1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approche production. 2 00:00:15,921 --> 00:00:20,281 Speaker 2: So so tell me, then you've met these people. Yeah 3 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:24,481 Speaker 2: you have, you know you've Your life's about to change dramatically. 4 00:00:25,601 --> 00:00:28,881 Speaker 2: Tell me how it started in in a in a 5 00:00:29,041 --> 00:00:29,321 Speaker 2: in a. 6 00:00:29,281 --> 00:00:33,721 Speaker 3: Nutshell, Well, long story short, I met basically, they are 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,561 Speaker 3: these two friends of mine who are local Imorti nationals, 8 00:00:36,921 --> 00:00:40,601 Speaker 3: and they they they used they were big, you know, 9 00:00:40,721 --> 00:00:42,321 Speaker 3: fans of the music, and they used to come a 10 00:00:42,361 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: lot to my nights often and stuff. And just one 11 00:00:45,161 --> 00:00:47,121 Speaker 3: day they said, you know, we've got an after party here, 12 00:00:47,241 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: do you mind moving coming across and continuing the night. 13 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,121 Speaker 3: I said, sure, you know I'm getting paid for this, 14 00:00:53,241 --> 00:00:56,681 Speaker 3: so and doing. I'll never forget this this one night. 15 00:00:57,801 --> 00:00:58,601 Speaker 1: This is where all. 16 00:00:58,521 --> 00:01:02,441 Speaker 3: Really un This is where all kicked off. They introduced 17 00:01:02,481 --> 00:01:06,401 Speaker 3: me to this guy who ended up being my case partner, 18 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:11,841 Speaker 3: and he was a electrical import exporter, so he used 19 00:01:11,881 --> 00:01:15,601 Speaker 3: to import export electrical goods from China under his father's 20 00:01:15,601 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: business trade license. So also, it's there the electric shop 21 00:01:18,241 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: that you name it, whatever's electrical, And he. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,641 Speaker 1: Told me, he sat me down. 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Then he just chucks out two bags of shiny like 24 00:01:27,081 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: powder on the chucks it on the table and he 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,161 Speaker 3: goes he said he said, you know what this is. 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:38,121 Speaker 3: I said, well, presuming his drugs. He goes, yeah, it's fun, 27 00:01:38,241 --> 00:01:41,401 Speaker 3: he goes. He said that one is cocaine. Then he 28 00:01:41,441 --> 00:01:44,121 Speaker 3: said that one's crystal meth. He said, I do. He 29 00:01:44,161 --> 00:01:48,161 Speaker 3: said ideal. I import both and he said I want 30 00:01:48,161 --> 00:01:51,001 Speaker 3: to basically expand, and he said, could you help me 31 00:01:51,081 --> 00:01:53,361 Speaker 3: like get He said, You're very popular. He said, people 32 00:01:53,361 --> 00:01:55,641 Speaker 3: come to you trust you, and you've got the perfect 33 00:01:55,641 --> 00:01:58,041 Speaker 3: setting because you know, people like your personality and your 34 00:01:58,081 --> 00:02:00,721 Speaker 3: DJ said they come to and they're drinking. So it's 35 00:02:00,921 --> 00:02:02,961 Speaker 3: you know, he said, one plus one. I said, I 36 00:02:02,961 --> 00:02:04,441 Speaker 3: think we can make something work. 37 00:02:04,281 --> 00:02:08,521 Speaker 1: You know work, So I said, I said, fuck. You know. 38 00:02:09,041 --> 00:02:11,921 Speaker 3: You know, at this point, I I wasn't much of 39 00:02:11,921 --> 00:02:15,041 Speaker 3: a I hadn't really dabbled in drugs much really like 40 00:02:15,121 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: you know you, except your odd bit here and there. 41 00:02:17,161 --> 00:02:19,441 Speaker 3: So I thought to myself, I said, I said, okay, 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: I said this could In the back of my mind, 43 00:02:21,281 --> 00:02:23,401 Speaker 3: I thought this could be very good or very bad 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: and being thing seventeen and you know, and just crazy. 