WEBVTT - The Bolt Report | 22 October 0:00:15.610 --> 0:00:18.509 Tonight, the Prime Minister tells another lie about the dirt 0:00:18.530 --> 0:00:21.270 sheet that his office put out about Helen Haynes, plus 0:00:21.329 --> 0:00:26.790 the case of..... a case that shows how desperate Labor 0:00:26.910 --> 0:00:31.200 is to use multiculturalism to bribe religious groups for votes. 0:00:31.300 --> 0:00:35.120 You won't believe the video. Plus a strange... face of 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.450 the riots in France, telling shopkeepers to suck up being looted. 0:00:39.830 --> 0:00:45.150 Plenty more, including Barnaby Joyce. But first, back in June, 0:00:45.970 --> 0:00:48.729 I got a text from one of our top lobbying 0:00:48.830 --> 0:00:52.269 companies and it said, hi, Andrew, saw your piece on 0:00:52.330 --> 0:00:54.830 Ben Roberts Smith. Would you like to talk to Ben? Because, 0:00:55.450 --> 0:00:58.220 you know, he was apparently keen to talk to me. 0:00:59.050 --> 0:01:02.880 And I said, sure. I never heard another word, which 0:01:02.940 --> 0:01:07.680 is not surprising. Now, you know, I may be billed 0:01:07.740 --> 0:01:10.100 as the best red columnist in the country, you know, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:15.410 with the largest audience on News 24, but I don't 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.649 tolerate bull. It makes me a good platform, a natural platform, 0:01:19.670 --> 0:01:23.030 but I don't tolerate bull or play sides or play 0:01:23.069 --> 0:01:26.170 for applause. And I have made clear that the charges 0:01:26.190 --> 0:01:30.050 against Ben Robert Smith, they're extremely serious and must be 0:01:30.110 --> 0:01:34.810 sorted out in a court. and not by a campaign 0:01:34.990 --> 0:01:39.370 outside it, a campaign which includes spin, big bucks, politics, 0:01:39.930 --> 0:01:43.970 a hunger for clicks and appeals to the mob. And 0:01:43.990 --> 0:01:46.850 for all the abuse I will once again get tonight 0:01:47.090 --> 0:01:49.890 from people who are told that this is about defending 0:01:49.940 --> 0:01:55.680 a patriot, I am going to speak out again. You see, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.380 I may never have heard again from Robert Smith, but 0:01:59.420 --> 0:02:03.070 I sure am suddenly hearing now a lot of about 0:02:03.250 --> 0:02:05.950 our war hero, the VC winner, who has now been 0:02:05.970 --> 0:02:08.940 charged with five alleged war crimes. And you are hearing 0:02:08.980 --> 0:02:10.840 a lot too, especially today. 0:02:11.980 --> 0:02:16.280 When you know that you would have died for this country, 0:02:19.260 --> 0:02:20.179 it stings a little bit. 0:02:23.740 --> 0:02:26.370 Now, this is a part of an interview that we're 0:02:26.380 --> 0:02:27.850 going to run on News 24 at 8.30 tonight, backed 0:02:27.870 --> 0:02:32.210 by Articles in our News Corp newspapers you may have 0:02:32.230 --> 0:02:36.510 already read. Papers that have been given photographs by Robert 0:02:36.550 --> 0:02:39.410 Smith of him as a child. And, of course, this 0:02:39.470 --> 0:02:41.920 is a legitimate news story. He must be allowed to 0:02:41.940 --> 0:02:45.040 have his say. But you also need to know that 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.639 for Robert Smith, this is also part of a coordinated 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.030 campaign by him and his backers. That includes now his 0:02:54.090 --> 0:02:56.810 girlfriend releasing a video on Instagram of happy snaps of 0:02:56.850 --> 0:03:00.049 Ben Robert Smith and his new line of clothing called 0:03:00.070 --> 0:03:02.830 the Epic 1-2, named after his call sign in the 0:03:02.850 --> 0:03:06.980 Special Air Services Regiment. And this campaign includes also a 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.760 pre-recorded and long interview with Ben Fordham on 2GB this morning. 0:03:13.020 --> 0:03:16.460 Just think about if it was your son or your 0:03:16.500 --> 0:03:21.480 husband or your brother in that position, would you like 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.180 them to have a fair go? That's all I'm asking, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.970 just some perspective and a bit of bloody fairness, mate. