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Speaker 2: Well, it's a very misunderstood industry and very protective of it.

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Speaker 2: understand that it can be an intelligent decision to make

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Speaker 3: Charlie Ford is talking about sex work while milling about

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Speaker 3: It's the beginning of a huge week, the most important

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Speaker 3: along with every other major adult film star from around

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Speaker 3: In the next room, fellow Ossie over Hawthorne, one of

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Speaker 3: the country's most popular X rated cam girls, is putting

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Speaker 4: Uber the I don't Know It's.

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Speaker 5: The Collidium.

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Speaker 6: Comes up.

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Speaker 3: At thirty five years old, Charlie has made a name

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Speaker 3: a unique genre of adult entertainment that she describes as Australiana,

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Speaker 3: and it has catapulted her from the dusty streets of Brisbane, Queensland,

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Speaker 3: the biggest pawn agent in the business, Mark Spiegler. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't the life she planned.

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Speaker 2: I was a veterinarian. I was just graduating that school

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Speaker 2: I loved it. So I started and I started like

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Speaker 2: shooting for companies and realized that there aren't many companies

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Speaker 3: Amateur DIY platforms like OnlyFans hadn't yet disrupted the industry

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Speaker 3: when Charlie first started doing porn about six years ago. Instead,

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Speaker 3: production companies like Brasses, Bangbros. And Reality Kings hire performers

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Speaker 3: to be in their movies that are noticeably more slick

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Speaker 3: than the amateur content by creators like Bonnie Blue and

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Speaker 3: Lily Phillips on platforms like OnlyFans. Like most studio pros,

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Speaker 3: Charlie now also publishes content on DIY sites, but she

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Speaker 3: Battle lines have formed between the two camps.

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Speaker 2: I love producing and directing, and I love cinematic porn specifically,

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Speaker 2: Not that there's anything wrong with amateur content at all.

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Speaker 2: There's a market for both of them. It's just that

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Speaker 2: I personally love creating cinematic porn, so I decided to

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Speaker 3: At the end of this week, Charlie, along with every

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Speaker 3: where she's nominated in several categories Best double Penetration, sex Scene,

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Speaker 3: Best Orgy Scene, and Milk Performer of the Year. More importantly,

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Speaker 3: and events. Suddenly, Charlie gets a message from the uber

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Speaker 2: Friends, spectacles, testicles, well and.

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Speaker 3: Watch everyone, I got it. Charlie leads the group out

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Speaker 3: zooms down to the basement car park. The elevator quickly

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Speaker 3: They do some last minute preening.

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Speaker 3: So just have a listen. Charlie us her hot pink

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Speaker 2: Well, they've studied Only Fans and the average person makes

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Speaker 3: It might even be less than that. Only Fans made

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Speaker 3: Creators took home about five point eight of that thanks

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Speaker 2: I think everyone should, even if they make a lot

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Speaker 3: And like in the way that you do it with

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Speaker 3: I've just walked in and I'm surrounded by dildo's and

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Speaker 3: everyone's wearing PBC pants. There's antibacterial wives. Well, that's helpful.

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Speaker 3: It's the first day of the porn convention and streams

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Speaker 3: In some beautiful symbolism, the porn expo happens right next

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Speaker 3: like it's a catwalk is Lexi Cox, a blonde bombshell

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Speaker 3: I am a professional big boobs, haver and what size

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Speaker 5: Because I love them? Everybody loves Teddies.

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Speaker 3: Amid this pornographic flurry that's forming in the middle of

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Speaker 3: It's one twenty in the afternoon. Bonnie Blue is meant

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Speaker 3: memorabili assigned and to meet her. But she's still Mia,

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Speaker 3: the controversial porn star is at large. I was meant

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Speaker 3: after the world record attempt where she slept with about

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Speaker 3: to try and meet Bonnie Blue. For someone who presents

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Speaker 3: Bonnie's Instagram has gone dark and she is seemingly gone

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Speaker 3: to ground. While I wait, I roam the halls, perusing

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Speaker 9: I've been paid like two hundred bucks to send a

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Speaker 3: That's Lana a stripper from Toronto, Canada, who started making

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Speaker 3: Avalon saf Dressed in fishnet, lingerie and nipple pasties, she's

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Speaker 3: her boyfriend Ryan. They met in high school and have

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Speaker 3: telling me about the demands Lana receives for bespoke X

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Speaker 5: Take a fart porn, tell me about it.