45 00:02:28,721 --> 00:02:33,121 Speaker 1: I said, do you know what man? I told him. 46 00:02:33,161 --> 00:02:35,441 Speaker 3: I thought, look, I said, here's my number. Let me 47 00:02:35,481 --> 00:02:38,601 Speaker 3: ever think about this and get back to me. And 48 00:02:39,001 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: obviously the devil just starts playing in your head. 49 00:02:41,841 --> 00:02:43,641 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And and this is what. 50 00:02:43,641 --> 00:02:46,161 Speaker 3: People, a lot of people think, Like a lot of 51 00:02:46,161 --> 00:02:48,161 Speaker 3: people in the plast three podcasts I've done and stuff 52 00:02:48,161 --> 00:02:50,081 Speaker 3: I don't know, they think that I'm expecting a clap 53 00:02:50,281 --> 00:02:52,241 Speaker 3: or a pat on the shoulder or something, or some sympathy. 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,921 Speaker 3: It's not like that at all. I'm very aware of 55 00:02:54,921 --> 00:02:57,081 Speaker 3: my mistakes. I'm very aware of what I've done and 56 00:02:57,161 --> 00:02:59,201 Speaker 3: what I haven't done. And at the end of the day, 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,121 Speaker 3: you know, like this is me, like come and telling 58 00:03:01,161 --> 00:03:05,321 Speaker 3: my story, my perspective, what happened to me, and you know, 59 00:03:05,441 --> 00:03:06,161 Speaker 3: and this is like. 60 00:03:06,201 --> 00:03:07,201 Speaker 1: I've had my own redempt. 61 00:03:07,201 --> 00:03:09,001 Speaker 3: Sure, I've paid the price, you know for what I've done, 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,881 Speaker 3: so even though it was blown out of proportion and 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,481 Speaker 3: used against me, but still like I ended up, you know, 64 00:03:15,481 --> 00:03:18,121 Speaker 3: I did my time. And if anything, now I'm just 65 00:03:18,121 --> 00:03:20,881 Speaker 3: trying to basically do a bit of awareness, you know, 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,361 Speaker 3: and just warn young people from you know, the hedonistic 67 00:03:23,401 --> 00:03:26,001 Speaker 3: hole that life throws it you, especially at a young 68 00:03:26,041 --> 00:03:28,201 Speaker 3: age like this, with you know, especially this day and age, 69 00:03:28,201 --> 00:03:31,001 Speaker 3: with social media and everything and everything being so open 70 00:03:31,081 --> 00:03:36,361 Speaker 3: and broad, people think that I'm seeking something out of 71 00:03:36,361 --> 00:03:37,481 Speaker 3: this when in reality you're not. 72 00:03:37,521 --> 00:03:38,881 Speaker 1: Really you're not at all and I'm not. 73 00:03:39,401 --> 00:03:42,281 Speaker 3: And people think I'd like to bash Dubai or go 74 00:03:42,721 --> 00:03:46,521 Speaker 3: not at all that. Once again, they did their side 75 00:03:46,561 --> 00:03:50,041 Speaker 3: of things, and they did their you know, rule, they 76 00:03:50,041 --> 00:03:52,241 Speaker 3: did their procedures and you know, I went through it, 77 00:03:52,281 --> 00:03:54,841 Speaker 3: and you know what's what's done is done so because 78 00:03:54,841 --> 00:03:56,481 Speaker 3: people like to get smart in the comments, you know 79 00:03:56,521 --> 00:03:59,961 Speaker 3: what I mean, No one told you to shove drugs 80 00:04:00,001 --> 00:04:00,641 Speaker 3: up your ass of. 81 00:04:02,361 --> 00:04:03,201 Speaker 1: Some worry like that. 82 00:04:03,241 --> 00:04:07,281 Speaker 2: I copy it, don't sorry, it's like I from what 83 00:04:07,361 --> 00:04:08,561 Speaker 2: I did. I don't know if you know what I 84 00:04:08,601 --> 00:04:09,961 Speaker 2: used to do. But the thing is they said you 85 00:04:10,001 --> 00:04:12,401 Speaker 2: were never there, you didn't do that. But the thing is, 86 00:04:12,481 --> 00:04:15,081 Speaker 2: you know I was there. But then it's funny how 87 00:04:15,601 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: people say that to me. And then I questioned myself 88 00:04:18,681 --> 00:04:20,681 Speaker 2: and go, oh did I do it? 89 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:21,961 Speaker 1: Are they right? Ship? 