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.680 And there's more. One of the two billionaires backing Robert Smith, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.080 mining tycoon Gina Reinhart, invited him to last week help 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.520 open a home for mentally wounded veterans that she has funded, 0:03:40.300 --> 0:03:43.120 with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson also there, also backing 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.600 Robert Smith. In fact, Hanson's Please Explain cartoon keeps attacking 0:03:47.650 --> 0:03:51.490 Liberal frontbencher Andrew Hastie, calling him a traitor. Just a joke, 0:03:51.550 --> 0:03:55.650 they say. And I know there's also behind the scenes 0:03:56.210 --> 0:03:59.560 a powerful campaign to smear Hastie as a traitor... even 0:03:59.570 --> 0:04:02.540 though he's actually a former SAS captain who's put his 0:04:02.580 --> 0:04:05.860 life on the line for us. And this campaign to 0:04:05.900 --> 0:04:07.940 smear him is quite obvious. It's because he was one 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.720 of the, well, about 40 former and current soldiers to 0:04:11.740 --> 0:04:16.120 give evidence when Robert Smith sued the nine newspapers for 0:04:16.500 --> 0:04:21.790 accusing him of war crimes, and he lost. Now, I 0:04:21.870 --> 0:04:24.950 know for a fact about this campaign of denigration because 0:04:24.990 --> 0:04:27.729 I was approached to be part of it, approached in 0:04:27.790 --> 0:04:31.720 confidence by someone else, so... I can't say more. But 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.100 in that defamation case that he lost, Robert Smith appealed 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.480 to the full federal court and lost again. The court 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.770 found that he had given false evidence and that he 0:04:43.810 --> 0:04:47.669 had changed his story, that on the balance of the evidence, 0:04:47.710 --> 0:04:51.029 he had indeed shot or ordered the shooting of unarmed, 0:04:51.450 --> 0:04:57.180 bound prisoners, and it wasn't, as some still claim, including here, 0:04:57.940 --> 0:05:01.049 It wasn't shot in the heat of battle, in the 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:07.350 fog of war. Since then, his loss in court, he's 0:05:07.390 --> 0:05:11.050 been charged with five such alleged war crimes and now 0:05:11.089 --> 0:05:14.610 faces trial by jury and with a higher standard of proof, 0:05:14.710 --> 0:05:19.070 not on the balance of probabilities now, but beyond reasonable doubt. Now, 0:05:19.110 --> 0:05:23.870 let me be clear. Robert Smith must be presumed innocent. 0:05:24.670 --> 0:05:28.049 He is also brave. And he risked his life for 0:05:28.150 --> 0:05:31.229 us and is entitled to fight like hell to save 0:05:31.250 --> 0:05:35.729 himself from being jailed as a war criminal. Indeed, he's 0:05:35.770 --> 0:05:37.450 now going full out to tell us he is a 0:05:37.650 --> 0:05:41.190 war hero being made a scapegoat by the deep state, 0:05:41.910 --> 0:05:49.950 by failed politicians and, you know, officers who failed as well. 0:05:50.589 --> 0:05:52.770 And that's the kind of red meat that One Nation 0:05:52.810 --> 0:05:55.450 voters and battlers, they especially love. 0:05:58.250 --> 0:06:03.830 No strategy, no win. 42 guys dead, over 200 wounded. 0:06:04.610 --> 0:06:06.830 And what are we still talking about? We're talking about 0:06:06.950 --> 0:06:09.980 a private and a corporal who have been alleged to 0:06:10.020 --> 0:06:13.220 have done the wrong thing on a mission because it's 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:14.000 a great distraction. 0:06:16.580 --> 0:06:20.040 Now, many people watching tonight will find Ben Robert Smith 0:06:20.339 --> 0:06:23.710 very persuasive and fellow hosts here clearly do as well, 0:06:23.830 --> 0:06:26.940 as do the guests that they have chosen. Yet there 0:06:27.100 --> 0:06:31.440 are things you should know. I'm not now going to 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.810 act like a prosecutor and go line by line through 0:06:33.850 --> 0:06:37.210 what Robert said, fact check, you know, what he said 0:06:37.290 --> 0:06:39.770 this morning to Ben Fordham, what he's going to say 0:06:39.790 --> 0:06:44.130 tonight to us. These really are matters for the court. 0:06:44.890 --> 0:06:47.220 And I do not want to see him found guilty. 