1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to do a roll three sixty rugby league from 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: every angle joining me again the great good and taller 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: let's been The journal is in Paul Crawley and Dean 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Richie and Knights in christ As a speculation intensifies around 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Kaylen Ponger and their coach, Adam O'Brien. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: What is the latest. 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: The latest is that the club continues to say it's speculation, 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: but it's out there that the coach is in serious trouble. 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: He'll be lucky to stay on past the end of 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: the season. And the moment the words starts spreading that 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: Ponger's looking at options, it tells you that he's on 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: his way. Certainly, the suggestions out of Newcastle today Braith, 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: were that the fears are increasing that Kaylen Ponger won't 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: be there next year. Some Newcastle officials desperately try to 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: find this mysterious New Zealand manager. 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: Today. 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: They found out his identity, but they couldn't find him. 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: He wouldn't return calls. And certainly there's a growing speculation 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: that he will end up in French rugby or Japanese rugby. 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: But I am told quite categorically that he will not 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: be at all interested in playing for the All Blacks. 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Why is that he just doesn't want to as I 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: understand it. What about another league team that will depend 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Braith on whether the Newcastle Knights allow that to happen. 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: He's still got two more years to go on his 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: existing deal. I'd be surprised. I think Calum Ponger wants 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: to change. I think he wants to head overseas and 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: think somewhere in France would suit Kalen. 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 5: The bitter sening in me is a bit of sunny 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 5: Bill Williams go over to Japanese or French rugby and 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: come back to the side that he's been linked to. 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: Like everybody has mentioned the Roosters, a chance. 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: On that, Oh, it's always a chance when you know 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Nick Politis is involved. But he'd have to get a release. 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: I think, no matter where he goes release him to 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: go to rugby. 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: I think they would. 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: Release him to go to rugby if they it's Calin's wish, 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: given a service that he's given to Newcastle and the 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Newcastle community. But I don't think there would be your 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: re lease to go to the Rooster So what Gordy 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: says is would be a genuine issue because if he 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: goes over and has a short stint in rugby and 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: then say, comes back next season midway through, does the 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: NRL grant him permission to play for another club or 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: do they hold firm Because the problem is, you know, 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: there's Phil good was out there last night saying, you know, 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: you'd hate to see him to go to a lost 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: to rugby league. And there's no doubt in the world 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: other clubs would want to do that if he is 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: an available player. Maybe the Knights. Maybe the Knights though, 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: see it as an opportunity to cut their losses. It 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: frees up what one point four million dollars in the 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: salary cap. They could go looking for, whether it be 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: a half back, a hooker, middle for the same amount 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: of money and move Fletcher Sharp to one. 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: But who do they buy and will get to all 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: that soon? Despital or they head Loneans. It was business 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: as usual in Still City. According to Bravin Best, there's a. 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: Bit going on outside. 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 6: There's walls, but I guess that's the media and it 62 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 6: comes with the job. But you know, us in the 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: playing group, we haven't looked too much into it. We 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: all know it's a business. At the end of the day, 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: coach is still coaching, KP is still here. So until 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 6: it comes from them, well no, no, I haven't heard 67 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: anything yet. 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: Let's start with Kaylen Ponger. 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: Are they getting value for money for him? 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: No? 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: So far, No they're not. They'll go back to twenty 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: twenty three, the final nine rounds of the season, on 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: his way to winning the dally M Medal. He was unbelievable. 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: We all know what a great player Kaitlin is when 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: he's at his very best, but value for money he hasn't. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: He hasn't averaged. I think one year he might have 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: played twenty games. The rest of the games seasons is 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: he hasn't. He hasn't named up for what his talents 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: and what his pay grade suggests. It's clearly an elite player, 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: but one point four million crawls. You're right, I don't 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: think he's given them consistent value for money. He has 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: the odd game here and there Gordon where he looks 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: like one of the all time great players, but consistently 84 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: over a sustained period, they just don't get the value. 85 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: They're not all his fault and it hasn't been been 86 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: out of form. I think the injuries as well. Yeah, 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 5: he had very different all back, he had the head 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: injuries and then obviously he's been getting a lot of 89 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 5: lower limb injuries as well. 90 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, certainly consistency. 