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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting In with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh We Love This Man. Callum Hood's debut solo album,

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Speaker 2: Order Chaos Order is out tomorrow. Also an intimate performance

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Speaker 2: just for our Nova listeners last night in Nova's Red Room.

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Speaker 1: Calum Hood.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, mate, Thank you good to be home.

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Speaker 1: It feels good. It feels good to be here. It

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Speaker 1: does yeah. Staying with mum and dad?

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Speaker 4: No not honestly, last time I was staying with mum,

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Speaker 4: but this time no, I'm I'm leaving the nest?

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Speaker 3: Or did that cause trouble?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't want to stay darling?

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Speaker 1: I think she wanted to say that, but she was like, no,

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Speaker 1: do you think Do you think.

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Speaker 5: You've got to be careful doing stuff like that, because

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Speaker 5: next time you do come home from Los Angeles, your

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Speaker 5: bedroom is going to be a sewing room and there

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Speaker 5: will be no remorse.

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Speaker 1: There will be no spare key under the mats.

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Speaker 2: For a Quakers heel boy? What is it like in

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Speaker 2: La Like? Is it like for anyone who hasn't been

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Speaker 2: there before?

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Speaker 1: It is it?

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Speaker 2: It's a well I find it. We've been there a

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Speaker 2: few times work, but it is wild at the moment.

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Speaker 2: There are moments where you go, oh my gosh, this

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Speaker 2: is so totally different from what we grew up in.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm from Mount Jewett, so I don't really know

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Speaker 4: too much about quakes here, the mountain, the mountainous Peak,

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Speaker 4: you can see it from the from the studio here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's it's we've come a long way. So

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Speaker 4: it's just nice to kind of have that perspective.

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Speaker 1: I guess from from where we're from.

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Speaker 3: And when where you live over there are the other

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Speaker 3: guys near you, the other five Sauce band members.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all kind of like twenty minutes away from

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Speaker 1: each al. Yeah, great, you're all tight. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I think so it's a great story.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, it's honestly, yeah, we're probably better than ever,

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Speaker 4: so I love that.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: The group chats on fire.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you callum?

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Speaker 2: When you when you have these songs you know in

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Speaker 2: your mind and you're putting them together, do you present

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Speaker 2: them to five sous or was this something very personal

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Speaker 2: for you that you wanted to bring out solo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The solo record was just kind of like separated

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Speaker 4: from from that world. I sent them all the album

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Speaker 4: kind of when everything was finished, just because I respect

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Speaker 4: their opinion, probably more so musically than anyone else. So

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Speaker 4: I wanted to send them like the finished product essentially.

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Speaker 5: Were you nervous that it would create an issue? Because

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Speaker 5: I always think that when you know, people start off

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Speaker 5: in a band, in a group and then they go solo,

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Speaker 5: it's almost like you know someone in a marriage saying yeah,

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Speaker 5: I want to I want to sleep with someone else?

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 5: And I just wonder how they took it and if

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Speaker 5: it was a difficult conversation to have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think we thrive off of proving

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Speaker 4: like the stigma wrong. So I mean, I'm the last

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Speaker 4: one to release a solo record, so everyone has a

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Speaker 4: solo record. Ash was the first one in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: So I think for a band like us, it's actually

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Speaker 4: necessary to be able to do these types of things

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Speaker 4: rather than you know, the other way around.

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Speaker 3: Some great relationships, and I reckon it would be extremely

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Speaker 3: cathartic to go through the process of writing your own music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without everybody in the room.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent now and I've learned a lot, and

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Speaker 4: you know, having the absence without the boys has made

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Speaker 4: me really appreciate what the band is. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the friends that I've made within my bear mates, So

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Speaker 4: it feels good to have that, you know context.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, any any country flavor on order, k.

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Speaker 1: Anything with a country flavor.