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:47.680 I do not. 0:06:48.860 --> 0:06:52.300 Unless he is guilty, but I don't... You know, I don't... No, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:57.740 I don't have... a dog in this fight. But two 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.340 things in particular I do want to address, and not 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.790 least because they do demonstrate the need to at least 0:07:03.830 --> 0:07:07.290 keep an open mind, to not automatically accept everything Robert 0:07:07.330 --> 0:07:11.690 Smith says. For instance, he says he's fighting a government 0:07:11.730 --> 0:07:15.950 whose tamed police are intimidating witnesses. In fact, the only 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.940 evidence in court so far of witnesses being intimidated are 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.100 the three witnesses the Federal Court says were intimidated by 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.350 Robert Smith himself. is also found to have colluded with one. 0:07:29.430 --> 0:07:32.170 And what's more, one of his own witnesses, an SAS major, 0:07:32.270 --> 0:07:36.470 even told the Federal Court that four SAS sergeants told 0:07:36.510 --> 0:07:38.870 him a decade ago that Ben Robert Smith was unfit 0:07:39.150 --> 0:07:42.230 to be awarded the Victoria Cross. They accused him of 0:07:42.510 --> 0:07:45.750 claiming battlefield kills made by other soldiers, accused him of 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.540 bullying fellow soldiers. Whatever. 0:07:50.740 --> 0:07:50.920 Now. 0:07:52.110 --> 0:07:55.750 He is, I have to say, completely right to be 0:07:56.070 --> 0:07:58.730 outraged in these interviews that someone in government or its 0:07:58.770 --> 0:08:03.970 security agencies tipped off reporters. Tipped them off so there 0:08:03.990 --> 0:08:07.060 were TV crews to witness him getting arrested at Sydney 0:08:07.140 --> 0:08:10.700 Airport over these alleged war crimes. And that was something 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.780 I absolutely condemned at the time. It's appalling. That said, 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.740 there is still a hunt for the leaker. It was 0:08:16.860 --> 0:08:20.200 not sanctioned by the Australian Federal Police, as some conspiracy 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.670 theorists suggest. And I may have something to reveal about 0:08:23.710 --> 0:08:29.510 that soon. But back to the interviews today. There was 0:08:29.550 --> 0:08:33.170 also this admission by Robert Smith that the vast majority 0:08:33.220 --> 0:08:35.739 of witnesses in his federal court defamation case were in 0:08:35.780 --> 0:08:40.719 fact fellow soldiers. They were not Afghans or civilians who 0:08:40.780 --> 0:08:46.059 know nothing of battle, as some people still insist. Those 0:08:46.620 --> 0:08:53.830 witnesses in that court case included 19 SAS soldiers, fellow 0:08:54.030 --> 0:08:58.319 SAS soldiers, past and present, most of whom testified against him. 0:08:59.380 --> 0:09:02.780 I mean, there was 19. I accept that. The majority 0:09:02.820 --> 0:09:05.740 of them were subpoenaed and didn't want to be there. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.679 Out of those 19 guys during that case, four of 0:09:11.740 --> 0:09:17.210 those people gave evidence or direct evidence to these allegations. 0:09:17.230 --> 0:09:23.970 Now, that's actually misleading. Ben Robert Smith there is excluding 0:09:24.070 --> 0:09:27.110 eyewitnesses who saw a very great deal. Let me take 0:09:27.150 --> 0:09:30.569 you through one of the killings examined by the federal court, 0:09:30.610 --> 0:09:33.370 for which Robert Smith has since been charged, and again, 0:09:33.490 --> 0:09:39.170 he pleads innocent. In April 2009, Robert Smith, then a corporal, 0:09:39.690 --> 0:09:43.450 was among SAS soldiers searching a compound in Afghanistan for 0:09:43.490 --> 0:09:47.770 weapons and for any Taliban guerrillas. Now, three federal court 0:09:47.809 --> 0:09:50.750 judges wrote in their judgment, this is in the appeal, 0:09:51.370 --> 0:09:55.380 that two Afghan nationals were discovered in a concealed tunnel 0:09:55.820 --> 0:09:59.110 and brought out into a courtyard. The judges say one 0:09:59.150 --> 0:10:01.619 was an old man. the other a man with a 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.600 prosthetic leg. They were tied up and Robert Smith brought 0:10:05.740 --> 0:10:10.170 one to a private referred to as Person 4, name withheld. 