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Speaker 1: On sco Lils Oscodia thinks it's the winder Panety Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Pannety Show coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight.

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Speaker 3: What's behind the rift between.

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Speaker 2: The Victorian Liberal leader and the Federal Liberal leader Peter Darton.

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Speaker 2: The new chair of the Australian Sports Commission, Kate Jenkins

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Speaker 2: criticized for undermining female athletes with a raft of trans

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Speaker 2: inclusion policies. David Limbrick joins me to discuss We'll have

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Speaker 2: the Great Alex Epstein fact checking Albo's big battery claims,

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Speaker 2: and Kinziscofield joins me with the latest celebrity news, including

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Speaker 2: reports that Kate Blanchette has taken a stand on the

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Speaker 2: Israeli Palestinian conflict and he left is losing it. We

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Speaker 2: get marriage advice from the leader of the Free World.

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Speaker 2: I said, have a young man think you getting married

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Speaker 2: marrying a family.

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Speaker 4: Of five or more daughters? I did my wife's sowld

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Speaker 4: us a five sisters. You know why Wonderful's always love you.

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Speaker 2: Here to go over the day's top stories, this Sky

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Speaker 2: News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. Just as the Victorian Liberals

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Speaker 2: get some good news that had a fantastic poll in

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Speaker 2: the Age. This week, John Pursuto, the hapless Leader goes

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Speaker 2: and spoils it. It's got a feud with Peter Dutton happening,

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Speaker 2: The Herald Sun reports, in a move that's done sections

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Speaker 2: of the party and some of his own MPs. John

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Speaker 2: Pursuita this week refused to attend a Liberal Party multicultural

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Speaker 2: dinner headlined by Peter Dutton after being told he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be allowed to make a speech. His political judgment is lacking,

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Speaker 2: to say the least kosher.

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Speaker 5: It would be hard to dry any other conclusion for sure.

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Speaker 5: Not exactly covering himself in political savvy in fighting is

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Speaker 5: never a good look. Having internal dirty laundry within a

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Speaker 5: party airing out is never a good look. We see

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Speaker 5: these cracks happening more and more in different political parties. Here,

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Speaker 5: of course, it seems to all be downstream from that

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Speaker 5: original sin of the more redeeming situation and amerquent sideways

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Speaker 5: from there, and you're just seeing a show up in

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Speaker 5: different ways. It was a bit ironic because it was

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Speaker 5: a multicultural dinner and that's his portfolio. But here we are, and.

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Speaker 2: It's said that more deeming a FED does have a

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Speaker 2: FED bit to do about this rift. It's been reported

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton wasn't particularly happy with the timing of some

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Speaker 2: of that action, undermining the lead up to the ast

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Speaker 2: and by election. So you can understand why the FEDS

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Speaker 2: would be looking on not too happy, because you would

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Speaker 2: think if any state has a party that should be

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Speaker 2: flying in opposition, it should be the Liberals.

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Speaker 3: That the problems we've got in this.

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Speaker 2: State, with the debt highest stet of any state in

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Speaker 2: the country, state taxes going up, so much dissatisfaction, and

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Speaker 2: yet despite this poll, I think most people would expect

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Speaker 2: if there was an election today, labor would win.

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Speaker 5: Indeed, a lot of people did expect that after the

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Speaker 5: lock down fiasco as well, and we did have an election,

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Speaker 5: So who knows. That's a bigger topic, but it does

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Speaker 5: feel a little bit like snatching defeat from the jobs

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Speaker 5: of victory. Yeah, all the fundamentals are favorable to the

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Speaker 5: Liberal Party, as you pointed out, and it feels like

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a head scratcher that if they're

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Speaker 5: not able to advantage that for their own re electoral prospects,

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Speaker 5: then what would they What would it take.

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Speaker 2: Now to a story broken by the Australian newspaper that

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Speaker 2: really exposes some troubling cultural issues at Channel nine, and

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Speaker 2: the chief executive, Mike Sneezebe, is now urging the company's

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Speaker 2: staff to come forward with any complaints about inappropriate behavior.

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Speaker 2: This follows claims about former news boss Darren Wick's behavior,

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Speaker 2: but Kosher, this concern for the welfare of stuff only

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Speaker 2: came about after The Australian broke this story. Before that,

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Speaker 2: they appeared to be going out of their way to

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Speaker 2: hide any wrongdoing in the workplace. So excuse me if

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit dubious about their claims of caring

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Speaker 5: Now it has shades, and obviously this is still an

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Speaker 5: investigation internally that's ongoing and that will run its course.