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:22,921 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 91 00:04:23,001 --> 00:04:25,601 Speaker 2: If it plays yeah, it plays you with your head 92 00:04:25,601 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: a lot. 93 00:04:25,921 --> 00:04:26,361 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 94 00:04:26,401 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean, so I'm I'm with you, bro, don't like 95 00:04:29,361 --> 00:04:31,521 Speaker 2: you just gotta fucking take him a pictureself. 96 00:04:31,041 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly, absolutely, So from there on, I I just 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,921 Speaker 3: got absolutely dragged into it. 98 00:04:38,961 --> 00:04:39,161 Speaker 1: Mate. 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,041 Speaker 3: He started meeting me every other day. He'd he'd say, right, 100 00:04:45,961 --> 00:04:47,961 Speaker 3: anyone that contacts to you, just send them my way. 101 00:04:48,041 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: So we had like a little agreement. 102 00:04:49,401 --> 00:04:51,361 Speaker 3: He would bring in his I didn't get involved in 103 00:04:51,401 --> 00:04:53,921 Speaker 3: anything to do with the shipments or anything like that. 104 00:04:54,081 --> 00:04:56,281 Speaker 3: I left it all down to him, and he was, 105 00:04:56,401 --> 00:04:58,001 Speaker 3: you know, doing this thing, and he would just call 106 00:04:58,041 --> 00:05:00,041 Speaker 3: me up and say, right, it's all here, blah blah, 107 00:05:00,081 --> 00:05:02,681 Speaker 3: And then I was kind of it turned out to 108 00:05:02,721 --> 00:05:04,641 Speaker 3: be that I was just like a mediator, really in 109 00:05:04,681 --> 00:05:05,001 Speaker 3: the middle. 110 00:05:05,681 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: And the way I saw. 111 00:05:06,921 --> 00:05:08,081 Speaker 2: You were that you were that you were the man 112 00:05:08,121 --> 00:05:09,841 Speaker 2: to You were the man to go to if they 113 00:05:09,921 --> 00:05:11,641 Speaker 2: and then you'd point him in the direction of where 114 00:05:11,641 --> 00:05:12,001 Speaker 2: to go. 115 00:05:12,041 --> 00:05:13,681 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly yes. 116 00:05:13,761 --> 00:05:16,801 Speaker 3: And And the thing is, at the time, Dubai had 117 00:05:17,241 --> 00:05:18,721 Speaker 3: the Z like zero. 118 00:05:20,641 --> 00:05:23,361 Speaker 1: You wouldn't hear of cocaine or these you know, these. 119 00:05:23,161 --> 00:05:27,281 Speaker 3: Class a's, Like there was the average, like the average 120 00:05:27,641 --> 00:05:29,641 Speaker 3: you know, the person there would probably smoke a bit 121 00:05:29,641 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: of weed or you know, a few pills, but that 122 00:05:32,561 --> 00:05:36,161 Speaker 3: was it. There was no hardcore you know, coke and 123 00:05:36,201 --> 00:05:38,841 Speaker 3: Class a's and none of that. And then suddenly boom, 124 00:05:38,961 --> 00:05:42,521 Speaker 3: like this kid shows out and he's he's and he's 125 00:05:42,561 --> 00:05:44,921 Speaker 3: diverting all these people to some guy from New Zealand 126 00:05:44,961 --> 00:05:47,601 Speaker 3: who was who's living in Dubai, who was important this 127 00:05:47,641 --> 00:05:51,801 Speaker 3: ship from China. So that went on. That went on 128 00:05:51,841 --> 00:05:55,321 Speaker 3: for a while, and obviously I got to care more 129 00:05:55,361 --> 00:05:57,081 Speaker 3: and more people. You know, people in this scene who 130 00:05:57,081 --> 00:05:58,401 Speaker 3: come and ask you for this thing in the first 131 00:05:58,401 --> 00:06:01,481 Speaker 3: place usually are you know, I've already dabbled or so 132 00:06:01,561 --> 00:06:03,601 Speaker 3: I started making more connections and they'll tell me, oh, 133 00:06:03,681 --> 00:06:04,841 Speaker 3: you know, you need to meet so and. 134 00:06:04,761 --> 00:06:07,881 Speaker 1: So he's got plug for this and that. And next thing, 135 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I know. 136 00:06:08,721 --> 00:06:12,121 Speaker 3: Fucking enough turned into like a like a court, like 137 00:06:12,361 --> 00:06:16,041 Speaker 3: just a diverting call center basically and showing where to 138 00:06:16,081 --> 00:06:19,121 Speaker 3: go to get and there was in a way it 139 00:06:19,201 --> 00:06:21,241 Speaker 3: showed that people trusted me because. 