WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 23 June 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.200 From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:09.120 Live Good evening, nine o'clock on the East coast of Australia. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.959 It is as we speak, when the sun starts to 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.560 rise in Washington, DC, when we will start to hear 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.360 again from the President of the United States, who has 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.960 had plenty to say on his social media platforms, as 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.720 well as a lot of action which is happening in 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.360 and around the Middle East where it is two o'clock 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.680 right now in Israel, where bombs from Iran have been landing. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.600 Despite the Iron Dome, some have made it through. Some 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.640 of the explosions pretty significant thankfully. As we discussed last 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.280 on on the program, adequate warning means most people end 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.479 up in a bomb shelter. Let's focus on Iran, though, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.320 because there is a fair bit happening there right now. 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.160 In fact, in the past hour there has been major 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.920 operations and I'll tell you some of the targets that 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.640 have been hit. The local time there is one thirty 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.400 in the afternoon. We've also got an idea of what 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.880 is happening in Europe with the bosses of the International 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.640 Tomic Energy Authority, those people on the behalf of the 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.240 United nations have actually got some indication about what damage 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.920 has been done in the past couple of days. We'll 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.120 get to that in a moment or two's time. And 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.840 the Iranians a meeting in Moscow hoping for some help 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:20.000 from Vladimir Putin, a former Russian prime minister and Russian president, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.640 has actually had putting you to say on top of 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.000 what might come out of that conversation. So let me 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.240 bring you up to date. A lot has happened even 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.600 in the past couple of hours. Now, put simply, the 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.200 reason I tell you all of those times is primetime 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.320 on Sky News, and certainly towards this time of primetime 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.800 is when you're going to start to hear stuff out 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.520 of the United States. We seem to be right at 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.280 the height of when things happen during the daytime in 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.800 the Middle East, and as I said, you can start 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.400 to look your way around the globe. So regardless of 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.840 what you may hear in the morning, which would be 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.480 a form of an update, if you are interested in 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.560 following every little move of this thing, make sure you're 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.760 checking in with Sky News Primetime again at the top 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.240 of each show. For the few days, I'll try to 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.680 tell you what has happened in the past couple of hours, 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.120 not just react to what has happened in the past 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.120 twenty four hours. Okay, so let's get on with this. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:15.040 So as we speak, the United Nations and via their 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.960 Weapons Inspectors, are now starting to give us a little 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.840 bit of an insight into how much damage was done 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.679 by the American hit on Iran. Now, you know, the 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.440 past twenty four to thirty six hours, there's been great 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.080 claims made by the President of the United States and 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.440 military officials that of the three different sites that they hit, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.959 there has been significant damage done to the Iranian nuclear operation. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.880 The Iranian said that they because they feared that things 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.200 were coming, some of these sites may well have been 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.359 emptied out. So there's a lot of bluster, there's a 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.600 lot of bs, there's a lot of sizzle, but there's 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.920 also a lot of steak when it comes to this story. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.960 So again I'll try to explain things and try to 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.280 keep an eye on lots of moving parts here. So 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.680 let's have a look here at the announcement which was 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.880 made by the essentially United Nations and their Weapons Inspectors. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.600 And I'm going to take a little bit of time 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.560 to play this for you. Because the three main sites, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.360 including of course the one that was underground and the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.320 two other sites, all hit within that extraordinary hour or 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.200 so in the middle of the night, about between two 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:25.120 and three am local time in Iran. Well, remember we 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.799 had to wait a couple of days to find out 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.800 what the battle damage assessments were going to be. The 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.520 Americans are expected to give us another insight into that, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.480 perhaps as early as the next couple of hours, but 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.920 in a midpoint between the early announcements, the bluster that 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.560 may will have come out of America about how decisive 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.240 this is, well, what is actually happening and is there 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:51.520 any fallout because obviously, if you're hitting enriched uranium, the 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.280 possibility for poisons to make it end of the air 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.240 and wins to move it around local populations becomes an issue. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.120 But here's literally freeh of the press. What's just been 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.200 said by the UN. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.000 This time, No one, including the IEA, is in opposition 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.080 to have fully assessed the underground damage at four Doux. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:19.440 Given the explosive payload utilized and the extreme vibration sensitive 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:26.440 nature of centrifuges, very significant damage is to have occurred, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:32.560 is expected to have occurred at the Isfahan nuclear side, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:37.080 additional buildings were hit, with the US confirming their use 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:42.080 of cruise missiles. Affected buildings include some related to the 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:49.640 uranium conversion process. Also at this site, entrances to tunnels 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.200 used for the storage of enriched material appear to have 0:04:54.520 --> 0:05:00.880 been hit. At the Nathan's Enrichment site, the fuel enrichment 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.880 plunt was hit, with the US confirming that it uced 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.120 round penetraating munitions. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.640 So at this stage there seems to be significant damage. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.640 Remember the President was saying that it was a bulls 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:18.320 eye hear total annihilation. The Uranians have said, yes, thanks 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.880 for the effort. There is some damage, but we may 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.800 well have other facilities in other places. Again where the 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.640 truth lies. It does take a couple of days to 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.280 get there. And the reason we didn't show you last night, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.080 and I've held off showing you some of those satellite 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.440 images was because they simply weren't detailed enough. And again, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.279 I know there's a lot on social media. I know 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.279 there's a lot on clickbait media, but we do our 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.000 best to verify as much as possible to pull it 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.200 all together for you at the end of the night, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.320 which we'll be doing for the next couple of days now. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:51.120 Also in the past hour, the Israeli Defense Forces have 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.400 announced that they are stepping up the war against Iran 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.560 and they are now starting to move from the military 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.600 targets to the regime targets. The regime targets put simply, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.640 are the government the capacity for the Iranian government to 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.080 stay in place. The Israeli Defense Forces in the last 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.240 hour have put out a statement saying that they have 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:21.320 struck six regime airports across western, central, and eastern Iran. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:27.080 They've hit runways, underground hangars, refueling aircraft as well as 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.120 a series of jets. The destroyed aircraft were meant to 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.799 stop the IAF jets put simply again, trying to push 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:41.000 back against Israeli, United States any other jets that may 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.000 well be moving into the area. The IAF impaired takeoff 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.159 capabilities from these airports, as well as the Iranian military's 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.320 ability to operate its air force from them. So remember, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.400 part of how we've got where we've gotten the past 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.239 week is because the ability of Iran to launch anything 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.080 but and missile has been deeply knocked back. An idea 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.400 of some of the places that have been hit as 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:10.120 you can see multiple towards the west of the country 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.239 or the left of your screen, we know around Tehran, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.240 but there's a little more detail about one of the 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.640 things they've hit in the past hour, as well as 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.840 the center of the country, and then of course to 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.640 the east or the right hand side of your screen. Now, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.200 traditionally the further to the left of your screen, the 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.720 closer things are to Israel. Obviously the further away, the 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.080 closer we start to get into other countries, including countries 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.680 like Pakistan which do share much and some of the 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.760 border here. One of the things that has been hit 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.880 in the past hour is a prison. I understand that 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.960 the prison is in central Tehran. Now, the plan was 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.800 not to level the prison to kill the prisoners. Instead, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.400 the Israeli defense forces have released some footage in the 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.480 past couple of minutes. Will turn that around for you 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.600 when we can. They've done is they're blown the doors 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.720 off the prison because the prison is apparently where many 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:11.440 political prisoners I enemies of the regime would be in place. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.560 Great work from our team have turned that around very quickly. Again, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.200 you can see the doors of a notorious prison where 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.040 political prisoners are being held. Has been blown off by 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.160 the Israelis. The Israelis, who for the past week have 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.800 been focused on military targets, are now starting to move 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.680 towards what they referred to as regime targets. Now they 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:37.920 are actively trying to weaken the Iranian government, the Iranian regime. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.680 They want a change in who is governing that country 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.320 because of its obvious threat that has taken place over 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.319 decades towards Israel. The United States has said that they 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.440 are not involved in the regime change like they were 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.400 in Afghanistan with the Taliban, like they were with Saddam 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:59.560 Hussein in Iraq, because the process of regime change, because 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.080 it's not just about killing the leaders, it's the next 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.040 level who want to be the leaders or the after decades, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.480 many many, many layers that exist that have been keeping 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:14.920 the Iranian population down for decades. That process is one 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:16.440 that is going to take years. It's one that the 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.520 Israelis have said that they are committed to doing, and 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.640 we now start to see the beginning of the harder 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.280 pivot towards that. All of that putting the pressure on 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.760 the Iranian government. The theory being that more pressure on 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.080 the Iranian government, the reduction in their ability to control 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.360 their people means if the people want to there's an 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:42.320 opportunity for a revolution to remove those people. Now, a 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.600 former royal family from decades ago that had ruled does 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.679 have members of its family across Europe. One of them 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.520 is expected to speak in the next little while. I 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.959 wouldn't imagine around his plan to planning to go back 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.320 to a monarchy anytime soon. But there are other voices 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.160 with different alternatives as opposed to the people who are 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.440 running around as we speak. But what a couple of 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.760 hours it has been, continues to be, and literally every 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.400 time we get refresh on all of our sources here, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.440 there's more information to tell you. So of course we 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.240 will pass all of that onto you as we go. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:19.160 How Iran reacts is a key question. It is, frankly 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.760 the key question because as we've spoken about before, there's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.440 an awful lot of American troops, particularly in places like Kuwait, 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.480 which are literally just the other side of a very 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.560 small waterway from Iran. The weapons that can travel all 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.160 the way to Israel are not required. Obviously, you need 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.200 far less intense in terms of ballistic missiles to be 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:48.960 able to travel significant distances but any attack on US troops, well, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.320 that is the beginning of something very, very significant. The 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.800 expectation is that the warnings from the United States is 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.040 if you do one thing to one soldier, then you 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.280 are going to pay a much bigger price than you 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:05.320 currently have. So there's all sorts of conversation about what 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.200 they may well get involved with. Here's some of the 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:13.800 potential conversations about how Iran could respond, not just going 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.680 after American installations, but potentially everything to do from world 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.800 trade to some terrible things which could involve terrorism. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.760 They can go after US embassies and military outposts in 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.839 the Middle East. They can try to go after oil 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:35.160 installations throughout the Persian Gulf, block major trade routes like 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.560 the trade of Homers. They could try to rain down 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.160 more missiles on top of Israel. The problem they have 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.080 is that many of these options are like the tactical 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.160 equivalent of a suicide bombing. They can do a lot 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.240 of damage to their adversaries, but they may not survive 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:50.920 that blowback. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.640 And also about the timing. Now we know that there 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:01.400 was some speculation that the amount of enriched uranium was 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.679 a key factor in when the United States decided to 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:09.080 get involved as it has. Also the scaling up that 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.960 Israel has been involved with for the past couple of weeks. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.480 Also the timing of these things well, as you know, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.920 Donald Trump left the G seven meeting on day one 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.760 what was supposed to be a two day meeting, and 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.600 we're learning via American media tonight that there was a 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.320 threat which Iran had made to the United States, which 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.840 meant that was the reason the President left and started 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.920 to move in the direction that ultimately resulted in Operation 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:37.920 Midnight Hammer. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.040 Just then that Iran directly threatened America. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.880 Time today at NBC News has learned that message from 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.200 Iran was conveyed the President Trump by an intermediary during 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.560 last week's G seventh summit, warring the President if he 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.560 launched air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities, Iran could respond 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.400 by unleashing terrorist attacks on the US by activating sleeper 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.199 sells it has inside this country, according to US officials, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.199 all as we learn new details about those historic strikes. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:15.640 So pretty extraordinary here that Iran openly saying that they would, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.760 and we know that they have got many a proxy Mini, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.720 a connection to al Kaider, to the whoth is to 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.320 a whole collection of other groups that they may well 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.760 have infiltrated the United States recently or over a long 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.880 period of time, and an attack on the homeland in 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.560 the United States, of course, the first significant attack since 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.240 what happened in Pennsylvania, Washington, DC, and in New York 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.800 back on nine to eleven, two thousand and one, the 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.320 best part of now twenty five years ago. Well, that 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.600 was seemingly the key moment when things certainly turned against 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.320 Iran from the United States, and the United States took 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.520 the action that it did. Now amazingly, there are people 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.000 who are getting a pretty reasonable run in the Australian 