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 5: If you look at someone like a Tedesco, you don't 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: think that they've got the value. 93 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: Even without injury this year, like if you if you 94 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: go look at his performances for Newcastle this year, he's 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: been way below his best and even at Origin level 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: this year. I thought his first two games were a 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: long way from what you expect from Cale and Ponger, 98 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: and it would have been really interesting to see if 99 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 3: Billy would have stuck with him three because he didn't 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: deserve to be in that team. 101 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: You know, it was a bit of an indifferent years 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: so far for Caitlyn, and I said it leading up 103 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to Origin two and then after Origin two, I wouldn't 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: have been surprised if they did drop him, because Billy 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: was making big calls and he wasn't good in both 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: Origin games. 107 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: Really is okay in Game one, he was poor in 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: their win in Game. 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Two, but then he had he probably his best game 110 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: of the year against the Dolphins after that game too, 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: and I thought Okay, this is looking good. He'll get 112 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: picked for Game three and it's a good opportunity for 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: him there. 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: So should he Should he repay the Knights? Though? Should he? 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: Does he owe the Knights? 116 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: Well? He said when he was negotiating his last deal 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: and he went and met with Bennett. Remember he had 118 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: that meeting with Bennett and they weren't impressed with the 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: way that the hard way Bennett went about the meeting 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: and the truth that was spoken. He said, I want 121 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: to go back to Newcastle and I want to win 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: a premiership with the Knights. Well has he achieved that? 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: Because he got his two year extension that takes him 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: through for another two years after this, and he walks 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: out without doing what he said in saying that because 126 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: he's not aiming up to his pay packet, it isn't 127 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: opportunity for Knights to use that salary and try and 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: build in another direction. You know what I got thinking 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: about it today, And I thought to himself two months ago, 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: this would have almost worked at the perfect timing for 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: the Knights because you had a guy like Sexton on 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: the market, you had read Marny on the market. You 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: would have got two for the price. 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: Of one was on the market. 135 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just it would have been the perfect 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 3: time now, at this part of the season, and who's 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: on for next year. If he is to go, it 138 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: kind of does leave him in the. 139 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Lurch, bittersweet, I think, because if he goes to another club, 140 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: you could see him killing it. 141 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: But Bulldog. 142 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: Before we unpacked this any further, a short message from 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: your biggest supporter. 144 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: Unfortunately I can't speak one is it? Genis the bullfrog? 145 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Richie? 146 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: Genis the bullfrog? Richie? 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Well there he is a great andro. 148 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: We haven't spoken for a while. 149 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: Bra. 150 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: He changed your nickname for it. 151 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: I get more bull frog than bulldogs. So for that, Andrew, 152 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: I say thank you to Andrew. If carl And goes, 153 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: you can go as well. 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: And get Dennis as well. I get Dennis as well. 155 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: I get it all, but you get worse. Look like 156 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: a Dennis. 157 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: You think the Knights would be happy to see the 158 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: back of him or not. 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that break, but I think they could 160 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: get more value for their one point four million dollars 161 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: ago who nowhere and who Well, I think they'd be 162 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: looking at either half back or in the halves where 163 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: they're straight. 164 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 5: Boarding Dylan Brown to play that, but I still think 165 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 5: there's another spot. 166 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: Let's be feed ink and Dylan Brown has shown no 167 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: signs of being a chief playmaker at number seven? Does 168 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: he like what Mitchell moses, He's have an opportunity in 169 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: recent times and he just hasn't hasn't taken on that 170 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: responsibility at paramount. 171 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Dylan is not half. 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: They need a half. They've spent exactly what they need 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: one three to. 174 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: One four in him a year now for the next 175 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: ten years, they need a genuine seven. 176 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: Who would you go for? 177 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: Who? Like I said Sexton, if he if he would 178 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: have been available a month or two ago, he would 179 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: have been the perfect buy. Money would have been a 180 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: great buy his way down to Camber next. He has 181 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: been available, Yes, but they didn't know at that stage 182 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: that Calen was potentially going to walk out at the 183 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: end of the season, did they. 184 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they still needed a halfback. Yeah, Karen's not 185 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 5: going to go into the number sets. 186 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but salary cap Woise losing having free up 187 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: one point four million dollars opens up a lot of. 188 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Money for a halfback. Yeah, and you know that can 189 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: they pinch one? Do they get the next up? And 190 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: coming young gun, a couple. 