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Speaker 10: No smell, nothing, just the video of audible farting. Just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you into it? Ryan?

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Speaker 5: No? No, no, no. Those are for my pay pigs.

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Speaker 3: Those are your pay pigs, adequately named. How much are

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Speaker 3: you making a month through your online work?

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Speaker 9: Well, I have some people that are subscribed to my

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Speaker 9: only fans, but then also pay me for private content.

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Speaker 10: Only fans by itself doesn't really pay that much because

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Speaker 10: they take up a massive amount of your income.

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Speaker 9: Like, for example, one of my subs sent me one

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Speaker 9: hundred dollars on OnlyFans and I only received eighty of

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Speaker 9: it Because only fans takes like a good twenty percent

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Speaker 9: of whatever income you have. So from from like OnlyFans

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Speaker 9: and dorming and stuff like that, I guess i'd make

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Speaker 9: like around two hundred a month.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred a month, Yeah, I'm still new. So how

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Speaker 3: much did you make from your farting video? Again? Around

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Speaker 3: two hundred and so only fans would have taken is

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Speaker 3: that forty dollars?

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Speaker 5: Well I did that. I sold that video privately.

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Speaker 3: Okay, people having sex online is nothing new. Being exhibitionists

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Speaker 12: A lot of it was meeting girls at bars, coming home,

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Speaker 3: How many people do you have watching you right now?

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Speaker 14: There's currently fourteen people watching me, but who knows they

438
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 14: might be more not logged in.

439
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: And they're from all around the world, everywhere.

440
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 14: It's started doing only fans when I was a dancer,

441
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 14: when it started to be a thing. I started that

442
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 14: in like twenty eighteen, and then I thought, then what

443
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 14: else is there? What else can I try? And camming

444
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 14: was something I got into early on by accident. I

445
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 14: used to post on Reddit just for fun, just for

446
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 14: fun and curiosity for freek.

447
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 3: What would you post on Reddit?

448
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 14: Nudes pictures of my body, pole dancing videos, pictures with

449
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 14: girls naked kissing.

450
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: And then so then you realized you could monetize it.

451
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 14: Well, it wasn't until someone messaged me and offered me

452
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 14: money for a video chat with them.

453
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Speaker 3: Do you remember how much money they offered in that

454
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: first chat?

455
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 14: Well, they told me it's set a prize and I

456
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 14: had no idea because I wasn't doing it yet, So

457
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 14: I charged them fifty dollars. They paid me in an

458
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 14: Amazon gift card before Amazon was in Australia, so I

459
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 14: bought a few random products from Amazon US and that

460
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 14: was the proceeds of my first time with sex work.

461
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Speaker 3: How many hours a day would you work doing cam I.

462
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Speaker 14: Would probably stream six hours four days a week. But

463
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 14: if they're a contest or something and goal I'm really

464
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 14: trying to achieve. It's as much as one hundred and

465
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 14: twenty hours a week.

466
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: Are you camming for six hours straight?

467
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 14: I take a little breaks, but like sometimes so.

468
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: Like over those six hours, what are you doing?

469
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: What am I doing? What am I not doing?

470
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 14: So when I'm doing like a camethon, if I'm trying

471
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 14: to do like eighteen hours straight, I do everything on cam.

472
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 14: I'm having a shower on cam, putting on my makeup.

473
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 14: It's not just like the sexy one on one things.

474
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 14: I might wash the dishes or vacuum the house. I

475
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 14: might do some yoga, exercise, whatever.

476
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: Chat where does the money part come from?

477
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 14: So they're tipping, they're tipping for for me to do

478
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 14: different things.

479
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: Who's got the biggest tip?

480
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: Today?

481
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 14: We did three hundred tokens for a belly button play.

482
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: Belly button play a little.

483
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 14: Vibrator inside my belly button for a while.

484
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: How does it feel belly button play?

485
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 5: You know what?

486
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 14: The belly button feels kind of like weird when you're using.

487
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: A vibrator on the inside of it. When you have

488
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: like a deep belly button, does it need to be

489
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: a vibrator specifically on the belly button.

490
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: Oh, I like use my fingers.

491
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 14: Put a little bit of spit in the belly.

492
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Button as well, and you can figure your belly bumpet.

493
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 5: You can figure a lot of things.

