Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray.
Speaker 2: Live Good evening, nine o'clock on the East coast of Australia.
Speaker 2: It is as we speak, when the sun starts to
Speaker 2: rise in Washington, DC, when we will start to hear
Speaker 2: again from the President of the United States, who has
Speaker 2: had plenty to say on his social media platforms, as
Speaker 2: well as a lot of action which is happening in
Speaker 2: and around the Middle East where it is two o'clock
Speaker 2: right now in Israel, where bombs from Iran have been landing.
Speaker 2: Despite the Iron Dome, some have made it through. Some
Speaker 2: of the explosions pretty significant thankfully. As we discussed last
Speaker 2: on on the program, adequate warning means most people end
Speaker 2: up in a bomb shelter. Let's focus on Iran, though,
Speaker 2: because there is a fair bit happening there right now.
Speaker 2: In fact, in the past hour there has been major
Speaker 2: operations and I'll tell you some of the targets that
Speaker 2: have been hit. The local time there is one thirty
Speaker 2: in the afternoon. We've also got an idea of what
Speaker 2: is happening in Europe with the bosses of the International
Speaker 2: Tomic Energy Authority, those people on the behalf of the
Speaker 2: United nations have actually got some indication about what damage
Speaker 2: has been done in the past couple of days. We'll
Speaker 2: get to that in a moment or two's time. And
Speaker 2: the Iranians a meeting in Moscow hoping for some help
Speaker 2: from Vladimir Putin, a former Russian prime minister and Russian president,
Speaker 2: has actually had putting you to say on top of
Speaker 2: what might come out of that conversation. So let me
Speaker 2: bring you up to date. A lot has happened even
Speaker 2: in the past couple of hours. Now, put simply, the
Speaker 2: reason I tell you all of those times is primetime
Speaker 2: on Sky News, and certainly towards this time of primetime
Speaker 2: is when you're going to start to hear stuff out
Speaker 2: of the United States. We seem to be right at
Speaker 2: the height of when things happen during the daytime in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, and as I said, you can start
Speaker 2: to look your way around the globe. So regardless of
Speaker 2: what you may hear in the morning, which would be
Speaker 2: a form of an update, if you are interested in
Speaker 2: following every little move of this thing, make sure you're
Speaker 2: checking in with Sky News Primetime again at the top
Speaker 2: of each show. For the few days, I'll try to
Speaker 2: tell you what has happened in the past couple of hours,
Speaker 2: not just react to what has happened in the past
Speaker 2: twenty four hours. Okay, so let's get on with this.
Speaker 2: So as we speak, the United Nations and via their
Speaker 2: Weapons Inspectors, are now starting to give us a little
Speaker 2: bit of an insight into how much damage was done
Speaker 2: by the American hit on Iran. Now, you know, the
Speaker 2: past twenty four to thirty six hours, there's been great
Speaker 2: claims made by the President of the United States and
Speaker 2: military officials that of the three different sites that they hit,
Speaker 2: there has been significant damage done to the Iranian nuclear operation.
Speaker 2: The Iranian said that they because they feared that things
Speaker 2: were coming, some of these sites may well have been
Speaker 2: emptied out. So there's a lot of bluster, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of bs, there's a lot of sizzle, but there's
Speaker 2: also a lot of steak when it comes to this story.
Speaker 2: So again I'll try to explain things and try to
Speaker 2: keep an eye on lots of moving parts here. So
Speaker 2: let's have a look here at the announcement which was
Speaker 2: made by the essentially United Nations and their Weapons Inspectors.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to take a little bit of time
Speaker 2: to play this for you. Because the three main sites,
Speaker 2: including of course the one that was underground and the
Speaker 2: two other sites, all hit within that extraordinary hour or
Speaker 2: so in the middle of the night, about between two
Speaker 2: and three am local time in Iran. Well, remember we
Speaker 2: had to wait a couple of days to find out
Speaker 2: what the battle damage assessments were going to be. The
Speaker 2: Americans are expected to give us another insight into that,
Speaker 2: perhaps as early as the next couple of hours, but
Speaker 2: in a midpoint between the early announcements, the bluster that
Speaker 2: may will have come out of America about how decisive
Speaker 2: this is, well, what is actually happening and is there
Speaker 2: any fallout because obviously, if you're hitting enriched uranium, the
Speaker 2: possibility for poisons to make it end of the air
Speaker 2: and wins to move it around local populations becomes an issue.
Speaker 2: But here's literally freeh of the press. What's just been
Speaker 2: said by the UN.
Speaker 3: This time, No one, including the IEA, is in opposition
Speaker 3: to have fully assessed the underground damage at four Doux.
Speaker 3: Given the explosive payload utilized and the extreme vibration sensitive
Speaker 3: nature of centrifuges, very significant damage is to have occurred,
Speaker 3: is expected to have occurred at the Isfahan nuclear side,
Speaker 3: additional buildings were hit, with the US confirming their use
Speaker 3: of cruise missiles. Affected buildings include some related to the
Speaker 3: uranium conversion process. Also at this site, entrances to tunnels
Speaker 3: used for the storage of enriched material appear to have
Speaker 3: been hit. At the Nathan's Enrichment site, the fuel enrichment
Speaker 3: plunt was hit, with the US confirming that it uced
Speaker 3: round penetraating munitions.