191 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: Of those, one of the Rousters boys. If Cavin pung 192 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: the leaves and goes to play rugby overseas, what's his legacy? 193 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: Does he go down to an NR all great? I 194 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: don't think I can put him in that category. Oh 195 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: potentially he could have been. 196 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 4: I think I don't think he a very good reached that. 197 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: I think he's a very good player. He's played great 198 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: at State of Origin. 199 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: He's played really good at every level, probably just not 200 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: as consistent as some of the greatest playmakers. 201 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: But he has been a good player. 202 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: He's has he been a great captain for Newcastle. There's 203 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: another question I reckon that you look at and you 204 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: think fairly or unfairly when you think of Caylene, you 205 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: often go back to Strawberry milkshake quote when when Nathan 206 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: Brown's job was on the line at the time, And 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: I reckon, it's a problem at the club at the 208 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: moment is they've gone so far away from the DNA 209 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: that made the Knights so successful. Like when you look 210 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: back through all the great Knights players, they were they 211 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: worked to that Newcastle culture, that hard working, down to 212 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: earth sort of blokes and to me. There's still players 213 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: in that system who who represent what that's about. But 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: I think from a leadership perspective, and I think I'm 215 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: going up to the chief executive, through to the coach 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: through to the captain, I think they've lost their way. 217 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: Like you go back to the Chiefs of the World 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: and the John's Brothers, the Ghiblis, you know, Robbie McCall, 219 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: mac Mark Sargeant, all those blokes that Mark Glanville who 220 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: typified what Newcastle about. I think that that's where they 221 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: need to get back as a culture at that club. 222 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Now, if for. 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: Night's move on O'Brien, are they smart enough to pick 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: the right replacement, cause. 225 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a maskers. 226 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: I don't think Adam. 227 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: Look, I'll preface this by saying he's done a very 228 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: good job. They've made the finals four out of the 229 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: last five years, and I think he's been hard done 230 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: by it if they do give him the boot. But 231 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: they've finished seventh, seventh, fourteenth, fifth and eighth under Adam O'Brien. 232 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: So the concern I have Gordy is that is he 233 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: the man to get them to the next level, the 234 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: next level which I'm talking weeks two and three in 235 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: the finals based on what we've seen, No he hasn't 236 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: or no he can't, or beat he's got them there. 237 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: But I'm just worrying whether they stagnate in week one 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: of the finals and that's all the juice he can 239 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: get out of the Orange. 240 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: Well, obviously they're concerned about That's why they look like 241 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: they're going to move him on. It's not one hundred percent, 242 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: of course, but it looks like they will. Who do 243 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: you think takes the Spoo's the right man for the job, 244 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: and are they going to make the right decision? 245 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: Like you said, are they going to make the right decision? 246 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: Do you have trust in their administration given some of 247 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: their decisions in recent times, that they're going to make 248 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: the right decision. Because the concern for me, you look 249 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: at Adam O'Brien. If Adam O'Brien would have started his 250 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: coaching head coaching career at a different club, Look at 251 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: the guys like would Trent Robinson to be a three 252 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: time premiership winning coach if he didn't start at the Roosters, 253 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: Say he started at the West Tigers. When Cameron Siraldo 254 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: was kicking off his career, he had an opportunity to 255 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: go to West Tigers, but he chose the Bulldogs because 256 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: of what was their Gus Gould, the system, and he 257 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: thought there's more chance of me having success there. 258 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 5: The answer is Wayne Bennett Castle. My concern Wayne Bennett 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: at the Broncos, at the Dragons. 260 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my concern with the Knights at the moment 261 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: is are the leadership capable of knowing what the right 262 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: decision is? Firstly? And secondly when that coach arrived waves, 263 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: will they give him the power to take control of 264 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: that club? Which would be the concern if it was 265 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: an inexperienced young coach that hadn't been there and he 266 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: walked into that environment that moment, you just wonder if 267 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: he'd be suffocated by the power above him. Crawls the 268 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: bloke and the right there, he's your man. He'll be 269 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: the next Newcastle coach. That's the mail I'm getting. Blake 270 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: Green highly regarded a Newcastle, well liked and a coach 271 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: of immense potential. I think you'll find he will be 272 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: the man. I did a bit of digging today, Adam O'Brien, 273 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: I think you'll find breath is safe for this year. 274 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: I asked some well placed sources. Is there any chance 275 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: he could survive next year? They didn't seem to think 276 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: that would be the case. But I don't think they'll 277 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: sack him mid season. That all obviously depends on the 278 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: results over the next seven or eight weeks. You say 279 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: he's your man, that's. 280 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: The mast question. 