494
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: Can we put a call out to the guys watching

495
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: you stream right now? Who's got the biggest tip? Who's

496
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: got the biggest tip?

497
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: I wonder here?

498
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: It's say it in a sexy cam girl voice.

499
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 14: Okay, hi everyone, what's doing me online?

500
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: Right now?

501
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 14: I would love to see who has got the biggest

502
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 14: tip for me? Make me see how much you want

503
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 14: to see more.

504
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: Don't forget I've got.

505
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 14: My tip menu, so check that out. And if you

506
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 14: play your cards right, I might connect my lush so

507
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 14: you can use my interactive vibrator to make my pussy vibrate.

508
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: I have a saying that I will.

509
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 14: I'll make them have the most confused wank because they'll

510
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 14: be laughing while they're so horny.

511
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: And when you just did the call out, then I

512
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: liked the sexy purri porn star boys. Can you tell

513
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: me about how you developed that voice?

514
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 5: Well, when you're.

515
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 14: Talking dirty, it's not about exactly what you're saying it's

516
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 14: all in the deliver. So if you slow things down

517
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 14: and you get it real going like it's velvety.

518
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, think about like how.

519
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 14: You whisper sweet nothings into someone's ear. That's exactly what

520
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 14: I like to do.

521
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: I want to be right there with them. Can you

522
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: make anything sound sexy when you use that voice?

523
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 4: Oh?

524
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 5: For sure.

525
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 14: Take me out into the garden because we're gonna get failthy.

526
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 14: We've got some shoveling to do and a whole fence

527
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 14: to paint. You want to come help me paint my

528
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 14: front fence?

529
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 3: Can you say? I need to go get my Nissan

530
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: Patrol serviced, and then I need to go to the

531
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: supermarket to pick up milk. Yeah.

532
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 14: Look, it's going to be such a busy day for me.

533
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 5: There's so many things I need to do.

534
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 14: Firstly, I'm going to take my car go for a service,

535
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 14: you know what I mean, Take that to get fixed up,

536
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 14: get a bit of tune, and then you know what's next,

537
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 14: We've got to hit the supermarket. We've got so many

538
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 14: things we need to do today.

539
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: Nova is in a relationship with a guy named James,

540
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: who started out as her sugar daddy and in a

541
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: quirky twist, she has now become his sugar mummy thanks

542
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: to the success of her camming. It's a job that

543
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: has afforded her a comfortable life. She says she's thrilled

544
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: with them, and so is her grandma.

545
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 14: She has a book club that she's part of with

546
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 14: other people her age.

547
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: She's in their seventies.

548
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 14: And she asked me if it was anything like fifty

549
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 14: Shades of Gray because they just recently read that. And

550
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 14: I was shocked that she'd read that, and I had

551
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 14: to explain to her. I was like, no, it's nothing

552
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 14: like booty Shades of Gray. It's completely safe. Footy Shays

553
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 14: of Gray was not a good example of what sex

554
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 14: work is like.

555
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: So she wasn't shocked by your work, but you were

556
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: shocked that she had read fifty Shades of Mine.

557
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: I was so shocked that she had read that.

558
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 14: And when it came down to it, when when I

559
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 14: explained to her and got tried to get you know,

560
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 14: where she stands with it, she said, there's two things.

561
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 14: Are you safe and are you happy?

562
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: And I answered yes to both those and she was

563
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: so was she impressed by the financial control and freedom

564
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: that it allowed you.

565
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 14: I don't think she really realized until I started buying

566
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 14: her really cool Christmas presents. I sent my grandparents on

567
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 14: a weekend away at a winery with you know spas.

568
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: Do you know all that?

569
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 14: And then she kind of realized that I'm doing Okay,

570
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 14: let me move the camera over. I have another James interviewing.

571
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: Me right now.

572
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm now in shot of your of your cam experience

573
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: of my cam. That's you, and I've just ended up

574
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: on someone's cam live stream? How much did they tip me?

575
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: Out of nowhere? A man who looks like he could

576
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: be one of the bros on that TV show Entourage

577
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: walks up to me and immediately gets down to business.