0:10:10.910 --> 0:10:13.390 The judges write, Robert Smith kicked the old man in 0:10:13.410 --> 0:10:15.450 the back of the legs just behind the knees until 0:10:15.490 --> 0:10:18.710 he was kneeling in front of Person 4. He then 0:10:18.830 --> 0:10:21.090 pointed at the old man and said to Person 4, 0:10:21.090 --> 0:10:24.290 shoot him. Person 4 did so with a single shot 0:10:24.309 --> 0:10:26.850 to the old man's head and the judges say Robert 0:10:26.910 --> 0:10:30.670 Smith was then later spotted by two SAS soldiers, frog-marching 0:10:30.690 --> 0:10:34.599 the one-legged man outside and one saw Robert Smith throw 0:10:34.620 --> 0:10:36.920 the man on the ground on his back. Robert Smith 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.320 reached down, grabbed the man by the shoulder and flipped 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.760 him over to his stomach. He then lowered his machine 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:46.380 gun and shot approximately three to five rounds into the man. Now, 0:10:47.700 --> 0:10:53.699 One of the witnesses in this particular incident, one that 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:58.960 Robert Smith is not including among the four soldiers, he say, 0:10:59.740 --> 0:11:04.840 were directly witnessing, said the shootings, was a soldier who 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:10.400 said he'd heard and seen Robert Smith ordering the execution 0:11:10.420 --> 0:11:12.949 of the old man. He didn't want to watch, so 0:11:12.990 --> 0:11:15.830 he ducked inside a door, heard the shot, looked out 0:11:15.950 --> 0:11:19.500 and saw the Afghan man dead in the sand, bleeding 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:26.640 into the ground. Now, this is the evidence of the 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:32.330 story of a soldier that Robert Smith says can't be 0:11:32.370 --> 0:11:36.910 included in those four witnesses. I think that's pretty powerful stuff. 0:11:37.730 --> 0:11:39.929 The guy also said that the soldier that Robert Smith 0:11:39.970 --> 0:11:45.489 had ordered to shoot, that Afghan, looked shocked. Now, Robert Smith, 0:11:45.530 --> 0:11:49.130 of course, denies seeing any execution at all, denies these 0:11:49.630 --> 0:11:51.690 bodies were implanted with weapons to make them look like 0:11:51.710 --> 0:11:56.290 they'd been shot fighting. But that was also contradicted by 0:11:56.330 --> 0:11:58.750 an SAS soldier who had actually found and photographed the 0:11:58.790 --> 0:12:04.960 weapons stored somewhere else before they were found on the bodies. Now, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.000 I get it. There are a lot of people who, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:12.640 despite all that, say, so what? Why prosecute our own? Well, 0:12:12.660 --> 0:12:16.559 here's why. Because we are shamed and put in danger 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.700 if we allow allegations of such conduct in our name. 0:12:21.140 --> 0:12:24.059 There's a moral issue. I mean, for us, supposedly only 0:12:24.100 --> 0:12:27.920 barbarians murder their prisoners. And that's why we loathe the Nazis, say, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.979 for executing five Australian airmen caught after the Great Escape. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.400 That's why we condemn Japan for beheading Australian Commando Sergeant 0:12:36.460 --> 0:12:44.520 Leonard George Sifleet in 1943. And machine-gunning 21 Australian nurses 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.340 on Banker Island. So are we really just fighting for 0:12:49.380 --> 0:12:52.719 a side and not for principles, for our values? And 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.480 then there's the legal argument. One of the oldest of 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.709 international rules of war is that you don't murder prisoners. 