281 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Is he the right man? Because going back to the 282 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: original point, it's just that he hasn't got the experience 283 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: to walk in there and take control. That would be 284 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 3: my concern. Like you've got a guy like Brad out 285 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: You understands he's been in the club and as I understands, 286 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: the attack coach at the. 287 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: If you're. 288 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 5: And you're going to step up and be the next coach, 289 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 5: aren't all your ideas out there helping. 290 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Or call them? 291 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: I don't understand who you guys want as coach. 292 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: If you don't want someone, do you want an outsider? 293 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: Do you want a Newcastle DNA person? 294 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: Who do you want? 295 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's not a matter of who I want, it's 296 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: who might be best suited. And if I was looking 297 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: at where the Knights are at the moment, I would 298 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: probably think an experienced coach would be a better fit 299 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: for them to potentially tell the other Blakes to rack 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: off and let me take charge. A guy like Brad 301 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Arthur would be perfect. If you go back through Brad 302 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: brad Arthur's history of Paramatta, he took over a club 303 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: that had won and Wooden Spoon. They had terrible boardroom dramas, 304 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: salary cap dramas. He was the only guy that put 305 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: his head up through that entire stage and Brick Bride Brick. 306 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: He built a team that got to a Grand Final 307 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: against Penrith and after that it kind of fell apart, 308 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: didn't it. But I think he's got the runs on 309 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: the board that suggested to me he could do a 310 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: mighty job up there. 311 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: I know they're a big fan of Blake Green. I've 312 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: heard that coming out of the club for a long 313 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: period of time. I think you're you make a great point, 314 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: but I think you're on the money. I think Green 315 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: is front and center and probably favored to get it. 316 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Now Knights in damage control over Alex McKinnon. Gaff Now 317 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Dave Ricky, I wrote this story this afternoon, I believe 318 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: in the Daily Telegraph. 319 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: I think it was on the website. But what's happened equals. 320 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Very sad, So Dave Rickyo reported today that Alex turned 321 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: up at the Knights game against the Storm on the weekend, 322 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: paid his own way in sat on the hill and 323 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: unbeknownst to him before the game, I think Dave wrote 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: that someone had pointed out that there was a charity 325 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: promotion going on at the other end of the field 326 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: involving a spinal charity. And I think it was just 327 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: the lack of involved here because it was a game 328 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: against the Storm and you go back, what was it 329 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: thirteen years or eleven years now, and Alex suffered his 330 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: injury against the Storm and it's just a poor choice, 331 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: Like doesn't Alex McKinnon deserve not to pay his way 332 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: into a game and he's not the one blowing up 333 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: about this, but it's just the poor taste all over. Surely, 334 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: surely the christ I ask question should be in that 335 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: should have two seats set aside for him in his 336 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: fair that's every week. 337 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: That's a great point. I think the Broncos have different tiers. 338 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: If you play certain amount of games or whatever, I 339 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: get two tickets for the rest of my life. I 340 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 5: think if you play three hundred games, you get two 341 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 5: Grand Final tickets for the rest of your life. If 342 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: you've sacrificed yourself playing for a club the way he has, 343 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: wouldn't you think he has family season tickets for the 344 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: rest of his life? 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: Isn't something? Isn't that what Newcastle Woyah? 346 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I had interesting details with this, but I see it 347 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: as a complete overside and it kind of explain white 348 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: clubs are in the position they are, you know, like 349 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I know clubs that I've been had to deal with 350 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: in the past, played for whatever it may be, had 351 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: relationships with. It stands out the ones that are successful 352 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: because this would never happen, you know, like it's it's 353 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: like every ex player and especially in Alex's position, would 354 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: always be granted anything, any tickets they wanted, any jerseys 355 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: they did, to bring kids in, family friends. 356 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's just not an issue. 357 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: You've just got constant contact with the front desk and 358 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: there's normally someone that looks after you twenty four to seven, 359 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't end up in this situation. 360 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: You really didn't have to ask to they should be 361 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: ringing him and if you embarrassed they would they would. 