Speaker 2: So at this stage there seems to be significant damage.
Speaker 2: Remember the President was saying that it was a bulls
Speaker 2: eye hear total annihilation. The Uranians have said, yes, thanks
Speaker 2: for the effort. There is some damage, but we may
Speaker 2: well have other facilities in other places. Again where the
Speaker 2: truth lies. It does take a couple of days to
Speaker 2: get there. And the reason we didn't show you last night,
Speaker 2: and I've held off showing you some of those satellite
Speaker 2: images was because they simply weren't detailed enough. And again,
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot on social media. I know
Speaker 2: there's a lot on clickbait media, but we do our
Speaker 2: best to verify as much as possible to pull it
Speaker 2: all together for you at the end of the night,
Speaker 2: which we'll be doing for the next couple of days now.
Speaker 2: Also in the past hour, the Israeli Defense Forces have
Speaker 2: announced that they are stepping up the war against Iran
Speaker 2: and they are now starting to move from the military
Speaker 2: targets to the regime targets. The regime targets put simply,
Speaker 2: are the government the capacity for the Iranian government to
Speaker 2: stay in place. The Israeli Defense Forces in the last
Speaker 2: hour have put out a statement saying that they have
Speaker 2: struck six regime airports across western, central, and eastern Iran.
Speaker 2: They've hit runways, underground hangars, refueling aircraft as well as
Speaker 2: a series of jets. The destroyed aircraft were meant to
Speaker 2: stop the IAF jets put simply again, trying to push
Speaker 2: back against Israeli, United States any other jets that may
Speaker 2: well be moving into the area. The IAF impaired takeoff
Speaker 2: capabilities from these airports, as well as the Iranian military's
Speaker 2: ability to operate its air force from them. So remember,
Speaker 2: part of how we've got where we've gotten the past
Speaker 2: week is because the ability of Iran to launch anything
Speaker 2: but and missile has been deeply knocked back. An idea
Speaker 2: of some of the places that have been hit as
Speaker 2: you can see multiple towards the west of the country
Speaker 2: or the left of your screen, we know around Tehran,
Speaker 2: but there's a little more detail about one of the
Speaker 2: things they've hit in the past hour, as well as
Speaker 2: the center of the country, and then of course to
Speaker 2: the east or the right hand side of your screen. Now,
Speaker 2: traditionally the further to the left of your screen, the
Speaker 2: closer things are to Israel. Obviously the further away, the
Speaker 2: closer we start to get into other countries, including countries
Speaker 2: like Pakistan which do share much and some of the
Speaker 2: border here. One of the things that has been hit
Speaker 2: in the past hour is a prison. I understand that
Speaker 2: the prison is in central Tehran. Now, the plan was
Speaker 2: not to level the prison to kill the prisoners. Instead,
Speaker 2: the Israeli defense forces have released some footage in the
Speaker 2: past couple of minutes. Will turn that around for you
Speaker 2: when we can. They've done is they're blown the doors
Speaker 2: off the prison because the prison is apparently where many
Speaker 2: political prisoners I enemies of the regime would be in place.
Speaker 2: Great work from our team have turned that around very quickly. Again,
Speaker 2: you can see the doors of a notorious prison where
Speaker 2: political prisoners are being held. Has been blown off by
Speaker 2: the Israelis. The Israelis, who for the past week have
Speaker 2: been focused on military targets, are now starting to move
Speaker 2: towards what they referred to as regime targets. Now they
Speaker 2: are actively trying to weaken the Iranian government, the Iranian regime.
Speaker 2: They want a change in who is governing that country
Speaker 2: because of its obvious threat that has taken place over
Speaker 2: decades towards Israel. The United States has said that they
Speaker 2: are not involved in the regime change like they were
Speaker 2: in Afghanistan with the Taliban, like they were with Saddam
Speaker 2: Hussein in Iraq, because the process of regime change, because
Speaker 2: it's not just about killing the leaders, it's the next
Speaker 2: level who want to be the leaders or the after decades,
Speaker 2: many many, many layers that exist that have been keeping
Speaker 2: the Iranian population down for decades. That process is one
Speaker 2: that is going to take years. It's one that the
Speaker 2: Israelis have said that they are committed to doing, and
Speaker 2: we now start to see the beginning of the harder
Speaker 2: pivot towards that. All of that putting the pressure on
Speaker 2: the Iranian government. The theory being that more pressure on
Speaker 2: the Iranian government, the reduction in their ability to control
Speaker 2: their people means if the people want to there's an
Speaker 2: opportunity for a revolution to remove those people. Now, a
Speaker 2: former royal family from decades ago that had ruled does
Speaker 2: have members of its family across Europe. One of them
Speaker 2: is expected to speak in the next little while. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't imagine around his plan to planning to go back
Speaker 2: to a monarchy anytime soon. But there are other voices
Speaker 2: with different alternatives as opposed to the people who are
Speaker 2: running around as we speak. But what a couple of
Speaker 2: hours it has been, continues to be, and literally every
Speaker 2: time we get refresh on all of our sources here,
Speaker 2: there's more information to tell you. So of course we
Speaker 2: will pass all of that onto you as we go.