578
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: He can see me holding microphones and recording equipment, and

579
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: somehow he already knows my name and what I'm here for. Hey, mate,

580
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: He's part of the team for Angela White, Australian adult

581
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: film actress who has become one of the biggest porn

582
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: stars on the planet. With over one hundred and thirty

583
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: award wins. Angela is the most decorated female performer in

584
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: adult entertainment history. In twenty twenty four, she ranked as

585
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: the single most searched porn star worldwide. She's set to

586
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: appear on the same panel discussion as Bonnie tonight. This

587
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: guy from Angela's team has heard I'm following a few

588
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: porn stars at the convention for this podcast, and he

589
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: almost seems annoyed. I haven't requested time with Angela, but

590
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: before landing in the US, I did try reaching out

591
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: to her to organize an interview. I was hoping for

592
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: a chat with Angela and Bonnie together the old school

593
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: studio performer alongside the DIY upstart. Are you going to

594
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: be around? Did you want covered for BERK.

595
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 15: I know that you've reached out to people that you

596
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 15: hadn't hit us up, and I was like, maybe, yag.

597
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: What I'd love is I'd love to document her and

598
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: Bonnie on the panel tonight, and I also thought what

599
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: would be called would be like a chat with her

600
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: and Bonnie at the same time. After the panel, He

601
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: starts shaking his head before I can finish the question.

602
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 16: Well, they're very different people.

603
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 12: You know.

604
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 15: It is not a porn starts the creator, whereas you're

605
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 15: talking about the loose.

606
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: Of board winning porn star ever. But that's what I

607
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: find interesting, That's what I want to tap into about

608
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: just about the difference between like the classic porn stars

609
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: and like the DIY creators. I want to have like

610
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: an interesting discussion about the differences and the nuances between

611
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: the two. But there's a problem with that. And the

612
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: problem is that when you're in an Angelou's position, because

613
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you know just how big a

614
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: deal she is, but there's things like this hierarchy. So really,

615
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: He then realizes he's talking directly into the microphones I'm

616
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: holding and immediately shuts down the conversation.

617
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Speaker 15: Everything is my okay, cucutys.

618
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: Sorry, is this the theater?

619
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 9: No?

620
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: No, where's the theater? The theater is You can just

621
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: go literally around this corner.

622
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: We'll see you, say remox obvious friend.

623
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Speaker 3: Thanks mate, Just I'm pacing through the casino, trying to

624
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: find the theater for tonight's panel discussion, the one with

625
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: Angela White and Bonnie Blue, who I assume will be

626
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: a no show. She missed her meet and greet with fans,

627
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: and her publicist, Emma has stopped replying to my calls

628
00:34:49,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: and text messages. Mana thank you out of nowhere. As

629
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 3: I pushed through the crowd, I hear a familiar voice

630
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: and see a familiar blonde bob.

631
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Speaker 5: Where do I get to the fil Oh? My god, Hi,

632
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: fancy seeing you here.

633
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: It's Emma Gilman, the publicist for Bonnie Blue, and her

634
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: once bedridden porn star boss is by her side. Bonnie, Hi,

635
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: Bonnie James Wick. Do you want to taking one of

636
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: the microphones off the podcast?

637
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 9: Go?

638
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: You are?

639
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: You're a hard lady to locate.

640
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 7: Yes, I come back.

641
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 3: How are you feeling?

642
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 7: I have I've just been full of flu, so yeah,

643
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 7: it's not been super exciting.

644
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: And you meant to do the fan appearance this morning?

645
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: Right?

646
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? How did that go?

647
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: I didn't do it?

648
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: You didn't do it.

649
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 7: I haven't been well all week. I've definitely still got

650
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: like a bit of a car for my voice. Isn't

651
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 7: like completely back to normal, but no, I'm fine.

652
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. And what's going to be talked about on the

653
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: panel tonight.

654
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 7: It's about like learning to dominate the market.

655
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about dominating the market

656
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 3: because you've been on a bit of a meteoroic rise

657
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: and you've kind of become like the Mick Jagger of

658
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Di White Pawn. Right, Yeah, I mean I was with

659
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: your entourage and your sister Summer on the private jet

660
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: that you charted yesterday.

661
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 7: I did you enjoy it?

662
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: I did?

663
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: You didn't enjoy it? But I feel like that's such

664
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: a rock star move, and it's such a rock star

665
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: life that you're living these days, Yeah, booking private jets

666
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: that you don't end up catching. Exactly as I chat

667
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: to Bonnie, it takes a moment for my eyes to

668
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: zoom out and capture the whole scene. She's being tailed

669
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: by a TV documentary crew from Channel four in the UK.