362 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: And go back to my point about the Knight's DNA, 363 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: there would have been a time at that club where 364 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: this wouldn't have happened, and you're sport on breath and 365 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: now it does happen. It's cut to the chase. This 366 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: starts and stops with Phil Gardener. He is the CEO. 367 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: We all get caught up in our own busy worlds, 368 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: but there is a thing in obly put some sensitivity. 369 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: He deserved that and he deserves to be law for 370 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: the courage that kid showed while playing for that club. 371 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: For him to have to pay to sit on the hill. 372 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: When Phil Gardner is the CEO and he can blame 373 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: who he likes. It starts and stops with him, and 374 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: then with the bad taste in respect to the Spinal 375 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: Charity on the day they're playing the storm like it's just. 376 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: It's detail and in many ways, you know, in many ways. 377 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the inns and out. 378 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: It's around twenty things to sports betting. There are a 379 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: few big ones this week, all right, Gordy out of 380 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: the way, champ Townsend replaces injured Savala for the Roosters. 381 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: Cleary and you arrested for seous clash. Walker out for 382 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: the season, and Dodd he gets to start this week 383 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: on the bench. Dylan Brown dropped to eighteenth men for 384 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: paramatter Galvin two halfback Sexton drop that's the big one. 385 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Taylor may to make club debut at center for the 386 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: West Tigers. In Cameron Serudo's decision to put Lachlin Galvin 387 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: in the seven had plenty of support. 388 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 7: In Belmoud said it before, Locke's year pretty much the 389 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 7: first person here every day, working hard in his game 390 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 7: and on the field. He's been really chasing excellence and yeah, 391 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 7: I guess he's shot this weekend. Obviously, you check on 392 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 7: Toby and Toby's a great, great person, team first mentality. 393 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: He mus get on with it. 394 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 7: He's out there today ripping in for the Bury side, 395 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 7: helping us get better. 396 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, excited that he's been playing good footy. 397 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 8: We know he's a good player, and yeah he's got 398 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 8: the call up this week and we. 399 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: Hope he does a great job for us. 400 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 8: Toby's a good mate of all of ours obviously, and 401 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 8: that's just part of the game and it's hard for 402 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 8: him and you know we're all going to be there 403 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 8: to support him. It's been building a year and they 404 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 8: have finally made the decision. 405 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: He has been the talk of the town, the talk 406 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: of the NL. Lachlan Galvin and we said last night, 407 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: if you're going to pull a trigger, then pull it 408 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: and bang Saldo has done it straight away. Galvin into 409 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: the seven Jersey. Toby Sexton dropped thoughts. 410 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: I think that finally Cameron Cerrello has reached support where 411 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: he said I've got to make a call here and 412 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: he's made it. I don't think this is a week 413 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: to week like we've seen in the last month. 414 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 4: I think this is the future. 415 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: This is the future, this is the. 416 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: Way they want to go. 417 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: The question though, is when he has played during his 418 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: limited time on the field this year Cruils, he's been 419 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 3: quite disjointed Lochland Gavin. That will come obviously the more 420 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: time he spends on the field. 421 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 4: They've got eight weeks to get it right. 422 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: The question I'll ask you, Gordy is they have to 423 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: score more points because I don't think they can win 424 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 3: the comp That's a question form half without Lachland Galvin. 425 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: But they are a DNA defensive side. Does this mean 426 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: that Cameron Cerrello is now trying to alter the DNA 427 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: two months out of the finals now, I don't think so. 428 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: You're right, And I said it last night. 429 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I said that watching their attack on the weekend against 430 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, who are the worst defensive team in the competition, 431 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: and only scoring the amount of points that they did, 432 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: and actually the way that it was very clunky and 433 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: they haven't really evolved. There was a period there I 434 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: thought they were evolving with Sexton and I thought they 435 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: could win the comp with him in half and the 436 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: way that they were attacking. But a a week and 437 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm not so sure. So 438 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: I could kind of and then I looked at the 439 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: stats and I saw the stats and when I when 440 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: I kind of dug a little deeper and realized that 441 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: they had support from the playing group. And it wasn't 442 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, them just chucking sext and out to dry 443 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the other players. 444 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: You believe in Galvin and want him there. I'm like, okay, well. 445 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: Believe there no, no, no, no, true. 446 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: That is true. 447 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: Every week you know that the players. 