0:12:59.750 --> 0:13:02.750 That's the most fundamental rule of the Geneva Conventions, first 0:13:02.830 --> 0:13:07.290 passed in 1864, now signed by 194 countries, including us. 0:13:08.190 --> 0:13:11.090 These are rules that we hope protect our own soldiers 0:13:11.170 --> 0:13:14.620 too if they are captured. And what's more, if we 0:13:14.650 --> 0:13:17.540 don't investigate credible claims of war crimes by our own, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.880 then the International Criminal Court is licensed to do that 0:13:21.020 --> 0:13:25.700 for us. Now, if Australia gets a name for allowing 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.179 its soldiers to allegedly act like Nazis, we are going 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.580 to horrify our allies and excite our enemies and inspire them. 0:13:34.420 --> 0:13:36.300 I know, I will have angered enough of you already, 0:13:36.370 --> 0:13:39.490 so I'll finish with a consolation to anyone who doesn't 0:13:39.530 --> 0:13:42.210 care about the morality, doesn't care about the law, doesn't 0:13:42.250 --> 0:13:44.670 care about the truth, who does say Ben Robert Smith 0:13:44.890 --> 0:13:48.290 is an Australian hero, full stop, and believes what he says, 0:13:48.429 --> 0:13:53.840 which you're entitled to do. Don't worry. The very clever 0:13:53.890 --> 0:13:57.100 campaign you are now seeing will work, in my opinion. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.860 It will help to make a fair trial impossible, whether 0:14:00.940 --> 0:14:03.740 or not that was the intention. And my fear too 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.300 is that witnesses might even be scared off giving evidence 0:14:06.620 --> 0:14:09.569 when they see how Andrew Hastie is being treated, even 0:14:09.610 --> 0:14:12.930 if that too isn't the attention of the people vilifying him. 0:14:14.410 --> 0:14:17.270 And if the trial does still go ahead, here is 0:14:17.350 --> 0:14:21.430 my tip. Robert Smith will be found innocent. The trial 0:14:21.470 --> 0:14:23.790 must be before a jury of 12 and Robert Smith 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:28.660 goes free if just one of them says not guilty. So, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:40.680 a very clever campaign. Let me move to politics of 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.960 today before I come back to this briefly. The Prime 0:14:43.980 --> 0:14:47.890 Minister had another shocker today. And I just wonder, why 0:14:48.050 --> 0:14:52.850 can't this man just say sorry? Why the lying again? 0:14:52.870 --> 0:14:56.430 Anthony Albanese has been telling us to be more civil 0:14:56.690 --> 0:14:59.210 and to cool the temperature after the horrendous attack on 0:14:59.250 --> 0:15:03.250 Monday on independent MP Helen Haynes, who's now lost both 0:15:03.490 --> 0:15:07.739 her legs. But this is the same man, as I 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.190 told you on Monday, whose own office, before the accident, 0:15:11.230 --> 0:15:14.170 sent journalists a dirt file on Helen Haynes after she 0:15:14.270 --> 0:15:18.990 dared to criticise Albanese's dodgy $ 6 million grant to the 0:15:19.010 --> 0:15:22.070 Marrickville Golf Club near his home, falsely claiming he had 0:15:22.110 --> 0:15:24.430 no role in giving the grant and falsely claiming he 0:15:24.460 --> 0:15:26.250 wasn't a member of the club and hadn't set foot 0:15:26.290 --> 0:15:26.510 in it. 0:15:27.540 --> 0:15:32.100 Sports rots was pork barrelling by deception. This is pork 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.380 barrelling by design. 0:15:35.910 --> 0:15:38.050 Now, the Prime Minister is coming under a lot of 0:15:38.090 --> 0:15:44.270 fire now for that dirt file, and today declared, no, 0:15:44.290 --> 0:15:48.190 it wasn't a dirt file, and he pretended it was 0:15:48.350 --> 0:15:51.640 actually a document praising Helen Haynes. 0:15:53.020 --> 0:15:58.740 Let's be very clear, because apparently it's been published somewhere... 0:15:59.630 --> 0:16:06.390 It's a list of funding us from Helen Haynes just 0:16:06.430 --> 0:16:10.340 showing that people of integrity stand up for their electorate. 0:16:11.180 --> 0:16:13.800 No personal criticism of Helen. 