1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed the Week Ahead. I'm Sean Aylmer, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: and as always I'm joined by economist Stephen Corculis. You'll 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: find herem at the Cook dot com, t h e 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: k o UK dot com and on X using the 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: handle the Kirk. Stephen, Good morning. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Been, good morning, Sean. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about labor force figures from last week 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: had something for everyone, and we had kind of job losses, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: but we still had an unemployment rate of four point 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: one percent. What's going on? 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Oh, The monthly seasonally adjusted labor force numbers are incredibly volatile. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: We've known that for many years now, and we saw 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: the classic case in the last two months where that 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: minus two and a half thousand for the month of 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: May followed a plus eighty eight thousand. So as the 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Bureau of Statistics and our friends at the Reserve Bank 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: keep telling us, use the trend data, don't rely on 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: the one monthly number which is all over the place. 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: And that's showing that the rate of employment growth is 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: still solid, not strong. That there's been a trend slowing 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: in the rate of THEMP growth. And I think that's 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: part of the story that the Reserve back will take 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: out of these numbers, and as you touched on, an 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: unemployment rate of four point one percent is still remarkably 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: low that we've got basically the last year and a 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: half where the unemployment rate's been four four point one percent, 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: and despite the weakness in things like job ads and 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: job vacancies that we've seen for the past year, the 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: unemployment rates remaining low. And I think we know the 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: answer to that too, because people have worked out well 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: why is it? So it's because of a lot of 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: public sector and non market related employment that the government's 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: tried to hire people in age care facilities, healthcare, education 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: and the like. And even though the private sector's week 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: employments holding up and unemployments remaining relatively low. 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So we come to this week and we've kind 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of got two parts of the economy that we're really 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: focused on at the moment. The jobs mark, which we've 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: just been talking about, inflation, which have been obsessed with 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: now for a few years. We've got information on both 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: those data points this week. Yeah. 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Inflation, it's the monthly inflation number and the good the 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: good news about this one, and we know that the 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: monthly number does not incorporate the same breadth of prices 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: that the quarterly number does, but being the May month 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: the middle month of each quarter, it does incorporate a 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: whole lot more than just the April and all the 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: germ numbers, So this one actually has a bit more 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: potency to it. And the market's currently looking for an 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 2: annual increase of about two point five percent, where it's 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: been for the past six months, So hooray the RBA 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: and the market will be pleased with that. But the 53 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: trimmed means the one that we're going to be looking 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: at as well, because that's the one that is more 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: important for the Reserve Bank and its monetary policy deliberations. 56 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: Probably a touch higher than the headline figure because there's 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: still some lagged effects of the electricity subsidies and these 58 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: sorts of things which pushed headline inflation lower. So we're 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: looking for about a two point seven percent on inflation, 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: confirming that, you know, the inflation problem is one of 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: last year, in the year before, and now we've got 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: inflation back under control. Now. The other big part of 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: the economic puzzle this week will be the job vacancy series, 64 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: and as we've just discussed on the labor market, numbers 65 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: really important part of the RBA deliberations and the economy 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: more broadly. Job vacancies have been trending down for the 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: last couple of years, largely driven by the weakness in 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: private sector demand for labor, as the private sector has 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: been weak under the weight I suppose of previous interest 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: rate tightening cycles. So we're looking for hopefully a relatively 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: resilient job vacancy's number. The risk is that we get 72 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: a minus two or three percent for the quarter, because 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: they're quarterly numbers, of these job vacancy numbers, and that 74 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: will probably signal again that the labor markets not quite 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: as tight as the Reserve Bank would have us believe. 76 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: And it keeps the door wide open for eighth of July. 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: And it's a straight cut which is currently pretty much, 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: as I look at by screens, pretty much priced in 79 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: for a twenty five point move. 80 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so the economic mixed master comes into all this. 81 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Seven you put all that together, we are going to 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: get rate cuts later in the year, be the next 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: month or the month after. 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: That's a bit of the debate right now that yes, 85 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: and gosh, we can't ignore what's happening globally and we 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: won't even talk about that because it's such a moving 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: feast and such an absolute well changing area, both geopolitics 88 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: and Trump tariffs, which has sort of got a little 89 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: bit by the wayside, and the US budget deficit which 90 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: again is a massive issue impacting bond markets and the like. 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: So all these things that the RBA will put into 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: the mix, and yet the futures market's still pricing in 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: rate cuts, but just the timing is always uncertain. 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Stephen, enjoy the week. 95 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: Thank you. 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: That was economist Stephen Coucoulis bit a nan as the Kirk. 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: You can find him at the Cook dot com, t 98 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: a g k o uk dot com and follow him 99 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: on X using the handle the Kirk. I'm Seane on 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: and this is here in Greed The week Ahead