Speaker 2: How Iran reacts is a key question. It is, frankly
Speaker 2: the key question because as we've spoken about before, there's
Speaker 2: an awful lot of American troops, particularly in places like Kuwait,
Speaker 2: which are literally just the other side of a very
Speaker 2: small waterway from Iran. The weapons that can travel all
Speaker 2: the way to Israel are not required. Obviously, you need
Speaker 2: far less intense in terms of ballistic missiles to be
Speaker 2: able to travel significant distances but any attack on US troops, well,
Speaker 2: that is the beginning of something very, very significant. The
Speaker 2: expectation is that the warnings from the United States is
Speaker 2: if you do one thing to one soldier, then you
Speaker 2: are going to pay a much bigger price than you
Speaker 2: currently have. So there's all sorts of conversation about what
Speaker 2: they may well get involved with. Here's some of the
Speaker 2: potential conversations about how Iran could respond, not just going
Speaker 2: after American installations, but potentially everything to do from world
Speaker 2: trade to some terrible things which could involve terrorism.
Speaker 4: They can go after US embassies and military outposts in
Speaker 4: the Middle East. They can try to go after oil
Speaker 4: installations throughout the Persian Gulf, block major trade routes like
Speaker 4: the trade of Homers. They could try to rain down
Speaker 4: more missiles on top of Israel. The problem they have
Speaker 4: is that many of these options are like the tactical
Speaker 4: equivalent of a suicide bombing. They can do a lot
Speaker 4: of damage to their adversaries, but they may not survive
Speaker 4: that blowback.
Speaker 2: And also about the timing. Now we know that there
Speaker 2: was some speculation that the amount of enriched uranium was
Speaker 2: a key factor in when the United States decided to
Speaker 2: get involved as it has. Also the scaling up that
Speaker 2: Israel has been involved with for the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Also the timing of these things well, as you know,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump left the G seven meeting on day one
Speaker 2: what was supposed to be a two day meeting, and
Speaker 2: we're learning via American media tonight that there was a
Speaker 2: threat which Iran had made to the United States, which
Speaker 2: meant that was the reason the President left and started
Speaker 2: to move in the direction that ultimately resulted in Operation
Speaker 2: Midnight Hammer.
Speaker 1: Just then that Iran directly threatened America.
Speaker 5: Time today at NBC News has learned that message from
Speaker 5: Iran was conveyed the President Trump by an intermediary during
Speaker 5: last week's G seventh summit, warring the President if he
Speaker 5: launched air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities, Iran could respond
Speaker 5: by unleashing terrorist attacks on the US by activating sleeper
Speaker 5: sells it has inside this country, according to US officials,
Speaker 5: all as we learn new details about those historic strikes.
Speaker 2: So pretty extraordinary here that Iran openly saying that they would,
Speaker 2: and we know that they have got many a proxy Mini,
Speaker 2: a connection to al Kaider, to the whoth is to
Speaker 2: a whole collection of other groups that they may well
Speaker 2: have infiltrated the United States recently or over a long
Speaker 2: period of time, and an attack on the homeland in
Speaker 2: the United States, of course, the first significant attack since
Speaker 2: what happened in Pennsylvania, Washington, DC, and in New York
Speaker 2: back on nine to eleven, two thousand and one, the
Speaker 2: best part of now twenty five years ago. Well, that
Speaker 2: was seemingly the key moment when things certainly turned against
Speaker 2: Iran from the United States, and the United States took
Speaker 2: the action that it did. Now amazingly, there are people
Speaker 2: who are getting a pretty reasonable run in the Australian
Speaker 2: media who are trying to play orange Man, bad, orange Man, criminal,
Speaker 2: Orange Man brings us to the brink of World War III,
Speaker 2: not paying any attention whatsoever that the person that metaphorically
Speaker 2: the nation they were sitting opposite on the table were
Speaker 2: threatening terrorist attacks inside the United States, the one that
Speaker 2: is threatening to close down a third of the world's oil,
Speaker 2: that moves by ship, one that still has always wanted
Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb in order to blow another country off
Speaker 2: the face of the map. Again, you can have a
Speaker 2: whole series of opinions about a whole series of things
Speaker 2: that have taken place over the past couple of years
Speaker 2: or many decades, but unbelievably. Jeffrey Robinson, of course, the
Speaker 2: left wing lawyer writing I believe from the United Kingdom
Speaker 2: but who knows, wrote today that Trump's rap sheet is
Speaker 2: so long, but this may be his worst crime. Now again,
Speaker 2: I have my misgivings about how deep things have gone,
Speaker 2: particularly in places like Gaza, about what proportionality has been.
Speaker 2: But as I've said, you have to be able to
Speaker 2: be able to see the multiple parts of all of
Speaker 2: this and to actually have a look at the scenario
Speaker 2: of why America got involved to do what they did
Speaker 2: to a country that threatened them directly or pretty obvious
Speaker 2: to me why the president had to act, but Orange
Speaker 2: Man bad all the rest of it here well, of
Speaker 2: course ludicrous. But the bit that's really worth talking about
Speaker 2: tonight and taking a couple of minutes to understand here
Speaker 2: is you would have thought by now and those of
Speaker 2: us that have taken a cursory interest in the Middle East. Again,
Speaker 2: I do not pretend to be a Middle East expert.
