400 conservatives a US. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.359 As if that's bad. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.000 Somehow has he seen what's just happened in a maritor 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.680 a trump one in a landslide and he's warning we 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.640 might see that too in our dreams. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.680 Seriously, hand give it up, mate, stay in Melbourne. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.640 Well, you know it's okay. The Greens can exist in Melbourne. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.400 I don't mind if they exist in Melbourne, because of course, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:15.920 you know, we can just keep them in Melbourne. The 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:16.959 rest of us will be fine. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.040 Now I'm going to ask you about g strings. I 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.040 don't know whether you wear one, Liz, you are regular 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.520 wear a string. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.400 That was the worst segue in the history of the Sorry. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.040 I want to ask you how you mean to go 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.440 from Adam ban to I mean, I don't want to say. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:37.120 Good. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.840 We didn't have to tie it in. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.080 Well on anyway, I didn't tie I was going to. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.520 Take the bullet for you, but you just wade in. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.120 I was like, I thought this was one you'd want 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.480 the woman to intro you. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.320 Go for it ed to you if you want to 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.800 know you struggling. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.200 We're all on the edge of our seat. Please carry on. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.760 We're on the edge of our street seat with a 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.960 beer above. Because we're all where g strings under. You 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.520 can't see you. Oh my god, one James's rocking white. Anyway, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.040 to get back on track g strings. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:14.240 The Blue Mountains Council has decided that you can't wear 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.680 them at their public pools. They put up these side 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.680 mountainols saying you know what swim where is and isn't acceptable, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.680 And basically they said, we don't want to see your 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.800 bear bum. You can still wear a bikini, that's fine 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.840 as long as it's got some coverage over your bum. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:31.880 But if you've got a little bit of string between 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.120 in the crack there and well you're walking around with 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.760 your butt cheeks out, thank you very much, that's not 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.200 acceptable in a public place. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.640 I can't see what the issue is with this, right. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.600 I mean, look, sure I might enjoy looking at it, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.680 but there's kids around, for heaven's sake, right have some 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.520 decorum in a public place. It is a family place, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.000 and the council owns the pool, so surely they have 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.200 the right to decide the dress code for the people 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.480 who go there. Much like you go to a nightclub 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.240 or a pub or whatever, and there's often a sign 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.240 on the front door that says no ripped shirt, you know, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.360 no uninclosed shoose, etc. That's the prerogative of the owner 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.880 of the venue. Surely, if the council says you can't 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.760 wear a g string here, that is fine. But no, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.920 the feminists say this is regression. It is the patriarchy 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:21.920 at work. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:22.040 Now. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.440 I don't quite get that argument, because surely the blokes 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.160 wouldn't mind someone rocking up in a G string to 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.320 have a perv. How is it the patriarchy at work. 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.560 But here we are in twenty twenty five. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.000 You are pressing. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.040 Women if you won't let them wear a G string 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.160 to the council pool. Jess King, she's a model, she says. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.280 Such a ban implies that the human body, specifically the 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.080 bum which we all have, is inherently inappropriate or sexualized, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.479 reinforcing shame rather than promoting acceptance. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.840 Now, acceptance of what public nudities? 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:57.840 Do? 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.720 Have laws about this? 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.480 And can someone explain to me the difference between public 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:09.200 nudity and just wearing absolutely nothing save for a tiny 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.200 triangle in the front. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.440 There. That's it. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.360 That is what we're talking about here. Have some decency, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:22.679 have some self respect. I find it utterly revolting. Just 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.639 have some class for crying out loud? Why is it 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.280 we have to be I always laugh at feminists like 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:34.080 this because they're all, like, I'm liberated. If the patriarchy love. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:39.639 The patriarchy is laughing their heads off at you. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.480 And here we are in this culture where they want. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.800 Young men, especially to respect women, have some respect for women. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.920 We know that we're up against the online porn culture, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.040 we know that we're up against only fans and entire 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.119 culture is pushing back on us. And as young boys, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.240 they can't even go to their local government pool out 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:05.439 these women walking around completely naked, basically everything flapping around 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.080 in the breeze. How are these young men supposed to 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.440 respect you? I don't and I'm a fellow woman. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.040 Well, they try to make this about women's rights, and 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.520 it's not about women's rights. It's about borderline nudity and 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.480 whether or not that's acceptable and the bigger issue here. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.440 But the other by the way, it's also about dress codes. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.359 I mean, if you go to a pub or a restaurant, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.719 they have dress codes. If you go to a council 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.879 run pool they have a dress code. You don't complain 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.719 about the pub or the restaurant. Why would you get 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.399 upset about the council pool. But the bigger issue for 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.439 our culture is when you talk about public decency. We 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.920 now live in a situation where nobody agrees anymore on morality, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.080 on what is good, what is right, and so everything 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.240 is up for grabs. So I'm not really surprised we're 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:52.680 having these arguments because we've got no shared morality anymore. Yeah, consequently, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.880 everything is an absolute war. But you know, the councilor 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.840 within their rights to make whatever decisions they want. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.760 That thank god long ones decency. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.280 And of course the media was getting in touch with 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.239 the person who'd made this, called the mayor of that 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.080 council as soon as this was posted online. Apparently the 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.840 local MP is taking on the mayor over this for 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.000 crying out loud. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.480 Mate. I don't know whether the local MP is a 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:22.200 male or a. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.520 Female, but if he's a male, take it from me, buddy, 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.680 that sounds you see. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.840 You may take our lives, you will never take our 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:31.840 g streams. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.120 Do me a favor. Well. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.600 The media is still full of stories regarding the devastating 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.280 fires in LA. We understand twenty four a dead the 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:49.399 latest death toll. Of course, countless thousands of buildings and 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:54.760 homes completely destroyed, completely wiped out. Over eighty eight thousand 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.880 people are under an evacuation order and with the weight 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.960 the rate winds are going rather eighty eight thousand more 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:09.840 stand to be evacuated from their suburbs of La it's 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:15.560 absolutely devastating. It's still completely out of control, and now 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.640 we're being told here in Australia by our insurance council 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:25.160 how this could affect our insurance costs going forward. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.520 The Insurance Council of Australia. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:31.240 Has pointed out, hey, we've got similar situation here in Australia. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.159 It gets dry here, it gets windy here. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.920 They point out that the affordability of coverage and disaster 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:42.160 prone areas is now getting out of control simply because 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.679 these insurance companies are saying, heck, how on earth are 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.040 we supposed to cover? 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.400 What they're saying is the. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:54.439 Effects of climate change. So there's these growing challenges faced 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:59.360 by the insurance market worldwide. Indeed, the US market looks 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.359 insurance market looks set to lose over twenty billion dollars 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.320 due to this fire alone. So we're looking at well, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:14.400 obviously not similar, but we're being warned here that our 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.280 insurance could go up by heaven knows how many percentage 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.560 points as we look at similar here in during our 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:22.560 fire c well, I think. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.560 They're predicting two percent insurance premium rise in Australia. Qbe 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.440 have more in disaster phone areas their clients. SUN Corp 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.879 Is still assessing. But in the cost of living crisis, 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.600 two percent on your insurance is still the last thing, 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.960 especially when it relates to fires on the other side 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.200 of the world. I think it rightly should reflect in 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.200