670
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: The cameraman begins filming the interaction, and a producer delicately

671
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: hovers a microphone. Bonnie's sister Summer and her ex husband

672
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 3: slash manager Ollie stand back holding her bags, alongside Bonnie's

673
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: videographer Joshua Spooner. Emma lurks on the sidelines. She almost

674
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: seems miffed that I ran into them by latch on

675
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: to Bonnie and we stroll into the theater. I ask

676
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: if she knows the other people she'll be appearing on

677
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: stage with.

678
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 7: I'm not really close with other content creatus as such,

679
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: so I don't know other content creators.

680
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: That's interesting to me. Why don't I imagine sort of

681
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: in this industry, like you know, some of them probably

682
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: reach out to you wanting to collaborate. Is that a

683
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: choice not to sort of form relationships or connections with

684
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: other creators?

685
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: A bit both, Like a lot of them are intimidated

686
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 7: by me. I'm making their content no longer relevant because

687
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: before doing a typical boy girl content would sell. I

688
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 7: now beat world records and I sleep with random people

689
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 7: to make relevant content, and it's sort of pushing theirs

690
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 7: out the way, so they're threatened by me. And also

691
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 7: it's treated like high school a lot of the time,

692
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: and I'm too big to entertain gossip and going oh

693
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 7: my god, you know what she said or do you

694
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 7: know what she's where? I like, I'm really not bothered.

695
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 7: I'll always support creators that are nice, and unfortunately the

696
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 7: industry isn't always filled with that.

697
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Bonnie's words seem tinged with insecurity, as if she's defending

698
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: herself by trash talking others. I'm told by some old

699
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: school players in the porn system that they have a

700
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 3: gripe with new independent creators like Bonnie, because it seems

701
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: she doesn't necessarily see herself as part of the larger industry,

702
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: and she doesn't feel a responsibility to maintain expectations or

703
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: unspoken rules. Creators like Bonnie also don't seem to think

704
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: there's anything they can learn from the performers who came

705
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: before her in the casino theater. I wait with Bonnie

706
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: in a dark corner and ask where she thinks this

707
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: resistance is coming from.

708
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people here will look down

709
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: on me for being successful on only funds because they

710
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: don't classize pawn, or they think they're bigger than me

711
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 7: just because they got paid one thousand pounds for a shoot.

712
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 7: I own over one thousand pounds an hour, so it's

713
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 7: sort of they need to relo a prelookout. I'm the

714
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 7: one with the most views. I'm the one that goes

715
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 7: Rivan all the time.

716
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: Bonnie has waved up to the stage to get in place.

717
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: Sam Wilkinson, the Channel four cameraman, circles the room to

718
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: get a good view. He has been following Bonnie since

719
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: the world record banged last week. As whispers get louder

720
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: in the industry about the stunt allegedly not being real

721
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: and questions being asked about when the tapes will be released.

722
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: Sam says he witnessed and filmed the event firsthand.

723
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: She took on We took a thousand men in a

724
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: strange house in London. We were in the room when

725
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: when the challenge was being performed, and did it shot me?

726
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I guess it kind of did it at moments when

727
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: you see a whole queue of men queuing up outside

728
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: the door with their hands and their pants trying to

729
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: get hard or maintain being hard, that that was probably

730
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: the oddest thing.

731
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just another normal day at.

732
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: The office really, apart from seeing loads of guys with

733
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: marks on as well, so it was an odd image.

734
00:39:52,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: Well, okay, the panels about to start. Angela White, with

735
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 3: her dead straight, raven hair and conservative black ensemble, enters

736
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: the small theater and takes a seat center stage, right

737
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: next to Bonnie, the naughty blonde Pixie. The two ladies

738
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: couldn't be more different. It almost feels like we should

739
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: be picking a side to root for. I'm told by

740
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: an executive in the industry who wants to remain anonymous,

741
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: that this look of Angela's is intentional to challenge the

742
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: stereotype of a porn star. They also tell me Angela

743
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: will probably not say much on the panel tonight as

744
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: she sits with the lesser known DIY creators, and that

745
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: her silence will speak volumes.

746
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 17: If you haven't heard the name Bonnie Blue, you probably

747
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 17: haven't been online lately. Her record breaking sex parent bonds

748
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 17: have shaken up preconceived notions of sexual morality and pushed

749
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 17: the boundaries of human sexual capability. As one of the

750
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 17: most respected and recognized things in the adult entertainment industry,

751
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 17: Angeloyd's career is a testament to both hard work and integrity.