Speaker 2: I like you and somebody who has just heard and
Speaker 2: seen the stories and seen many things over many decades,
Speaker 2: all right, We're going to try to talk to lots
Speaker 2: of people, lots of different perspectives. We know that there
Speaker 2: are diaspora of many any countries that are in this country.
Speaker 2: We know that there are Lebanese, both Christian and Muslim
Speaker 2: people that are here who care about what has happened
Speaker 2: in a country that their family may will have been from,
Speaker 2: the same with Palestine, the same with the West Bank,
Speaker 2: the same which of course is part of as well
Speaker 2: as what's been taking place, and the Israelian Jewish community
Speaker 2: here as well as there is an Iranian diaspora in Australia.
Speaker 2: In fact, on the North Shore of Sydney is one
Speaker 2: of the strongest of the Iranian communities here. And again
Speaker 2: for those that are half listening, and I just need
Speaker 2: to say this because there are bad actors who will
Speaker 2: try to misinterpret news coverage and when we discuss these
Speaker 2: things that nobody is talking about the citizens of any
Speaker 2: of these countries. It is about the governments of these countries.
Speaker 2: Which brings us now to the fact that many of
Speaker 2: us have thought that if something like this had happened,
Speaker 2: that say Iran and Israel start to tension things up,
Speaker 2: then presumably it triggers another country, another country, another country,
Speaker 2: and there are more in the Arab nations that clearly
Speaker 2: had antagonistic, if not outright hostile opinions of Israel, and
Speaker 2: that we would be a lot further down a pretty
Speaker 2: difficult track. Frankly, that more war will have been broken out,
Speaker 2: but for a lot of different reasons. Iran may well
Speaker 2: have some verbal support from some of its neighbors, but
Speaker 2: it's not getting any military support. So it is fascinating
Speaker 2: to see that the country that they have run off
Speaker 2: to is one that they signed a defense packed with
Speaker 2: only in January of this year, and that is Russia.
Speaker 2: The Foreign minister who was speaking last night giving the
Speaker 2: first major public response from Iran well has now appeared
Speaker 2: in front of officials in Russia. Iran has little choice
Speaker 2: but to retaliate against the US as Russia faces an
Speaker 2: urgent decision now about how to back Tehran. Now. Unlike
Speaker 2: a scenario so say, like the ANSAs Treaty that if
Speaker 2: someone attacks America, Australia goes to help, and if someone
Speaker 2: attacks Australia, America comes to help. That's a written deal.
Speaker 2: The deal between Iran and Russia is a little looser.
Speaker 2: It's to supply weapons. It's to supply some form of intelligence,
Speaker 2: but it is not If one of those nations is hit,
Speaker 2: then the other one automatically joins them and go to
Speaker 2: war against whoever attacked them. Instead, there is this ability
Speaker 2: for them to run and go and talk to the
Speaker 2: Russian officials. Now we are getting a little bit of
Speaker 2: tape out of the meeting. Cameras have been booted in
Speaker 2: the past half an hour or so. But of the
Speaker 2: introductory comments that you often see between the leaders, we
Speaker 2: have no translation about the Russian side of things. But
Speaker 2: this is what the Iranians were saying to the people
Speaker 2: who they hope will come and help them. And when
Speaker 2: I tell you about some of the help that might
Speaker 2: be on offer. This is a very very very important
Speaker 2: meeting happening as we speak in Russia, a.
Speaker 4: Close contact in terms of exchanging our opinion and advice
Speaker 4: with each other.
Speaker 2: Also worth noting here is the Dimitry Medvedev, who was
Speaker 2: after the first run of Vladimir Putin as president, moved
Speaker 2: from essentially swapped and became the president of Russia very briefly,
Speaker 2: while Putin became the Prime Minister. He still is in
Speaker 2: and around the Upper echelons of the Russian government, and
Speaker 2: I hope you're sitting down because he has said that
Speaker 2: countries are now ready to supply Iran with nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: So if the entire point of the past couple of
Speaker 2: days has been about putting a run on the back foot,
Speaker 2: forcing them back towards their line in terms of coming
Speaker 2: up with their own weapons, a high ranking Russian official,
Speaker 2: as the Iranians are sitting down with the Russians, is
Speaker 2: openly talking publicly, releasing statements on social media in his
Speaker 2: own language, on his own account and are believed to
Speaker 2: be verified by international news organizations that don't worry about
Speaker 2: waiting to build a bomb, will give you one. Now,
Speaker 2: if the idea here is that that automatically means that
Speaker 2: as soon as you have one of these things, then
Speaker 2: whoever is currently trying to knock over your government like
Speaker 2: Israel with the prisons, the military targets and the airports,
Speaker 2: but presumably the threat of the nuclear bomb would mean
Speaker 2: that stops. But of course if there's any chance of
Speaker 2: one being transferred into the country, well we would imagine
Speaker 2: that any attempt in that transportation would be stopped at
Speaker 2: the very least by the Israeli, but most likely by
Speaker 2: the Americans. If that's a Russian bomb, then you understand
Speaker 2: how the stakes of this can get very quickly out
Speaker 2: of control. Now again, and I'm using lots of words,
Speaker 2: lots of caveats trying to say where things actually are
Speaker 2: is not about where they might go, but just what
Speaker 2: people have said to this point. Okay, as for what
Speaker 2: that Russian ally had said, the former Russian president, can
Speaker 2: we put to the aea. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev,
Speaker 2: the deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia so
Speaker 2: is still an active player, said on Sunday that President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump had pushed the US into another war and
Speaker 2: the countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their
Speaker 2: own nucular warheads. Medvedev made the remarks on telegram outlining
Speaker 2: his views on what the Trump administration strikes on Iranian
Speaker 2: nuclear facilities would lead to moving forward again, the enrichment
Speaker 2: of nuclear material and now we can say it outright,
Speaker 2: the future production of nuclear weapons will continue. So firstly,
Speaker 2: he is confirming that what the Iranians were always doing
Speaker 2: was building a bomb. Secondly, he goes on to say
Speaker 2: here that a number of countries are ready to directly
Speaker 2: supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads, meaning you won't
Speaker 2: have to build them, you won't have to enrich the uranium.
