WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 15 April 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.519 On scoring leaves Australia. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Wider Panalty Show. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.640 Good evening and welcome to the REATA Patty Show. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.200 Patrick Carlin will be here to discuss the day's top headlines. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.480 The Great Douglas Murray. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.360 Will be with me shortly and he's always in top form. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:21.200 We don't want to miss that. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.119 Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, and 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.480 later in the hour, Colleen Harken on the twisted priorities 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:30.600 of the Australian school. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.280 Curriculum and left is losing. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.199 It is full of sin and silliness and lies like. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.599 This sinan does not heed our country. That should go 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:41.320 without saying. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.720 But first let's start with this car crash interview on 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.320 the ABC. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:46.760 Here is till and Member for. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.840 Kyong Monique Ryan floundering badly after being asked a rather 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.160 simple question. First she railed against the right wing media 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.440 and Australia having sources in the Liberal Party, God forbid, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.600 and then she failed to answer a straightforward question about 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.920 transparency and integrity. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.840 Much of what is put into the press, and the 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.119 right wing press in particular, has been fed to it. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.920 But my political opponents. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.280 Well, OK, we're talking about paying we're actually paying for content. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:19.360 Do you have a problem with that? 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.280 Look, I think we're. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.360 Paying to generate the content that we're putting in front 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.800 of the voters. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.240 I'm not sure there's a big issue there. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.959 But should it be clear to voters people who are 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.319 looking at this content that it's paid for by the politician? 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.080 I don't really have an opinion on it, really. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.240 Really, really, monique. This isn't hard. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.080 It's not a got your question, It's not a nuanced 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.440 store something to ponder unless you're a Till, a hard 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.920 left till who pretended to be a conservative alternative. The 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.280 train Wreek interview continued. David Spears was trying not to 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.320 laugh out loud here. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:04.600 I think, Well, you don't think voters deserve to know 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.600 that if someone they're watching is saying great things about 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.400 a politician, whether they're being paid by that politician. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.239 I have to give it some thought. It's not something 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.640 I've given great thought to myself. Obviously, I haven't engaged 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:16.760 in anything like that muscle. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.040 You'd have to give that some thought. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:25.000 Well, Uh, I would think that it would be clear. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:25.680 I don't know. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:31.520 I think. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:33.800 I'd have to give it some thought. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.280 Done, Yes, let's think about that. Just incredible stuff from 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.600 doctor Minigue. There, David Spears tried again with this very 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.880 simple question. All she had to do was disavow something 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.760 that is clearly dodgy and dishonest. Remember, the tills are 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.239 meant to restore integrity. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.360 So you might be all right with politicians paying for 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.200 content that voters have no idea money is changing hands. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.480 Well, I think that's potentially happening, been happening for a 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.760 long time. If you look at the cartoons that Pauline 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.600 Hanson's been putting on the social media for years now, 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:15.040 which are very clearly politically biased cache, I'm not sure 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.880 that that is the case. Actually, I think it's an 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.760 interesting question. I think media diversity and the way that 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.959 our media works in this country is something which would 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.880 certainly merit greater examination and something that we could talk about. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.600 Okay, I'll move on. Your husband, of course, famously apologized 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:36.000 for being caught on camera removing signs from your liberal 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.840 opponent Amelia Hamer. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.840 One sign. It was one sign, just one sign, nothing 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:42.240 to see. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:42.440 There. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.960 She goes on some incoherent ran there about media diversity 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.240 in Pauline Hansen's cartoon series to try to deflect to 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.640 not answer a simple question about integrity and transparency. As 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.840 for that satirical cartoon series. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.280 Please explain. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.280 I think they now there, Monique Character. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:12.120 Sure, so why are not Time Minister yet? Monique, You've 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.080 been in the public service for like two days? 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:15.400 It should be me. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.679 I should be in India. Imagine me on my head 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.080 and where's my own point. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.440 Of the Kurish coronation. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.679 Joining me now for more on This is News Corps 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.520 senior writer Patrick Carline. Patrick, that was a mess. That 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.800 was not a good moment for Monique Ryan. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.680 That was painful to watch, wasn't I I mean, how 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.359 many times can you dance around a very simple question 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.560 like that. She's there because supposedly transparency and integrity. He's 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.960 a gross example of something that was intransparent and wasn't 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.520 above board. Even the Greens have called out. Even the 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.600 Greens have called it out, as have the mainstream parties. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.920 This was not a hard question and she really got 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.960 called out, didn't she. I mean, she just didn't know 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.400 what to say. It was painful to watch. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.440 I mean, they're supposed to be independents. They keep telling 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:11.080 us this is not this group who is a political party. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.359 We know, Simon Holmes, the court devotes all sorts of 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.080 funding to them, but surely you can say, yes, she 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.400 may be a colleague, but I think she made a 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.840 mistake here, and it's not a decision I would make. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.840 Sticking with the election campaign, economists have warned that the 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.919 campaign has turned into a dangerous spending competition between the 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.320 major parties, with both Labor and the Coalition bribing voters 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.760 with schemes worth billions of dollars. As they're otherwise lackluster 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:43.040 campaigns failed to gain traction, and patrick are growing fears 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:48.680 that competing election promises on housing in particular, are tinkering 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.680 while our creaking system lurches towards collapse. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.080 That's a direct quote. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.799 We can ill afford this sort of spendathon, can we 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:02.120 We've got inflationary pressures to consider and record debt. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.880 That's right. Somebody worked out that if you added together 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.560 the cost of these proposals by Labor and the Coalition, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 you're looking at twenty four billion dollars between them for 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.599 something that economists say is not going to work. These 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.640 measures are not going to make it easier for first 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.640 home buyers. It's just going to push up the price 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.520 of houses and these are bribes. Basically, we're looking at 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.359 a campaign at the moment that is very much aimed 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.280 at anyone under the age of thirty. You've got young 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.800 voters for the first time, and it has become this 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.039 spenderthon what are the best bribes we can bring for 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.200 young people to get them to vote for us. And 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.200 we're not being at all well served. I mean, the 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.520 big issues facing Australia are not being discussed, much less debated. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.640 What's in this campaign for say, over fifty fives. You 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:54.839 look at the focus does seem to be overwhelmingly on 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.000 those younger voters. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.480 Absolutely, and these aren't good policies. These aren't actually going 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.039 to fix the word. These are just bribes to actually 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.320 get young voters to vote for them. And look the 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.680 Teals are doing it. The Greens are going to make 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.840 everything free. From the sound of it, everything's free if 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.960 you're under the age of thirty. And we're not being 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.160 well served, and they're certainly very little for anyone who's older, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.200 who has paid their way, who has paid their taxes. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.760 They have been sort of forgotten in this whole campaign 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:21.160 so far. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.760 Now let's switch to the Victorian Liberals. Who are very 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:30.960 slow learners. Indeed, the Herald signs reporting that multiple candidates 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.920 will be challenging more A Deemings number one position on 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.239 the Western Metropolitan Upper House ticket. When pre selection begins. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.760 It's going to be happening shortly after the federal election. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.080 There is a plot by Liberal operatives to end more 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:50.000 A Deming's political career with the Liberal Party. Patrick, she's 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.360 one of the most popular, one of the most effective 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.600 and recognizable Liberals in this state. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.080 There aren't too many of them. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.120 Why are they so desperate to unsee Look. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.800 The Lids haven't had any sniff of power since twenty 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.920 fourteen at the main members of Victorian were subjected to 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.440 the worst government in my lifetime. Victorians just want to 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:17.200 boot out just Into Allen ahead of letters. We get 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.960 elected ahead of just Into Ellen tomorrow. But the Liberals 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.800 at the same time are too busy fighting themselves. They 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.520 haven't actually been a credible alternative for more than a decade, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.240 and now this more redeeming business. It should have been 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.840 resolved in a day, maybe two days, but instead we 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.920 had a defamation case. We saw the opposition leader John 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.360 Pisudo knocked out as a consequence of that they're too 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.960 busy fighting themselves and we are actually being poorly served 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.680 by an opposition that is too busy fighting with itself. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.320 And I have said all along, one of the reasons 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.040 we've had such a poor government in this state is 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.480 that we've got such a poor opposition. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.120 They haven't held them to account. And here we are. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.240 Now, finally, Patrick, we're talking about the Greens. Let's meet 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.320 one of theirs. Meet Avery Howard, the Greens candidate for Fowler. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.080 Goes by. They then pronouns, of course, of course he does. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.280 A self described queer, anti poverty advocate and retail worker, 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:18.200 Avery has signed up to an Australian Palestinian Advocacy Network 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.000 initiative and vow to support a complete and permanent cease 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:26.120 firing Gaza and all sorts of other anti Israeli policies, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.640 and to Israel's blockade on Gaza, illegal occupation and apartheid, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:35.920 targeted sanctions and arms in bargo against at Israel many 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.760 other things. I thought this was parody when I saw that. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:45.000 I mean the level of ignorance to be advocating for 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:49.760 a regime that would literally kill you. You would not 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.280 go into Gaza looking like that. With her mass in charge. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.160 You wouldn't even go into the West Bank looking like that. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.440 That's off the chart. It's an affront to truth and 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.560 to decent see. It's totally wrong, and it's getting more 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:03.360 and more offensive. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.640 Absolutely, Patrick Carlin, thank you for your time tonight. Joining 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.920 me now is best selling author Douglas Murray's latest book 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.800 on Democracies and Death Colts, Israel and the Future of 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.280 Civilization has just hit. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:17.280 The shelves and guests. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.959 Who was promoting this latest work none other than the 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.080 leader of the free world, President Donald Trump, wrote, my 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.359 friend Douglas Murray just released a new book on Democracies 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.360 and Death Colts, and it is quickly becoming a best seller. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.520 Based on his first hand reporting, Douglas documents the barbarity 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.240 of her master's brutal attack on Israel on October seven 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.560 and Israel's heroic response. The book serves as a strong 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.800 reminder of why we must always stand up for America 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.720 and our great friend and ally Israel. A powerful read 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.959 and a highly respected author, Get your copy today. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.559 Good Lord Douglas, that is some endorsement. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.720 Did you have any ink the President was going to 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.160 do that? 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.760 I suppose I have to be careful what I say. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:08.920 I gave him a copy last week. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.640 Well, clearly he's read the book and loved it. We 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.760 know he doesn't sleep much, so he's read that very quickly. Douglas, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.440 you're making news again, not just writing and commenting on 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.520 the headlines, but in the thick of it. Thanks to 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.760 a rather robust discussion you had on Joe Rogan's podcast. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.520 It's been the talk of X and elsewhere for days. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.600 There was a clash between yourself and Dave Smith, and 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.439 you even took on the man who has the biggest audience, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.760 the biggest podcast audience in the world, Joe Rogan on 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:38.480 his own show. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.960 I just feel who you get it out straight away. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.719 I feel you've opened the door to quite a lot 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.880 of people who've now got a big platform, who have 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.679 been throwing out counterhistorical stuff of a very dangerous kind. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.480 Douglas, You've had plenty of people praising your performance and 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.040 agreeing with you, but there has also been criticism from 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.480 those who say you are trying to silence debate and 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.280 appealing to authority or appealing to the expert class, they say, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.679 and the expert class hasn't exactly been reliable of late. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:12.320 Well. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.520 I conceded all of that in the discussion on Joe's podcast. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.040 I conceded that experts have got things wrong. Look at 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.840 the COVID and the lab league. And I also said, 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.439 I certainly am not shutting down debate. I'm involved in debate, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.800 so why would I be shutting it down. What I 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.760 do believe and what I think many people have completely 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.840 failed to absorb is the fact that there just because 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.640 you know, the expert class has let itself down in 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.000 places on occasion, does not mean that lack of expertise 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.280 is more desirable than expertise, And it does not mean 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.880 that we should just have other ways of knowing about 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.560 things that can be known about. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.400 The cat part who Joe Rogan brought in for that 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:07.960 debate seemed to think that, for instance. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:12.280 Not going to a place that you're talking about was 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:17.119 in some way a desirable thing. Whereas I as a journalist, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.360 you as a journalist, though that if we cover a 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.040 story in a country, For instance, when you were covering 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.040 the American election in twenty twenty, as I was. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.920 You were in America, why were you in America? Because 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.520 you were covering the American elections? 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.880 And if you'd have been just sitting in Australia covering 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.880 the American elections. That wouldn't have had the validity that 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.120 it does if you are in the country you are 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:40.839 writing about. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:42.719 I think this is a. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.400 Deliberate misunderstanding by people. And let me very quickly explain 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:52.319 why Joe Rogan is a big MMA guy. I probably 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.079 know you probably know about as much about MMA. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:55.320 As I do. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.400 You might surprise me, Rita. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:01.840 But if either of us went on his podcast and 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.920 decided to spend the three hours talking. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.480 About MMA, we would be found out. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.840 Pretty fast as not knowing what we were talking about. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.000 And at some point Joe would cott an end to 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.320 that and he would say, I'm sorry, you'd seem not 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.600 to know about this subject. Well, that's because it's a 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.000 subject he knows a lot about. My simple point is 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:28.400 that there is something very different happening if a host's 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:33.840 platform repeatedly cranks with the same opinion as each other 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.800 on very very important questions and do not allow on 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:44.920 contrary views or very rarely, for instance, to not have 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:49.160 somebody on who is supportive of Ukraine as opposed to 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.080 highly highly critical of Ukraine. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.560 Since twenty two seems to me to be a big 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.840 issue to. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:02.600 Say that, for instance, you spent the last eighteen month highlighting, promoting, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:07.720 giving a platform to anti Israel voices and just never 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.840 almost never or accidentally giving a platform to anyone who's 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.120 anti Hemaz. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.440 And pro as well seems to me to be a 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.200 major failing. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.760 And I just wanted to call it out because it's 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.000 something I see and I think a lot of other 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.640 people see it and are equally concerned about it. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.360 But as I say, on issues like. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.520 Mma fighting or anything else, people would notice there was 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:36.080 something strange going on if guests were turning up who 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:36.680 didn't know. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:37.760 What they were talking about. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:42.320 And I submit that when you get pseudo historians on talking, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:49.280 for instance, about Churchill and claiming that that Adolph Hitler 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.640 wasn't openly anti Semitic in the nineteen thirties, but that 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.840 Winston Churchill was the cause of the Second World War, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.680 I would submit you are entering very dangerous territory if 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.640 you leave such ideas out there and leave them out unchallenged. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.760 So I'm all for the debate, but what I see 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.440 in certain realms of the rape is not actually a debate. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.000 Now let's go to the UK, where the Keir Starmer 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:29.520 government seems preoccupied with a Netflix drama Adolescens and is 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:35.400 forming policies inspired by this fictional TV series. Meanwhile, Douglas, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.200 they're watering down reviews into real misogyny, into real rape 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:45.240 culture that saw thousands of girls of young women abused 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.160 in the Grooming gang scandal. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.600 Yes, this is so typical of the British government. Kenny 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.800 Bednock was questioned on the weekend shows once again as 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.400 to why she hasn't watched this Netflix show, as if 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:05.119 it's compulsion reviewing and you know that it's it should 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.680 lead government policy and and so on. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.200 It is, it is ridiculous. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.840 I thought the drama was highly speecious, as I think 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.080 I mentioned to you before. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.920 But yes, it's it's a complete cover. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.280 I mean, Jess Phillips announced, who's mentally the minister who 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.520 looks after women's rights among other things. And she she 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.680 announced just before a recess the other day that actually 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:36.520 the government was shelving it's it's it's minimal inquiries into 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.080 some of the rape gang scandals in Britain. And she 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.040 announces that and then you know, in her side says 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.440 things like you know that the opposition raising issues of 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.760 you know who the victims are the fact that some 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.560 of the most of the victims in those grooming gangs 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.640 were subjected to the rape and tortures they were because 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.560 they were white. That mentioning that is in some way 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:04.360 islamophobic or system So this is so typical of British 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.920 politics these days, as indeed other countries' politics has been 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.200 kind of grabbed by this agenda. You pass over real 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:19.600 crimes and you talk about non crimes, you ignore unbelievable 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.359 things that have actually happened in your country, and you 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.160 fixate on a fictional Netflix drama. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.280 I wish I was surprised that this is so Labor Party. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:33.120 It is, and. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:39.000 It is absolutely mind boggling how this isn't a bigger 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.800 outrage in the UK. There aren't people marching in the 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.240 streets every weekend over this issue. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:47.600 It is. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:54.640 Rape and abuse and torture, human trafficking on an enormous 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.000 scale across the country, and so many people who seem 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.560 to be very much obsessed with women's right and human 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.120 rights pay. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.040 Its scant attention. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.919 Before you go, Douglas, I've got to ask you about 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.920 John Oliver is upsetting people in the US and beyond 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:18.199 with another lengthy rant about trans athletes apparently males of 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.960 no real advantage and women should just copy it, and 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.120 those making an issue about this and the real villains. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.480 He also seems to be an authority on what happens 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:29.680 in girls' bathrooms. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.320 Last year, for instance, Peyton McNabb tweeted the video of 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.280 her confronting a trans woman with the caption a man 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.880 using the girl's bathroom at Western Carolina University unreal, which 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:45.359 is really nasty And for the record, ambushing strangers just 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.320 minding their own business is not what girls' bathrooms are for. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.480 Girls bathrooms offer gassing each other up, making best friends 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.960 with thirty seconds, complimenting tops, tucking in tags, and zipping 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.600 up dresses. What one girl says, OMG, that lipstick looks 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:58.240 so good on you. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:00.920 I don't know about you, Douglas, but I found that 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:06.040 not only spectacularly unfunny but also a little bit creepy. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.879 I mean, what is he on about? 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.720 And what is this preoccupation with almost gas lighting the 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:18.160 audience about the real advantage that male bodies enjoy over 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.080 female bodies. That's why we have two categories. It's not 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.520 just for the to double the viewing audience. There's a 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.960 reason why women cannot compete fairly with men. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.200 Yes, it's John Oliver said you before. 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.320 I mean, it's so strange because the man, the guy 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.720 started out as a comedian, and he just doesn't. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:40.480 Seem very funny. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.719 He talks like the sort of preacher to pulpit from 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:50.000 rating his audience in the congregation of old I mean. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.600 It's very strange. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:57.719 He's not entertaining, he's telling and certainly for me at anyway, 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.920 it's not something I love in my comedy. But as 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.680 you say, there's something a little creepy better as well, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.120 because he's also I think what he's doing is he's 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.840 willing to go willing to go absolutely anywhere to defend 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:15.760 a lie which is at best cracked. I think at 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:21.200 the moment, this idea that you know, men should tell women, 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.320 that they should allow men into women's bathrooms has kind 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.399 of fallen apart of late, and it's very unpopular with 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.159 the public outside of a small minority of people who 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.240 are obsessed with the idea that until a trans woman 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.440 as they call them, can go into a women's bathroom, 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.200 nobody will be free and there'll be no. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:42.160 Justice in the world. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:48.040 But it is a strange thing. But as I say, 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.880 strangest is that he's hanging on to this idea that 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.680 this is the rights issue or something after the rest 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:01.439 of America has effectively said in the last election, we 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.920 want to get beyond this stuff. Please God, let us 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.199 just move on and stop pretending this is the big 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.680 issue and a complex issue and one that is so difficult. 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.720 We can't work it out unless you agree that all 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.960 trans men are men and all trans women are women, 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.679 and that's it, and just repeat the dogma of the time. 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:25.760 It's so extraordinary, decease it really. John Oliver is being 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:30.800 very twenty twenty there, and he should check the date 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.040 of the diary because you'll find that he's been something 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:34.680 of a coma. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.879 Absolutely, we should move to Australia because we're somewhat of 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:41.160 an outlie, Douglas. 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.080 I hate to say, we are still. 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.520 Sort of clinging to those twenty twenty notions that you know, 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:51.159 a so called gender firming care is kindness and we 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:56.080