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Speaker 5: But from what we know so far, it really to

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Speaker 5: me had shades of all these other things that we've seen,

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Speaker 5: whether it was Fox News, CBS, less members, Harvey Weinstein,

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Speaker 5: you know, it was sort of not equating and give

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Speaker 5: in a pretty egregious way. Everybody knew about it, and

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Speaker 5: they never say anything until somebody leaks at breaks and

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Speaker 5: it's impossible to ignore, and then they can conduct these

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Speaker 2: Vein Well, we'll say at this point nothing has been proven,

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Speaker 2: but there's certainly allegations and how someone in a position

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Speaker 2: something that Channel I weren't completely transparent about it at

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Speaker 2: the time. Reporter r V Yemeni has captured incredible footage

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Speaker 2: of himself being threatened by pro Palestinian activists thugs really

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna what are you going

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Speaker 4: to do live?

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do live?

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Speaker 6: What are you going to do live?

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Speaker 7: What do you get my way?

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Speaker 4: You're the camera?

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Speaker 8: You want to me?

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Speaker 4: Why did you turn my way?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 10: Why did you turn?

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Speaker 3: This is Victoria Kosher.

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Speaker 2: The police watched a man throw what looked like a bottle,

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Speaker 2: look like the threats were being made a lot of aggression,

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Speaker 2: and they did nothing even as they see the entire

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Speaker 3: So if they've got.

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Speaker 2: Someone here with a profile who's got a camera crew there,

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Speaker 2: and they don't do nothing.

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Speaker 2: Think what their approach would be if you're just an

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Speaker 5: For sure, it's hard to really understand why when there's

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Speaker 5: you know, flinging a bottle as you say, that's when

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Speaker 5: it crosses that line. There's a lot of talk about

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Speaker 5: crosses over. That would be an example when it crossed over.

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Speaker 5: And it is interesting. I'm not sure we could speculate

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Speaker 5: But needless to say, for somebody like Avi who had

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Speaker 2: Victoria police really need to be far more consistent in

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Speaker 2: This is really undermining faith in the police force. Now

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Speaker 2: let's go to the UK, where Prime Minister Isshi Sunak

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Speaker 2: held on July fourth this year. The Daily Telegraph calls

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Speaker 2: it a gamble. That's putting it lightly. They also mocked

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Speaker 2: his rain drenched appearance with things can only get wetter.

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Speaker 3: His party is.

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Speaker 2: Behind in the polls, Kosher badly, twenty seven points behind

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Speaker 3: But you have inflation falling. He's got this.

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Speaker 2: Rwandant plan that finally seems to be making its way

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Speaker 3: It's a gamble.

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Speaker 5: Indeed, gamble. I've heard it described as a suicide mission

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Speaker 5: instead of I like that one better that you know

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Speaker 5: you're going down, so just cut your losses and go out,

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Speaker 5: go down on your own terms. Earlier who knows, but

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Speaker 5: it seems like something along those lines. We talked earlier

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Speaker 5: this is kind of the same thing that they had

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Speaker 5: a massive majority in twenty nineteen. People in the UK

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Speaker 5: are really really dissatisfied with both parties. Huge issues, immigration, inflation,

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Speaker 5: if there were ever a party that had an opportunity

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Speaker 5: should have been the Liberal Party. When they're in power.

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Speaker 5: They completely failed to do that and many are not surprised,

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Speaker 5: including people who are sympathetic to them or voters of them,

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Speaker 5: a lot of them saying that they deserve to lose.

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Speaker 3: Other tories have been so hopeless.

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Speaker 2: They really have. They've been in power for such a

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll find out very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Now's who Israeli campaign group which is released really disturbing

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Speaker 2: This is female troops being captured by her mass militants

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Speaker 2: on October seven. The families of these victims want this

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Speaker 2: footage to be shown. These young women are still hostages

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Speaker 4: Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And kosher.

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Speaker 2: The plight of these hostages has been lost in the

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Speaker 2: There's nothing said about the hostages. It's almost their hostile

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Speaker 2: look at that and it is just so sadistic and barbaric.

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Speaker 5: It is a just stick and barbaric, and that's why

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Speaker 5: the family members released it. I think as they're trying

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Speaker 5: been more than six months, seven months, where is the

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Speaker 5: hostage negotiation strategy, where is a hostage rescue plan? Why

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Speaker 5: aren't they more of a focal point, as you say,

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Speaker 5: And I think this issue is just morerphed. You know,

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Speaker 5: its tentacles have turned up in all sorts of venues,

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Speaker 5: from free speech to immigration, and different factions of people

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Speaker 5: But the one thing that was the most unifying in

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Speaker 5: All sides generally agree with that, and it's completely gotten

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and some world leaders are rewarding Hamas's barbaric attack

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Speaker 2: by announcing that they recognize the state of Israel. His

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Speaker 2: Irish Prime Minister Simon Harris.

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Speaker 11: Last month, I stood on these same steps with Prime

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Speaker 11: Minister Sanchez of Spain, and we said that the point

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Speaker 11: of recognizing the state of Palestine was coming closer. That

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Speaker 11: point has now arrived. Today Ireland, Norway and Spain are

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Speaker 11: announcing that we recognize the state of Palestine. Each of

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Speaker 11: us will now undertake whatever national steps are necessary to

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Speaker 11: give effect to that decision.