Speaker 2: They will give them to Iran. Now, as for Donald Trump, again,
Speaker 2: it is about twenty two minutes past seven o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning. We know that Trump likes to get up early.
Speaker 2: We're keeping an eye on his social media feeds. If
Speaker 2: he says something, will give you a read out of
Speaker 2: that in a second. Of what I'm able to see
Speaker 2: about what has been released by the White House in
Speaker 2: the past. Tool. Yeah, just before we came on here
Speaker 2: about twenty five minutes ago, is that the only public
Speaker 2: meetings is there might be something inside the Oval Office
Speaker 2: within the next couple of hours, but the only definite
Speaker 2: thing that is on his schedule is a one pm
Speaker 2: Washington time. So again many hours from now, in the
Speaker 2: middle of our night, you'll hear the update in the morning,
Speaker 2: but that is going to be with the National Security team.
Speaker 2: Stand there is media that has been assigned and standing
Speaker 2: by to go into the Oval Office if anything is
Speaker 2: to be said. Otherwise, we all wait and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Tell then the Israeli strikes, they happen, and they are
Speaker 2: happening now further to the west in Iran, where, among
Speaker 2: other things, that prison has been attacked, meaning political prisoners
Speaker 2: are now free. They are going after much of the
Speaker 2: government infrastructure, and on top of that, Iran is trying
Speaker 2: to throw something back the way of Israel, which brings
Speaker 2: us to little old Australia and the performance of the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister which was ridiculous today
Speaker 2: in Canberra. Now, firstly, I couldn't believe I woke up
Speaker 2: to a headline this morning that said Prime Minister Anthony
Speaker 2: Abernezi convence National Security Committee twenty four hours after twenty
Speaker 2: four hours after the strike on Iran. Now, remember this
Speaker 2: is not our war was the initial position. I don't
Speaker 2: disagree with that position. But still they've done everything they
Speaker 2: can to go nowhere near any sort of approval whatsoever
Speaker 2: of the United States President or what the United States
Speaker 2: has done. But they were forced into it because, as
Speaker 2: I said, you can have a view about the north
Speaker 2: of Israel, what's happening in Israel, what's happening to the south.
Speaker 2: You can have a view about America and its foreign
Speaker 2: policy over decades and decades. You can have a view
Speaker 2: about Iran, about Russia its connections, but this is complicated
Speaker 2: and there can be many feelings in many opinions at
Speaker 2: many times. But for me, it's a slam dunk, and
Speaker 2: it's obvious they were building a bomb, as Russia has
Speaker 2: now confirmed, building a bomb with the express purpose of
Speaker 2: wiping Israel and its citizens off the map. America had
Speaker 2: the technology to stop it, so they did. It's exactly
Speaker 2: what they should have done, and it would have been
Speaker 2: pretty obvious that by this time last night we should
Speaker 2: have been talking about a clear statement of support from
Speaker 2: the Australian Prime Minister. But no, no, we've got to check.
Speaker 2: We've got to check if I mildly say anything. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: the freshly re elected ninety plus member leader of the
Speaker 2: Labor Party get himself into some sort of rhetorical trouble.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but this took way too long,
Speaker 2: and in many ways it's too little, too late, because
Speaker 2: of course, within half a nano second, yes, we agree
Speaker 2: they did the right thing. The world is a safer place.
Speaker 2: We're straightway back to the talk of can everyone just
Speaker 2: step back and take a step down. The world has
Speaker 2: long agreed that Iran cannot be allowed to get a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon and we support action to prevent that. But
Speaker 2: that is what this is again, that de escalation. That's
Speaker 2: the message from our Foreign minister. This was after a
Speaker 2: meeting twenty four hours after we had heard that the
Speaker 2: bomb had dropped on Iran.
Speaker 1: We do not want to see escalation.
Speaker 2: We do call for diplomacy, de escalation and di log
Speaker 2: because the world does not want to see a full
Speaker 2: scale war in the Middle At a rare moment where
Speaker 2: the camp of press gallery was not going to let
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister just go from one to one to
Speaker 2: change the subject, they had one question and many times
Speaker 2: over Australia is through UCAS in a partnership of not
Speaker 2: just military technology but intelligence with the United States, the
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, also the Five Eyes, the Quad. We are
Speaker 2: very much part of the circle of nations that do
Speaker 2: share information. So were we told before the bomb dropped?