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Speaker 2: Now, Christy, Christy, you don't know about this, but Callum

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Speaker 2: and Mikey, this is years and years ago. We asked them,

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Speaker 2: is there any chance that we can stitch up Ray

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Speaker 2: Hadley down at two GB. Ray we all know loves

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Speaker 2: his country in Western music, just like he's He's m Seed,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Tamworth, all the big shows. And so

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Speaker 2: the boys went down and we set up an interview

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Speaker 2: with Ray and all he knew that these two young

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Speaker 2: kids that are coming through they were known as the

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Speaker 2: Summer Brothers and they were here to perform a song.

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Speaker 2: Ray hadn't heard much about them. There wasn't much on

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Speaker 2: Google about them. And the boys went in and they

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Speaker 2: put a country spin on one of their classic hits

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Speaker 2: and it sounded like this, just thinking.

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Speaker 4: With the plane ticket and a shiny you run.

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Speaker 1: Away Too Long? I love it so perfect, Stan and

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Speaker 1: there so in lips sixteen, that's great.

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Speaker 5: I mean, country is totally mainstream now you shouldn't release it.

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Speaker 3: What was what we were saying off before Christy was

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Speaker 3: it was just that version became such so popular with

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Speaker 3: the fan base of Five Saus. They're very quickly went

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Speaker 3: can you please release that? Can you give us that version?

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Speaker 4: We actually created a whole because we did the Five

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Speaker 4: Seconds of Summer Show to celebrate ten years of Five Sus.

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Speaker 4: This is nearly five years ago now, but me and

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Speaker 4: Michael we like expanded on the Summer Brothers.

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Speaker 1: We actually have more songs now.

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Speaker 3: The Summer Brothers Man Tommy, we got a Red Route Brothers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you've just performed last night.

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Speaker 1: But well I'll have a word.

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Speaker 2: You know what it was It took me on a

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Speaker 2: country album to finally win a Grammy for Best Album.

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Speaker 2: So this this could be your opportunity for Best Album

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Speaker 2: at the A're yeah, Callen.

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you about songwriting? I just I'm so

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Speaker 5: fascinated by it and the things that happening, you know,

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Speaker 5: the writer's life sort of inspire a song. And we

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Speaker 5: just listened to Miley Cyrus actually before we you know,

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Speaker 5: started talking to you, and her song End of the World,

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Speaker 5: which everybody loves. It sounds very dramatic, but she's revealed

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Speaker 5: that it actually, you know, the kernel that started it

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Speaker 5: was the fact that her mother Tish went on a

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Speaker 5: holiday without it, and it made it feel like the

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Speaker 5: end of the warl it was the end of the world,

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Speaker 5: which was which exactly? And I'm just wondering, do you

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Speaker 5: have any songs or you know that ended up being

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Speaker 5: something that feels a lot bigger and more meaningful than

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Speaker 5: the story that started it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I think like a lot of the songs are kind

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Speaker 4: of based off of my whole life.

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Speaker 1: So there's things that I talk about that are, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, very heavily rooted in my childhood and within my

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Speaker 4: family dynamics. And then there's things about, you know, my

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Speaker 4: first breakup or my first love.

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Speaker 1: So it's like they're kind of little vigna.

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Speaker 4: It's of all the things that I find really meaningful

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Speaker 4: in terms of shaping who I am.

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Speaker 3: So don't forget you loved me. It was actually written

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Speaker 3: by your mum, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: It was written about you when she went away when

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Speaker 1: you're in great Ye.

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Speaker 2: Well, your other song, call Me When You Know Better

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Speaker 2: was a song that you made the Telstra I think

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Speaker 2: made We do love you, you know we do here

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Speaker 2: and the new album is ordered Chaos or It's out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the Red Room. We had such

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Speaker 2: a great response last night from it. It was an

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Speaker 2: intimate performance and that's what we love about the Red Room.

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Speaker 2: So calum mate. It's so good to have you back

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Speaker 2: in the studio. Brother, thank thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Haven't we good to see you? Mate?

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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