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Speaker 2: Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs wrote on x Today's decision

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Speaker 2: sends a message to the Palestinians and the world that

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Speaker 2: terrorism pa. He also said, these countries are choosing to

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Speaker 2: reward her mass and I ran by recognizing a Palestinian

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Speaker 2: state strong words, and then now before you go Kosher.

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Speaker 2: Fox News's Bill Milujin has done superb work on the

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Speaker 2: US border crisis, has been reporting on it for many

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Speaker 2: Years've seen millions, yes, millions, pouring through that southern border

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Speaker 2: illegally every year of Biden's presidency. Here he is interviewing

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Speaker 2: some recent arrivals, and this group are not economic migrants

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Speaker 2: from Mexico or even South America. They have traveled all

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Speaker 8: Where he goes from the country, Folks, Pakistan, India, India, Turkey, Yeah, Turkey, Okay, Yeah, India,

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Speaker 2: We're hearing the numbers may increase further because they want

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Speaker 2: Kosha Gator, thank you so much for your time to

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Speaker 3: David, the new chair of the.

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Speaker 2: Australian Sports Commission, Kate Jenkins, has said, my vision is

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Speaker 2: But before female athletes celebrate this a little too much,

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Speaker 12: Well, look, I think what Rachel Wong's saying here is

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Speaker 2: Well, you've put up a private members built to remove

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you are being

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Speaker 2: I guess because thank you, and it's something you really

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Speaker 3: Before you go, we're seeing wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Things from Argentina's new Leaderjava Mila. Here's a libertarian like yourself.

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Speaker 12: Well, he's been handed one of the probably one of

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Speaker 2: David Limbrick, thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Alex Epstein breaks down left's latest claims that climate change.

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Speaker 3: Is racist plus lefties losing it Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time for lefties losing it. We've been seeing

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Speaker 10: I just I mean, you keep saying sort of, I'm

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Speaker 7: I'm sure you've voted for her in sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Well, she's not an election denayer.

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Speaker 7: She absolutely was the og election denier.

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Speaker 10: Then spent the next four years seeing he was illegitimate,

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Speaker 1: She okay, well, first of all saying she didn't say

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Speaker 3: She said those exact words, Bill.

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Speaker 2: Is Bill maher really that clueless about Hillary Clinton's election

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Speaker 3: Was Ma hiding under a rock for the years she pushed.

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Speaker 13: I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. He knows

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Speaker 13: you can even become the nominee, and you can have

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Speaker 13: the election stolen from you.

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Speaker 2: Apparently Bill mam missed that, and he also missed the

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Speaker 2: truth about January six.

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Speaker 3: Or as he calls it, the insurrection.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen now to some of his paranoid fantasies.

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Speaker 4: In January twentieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: He'll show up at the White House, whether he's invited

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Speaker 1: or not, and I don't think that's going.

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Speaker 4: To be good.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna bomb in if he yes, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bomb is a word I wouldn't even throw around lightly.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to do that, right like there was

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Speaker 1: never an attack on the Capitol I hear you, I

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Speaker 1: hear you.

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Speaker 3: But he's sho.

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Speaker 4: They didn't show up at.

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Speaker 1: The Capitol and break windows and knock down doors and

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Speaker 1: killed cops and chased And they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't break windows.

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Speaker 7: They of course did, No, they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Who did? They died of natural causes that day, the Capitol.

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Speaker 3: Police officer, Brian Sicknick.

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Speaker 14: The medical examiner has determined that he suffered two strokes

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Speaker 14: and died of natural causes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody died that day, cops.

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Speaker 1: No, not true, okay, oh, I don't remember the names.

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Speaker 7: They didn't. There was Brian Sicknick, who died later after

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Speaker 7: the fact.

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Speaker 2: Megan Gilly is so much smarter, better informed, and better

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Speaker 2: at her job than my it's frightening.

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Speaker 3: He's the best I've got, though.

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Speaker 2: And the man who prides himself on his depth of

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Speaker 2: knowledge and critical thinking skills kept on embarrassing himself here.

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Speaker 2: Megan schools him on the selective enforcement of the law

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Speaker 2: that saw Biden still classified documents and not be charged.

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Speaker 10: One actually had the ability to declassify documents and keep

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Speaker 10: them because he'd been the president, and one didn't because

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Speaker 10: he should have been looking at documents only in a skiff.

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Speaker 10: While sitting US senator, and clearly he stole classified documents

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Speaker 10: that he wasn't entitled to and never had the ability

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Speaker 10: to declassify them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe him know more about that than I do.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that part of it, and I always

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Speaker 1: don't trust anything I hear until I that it from

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Speaker 1: the other side, because everybody sort of has their one

485
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Speaker 1: sided view of it, and narrative is more important than truth.

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Speaker 1: I know this is the right wing narrative.