Speaker 6: The PM Starmer noted that his government was given prior
Speaker 6: warning that the US action in Iran, I think quite
Speaker 6: shortly before it took place, but it was given warning.
Speaker 6: Was ours?
Speaker 4: Was your government lived prior for the table?
Speaker 2: PM?
Speaker 1: You won't break that is that this was un electual.
Speaker 2: Now he just would not answer the question. So eventually
Speaker 2: this this was this The Prime Minister of Australia took
Speaker 2: twenty four hours to come out to have a meeting,
Speaker 2: and then again twenty four hours and many hours on
Speaker 2: from when you should have had a response. This is
Speaker 2: what happened when he wouldn't and or couldn't answer a question.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break because we will
Speaker 2: be discussing the Australian part of this while keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on everything that is taking place as we speak.
Speaker 2: A meeting in Moscow, bomb's falling in Iran, bomb's falling
Speaker 2: in Israel, and a president who you know does not
Speaker 2: want to go quietly off a scene which he believes
Speaker 2: is a defining one of his presidency. We will move
Speaker 2: and touch on some other news stories around because the
Speaker 2: plan will be to tell you about what is going
Speaker 2: on in Australia, but laser like the number one story
Speaker 2: in the world, for obvious reasons, for obvious consequences. We
Speaker 2: will remain on top of that as much as we
Speaker 2: can tonight, tomorrow and every night until we start to
Speaker 2: know exactly how much damage has been done and what
Speaker 2: the future may bring. We're in a second Always good
Speaker 2: to talk to Matt Canavan, the Queensland Senator nationals to
Speaker 2: his bootstraps, and he's got a new target when it
Speaker 2: comes to net zero, as well as the wonderful Darren
Speaker 2: Barnett brother from another mother. Normally about Australian issues, and
Speaker 2: we will get to those in a moment or two's time,
Speaker 2: But how can we not talk about the national and
Speaker 2: international things that are happening right now, including the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister and how he's played things here look freshly reelected
Speaker 2: ninety something, see its biggest possible mandate. No one is
Speaker 2: suggesting there's been some huge change in Australia's opinion about
Speaker 2: him and his leadership. But I've got to say, Matt,
Speaker 2: I find it extraordinary that for one of a bit
Speaker 2: of term, the Trump Arrangement syndrome is so deep in
Speaker 2: and around the people who may well talk to the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister or the Prime Minister himself, that they couldn't
Speaker 2: just quickly, you know, Sunday afternoon say yep, job well done. No, no,
Speaker 2: we had to convene a meeting hours after the thing
Speaker 2: had taken place that we didn't hear from them until
Speaker 2: a day after we knew that this had taken place,
Speaker 2: and then they quickly went back to de escalation. What
Speaker 2: did you think of the Prime Minister in pennywont.
Speaker 7: Today, Paul, I just wish I could play poker against
Speaker 7: the PM.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the greatest poker face.
Speaker 7: Even after coming out a day later, he clearly wears
Speaker 7: his reluctance.
Speaker 1: On his face. He's had to.
Speaker 7: I suppose he's been told, I presume behind closed doors,
Speaker 7: that makes you better get out there and say you
Speaker 7: support our greatest ally because of a lot on the
Speaker 7: line for our country if you don't.
Speaker 1: But he seems to be a reluctant supporter of the.
Speaker 7: United States, and I think that's a very dangerous, dangerous
Speaker 7: thing for our country. We've seen the Prime Minister spend
Speaker 7: more time on the China relationship really in his first
Speaker 7: term than he did on the American relationship. And now
Speaker 7: you know, six months Afternald Trump was elected, we still
Speaker 7: haven't had a meeting between this train and Prime Minister
Speaker 7: and Donald Trump. Of course, the last week when the
Speaker 7: meeting fell over, it wasn't all the Prime Minister's fault
Speaker 7: given the circumstances, but it is the prime minister's fault
Speaker 7: that he hasn't tried to go to Washington, DC earlier.
Speaker 7: It's been six months since the election, and you've seen
Speaker 7: a cavalcade of minister of prime ministers so from other
Speaker 7: five eys countries go there and have that personal relationship
Speaker 7: with the President, and unfortunately for our country, we don't.
Speaker 7: And we will probably get onto the implications of this
Speaker 7: particular strike and what's going on in the Middle East.
Speaker 7: But I think one thing that hasn't been remarked enough
Speaker 7: in our own media is the risk to our own
Speaker 7: country of all of this, because if there is a
Speaker 7: greater distraction of the United States in the Middle East,
Speaker 7: they've already moved to carry strike group from the Pacific
Speaker 7: to the Middle East, what does that mean for security
Speaker 7: in our region? And we haven't got a government that's
Speaker 7: really taken a strong focus on our own defense in
Speaker 7: their first term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also while the world to teach is focused
Speaker 2: on this part of the globe being the Middle East,
Speaker 2: we know that obviously other issues inside the Middle East,
Speaker 2: Obviously what's happening in Ukraine, Obviously what may well be
Speaker 2: happening when it comes to further militarization of China. All
Speaker 2: of that can be happening while we're focusing on one
Speaker 2: part of the world at once. Darren, Again, I'd imagine
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt of the Prime Minister is no,
Speaker 2: he wasn't told. Why because we know that the Democrats
Speaker 2: weren't even told in the Senate we were told that
Speaker 2: basically need to know, and obviously the Australian Prime Minister
Speaker 2: perhaps not on need to know, but for some reason
Speaker 2: Prime Minister either couldn't or wouldn't say that today after
Speaker 2: a meeting, after again an urgent meeting, after something had happened.