0:16:15.580 --> 0:16:21.100 Pants on fire. I have seen the document. It sure 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.900 is a smear sheet. Let me read some of it 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.970 out to you so you can see for yourself how 0:16:25.990 --> 0:16:28.660 the Prime Minister just lied about It says in the 0:16:28.700 --> 0:16:30.700 lead-up to the election, the member for Indo, which is 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.210 Helen Haynes, wrote to Treasurer Jim Chalmers requesting more than 0:16:35.210 --> 0:16:38.670 $ 845 million of Commonwealth funding for local projects. And it 0:16:38.690 --> 0:16:41.010 goes on to imply Haynes is something to hide, might 0:16:41.030 --> 0:16:44.530 even be wink-wink corrupt. It says it is unclear what 0:16:44.550 --> 0:16:48.460 interest the member has. in businesses, community groups, sporting organisations 0:16:48.500 --> 0:16:51.960 or clubs that would benefit from these wide-ranging and expensive 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.740 projects that she has flagged as worthy of funding. And 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:00.620 just in case journalists didn't get the message, it went on, adding, 0:17:00.730 --> 0:17:03.729 for instance, of one of the projects, given she has 0:17:03.850 --> 0:17:06.909 pushed for funding for this project, has the member for 0:17:06.930 --> 0:17:12.590 Hindai ever visited, received, undeclared gifts, including wine maybe or 0:17:12.770 --> 0:17:16.389 food or, Has she held business interests with or received 0:17:16.430 --> 0:17:20.530 political donations from or had professional personal associations with any 0:17:20.570 --> 0:17:25.870 local companies or organisations on Prosecco Road, this project? This 0:17:26.150 --> 0:17:30.450 clearly was not, as Albanese claims, a list showing Haynes 0:17:30.470 --> 0:17:34.130 was a person of integrity, but a dirt file inviting 0:17:34.190 --> 0:17:38.170 people to think that she might not be a woman 0:17:38.210 --> 0:17:42.310 of integrity at all and without giving any proof of that. 0:17:43.010 --> 0:17:45.710 Joining me is my Thursday regular commentator, One Nation MP 0:17:45.750 --> 0:17:49.330 Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby. Why can't 0:17:49.369 --> 0:17:52.550 the Prime Minister just confess and apologise instead of telling 0:17:52.590 --> 0:17:56.100 these outrageous lies? It's pathology. 0:17:56.730 --> 0:17:59.780 And not only is the fact that he's lying again, 0:18:00.100 --> 0:18:03.300 lying again... But obviously their office is dumb as a 0:18:03.500 --> 0:18:06.340 bag of hammers. I mean, they sent through a Word document. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.000 And a Word document, you just jam it back through AI, 0:18:09.020 --> 0:18:11.500 get all the metadata out. We can tell you whose 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.639 office it came from, Anthony Albanese's. We can tell you 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.880 who wrote it in Anthony Albanese's office. We can tell 0:18:17.900 --> 0:18:20.700 you what they changed. We can even tell you what 0:18:20.740 --> 0:18:23.419 time they started on the document and what time they finished. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:24.720 And this is just. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:26.220 Why would someone sit. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:26.920 Back there and write that? 0:18:27.420 --> 0:18:29.480 It's instructed as if they all didn't know about it. 0:18:30.220 --> 0:18:33.790 And we're all supposed to sit back and go, oh, no, 0:18:34.010 --> 0:18:37.810 nothing to see here. No, we believe you, Albo. It's 0:18:37.910 --> 0:18:45.160 just pathetic. This government's pathetic. It's coming asunder at the seams. And, 0:18:45.180 --> 0:18:49.500 you know, God bless Helen Haynes. She called them out. 0:18:50.460 --> 0:18:53.220 They got a massive chip on their shoulder and they're 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.100 all upset about it. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.970 So they've gone and said, oh, we'll get her. We'll 0:18:57.010 --> 0:18:58.190 get her. Watch this. 0:18:59.109 --> 0:19:01.930 And, you know, and I do really mean God bless 0:19:01.970 --> 0:19:02.550 Helen Haynes. 