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.320 media who are trying to play orange Man, bad, orange Man, criminal, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.920 Orange Man brings us to the brink of World War III, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.960 not paying any attention whatsoever that the person that metaphorically 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.079 the nation they were sitting opposite on the table were 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.640 threatening terrorist attacks inside the United States, the one that 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.440 is threatening to close down a third of the world's oil, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:30.360 that moves by ship, one that still has always wanted 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.520 a nuclear bomb in order to blow another country off 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.680 the face of the map. Again, you can have a 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.640 whole series of opinions about a whole series of things 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.360 that have taken place over the past couple of years 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.920 or many decades, but unbelievably. Jeffrey Robinson, of course, the 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.600 left wing lawyer writing I believe from the United Kingdom 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.040 but who knows, wrote today that Trump's rap sheet is 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.480 so long, but this may be his worst crime. Now again, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.000 I have my misgivings about how deep things have gone, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.640 particularly in places like Gaza, about what proportionality has been. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.200 But as I've said, you have to be able to 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.760 be able to see the multiple parts of all of 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.239 this and to actually have a look at the scenario 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.320 of why America got involved to do what they did 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.560 to a country that threatened them directly or pretty obvious 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.080 to me why the president had to act, but Orange 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.000 Man bad all the rest of it here well, of 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:35.080 course ludicrous. But the bit that's really worth talking about 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.480 tonight and taking a couple of minutes to understand here 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.240 is you would have thought by now and those of 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.960 us that have taken a cursory interest in the Middle East. Again, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.920 I do not pretend to be a Middle East expert. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.480 I like you and somebody who has just heard and 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.239 seen the stories and seen many things over many decades, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.680 all right, We're going to try to talk to lots 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.640 of people, lots of different perspectives. We know that there 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.280 are diaspora of many any countries that are in this country. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.600 We know that there are Lebanese, both Christian and Muslim 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.960 people that are here who care about what has happened 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.240 in a country that their family may will have been from, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.360 the same with Palestine, the same with the West Bank, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.080 the same which of course is part of as well 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.560 as what's been taking place, and the Israelian Jewish community 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.160 here as well as there is an Iranian diaspora in Australia. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.640 In fact, on the North Shore of Sydney is one 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:37.120 of the strongest of the Iranian communities here. And again 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.400 for those that are half listening, and I just need 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.800 to say this because there are bad actors who will 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.160 try to misinterpret news coverage and when we discuss these 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.280 things that nobody is talking about the citizens of any 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.760 of these countries. It is about the governments of these countries. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.840 Which brings us now to the fact that many of 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.280 us have thought that if something like this had happened, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.960 that say Iran and Israel start to tension things up, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.840 then presumably it triggers another country, another country, another country, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.800 and there are more in the Arab nations that clearly 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.280 had antagonistic, if not outright hostile opinions of Israel, and 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.879 that we would be a lot further down a pretty 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.200 difficult track. Frankly, that more war will have been broken out, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.600 but for a lot of different reasons. Iran may well 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.119 have some verbal support from some of its neighbors, but 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.800 it's not getting any military support. So it is fascinating 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.400 to see that the country that they have run off 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.240 to is one that they signed a defense packed with 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.200 only in January of this year, and that is Russia. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.960 The Foreign minister who was speaking last night giving the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:45.440 first major public response from Iran well has now appeared 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.920 in front of officials in Russia. Iran has little choice 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.120 but to retaliate against the US as Russia faces an 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:59.080 urgent decision now about how to back Tehran. Now. Unlike 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.480 a scenario so say, like the ANSAs Treaty that if 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.040 someone attacks America, Australia goes to help, and if someone 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.160 attacks Australia, America comes to help. That's a written deal. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.320 The deal between Iran and Russia is a little looser. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:20.800 It's to supply weapons. It's to supply some form of intelligence, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.720 but it is not If one of those nations is hit, 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.800 then the other one automatically joins them and go to 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:32.760 war against whoever attacked them. Instead, there is this ability 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.800 for them to run and go and talk to the 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.040 Russian officials. Now we are getting a little bit of 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.399 tape out of the meeting. Cameras have been booted in 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.600 the past half an hour or so. But of the 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.879 introductory comments that you often see between the leaders, we 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.600 have no translation about the Russian side of things. But 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.600 this is what the Iranians were saying to the people 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.080 who they hope will come and help them. And when 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:57.479 I tell you about some of the help that might 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.560 be on offer. This is a very very very important 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:07.240 meeting happening as we speak in Russia, a. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:12.040 Close contact in terms of exchanging our opinion and advice 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:12.640 with each other. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.720 Also worth noting here is the Dimitry Medvedev, who was 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.320 after the first run of Vladimir Putin as president, moved 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:29.720 from essentially swapped and became the president of Russia very briefly, 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.720 while Putin became the Prime Minister. He still is in 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.240 and around the Upper echelons of the Russian government, and 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.879 I hope you're sitting down because he has said that 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.680 countries are now ready to supply Iran with nuclear weapons. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.600 So if the entire point of the past couple of 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.560 days has been about putting a run on the back foot, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.960 forcing them back towards their line in terms of coming 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.960 up with their own weapons, a high ranking Russian official, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.919 as the Iranians are sitting down with the Russians, is 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:11.199 openly talking publicly, releasing statements on social media in his 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.119 own language, on his own account and are believed to 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.920 be verified by international news organizations that don't worry about 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.000 waiting to build a bomb, will give you one. Now, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.359 if the idea here is that that automatically means that 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.560 as soon as you have one of these things, then 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.639 whoever is currently trying to knock over your government like 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.480 Israel with the prisons, the military targets and the airports, 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.560 but presumably the threat of the nuclear bomb would mean 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.080 that stops. But of course if there's any chance of 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.240 one being transferred into the country, well we would imagine 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.840 that any attempt in that transportation would be stopped at 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.000 the very least by the Israeli, but most likely by 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.120 the Americans. If that's a Russian bomb, then you understand 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.600 how the stakes of this can get very quickly out 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.280 of control. Now again, and I'm using lots of words, 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.720 lots of caveats trying to say where things actually are 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.880 is not about where they might go, but just what 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:12.439 people have said to this point. Okay, as for what 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.840 that Russian ally had said, the former Russian president, can 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.520 we put to the aea. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.600 the deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia so 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.840 is still an active player, said on Sunday that President 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.879 Donald Trump had pushed the US into another war and 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:33.040 the countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:38.360 own nucular warheads. Medvedev made the remarks on telegram outlining 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.200 his views on what the Trump administration strikes on Iranian 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:48.480 nuclear facilities would lead to moving forward again, the enrichment 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:52.760 of nuclear material and now we can say it outright, 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.439 the future production of nuclear weapons will continue. So firstly, 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.920 he is confirming that what the Iranians were always doing 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.640 was building a bomb. Secondly, he goes on to say 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.400 here that a number of countries are ready to directly 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.200 supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads, meaning you won't 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.280 have to build them, you won't have to enrich the uranium. 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:20.080 They will give them to Iran. Now, as for Donald Trump, again, 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.000 it is about twenty two minutes past seven o'clock in 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.680 the morning. We know that Trump likes to get up early. 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.719 We're keeping an eye on his social media feeds. If 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.840 he says something, will give you a read out of 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:32.520 that in a second. Of what I'm able to see 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.440 about what has been released by the White House in 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.520 the past. Tool. Yeah, just before we came on here 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.880 about twenty five minutes ago, is that the only public 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:46.200 meetings is there might be something inside the Oval Office 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.840 within the next couple of hours, but the only definite 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.240 thing that is on his schedule is a one pm 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.480 Washington time. So again many hours from now, in the 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.760 middle of our night, you'll hear the update in the morning, 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.200 but that is going to be with the National Security team. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.800 Stand there is media that has been assigned and standing 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.080 by to go into the Oval Office if anything is 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.800 to be said. Otherwise, we all wait and see what happens. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.679 Tell then the Israeli strikes, they happen, and they are 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:15.800 happening now further to the west in Iran, where, among 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.760 other things, that prison has been attacked, meaning political prisoners 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:22.639 are now free. They are going after much of the 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.160 government infrastructure, and on top of that, Iran is trying 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.160 to throw something back the way of Israel, which brings 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.040 us to little old Australia and the performance of the 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.440