Speaker 2: It's all a bit odd, but.
Speaker 8: If you're the prime ministers, you don't want the story
Speaker 8: to be Australia are not told, so that ambiguity of
Speaker 8: language was not surprising. But they probably should have got
Speaker 8: their act together a little bit sooner. I think they
Speaker 8: should have probably met National Security Committee, should have met yesterday,
Speaker 8: not today. But in the end, this war was to
Speaker 8: go for quite some time, we think, so I think
Speaker 8: we'll forget about what happened on day one. It's more
Speaker 8: about what happens on day thirty one and day sixty one,
Speaker 8: and let's hope that wiser, cooler heads prevail, But at
Speaker 8: this point in time, we don't know what escalation might
Speaker 8: look like. But one thing that probably will happen there'll
Speaker 8: be a strangle on oil supplies, and that will that
Speaker 8: does impact China. So I think China takes an enormous
Speaker 8: percentage of its oil from Iran, so Straits of Horn moves.
Speaker 8: I think that's going to be the choke point, and
Speaker 8: that's going to be really the catalyst for what happens
Speaker 8: in the next section of this conflict. What does Iran
Speaker 8: decide to do and what happens as a result.
Speaker 2: Look, I've got to say, perhaps it's ourselves included, but
Speaker 2: I've got to say I sort of found it odd
Speaker 2: that one of the people who had public utterances today
Speaker 2: about the consequences of what's happening on the other side
Speaker 2: of the world was, among others, the n erma that
Speaker 2: was out there telling everyone to fill up your tank
Speaker 2: today because who know what's happened in a couple of
Speaker 2: days time. That's why I'm probably going to draw the
Speaker 2: line in terms of the latest and breaking of information here.
Speaker 2: But there is something that say back to that. Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Robertson thing right and Okayed provocateur, left wing lawyer. But
Speaker 2: we see in parts of mainly the left of the
Speaker 2: United States suggesting, oh, you know, this is illegal. He
Speaker 2: could be impeached for this. And again perhaps that delay
Speaker 2: that comes out of places like Australia. I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it, Matt. While you and I might be
Speaker 2: fluent in MAGA, you and I may exchange the odd
Speaker 2: text message about something that has happened deep inside the
Speaker 2: magaverse are time to time. But I also know that
Speaker 2: the majority of Australian people does not have the same
Speaker 2: view that we have about Donald Trump. But that said,
Speaker 2: how is it so so deep for so many that
Speaker 2: they're unable to divorce? You know, every and any action
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's is disastrous with you mean, the country
Speaker 2: that's threatening terrorist attacks has been put on its ass great.
Speaker 7: Well, Paul, Even taking away the particular circumstances of this
Speaker 7: are horrific Iranian regime. Just a couple of presidents ago,
Speaker 7: in Barack Obama, I believe he and his administration bombs
Speaker 7: seven countries, seven countries.
Speaker 1: There was no congressional approval.
Speaker 7: The circumstances around those bombings were very similar to these
Speaker 7: that the world found out after the event for obvious reasons,
Speaker 7: and the president didn't go and seek congression approval.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a new thing, and.
Speaker 7: I'll leave it to other legal experts about whether or
Speaker 7: not under the US Constitution the president should seek congressional approval.
Speaker 7: But clearly Donald Trump's done nothing different than a cavalcader
Speaker 7: presidence before him. They weren't impeached. I don't think he
Speaker 7: will successfully be impeached here either. And then you get
Speaker 7: onto particulars of this Iranian regime. Clearly there is a
Speaker 7: need to try to prevent Iran from seeking or having
Speaker 7: the most terrible of weapons, given their sponsorship of horrific
Speaker 7: terrorist acts in the region, So it is worth trying
Speaker 7: to do this.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: I'm not exactly sure whether this has or we can succeed.
Speaker 7: It's I think that's still an open question, but I
Speaker 7: do think the US administration.
Speaker 1: Deserves marks for trying.
Speaker 7: And now we've got to try and ensure that this
Speaker 7: doesn't blow out to a wider war as well.
Speaker 2: All right, Darren, one last thought on this.
Speaker 8: Of all the things that Trump would be impeached for,
Speaker 8: it ain't going to be this one.
Speaker 2: Please please and again remember to actually be This is
Speaker 2: the whole thing stupidity of the impeachment process. It's two
Speaker 2: thirds of the Senate. As long as they've got half
Speaker 2: or a little over or a little under. It's never
Speaker 2: no team Red Team Blue is going to be booted
Speaker 2: out of office unless it is something unimaginably horrific, which
Speaker 2: I don't imagine is coming anytime soon. All Right, I
Speaker 2: want to squaze in a couple of Australian issues here,
Speaker 2: as well as keeping our eye on everything happening around
Speaker 2: the world. Matt, you have been given the responsibility from
Speaker 2: the nat of actually putting a dollar value on net zero.