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Speaker 7: I not like that, Bill.

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Speaker 10: I care about facts. I practice law for ten years.

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Speaker 10: I want to get the cases right.

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Speaker 2: You know, conservatives are guilty of the bigotry of low expectations.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to Bill, mahb done it too. I've

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Speaker 2: praised him and played his clips when he's occasionally said

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Speaker 2: something sensible, something the right has been saying for years.

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Speaker 3: But at his core, he's a.

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Speaker 2: Delusional Democrat who has spoken of his dream of saying

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Speaker 2: an news and becoming president. Yeah, the California governor, that one.

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Speaker 3: I think. Fellow traveler Bill Burr.

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Speaker 2: Summed up mar nicely during their recent chat.

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Speaker 4: Also, you say is not smart, it's just sort of obscure.

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Speaker 4: It's not obscure.

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Speaker 1: Certain percentage of people some giant egg and egad, I'm

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Speaker 1: just I know you're not that smart.

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Speaker 2: And Greg Gottfeldt had the right idea about ma who

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Speaker 2: was on his show earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: That's the most important thing that's going on in this country.

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Speaker 1: He didn't concede the last election. He's not going to

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Speaker 1: concede this election.

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Speaker 7: You don't know that.

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Speaker 4: Everybody said, oh, you smoke too much pot.

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Speaker 1: Turn out I smoke just the right amount of there's

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Speaker 1: no right amount.

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Speaker 6: So doctor Drews, you're really good at diagnosing mental illness.

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Speaker 6: What is Bill's problem?

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Speaker 2: Maybe layoff the pot Bill, that might clear up the TDS.

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Speaker 2: And let's continue with left is losing it. Here we

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Speaker 2: have a biological man identifying as a woman using their

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Speaker 2: position as the Assistant Secretary for Health in the Biden administration.

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Speaker 3: To lecture us about how.

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Speaker 2: Global warming is disproportionately affecting black people.

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Speaker 6: Climate change is having a disproportionate effect on the physical

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Speaker 6: and mental health of black communities. Black Americans are more

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Speaker 6: likely than white Americans to live in areas and housing

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Speaker 6: that increase their susceptibility to climate related health issues, and

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Speaker 6: sixty five percent of Black Americans report feeling anxious about

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Speaker 6: climate changes impact.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the author of Fossil Future, Alex Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Alexa your response to that, I would argue climate change

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Speaker 2: policies do disproportionately impact poor people, not black people, poor people,

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Speaker 2: whatever color they are. Is that how you see it,

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Speaker 2: because I find it hard to understand how global warming

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Speaker 2: is impacting black people more than everybody else.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the truth is that, you know, what they're

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Speaker 9: calling global warming so bad weather. They're saying it's racist,

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Speaker 9: but it's actually classiest in the sense of if you're poor,

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Speaker 9: it's hard to deal with bad weather. That's why as

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Speaker 9: the world has gotten richer, we've become much much safer

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Speaker 9: from climate We have a ninety eight percent decline in

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Speaker 9: climate related disaster deaths over the last century. So obviously,

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Speaker 9: obviously the solution if you care about susceptibility to climate

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Speaker 9: is for everyone to get rich, even within the United States,

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Speaker 9: let alone the rest of the world, where most people

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Speaker 9: are incredibly poor, even compared to you know, the poorest

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Speaker 9: people in the United States. So on the one hand,

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Speaker 9: it's just the exact opposite prescription of what's needed. It's

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Speaker 9: just we need to become wealthier and then on top

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Speaker 9: of it, this person has the goal to say that

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Speaker 9: Blacks are suffering climate related anxiety. That's because you're catastrophizing climate.

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Speaker 9: Maybe the government should prescribe fossil future. That's the solution

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Speaker 9: of climate anxiety.

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Speaker 3: That is a very good prescription.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, now here's some good news. This week's shareholders at

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Speaker 2: oil giant Shell overwhelmingly rejected a climate change resolution filed

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Speaker 2: by green activists urging it to align its reduction targets

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Speaker 2: to the Paris Climate Agreement. Alex only eighteen percent of

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Speaker 2: shareholders back this proposal.

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Speaker 3: In March, we.

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Speaker 2: Saw Shell weaken its twenty thirty carbon reduction target. They

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Speaker 2: cited strong demand for gas. They're refocusing on more profitable

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Speaker 2: operations like oil and gas. Seems to be a win

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Speaker 2: for common sense, Alex.

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Speaker 9: I think this is a good it's a good development.

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Speaker 9: And contrast this to say, twenty twenty, when you know

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Speaker 9: we had a global pandemic, we had lockdowns that hurt

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Speaker 9: most the oil and gas industry, particularly oil because oil

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Speaker 9: is the basis of modern transportation.

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Speaker 4: And all these.