140 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: You're the tourist guide for cocaine. 141 00:06:24,201 --> 00:06:30,001 Speaker 3: I turned into like Google Maps of cocaine. Not good, 142 00:06:30,241 --> 00:06:34,121 Speaker 3: not good. But and that went on for a while, 143 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:40,081 Speaker 3: and then one day I got a phone call. Basically 144 00:06:40,121 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: a few people got caught that were kind of clid 145 00:06:42,761 --> 00:06:45,961 Speaker 3: of close style group, our friend group, and so we thought, right, 146 00:06:46,041 --> 00:06:48,001 Speaker 3: you know, we need to take things a bit easy now. 147 00:06:49,361 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Things are getting hot, you know, And. 148 00:06:51,521 --> 00:06:53,601 Speaker 3: He he said, right, you know, not take it down 149 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:58,241 Speaker 3: the notch, just you know, stay stay alert. And the 150 00:06:58,281 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: weird thing is, ever since that day that that person 151 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:03,841 Speaker 3: got caught, we all started getting phone calls from random people, 152 00:07:04,641 --> 00:07:08,401 Speaker 3: random hours, asking for strange things. And we found out 153 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,361 Speaker 3: that basically how it works in debas. So if it 154 00:07:12,401 --> 00:07:16,401 Speaker 3: wasn't for snitches and informants, the prisons they would be empty. 155 00:07:16,681 --> 00:07:20,481 Speaker 3: Like ninety five percent of all the cases, I promise 156 00:07:20,561 --> 00:07:23,721 Speaker 3: you are because of a secret informant or something. You know, 157 00:07:23,721 --> 00:07:27,161 Speaker 3: I undercover this that it's not from it's not from 158 00:07:27,201 --> 00:07:28,481 Speaker 3: their genius police work. 159 00:07:28,561 --> 00:07:30,001 Speaker 1: It's not from their do you know what I mean. 160 00:07:31,481 --> 00:07:34,161 Speaker 3: They've caught someone and they've told him, look, we'll let 161 00:07:34,241 --> 00:07:37,001 Speaker 3: you go bring us a bigger fish kind of a thing, 162 00:07:37,041 --> 00:07:40,361 Speaker 3: and so forth. So a few people got caught, and 163 00:07:40,681 --> 00:07:43,801 Speaker 3: obviously they've righted out left, right and center everyone that 164 00:07:43,921 --> 00:07:48,001 Speaker 3: was using that was selling those, and things start getting 165 00:07:48,081 --> 00:07:51,121 Speaker 3: very hot, and you know, and start getting strange phone calls. 166 00:07:51,321 --> 00:07:53,401 Speaker 3: And I knew what was going on, so I thought, right, 167 00:07:53,561 --> 00:07:55,001 Speaker 3: I need to take a chill pill, you know, and 168 00:07:55,401 --> 00:07:57,761 Speaker 3: calm down the bit. By this, I was like eighteen 169 00:07:57,841 --> 00:07:59,401 Speaker 3: and a half. It was like a year and a 170 00:07:59,401 --> 00:08:07,241 Speaker 3: bit in and just turning nineteen and. 171 00:08:05,121 --> 00:08:09,241 Speaker 2: One at this time, and no one even flinched what 172 00:08:09,281 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: you were doing. 173 00:08:10,401 --> 00:08:15,121 Speaker 1: No, not because do you know, not one bit because. 174 00:08:16,441 --> 00:08:19,401 Speaker 2: No mates or nothing with flinching, like like, surely you 175 00:08:19,441 --> 00:08:21,561 Speaker 2: were getting a good fucking coin for what you were doing. 