448 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Have interviewed seven, they will say he's the best man 449 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: for the job. 450 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: Next week is somebody else? The players will say, we 451 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: support him. 452 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: I get it, but you believe in some players more so, Yeah, 453 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 5: of course you go there in the seventeen teammates you 454 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: do believe in, but there's some that used to have 455 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 5: a lot more faith than trusting. 456 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: See. 457 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: I trust Kemern throughout it right, and I rate him 458 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: highly as a coach, and I think he can win them. 459 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: I've said at the start that he can win them 460 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: a premiership. With that team, they've got to win a 461 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: combay to the next three to four years. They've gone 462 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: better than I thought. He knows what it takes to 463 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: win a premiership. He knows what attack he needs. He 464 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: knows he's not getting that attack. Galvin's going to take time. 465 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: And the jury is still out on Galvin. It's still 466 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: out on Galvin. But he thinks that their best chance 467 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: of their attack evolving and going to another level to 468 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: match the lights of the Melbourne Storms and Canberra is 469 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: with Galvin in it, and Sexton just didn't get there. 470 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: I think good luck to Galvin. You know, he's a 471 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: twenty year old young man who's had the weight of 472 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: the world on his shoulders in recent times. Like you say, 473 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: no one would know what's going to work best for 474 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: them than Cameron Serraudo. But the proof will be in 475 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: the pudding, and I guess the concern, you know is 476 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: obviously you talk about the Bulldogs need to grow a 477 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: leg and attack, But when I think about the fact 478 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: that they did lead the premiership for two parts of 479 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: the season, and what they built their success on was 480 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: their defense, their commit commitment to one another, and you 481 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: would just hope that this doesn't pull apart their greater 482 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 3: strength to try and strength and a weakness. And and 483 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: if you go back to Galvin's most recent game too, 484 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 3: you know the old saying you're only as good as 485 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: your last game. Well, well that last game. He was 486 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: far from impressive in that game because he threw two 487 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 3: bullets through Matt Burton's body and he gave kick our 488 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: another one. Like, I just wonder where this has come 489 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: from on the back of that performance. Well, this is 490 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: the reason you just said bra was quite unfair. I 491 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: don't know if it was a throwaway line, but you 492 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 3: just said before Sexton just didn't quite get there. Surely 493 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: that's debatable. He took them to the top of them everything, 494 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: everything is debatable. But he took them to the table 495 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: a second, so he did get them. 496 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is is he didn't get 497 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: to the level that they wanted in attack. They didn't 498 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: evolve enough to match the likes of Melbourne, Canberra, even 499 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: the Broncos with their attack. 500 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: Their defense is great. 501 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Now Serreno's put his balls online here he's going to 502 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: get He's happy to take a few steps back right 503 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: now over this eight week period to then get in 504 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks where they want to be. 505 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: It may not work. 506 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: This is a risk and I've said that all along 507 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not taking that back. 508 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: It has been a distraction. But finally we've wanted a call. 509 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, this uncertainty and off the bench should go 510 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: to nine and you come on and play in the 511 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Burt in the center that's gone. 512 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: He's made the call. 513 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: And it's a brave call. Like you look at what 514 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: Billy did in the State of origin. You know he's 515 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: he's backed himself that he's made the right call. But 516 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: going back to the Bulldog's attack, remember also that Stephen 517 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Crichton wasn't there on the weekend. When you think of 518 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: their strengths. 519 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: They got a five right and kick number nine to 520 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: pin all your attack on seven when there's a six 521 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: that's played eighteenth man, you've got two big centers, You've. 522 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 4: Got to fall back and you've got a number nine. 523 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: They've all need to step. 524 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: Up because you know, like even going back to Cameron's 525 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: comments last week about it, you can't understand, you know, 526 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: the ridiculous attention that Lachlin's received. This takes it to 527 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: the next levels, it really does. 528 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: It's not you to think that, you know, that's where 529 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I disagree with Cameron, Like it's even to think or 530 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: be surprised by the attention this is received. 531 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: And it's going to continue. You know, it's going to 532 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: keep it. 533 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: We'll go up to the next level now because the 534 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: Bulldog season is writing on this decision now, because you 535 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 3: know that they're at top four certainty, and a lot 536 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: of people considered them rightly so as a team that 537 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: could have won the comp without. 