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Speaker 9: People saying I was wrong for saying that, you know,

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Speaker 9: we have a fossil future that we actually need more

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Speaker 9: oil going forward, and they're like, look, oil demand is low,

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Speaker 9: it's not good to invest in oil.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: Why am I bringing this up in this context because

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Speaker 9: the fact that oil stocks happened to be crashing because

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Speaker 9: of those circumstances allowed a bunch of opportunistic ESG types

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Speaker 9: to claim that disinvesting from oil was somehow a wise

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Speaker 9: investment thing, when in fact what happened is right after

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Speaker 9: that oil became one of the best performing sectors in

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Speaker 9: the world, has demand rebounded and then continued to increase

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Speaker 9: to record levels where we are now and we're still increasing.

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Speaker 9: So what's happened is all these do good or ESG

581
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Speaker 9: types who are thinking they would get rich being ESG

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Speaker 9: are realizing that they're getting poor being ESG and that

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Speaker 9: if they have SHELL or BP or all these other

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Speaker 9: virtue signalering companies who've claimed that they want to go

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Speaker 9: net zero, that they have to actually do that, it's

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Speaker 9: going to creater their stock. Sola glad that people are

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Speaker 9: waking up to financial reality and it's helping defang this

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Speaker 9: really insidious ESG movement because that not only hurts the

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Speaker 9: oil companies, it most of all hurts the oil consumers,

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Speaker 9: which is the world's eight billion people who need cheap,

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Speaker 9: reliable energy.

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Speaker 2: Well, how powerful is the ESG, well, the environmental, social

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Speaker 2: and governance lobby. They seem to control a great deal

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Speaker 2: of the money. Alex is the power wakening. With the

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Speaker 2: pandemic over and things getting back.

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Speaker 9: To normal, there are signs of weakness, but we definitely

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Speaker 9: cannot let up at all. I mean, you're seeing more

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Speaker 9: and more people stand up to it. It used to be

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Speaker 9: pretty lonely to stand up to it. Now there are

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Speaker 9: a lot more people saying that it's bad. And in

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Speaker 9: particular the stuff I'm most interested in, the environmental side,

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Speaker 9: the idea of rapidly eliminating fossil fuels, that that is

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Speaker 9: a global death sentence. You're increasingly having people wreckognize that

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Speaker 9: to some extent. But unfortunately, the ESG movement has totally

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Speaker 9: poisoned so many institutions and taken them over. And I'll

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Speaker 9: just give an example in the realm of AI, which

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Speaker 9: is a new huge source of demand in the United

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Speaker 9: States and around the world. A lot of these leading

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Speaker 9: AI users like Microsoft and Facebook have been promoting ESG

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Speaker 9: poison for years and that's led to the shutdown of

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Speaker 9: reliable power plants on our grid. This should sound familiar

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Speaker 9: to Australians and trying to replace them with unreliables and

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Speaker 9: now we don't have nearly enough electricity for AI. So

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Speaker 9: you're seeing these these institutions are not yet apologizing. I'll

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Speaker 9: think it's great when Microsoft and Google and Facebook apologize

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Speaker 9: for ruining our grid with ESG. Until then, I'm not complacent.

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Speaker 2: Well, our National Science Agency, the CSIRO, has published a

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Speaker 2: report that insists the powering our country with nuclear energy

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Speaker 2: is going to be far more expensive, nearly double the

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Speaker 2: cost of doing it with renewables. Sixteen billion dollars and

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Speaker 2: sixteen years is what it will apparently take to build

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Speaker 2: a large scale nuclear reactor. Is this true, Alex or

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Speaker 2: is this just another sign of the CSIRO being captured

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Speaker 2: by the green ideology.

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Speaker 9: I want to draw people's attention to a weird kind

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Speaker 9: of schizophrenia that you have going on here which you

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Speaker 9: often see, which is there's a total can't do attitude

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Speaker 9: with fossil fuels and in particular nuclear So they act like, oh,

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Speaker 9: it has to be incredibly expensive, even though say South

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Speaker 9: Korea is able to do it cheaply. The United States

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Speaker 9: used to be able to do cheaply before we ruined

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Speaker 9: it with bad regulations. So they have a total can't

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Speaker 9: do attitude with regard to nuclear, but with unreliable solar

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Speaker 9: and wind, which have never powered any country anywhere without

635
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Speaker 9: totally parasiting unreliable fossil fuels in nuclear, they have this

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Speaker 9: infinite unicorn fantasy can do attitude. And so one of

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Speaker 9: the fallacies here is they're comparing unreliable power to reliable power.

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Speaker 9: So that's you know, that's like comparing rotten oranges to apple.

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Speaker 9: So they're just they're not comparisons. What you need to

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Speaker 9: happen is if you want to use solar and win

641
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 9: the so called renewables, those companies should figure out how

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Speaker 9: to make them actually supply reliable electricity, provide the batteries themselves.

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Speaker 9: Then what they see is is just prohibitively expensive. But

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Speaker 9: they're just comparing the cost of unreliable to reliable. So

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Speaker 9: that's that's intellectually non serious.