752
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: So excited to be chatting with Yon today. I sit

753
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: through the panel and listened to polite answers to polite questions. No, Bonnie,

754
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: Angela and the other ladies don't talk smack to each

755
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 3: other's faces. After all, this is PAWN, not the WWE.

756
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: But there is a distinct lack of acknowledgment. Ollie was

757
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: watching from the audience. He thinks Bonnie is unhappy with

758
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: her appearance on stage.

759
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 8: I think think she did really, really well. I think

760
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 8: she has really high standards.

761
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 18: I think she just wished that she would have said

762
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 18: something that I don't know, like embellished a bit more

763
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 18: on some of her points.

764
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 8: She always is really well, but she she always comes

765
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 8: out not that happy with something.

766
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: How is she feeling going into this?

767
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 18: She was nervous in general, but she's also quietly confident

768
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 18: because she within a year has become the top three

769
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 18: biggest creatitis only fans and John. Most the people in

770
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 18: here that think that they own the place, they they're

771
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 18: not a patch on Bonnie.

772
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: After the panel, Bonnie decides to take an impromptu stroll

773
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: around the convention, followed by her entourage and TV documentary crew.

774
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: She's accosted by an old man. Her videographer Josh describes

775
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: the bloke in precise detail, so give you a description

776
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: of what he's like for the listeners.

777
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 16: He's around one hundred and twenty years old and hardly walking,

778
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 16: but he's a big fan of a lot of young girls.

779
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: Then another guy approaches, this time he's younger, in his thirties,

780
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: and he's armed with trading cards featuring pictures of Bonnie's face.

781
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: He made them on his computer and had them professionally printed.

782
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 16: How all he's one's for you man, I mean I

783
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 16: do best like they're like some people like Pokemon, carlds

784
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 16: and stuff like oh thank you.

785
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: His name is Tino Capo Bianco. He hands Bonnie a

786
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: pen and gets her to scribble her signature on the cards.

787
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 7: Why do you want me to.

788
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: Sign just anywhere on the card?

789
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, if you don't mind signing off whatever, You're comfortable.

790
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: If I have a bunch of them.

791
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: Can you tell me about your fandom of Bunny No.

792
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 16: I just think she's she's really taking the game strong.

793
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 16: She's she's huge on OnlyFans and know the next big thing.

794
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: The next big thing. I can't help but feel like

795
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: Bonnie is biting her tongue at this statement. In her mind,

796
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: She's not the next big thing, She's already the big thing.

797
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do with these these Bunny Pokemon cards?

798
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 16: So I keep a lot of them and I'll trade

799
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 16: some with other people. I like baseball cards as a kid.

800
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 16: Now I'm a three fire role now like cards of

801
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 16: beautiful man.

802
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: That's all.

803
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 5: And I made them of her.

804
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: It's just something cool.

805
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 16: The card market got big during COVID, so I think

806
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 16: just cards are cool.

807
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: What other points does do you make? Trading cards off?

808
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: So far?

809
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 16: I did a balladingger Keey Gunner and Lily Phillips.

810
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: How much did they sell? For I'm gonna haul them

811
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: for up. So I think she's just gonna get bigger.

812
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: It's like bickhoy. As Bonnie continues to be swarmed by fans,

813
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: her little sister, Summer, dressed in a gray Zara hoodie,

814
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: peels a mandarin and stares at an arcade claw machine

815
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: filled with sex toys. A skinny young boy with a

816
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: broccoli haircut and Justin Bieber Swagger bounds up to Bonnie

817
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: and starts propositioning her to film content with him. His

818
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: online name is Ze light Skin and at twenty four,

819
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Local has only recently started filming DIY content.

820
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 5: Now, I like just started kind of blowing up.

821
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: You're blowing up? What kind of content?

822
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 19: Boy?

823
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: Like boy girl boy boy.

824
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: Boy on boy. It's a lot like I do a

825
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: lot of it. Yeah, And what kind of content would

826
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: you want to do? Like one of Bonnie's gang bangs

827
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: that she's.

828
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 6: Done, Yeah, that would be called yeah a boy boy

829
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: girl or her that will go crazy, Just something like

830
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 6: that will go viral that.

831
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: She will late.