538 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: This change, and just to go back to sex and 539 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: has done a magnificent job he has, like there is 540 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: no denying that. And I feel sorry for him, and 541 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I've defended him a lot of the year, but I 542 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: can see looking at the stats was an opener to me, 543 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: looking at the zero line breaks, and you know he 544 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: was down the bottom of warharves and the competition in 545 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: terms of line break assists and all that, and it 546 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: is harsh, but you know. 547 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: Look, I agree with the attack breath, and I agree 548 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: again that they probably do need some spark there. But 549 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: why are we trying to find a negative and a positive? 550 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: Whatever they have been doing, whether it's been right or wrong, 551 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: they are still in the top two, So who's to 552 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: say they desperately need an overhaul and attack? I think 553 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: they do, But the general consensus is why it's working. 554 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: Could be like Tiger Woods, he changed the swing. 555 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: There, Honestly it could. 556 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: And this is the thing here, right like the head 557 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: coaches made the He's made the call, and he will 558 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: live and die by that, as they all do, you know, 559 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: but I think he's made the right one, you know, 560 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: having more of a deeper look into it the last 561 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: couple of days, Bulldog's bite. 562 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: What he got for us? Do you bulldogs? By what 563 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: I've done? Brother? Is? 564 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: I thought? I just questioned the amount of scrutiny that 565 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: the public and those on podcasts and the media to 566 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: some degree have on coaches this year. I've added up 567 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: there's eight coaches who have been under the pump and 568 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: we are nineteen rounds in. Just because you have some 569 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: short term failures or a lack of success. You don't 570 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: need to target them and to sack them. Hasler, Peyton, Seabold, McGuire, O'Brien, 571 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: Marshall and now Bennett. And you want to throw in Lourie, 572 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: you can as well. Eight coaches who have been under 573 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: the pump. It's July and the season started in March. 574 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: It's got to stop. I think we have to start 575 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: giving coaches a little bit more time. Yes, I know, 576 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 3: we in the media have to hold coaches and everyone 577 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: in the game accountable. Why are you smiling, Broke because 578 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 3: we started the show on Adam O'Brien. 579 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 9: Such a nice career, such a nice way we have 580 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 9: to critique. 581 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: But I think this this. 582 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: Collective Billy Slater last week? 583 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: Let me is this because jobs. 584 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 9: Exactly collectives on the chopping balls now rivaling the E 585 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 9: p L and the NFL in America, and I just 586 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 9: think it's becoming increasingly unfair talking about. 587 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: I get your response to this. 588 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: I just think that I think that it comes with 589 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: the job. 590 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 8: You know. 591 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: I remember one time I was on a drive somewhere 592 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: and a local policeman is in the coffee shop and 593 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: he's come outside and he wanted to have a chat 594 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: and that time it was a Tiger supporter and he 595 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: felt really sorry for Michael McGuire and what he was 596 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: going through. And I said, mate, you know what I said. 597 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, but save your sympathy. Michael 598 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: McGuire was on six hundred or seven hundred thousand dollars. 599 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: You know, the policeman's out there probably on one hundred 600 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: and twenty nurses, doctors, everyone in their life has pressure 601 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: on him. That comes with the paypacker. When you're in, 602 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: when you're in the big chair, mate's going to happen. 603 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: That's a low blog, Dog, I loved your gord. 604 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: You know what was three. 605 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: Losses now and everyone jumps on the coach's back. Three 606 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: That's not true, that's not true. 607 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: What about what this plot went through about a month 608 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 4: and a half ago. 609 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I was gone but made. Unfortunately, Dog, 610 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: these days there is there is so much focus on 611 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: rugby league, and you respond and you analyze and comment 612 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: about what's happening in the moment things change. Unfortunately, it 613 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: just it's part of the deal. 614 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: Mate. 615 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 4: You're okay, love your work. 616 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: Stick your journized this Sunday from ten a m. 617 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: Team zero fights to become a two time world champion, 618 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: live from Las Vegas. It's the only Australian fight worth 619 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: watching next week and it's only on at nine event. 620 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: That's a bad cut blood and cut hard for split decision. 621 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: You should have killed me in the first because I'm 622 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: coming back with the revenge the. 623 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: Way I like to. 624 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: Phase two just break faces and I'm going in there 625 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 6: too to hurt him. 626 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: Stick. 627 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: True boy. 628 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 9: Any means love things, only hate division Champion of the World. 629 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: Too many heality mortality,