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Speaker 2: It is intellectually dishonest.

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Speaker 3: They're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Now Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi has unveiled a five hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars strategy aimed at turning Australia into

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Speaker 2: a world leading battery manufacturer. This is another step we

651
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Speaker 2: are told in firming up renewables and supporting the net

652
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Speaker 2: zero transition. But can batteries ever provide that base load

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Speaker 2: power that a first world nation like Australia.

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Speaker 9: Needs, You know, ever is a long time, but you know,

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Speaker 9: with the technology we currently have there, they're nowhere near closed.

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Speaker 9: So not even the best form of storage, what's called

657
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Speaker 9: pump storage, tends to be much cheaper. We just don't

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Speaker 9: have any form of man made storage right now that

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Speaker 9: can accommodate the unreliability of solar and wind. So what

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Speaker 9: happens is you build these battery facilities, and what happens

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Speaker 9: is they'll say, oh, we have this many megawatts of

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Speaker 9: batteries and isn't that going to be great? But a

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Speaker 9: mega waut of batteries is not the same as a

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Speaker 9: megawat of natural gas because the megaat of batteries usually

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Speaker 9: lasts four hours maximum. So if it only lasts four hours,

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Speaker 9: you need a lot more than four hours worth to

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Speaker 9: be able to handle highs and lows of the sun

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Speaker 9: and the wind over you know, days, let alone, let

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Speaker 9: alone weeks. So it's just this fake. It's just this

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Speaker 9: fake stuff being added on to pretend that solar and

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Speaker 9: wind are being reliable. But they're not reliable unless they

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Speaker 9: can truly be self sufficient without parasiting on the other stuff.

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Speaker 9: So again, I say Australian government, anyone who thinks they

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Speaker 9: can make it work, Have somebody figure out how to

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Speaker 9: make a solution just using solar winded batteries. See how

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Speaker 9: much that cost to provide reliable electricity with the same

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Speaker 9: reliability of as coler natural gas or nuclear. You'll be

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Speaker 9: in for a rude awakening. But go ahead and try.

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Speaker 9: But don't just steal everyone's money and restrict fossil fuels

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Speaker 9: and promise the best because there's no evidence it will

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Speaker 9: work at all.

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Speaker 2: And what about the elements that go into making these

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Speaker 2: giant batteries, where they come from, the supply chain and

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Speaker 2: the reliance on China. Is that something that isn't given

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Speaker 2: due consideration Alex.

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Speaker 9: Well, in general, there's just the you know, the the

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Speaker 9: negatives are challenges of solar and wind are never given

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Speaker 9: due consideration. And then the negatives are challenges of fossil

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Speaker 9: fuels are amplified, you know, one hundred times and just

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Speaker 9: exaggerated beyond all proportions, so there's definitely this bias. I

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Speaker 9: don't think it means fundamentally you can't produce batteries at

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Speaker 9: a much larger scale, but if you look at near term,

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Speaker 9: what people are proposing with these different net zero plans

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Speaker 9: is just a totally unprecedented increase in mining in a

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Speaker 9: very anti mining global environment, particularly in the Western countries

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Speaker 9: that used to be free but now have many, many

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Speaker 9: restrictions on mining. And this is a basic contradiction of

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Speaker 9: the green movement, which says that to achieve quote green energy,

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Speaker 9: we need to mind the world more than we ever have,

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Speaker 9: which the green movement is going to oppose. And I

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Speaker 9: think this confirms my thesis in Fossil Future, and people

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Speaker 9: can learn more about this at Energy talkingpoints dot com

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Speaker 9: that the green movement is really an anti energy movement.

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Speaker 9: It pretends to support energy, but it really just hates

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Speaker 9: human impact on Earth. And if you hate human impact,

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Speaker 9: you hate energy, because energy allows us to impact the

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Speaker 9: Earth to make our lives better.

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Speaker 2: Alex Epstein, thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Rita still to come.

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Speaker 2: Ben Affleck Week goes from bad to worse as his

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Speaker 2: cringeworthy attempt at comedy and his striking marriage are scrutinized

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Speaker 2: and inside the Elvis Presley estate fight.

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Speaker 15: Who's going to own Graceland?

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Paney show. Ben Afflecks week has

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Speaker 2: gone from bad to worse. Not only is the actor's

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Speaker 2: marriage the singer Jennifer Lopez reportedly on the Rocks despite

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Speaker 2: the recent release of her documentary The Greatest Love Story

718
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Speaker 2: Never Told, but his cringeworthy appearance on the Netflix roast

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Speaker 2: of Tom Brady is being pulled apart by the star

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Speaker 2: of the night, Niki Glazer. Here is Affleck bombing on

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Speaker 2: the roast stage.

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Speaker 4: You sitting there.

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Speaker 16: Hiding behind your keyboard, spewing out all this toxic about

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Speaker 16: people you'd be afraid to come up to. You saw

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Speaker 16: him at the cart wash, you know, well, went out

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Speaker 16: there and did something.