176 00:08:22,041 --> 00:08:24,521 Speaker 2: And yeah, either you weren't showing it and you were 177 00:08:24,561 --> 00:08:27,121 Speaker 2: just putting that aside or you you're like, you know, 178 00:08:27,241 --> 00:08:29,921 Speaker 2: this is how a lot of people get to show it. 179 00:08:30,121 --> 00:08:33,041 Speaker 3: Do you know when you spend when you spend around, 180 00:08:33,321 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: so the people around you, when you spend like crazy 181 00:08:37,001 --> 00:08:40,201 Speaker 3: on them and they just tend to turn, you know, 182 00:08:40,281 --> 00:08:42,241 Speaker 3: turn the other way, then they don't know what's going on. 183 00:08:42,601 --> 00:08:45,001 Speaker 3: So my mate, I'll never forget. He came to me 184 00:08:45,041 --> 00:08:46,481 Speaker 3: one day and he said, do you know I went 185 00:08:46,521 --> 00:08:49,681 Speaker 3: to this dog breeder today and I saw these three pitbulls. 186 00:08:49,881 --> 00:08:51,921 Speaker 3: They're really really nice with the five grand a pop 187 00:08:52,001 --> 00:08:55,281 Speaker 3: and I said, here you go. He's like, I was there, 188 00:08:55,321 --> 00:08:57,801 Speaker 3: you go by too? I did you go by too? 189 00:08:58,241 --> 00:08:59,881 Speaker 3: And he's just looking at me, like ten grand in 190 00:08:59,881 --> 00:09:01,481 Speaker 3: front of him. I was like, yeah, bye too. 191 00:09:02,721 --> 00:09:03,401 Speaker 1: Just on the festival. 192 00:09:03,441 --> 00:09:04,881 Speaker 2: DJ DJ makes going. 193 00:09:04,721 --> 00:09:07,881 Speaker 3: Well, So when when you're paying when you like, when 194 00:09:08,001 --> 00:09:10,361 Speaker 3: when you're taking care of those around you, and you're 195 00:09:10,361 --> 00:09:13,521 Speaker 3: going out every day and everyone's bills are paid. 196 00:09:13,961 --> 00:09:15,441 Speaker 1: No one asks, no one. 197 00:09:15,441 --> 00:09:17,801 Speaker 3: And plus in the first place, it's a very flashy country, 198 00:09:17,801 --> 00:09:20,561 Speaker 3: don't forget. So it's normal when it's eighteen year old's 199 00:09:20,641 --> 00:09:22,761 Speaker 3: driving around in a Porsche or Yeah. I know. 200 00:09:22,881 --> 00:09:25,361 Speaker 2: But but if you were my mate and all of 201 00:09:25,401 --> 00:09:28,401 Speaker 2: a sudden you're flashing cash around, I'd be going to 202 00:09:28,441 --> 00:09:30,441 Speaker 2: one of our other mates and going where the fuck 203 00:09:30,561 --> 00:09:31,601 Speaker 2: is he getting the money from? 204 00:09:31,961 --> 00:09:34,121 Speaker 1: Like, do you give me five grand to get a 205 00:09:34,121 --> 00:09:35,641 Speaker 1: fucking dog? That's what. 206 00:09:37,641 --> 00:09:41,601 Speaker 3: My closest one's new. Oh okay, yeah, my close My 207 00:09:41,761 --> 00:09:45,161 Speaker 3: closest one's new. My closest one is new. And they 208 00:09:45,681 --> 00:09:47,801 Speaker 3: and they, to be honest, I'll be honest. 209 00:09:47,841 --> 00:09:48,241 Speaker 1: They they. 210 00:09:48,321 --> 00:09:51,641 Speaker 3: At the time, I thought these guys are my ride 211 00:09:51,641 --> 00:09:53,761 Speaker 3: and die. It's all good, do you know what I mean? 212 00:09:54,121 --> 00:09:55,041 Speaker 1: It's it's not. 213 00:09:55,281 --> 00:09:58,001 Speaker 3: You know, they're always they're here for me, so in return, 214 00:09:58,081 --> 00:09:59,361 Speaker 3: you know, I'm here for them, and I always took 215 00:09:59,401 --> 00:10:01,561 Speaker 3: care of them financially in the aspect, so I thought 216 00:10:01,561 --> 00:10:04,081 Speaker 3: everything was cozy. I didn't know that, you know, roll 217 00:10:04,121 --> 00:10:06,201 Speaker 3: down a few months when I'm in a two by 218 00:10:06,281 --> 00:10:06,681 Speaker 3: four cell. 219 00:10:06,761 --> 00:10:08,121 Speaker 1: No one's going to be picking up my calls. No 220 00:10:08,161 --> 00:10:09,201 Speaker 1: one's going to be giving a ship. 221 00:10:09,681 --> 00:10:12,401 Speaker 2: That's that's common, bro, that's very common. No one wants 222 00:10:12,441 --> 00:10:14,361 Speaker 2: to all that highs go down to lows. 223 00:10:14,441 --> 00:10:15,281 Speaker 1: They fuck you off. 224 00:10:15,441 --> 00:10:18,241 Speaker 3: When that dopamine crashes and there's no more you are 225 00:10:18,281 --> 00:10:21,081 Speaker 3: going around, it's gone. 226 00:10:21,481 --> 00:10:22,921 Speaker 1: That's it, gone with the winds. 227 00:10:25,441 --> 00:10:27,561 Speaker 2: I want to listen to the episode in four click 228 00:10:27,601 --> 00:10:28,521 Speaker 2: the link in the description. 229 00:10:30,321 --> 00:10:39,321 Speaker 1: H m hm