0:19:02.869 --> 0:19:03.300 I hope she. 0:19:03.430 --> 0:19:08.080 We don't want to grandstand on this complete tragedy, so 0:19:08.140 --> 0:19:12.560 I'm just referring just to what Mr Albanese's office has done, 0:19:12.580 --> 0:19:15.560 and I would say I can't prove it, but I 0:19:15.580 --> 0:19:19.840 would say it's highly, highly unlikely that Mr Albanese didn't 0:19:19.859 --> 0:19:23.060 know about it. And that interview with your stable, all 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.100 these weasel words where he said, oh, she's always fighting 0:19:26.140 --> 0:19:27.360 for things for her electorate. 0:19:28.250 --> 0:19:29.550 That wasn't the question that was asked. 0:19:29.570 --> 0:19:32.770 You know the tenor of the question was, did you 0:19:32.830 --> 0:19:37.070 put out a slime sheet on Helen Haynes? And, of course, 0:19:37.109 --> 0:19:39.889 he didn't answer that because, and by not answering it, 0:19:39.869 --> 0:19:44.040 you're lying because you're not being fulsome with the truth 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.250 and we all know what the truth is. 0:19:46.250 --> 0:19:49.370 I should actually clarify, I don't think he should just 0:19:49.470 --> 0:19:52.169 apologise to us for lying, lying to our face. He 0:19:52.190 --> 0:19:55.899 should apologise to Helen Hughes for trying to imply she 0:19:55.940 --> 0:19:59.580 was not the woman of integrity that he now... Helen Haynes, sorry, 0:19:59.619 --> 0:20:02.240 Helen Haynes, that she was not the woman of integrity 0:20:02.619 --> 0:20:05.760 that he now claims she is. Yeah, I know. It's 0:20:05.820 --> 0:20:07.580 just so pathetic. How can you do that? 0:20:08.410 --> 0:20:11.929 It's just, I don't know, Andrew, it's just so infuriatingly 0:20:12.230 --> 0:20:15.409 ridiculous that you think we're all that stupid when the 0:20:15.470 --> 0:20:17.230 only people who are as dumb as a bag of 0:20:17.270 --> 0:20:21.980 hammers are residing in the Prime Minister of Australia's office. Because, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.780 you know, it was a pathetic attempt to. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.210 Demean and diminish...... 0:20:29.180 --> 0:20:33.230 A very decent lady, a very decent lady who's now 0:20:33.270 --> 0:20:37.109 been seen by this tragic accident to be... See, at 0:20:37.130 --> 0:20:39.150 first she's extolled to the Australian people, even though she's 0:20:39.530 --> 0:20:41.150 really not on the same side of the political fence 0:20:41.210 --> 0:20:44.230 as me, but I'm disgusted by a Prime Minister's office 0:20:44.250 --> 0:20:47.399 that A, would do this, and B, would just front 0:20:47.580 --> 0:20:49.940 up with the gall of just. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.609 Just front...... 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.020 Pathetic lies just in your face. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:58.780 If he had apologised... If he had apologised... On day one, Monday, 0:20:59.100 --> 0:21:02.320 this will not still be a story on Thursday and 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.840 it will be tomorrow again. I mean, this is the thing. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.460 This is the thing. It's the attempted cover-up that gets 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:12.810 you every single time. Front up, say sorry. Barnaby, I 0:21:12.940 --> 0:21:15.550 need to go back to the Ben Roberts-Smith publicity campaign. 0:21:15.590 --> 0:21:19.210 Your reaction to it? Look, I'm going to leave it 0:21:19.230 --> 0:21:25.010 to the court. Where I agree with you is this, Andrew... 0:21:25.590 --> 0:21:27.410 As I think a Section 80 case in. 0:21:27.350 --> 0:21:31.109 The Constitution, it's a Section 80 case because it's happened overseas, 0:21:31.130 --> 0:21:33.889 it has to go before a jury. And finding a 0:21:33.930 --> 0:21:39.710 jury to convict with it beyond a reasonable doubt in unison, 0:21:39.770 --> 0:21:42.090 that means the whole lot of them, for an event 0:21:42.130 --> 0:21:45.230 that happened 17 years ago is going to be extraordinarily 0:21:45.730 --> 0:21:48.830 difficult no matter what the circumstances. And I'll let the 0:21:49.070 --> 0:21:50.830 court deliberate over the circumstances. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.160 Well, I'd wish that everyone would just do that, just 0:21:56.340 --> 0:21:59.179 leave it to the court, let them decide. But I 0:21:59.220 --> 0:22:04.080 just think... I just think this is trying to try it, 0:22:04.700 --> 0:22:06.580 you know, mob rule. We saw that with George Pell, 0:22:06.619 --> 0:22:09.760 by the way, and I'm not implying one way or 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.960 the other whether he's guilty or not. I do not know. 0:22:11.980 --> 0:22:15.480 I do not know. I'm just saying I really believe 0:22:15.790 --> 0:22:18.390 in leaving these things to the courts. Barnaby Joyce, thank 0:22:18.410 --> 0:22:22.399 you so much for your time. After the break, a 0:22:22.580 --> 0:22:26.160 desperate Labor government promises a Hindu temple half a million 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:31.190 dollars if this government is re-elected, showing that multiculturalism is, 0:22:31.290 --> 0:22:41.690 as I've always said, politically corrupt. Victoria's going to the 0:22:41.750 --> 0:22:44.330 election in a month, and the Labor government, the worst 0:22:44.369 --> 0:22:47.780 in the country by a mile, now looks and sounds 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.419 and acts like it's already had the stuffing knocked out 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.429 of it. And no wonder, of course, it's racked up 0:22:52.450 --> 0:22:55.570 the biggest state debt in the country. It's let $ 15 0:22:55.510 --> 0:22:59.919 billion approximately of taxpayers' money get stolen by organised crime 0:22:59.980 --> 0:23:04.580 and corrupt unions. The roads are a disgrace, a lethal disgrace. 0:23:04.660 --> 0:23:07.879 It's record crime. And one measure of how desperate the 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.170 government is, yet how reckless it still is with cash. 0:23:13.250 --> 0:23:16.230 Just look at what it's now doing. Last week, of course, 0:23:16.270 --> 0:23:17.449 it even promised to pay people to. 0:23:19.380 --> 0:23:22.280 They'll get paid even more to abort babies, can you 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.180 believe it, which is just sick. Now it's gone to 0:23:25.220 --> 0:23:29.280 a Hindu temple in Craigieburn, where about 13% of voters 0:23:29.580 --> 0:23:34.689 are Indian, and promised a great fat multicultural bribe. 0:23:35.609 --> 0:23:39.810 Labor is the only government that has supported Temple, and 0:23:39.830 --> 0:23:41.369 we will continue to do so. 0:23:41.390 --> 0:23:44.830 To start with. 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.430 We will do that, a re-elected Labor government will do 0:23:49.470 --> 0:23:54.909 that with $ 500, 000 for infrastructure upgrades. 0:23:59.710 --> 0:24:02.340 The excuse of spending half a mil, well, the temple 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.100 needs better safety. Got to also make it easier for 0:24:05.180 --> 0:24:09.680 worshippers to get to. But why? Your temple is your responsibility. 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:14.590 Your mosque is your responsibility. Why should we be paying 0:24:14.630 --> 0:24:16.619 for a Hindu temple or a mosque or even a 0:24:16.700 --> 0:24:20.189 church if we're not believers ourselves? 0:24:20.390 --> 0:24:20.630 Why? 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.619 And this half a million dollars from a broke government 0:24:23.660 --> 0:24:27.020 to this temple comes on top of another $ 80, 000 it 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.639 gave the same temple earlier this year for supposed security upgrades. 0:24:32.260 --> 0:24:37.120 And this is multiculturalism at its most politically corrupt and divisive. 0:24:37.369 --> 0:24:40.590 This government is handing out millions and millions to at 0:24:40.630 --> 0:24:46.660 least 24 ethnic communities, 14 religions... which it says, you know, 0:24:46.780 --> 0:24:49.359 all this is for ensuring all Victorians have safe, accessible 0:24:49.580 --> 0:24:53.520 and culturally appropriate spaces to gather and celebrate their heritage. 0:24:54.530 --> 0:24:56.870 Why is it the role of government to fund any 0:24:56.930 --> 0:25:00.830 heritage except a heritage that unites us all, like an 0:25:00.869 --> 0:25:04.189 Australian one? Why is it the role of government to 0:25:04.230 --> 0:25:09.380 fund 14 religions or more Like I say, your religion, 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.460 your business. It's a rort and it really shows that 0:25:12.540 --> 0:25:16.750 multiculturalism is just an excuse and a machinery and a 0:25:16.790 --> 0:25:22.530 bureaucracy for politicians to bribe immigrant communities for votes. And 0:25:22.570 --> 0:25:24.910