832
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: Nearby, another famous face appears in the crowd. We think

833
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: we've seen young Gravy from across the road. The American rapper, Hey,

834
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Young Gravy. Yeah, my name is James were I'm a

835
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: journalist from Australia from news dot com Todau. Are you

836
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: getting mobbed while you're here?

837
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 15: Yeah?

838
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: I forgot how hoodie I was leading for my flight.

839
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: I forgot to hordy.

840
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: But it's okay.

841
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: I usually can wear a hood.

842
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: And all, and it makes a little bit easier to

843
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: walk around. What do you like seeing while you're here?

844
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 20: The horny as do is Brushia. It's fucking funny and

845
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 20: interesting and I like to see just how freaky people get.

846
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 20: I just like played a video game with like a vibrator.

847
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 20: It was I don't know, man, people are wild. It's

848
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 20: a very interesting world.

849
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: What kind of people do you see here? Describing?

850
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: For me?

851
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: They're not like like I play.

852
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 20: People would assume that the people that are here might

853
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 20: be like, you know, basement dwellers that like Drenklin new

854
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 20: and eat Cheetos, But they're not. Like there's a lot

855
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 20: of like just like wholesome motherfuckers here. They probably get

856
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 20: pussy themselves, but they're they're just here, you know, they're

857
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 20: like supporting will.

858
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Young Gravy spills his observations about horny dudes and cheetos.

859
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: Bonnie has been cornered by another fan, this time a

860
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 3: young woman.

861
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 19: I was expressing my love for her, my love for

862
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 19: her work. She is everywhere right now and she blew

863
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 19: up so quickly too. It's so cool to see and

864
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 19: just the authenticity of dealing with you love. Because everybody

865
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 19: wants to be a gangbang girl. You know, everybody loves it,

866
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 19: believe it or not. If any girl had the chance

867
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 19: to do a thousand man gangbang, they do it one

868
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 19: time in their life.

869
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: I can't help but wonder is this the effect of

870
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: Bonnie and her fellow cohort of sexfluences.

871
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 19: My name is Mattie Collins and I am a Bonnie

872
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 19: Blue fan.

873
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: At twenty six. Maddie's also navigating the world of porn.

874
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: She's inside it every day and she hears what people

875
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: are saying.

876
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 19: When you see somebody just come out of no pun intending,

877
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 19: come out of the blue and really kill it like that,

878
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 19: I think that there's a little bit of like, ah,

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Speaker 19: I wish I could do that. That it kind of

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Speaker 19: rubs people a little bit of an in a jealous way.

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Speaker 19: And sure some people might want not want to put

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Speaker 19: in the work as much as Bonnie does, because she

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Speaker 19: does put in the work. But I think anybody wishes

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Speaker 19: that they could have done it themselves before doing it

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Speaker 19: for a studio, And I think that's more of what

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Speaker 19: the studio side of things. They're like, Oh, these OnlyFans girls,

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Speaker 19: and blah blah blah, and.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't need to be like that.

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Speaker 3: But only fans doesn't just come with fans, It also

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Speaker 3: comes with enemies. Later that night, in a bar filled

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Speaker 3: with porn stars wearing unbuttoned shirts and bodycon dresses, there's

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Speaker 3: only one topic of conversation Bonnie. One industry player talks anonymously.

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Speaker 3: The true story about this business is the faster you

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Speaker 3: go up, the faster you go down, and then it

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Speaker 3: just bottoms out. Shuting next time on sex lies and streaming.

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Speaker 3: Beneath the glitz and glamour of Vegas, whispers are growing

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Speaker 3: loud about who really belongs here. As Bonnie's dreams of

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Speaker 3: being a bona fide porn star begin to crumble, she

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Speaker 3: vanishes again, with her team calling an emergency meeting and

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Speaker 3: amid a terrifying security breach with a stalker.

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Speaker 7: It was actually quite heartbreaking because you could hear on

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Speaker 7: the other end of the line that he was coming

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Speaker 7: to the realization that everything that he thought to be

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Speaker 7: true was a lie.

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Speaker 3: I sit down with porn icon Angela White, fresh from

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Speaker 3: her awkward panel appearance with Bonnie, having seen the tension

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Speaker 3: between the two performers. Is there something I'm not being told?

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Speaker 3: I head to her private villa to get answers. That's

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Speaker 3: next time on sex Lies and Streaming. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: is Nina Young. Sound design and editing by Tiffany Dimmak.

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