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Speaker 7: Who were successful or.

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Speaker 16: Even if another player ended up catching the football on

729
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Speaker 16: his helmet, maybe they failed. But fans have your back. Okay,

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Speaker 16: you guys out there talking all right behind your keyboard.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make you a fan. That makes you up.

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Speaker 2: Oh and here is Nicki Gleiser actually being funny?

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Speaker 7: You really are.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you're the best to ever play for too long.

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Speaker 17: I mean you were tired, then you came back, and then.

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Speaker 7: You were tired again. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 17: It's hard to walk away from something that's not your

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Speaker 17: pregnant girlfriend.

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Speaker 7: It's tough.

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Speaker 17: Hey, to be fair, he didn't know she was pregnant.

741
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Speaker 3: He just thought she was getting fat and Tom hates fat.

742
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Speaker 17: I mean, do you guys know about his diet program.

743
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 17: It is so strict, but if you follow it exactly

744
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Speaker 17: as he does, you two can lose your family.

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Speaker 2: Nicki says part of the reason why Benethlet bombed on

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Speaker 2: the Knot it was because of his poor attitude.

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Speaker 17: Because I don't really I don't like to watch people bomb.

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Speaker 7: He didn't prepare.

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Speaker 17: He's someone who's famous enough that thinks like this is

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Speaker 17: probably beneath them to do this, and so I'm just

751
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Speaker 17: going to do a favorite. It's not going to be

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Speaker 17: that big of a deal.

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Speaker 2: Doining me now is Entertainment and Royal reporter Kinsey Schofield.

754
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Speaker 3: Is he really that arrogant? Kinsey?

755
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Speaker 2: Is he just going to show up to this massive

756
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Speaker 2: roast of our greatest of.

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Speaker 3: All to time? Tom Brady?

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Speaker 2: He was definitely I reckon the low light of the

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Speaker 2: whole three hour affair.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, he's best friends with Jimmy Kimmel. Why

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Speaker 14: couldn't he have consulted Jimmy or some of his writers

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Speaker 14: to provide him with something legitimately funny, legitimately good. He

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Speaker 14: really just looked bitter and kind of unhinged throughout that

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Speaker 14: Tom Brady's roast. So I agree, like, clearly something is

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Speaker 14: going on in his personal life, and he seems like

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Speaker 14: he isn't entitled in you know, two miles Child to

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Speaker 14: ask for help. I don't know. It wasn't funny. It

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Speaker 14: just kind of seemed very resentful.

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Speaker 2: And it has been called the greatest roast of all time.

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Speaker 2: And there was just so much champagne comedy throughout, and

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Speaker 2: that just stood out because You're right, it was just

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Speaker 2: angry and bitter. It wasn't even he was trying to

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Speaker 2: be funny and failing. It just was sort of a

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Speaker 2: mad rant. Now I've got to ask you about this

775
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Speaker 2: Cate Blanchette dress. The internet is divided about what it

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Speaker 2: all means something that's her dress is referencing the Palestinian

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Speaker 2: flag at Carnes. Some say the colors of white, black

778
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Speaker 2: and green with the red of the CANSA red carpet

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00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: makes a deliberate political statement, but when you look at

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Speaker 2: the dress up plost, the white looks more like a

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Speaker 2: soft pink. It's a Jean Paul golt original designed. Are

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Speaker 2: people just desperate to see politics in everything? Or was

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Speaker 2: she trying to make a subtle statement here?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm one hundred percent with you.

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Speaker 14: Blanchette was one of the original actors who signed the

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Speaker 14: Artist for Ceasefire open letter to President Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was.

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Speaker 14: Calling for an end to the war. But if you

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Speaker 14: look at that gown that photo you just showed, that's

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Speaker 14: a blush pink. I do think that the flag symbolism

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00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 14: is a bit of a stretch, and people with an

792
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Speaker 14: agenda are perpetuating that narrative. You know, I challenge them

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Speaker 14: to try to wear that dress in Gaza though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well she is very political.

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Speaker 2: She's she's made all sorts of statements about global warming

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Speaker 2: and other issues. When you mentioned signing that letter, so

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason people are looking

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Speaker 2: for some deeper meaning. But my take of it is

799
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Speaker 2: it's just address move on people now. Actress scarlets Johansson

800
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: has expressed her shock and anger at a new feature

801
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: from the AI program chat GPT that used a voice

802
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Speaker 2: she described as eerily similar to hers, so similar that

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Speaker 2: friends and family can't tell the difference.

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Speaker 3: She revealed she'd previously.

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Speaker 2: Rejected an offer from the tech company to license her

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Speaker 2: voice for the product. So did they just go ahead

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Speaker 2: and create her voice without her consent?

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Speaker 3: Cancie?

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Speaker 14: You know, it is strange because when they approached her

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Speaker 14: to do this, it was in the middle of the

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Speaker 14: actor's strike and one of the biggest actors and writers

812
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Speaker 14: strike demands was that they navigate the world of AI

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Speaker 14: more carefully because no one wants to get replaced. Had

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Speaker 14: she agreed to do this, she would have been seen

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Speaker 14: as a trader in Hollywood. So yeah, she rejected the offer,

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Speaker 14: And it does seem like Chad GPT said, Okay, well,

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Speaker 14: we're just going to go find somebody that sounds just

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Speaker 14: like you, and they argue that it's not her and

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Speaker 14: it's not supposed to sound like her, But they sure

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Speaker 14: did rep Sky, who sounds just like Scarlet off the

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Speaker 14: internet as quickly as she entered. And so I think

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Speaker 14: that that was almost an admission of guilt.

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Speaker 3: Right there. That sky disappeared so quickly.

824
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Speaker 2: Now Elvis Presley's family are fighting hard to keep his

825
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Speaker 2: iconic mansion, Graceland, off the real estate market. Its sale

826
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Speaker 2: was scheduled for I think today or tomorrow. His granddaughter,

827
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Speaker 2: actress Riley Keo, obtained a temporary restraining order against the

828
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Speaker 2: sale of the Memphis property by Nozani Investments, who claimed

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Speaker 2: Lisa Mary Presley, Riley's mum and Elvis's daughter, had borrowed

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Speaker 2: a three point eight million from the company and used

831
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Speaker 2: Graceland as security for the loan. Riley claims her mom

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Speaker 2: never brought borrow that money and never gave them.

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Speaker 3: A deed of trust. Tell me more about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that they could be trying to sell it

835
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Speaker 2: or a relatively small debt or three point eight million.

836
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Speaker 2: I was at Graceland earlier this year, and my gosh,

837
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Speaker 2: it is a money making enterprise.

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Speaker 3: The tours are fool, they're expensive.

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Speaker 2: There's just thousands there daily. It seems odd that they

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Speaker 2: would have any sort of money issues.

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Speaker 14: Well, obviously you're more impressed with it than Prince Harry

842
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 14: was who complained about it in Spare. But yeah, this

843
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 14: attempt to foreclose on Graceland is about to become the

844
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Speaker 14: subject of multiple criminal investigations, including interest from the FBI.

845
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Speaker 14: The foreclosure was triggered by an alleged unpaid three point

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Speaker 14: eight million dollar debt Lisa Marie never paid, using Graceland

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Speaker 14: as collateral. But like you said, Riley said that this

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Speaker 14: never happened, and people that have had access to this

849
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Speaker 14: paperwork say it looks very suspicious. The judge has put

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Speaker 14: the temporary halt on the foreclosure, but this investigation is

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Speaker 14: keating up, and people at Graceland are the finger at

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Speaker 14: a very specific person you know in that investment company

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Speaker 14: you mentioned. They've already backed out and they said that

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Speaker 14: they won't they won't continue to pursue it. If somebody

855
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Speaker 14: really owes you that kind of money, do you so

856
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Speaker 14: easily back out? So I think that this story has

857
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 14: only just begun and I can't wait to see where

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00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 14: it goes. It seems like somebody is doing something, you know,

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Speaker 14: something sinister.

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Speaker 2: Now, what did Prince Harry say about Gweisland in spam?

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Speaker 3: I missed that little Pasha. He wasn't impressed.

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Speaker 14: He was not impressed. He said he could not believe

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Speaker 14: how Dungee Engross that he made fun of the carpets,

864
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Speaker 14: and he was like, I can't believe that Americans think

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Speaker 14: a quote unquote king lived here like Graceland was beneath him.

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Speaker 14: It's like, Harry, what have you done? Elvis built? That

867
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Speaker 14: was Elvis's shrine. He built that from hard work. He

868
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Speaker 14: was a nobody and he made something of himself and

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Speaker 14: that was like his sanctuary. And what, Harry, what have

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Speaker 14: you done?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever it is, You're so right. Elvis was

873
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 2: a self made man. He came from it was dirt poor,

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Speaker 2: and if he actually bothered to take note of some

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Speaker 2: of the memorabilia there, he would have seen just how

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Speaker 2: poor the Presley family were, and how Elvis moved his

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Speaker 2: own mother into that property to give her the sort

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Speaker 2: of lifestyle that she never had as he was growing up.

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Speaker 3: Harry, really, now we've run out of time.

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Speaker 2: Next week we're going to have to get to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of what is happening with Queen Mary and King

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Speaker 2: Frederick of Denmark, because there's body language experts coming out

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Speaker 2: saying that those two are not on good terms. Kinsy Schofield,

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Speaker 2: thank you for your time. That's it from me, up

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Speaker 2: Next is Newsnight. Don't forget lefties losing it nine point

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Speaker 2: thirty Tomorrow Night

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Speaker 15: Eight