Speaker 2: Now you've spoken about it a long time. You've waited
Speaker 2: for this number to come from other people. But it's
Speaker 2: your job. Now. How many bits of Butcher's paper do
Speaker 2: you have and how will you work it out? Well?
Speaker 7: I won't be doing the work myself, Paul, but we'll
Speaker 7: be seeking to try and get to the bottom of
Speaker 7: it with the help of smarter people than me. It's
Speaker 7: really is a travesty that we haven't done this work.
Speaker 7: We've approached this net zero issue with a shoot first,
Speaker 7: asked questions later approach, and that has been as disastrous
Speaker 7: as normal such normally such an approach is by doing this,
Speaker 7: we have shot a number of industries already. We've lost
Speaker 7: our nickel industry, We've lost our eurear industry, it's the
Speaker 7: most important fertilizer. And we've lost our plastics industry. Just
Speaker 7: in the first three years of net zero there's been
Speaker 7: over ten thousand jobs lost across those three industries. And
Speaker 7: they're essential ones. We're essential ones to our economy. And
Speaker 7: so given these geopolitical risks that we've already highlighted, why
Speaker 7: are we deindustrializing our nation when the rest of the
Speaker 7: world is not so? In particular, we should be costing
Speaker 7: a scenario where if we continue to act like we've
Speaker 7: got our head in the sand about what's going on
Speaker 7: everywhere else in the world, how much would that cost
Speaker 7: our country? How much would that cost in terms of jobs,
Speaker 7: in terms of higher power prices, and of course in
Speaker 7: terms of lost industries that are essential to the defense
Speaker 7: of this nation. So look, we'll be trying to do
Speaker 7: that work. Welcome the fact that our leader David Little
Speaker 7: Proud has said we will review our position on net
Speaker 7: zero missions, and it can't come soon enough.
Speaker 2: Darren as a person who's will and truly across the
Speaker 2: parts of the country that's believed there is no price
Speaker 2: that is hire to pay than the potential issues to
Speaker 2: do with the planet and Australia must get rid of
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent of one percent of the
Speaker 2: world's problems. Would you like to suggest match should look
Speaker 2: under particular rocks about where that dollar value could be.
Speaker 8: What I've said before, and I'll say it again very happily,
Speaker 8: the Nationals, particular the people like Senator Canavan Barnaby Joyce,
Speaker 8: have done a very good job of convincing regional Australia
Speaker 8: that renewables is not in their best interests. Therefore, it's
Speaker 8: very difficult for the Nationals to reverse from that position
Speaker 8: and reverse from a pro nuclear stance. So we don't
Speaker 8: want to preempt what the report or the inquiry will find,
Speaker 8: but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes status quo.
Speaker 8: The problem is politically, if you're in a coalition that
Speaker 8: plays as enormous pressure back on those city seats that
Speaker 8: the Liberals need to win in order for the coalition
Speaker 8: to return to power, and that's going to be an
Speaker 8: internal dogfight that I think is going to be a
Speaker 8: very difficult one.
Speaker 2: Well, also as noticing that Susan Lay who is Susan Lee, sorry,
Speaker 2: who is going to be giving an address to the
Speaker 2: Press Club in the next couple of days. Already the
Speaker 2: net zero issue is one that is been demanded to
Speaker 2: be answered in this the early days of a new
Speaker 2: parliamentary term. One would imagine it is not going to
Speaker 2: be resolved anytime soon. But certainly I think that you know,
Speaker 2: if Matt's got the information and you can put the
Speaker 2: information together. We keep being told that information is what's
Speaker 2: able to form opinions. What's wrong with having, as you say, Matt,
Speaker 2: the information that has either been long denied or is
Speaker 2: in a million different places.
Speaker 7: Well, just to take up Darren's point, what I'd like
Speaker 7: to see is that we come to a decision after
Speaker 7: all of this making, making our choice based on what's
Speaker 7: best for our country, not what's best for winning particular seats.
Speaker 7: And I agree with what John Howard said, the best
Speaker 7: politics is usually the best policy.
Speaker 1: So let's focus on that.
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, lads, I do appreciate it. Thank you, Darren,
Speaker 2: Thank you Matt. We'll see you again into the future.
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Speaker 2: all right, let's have a conversation now again about the
Speaker 2: consequences of what's been happening in Iran. Israel as we speak,
Speaker 2: trying to move even further towards regime change, among other things,
Speaker 2: blowing the doors off a notorious prison where many political
Speaker 2: prisoners in Iran have been held. They're also trying to
Speaker 2: knock out many other things to do with the infrastructure
Speaker 2: of the Mullers, the people in charge of the Iranian government,
Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. And of course there are ninety million
Speaker 2: people who live in Iran, the majority of which clearly
Speaker 2: would like to be living under a different form of
Speaker 2: a government. Uron Brook joins us now. He is an author,
Speaker 2: a YouTuber and is with the Iron Ran Institute. He
Speaker 2: joins us now Ran today seems to be a bit
Speaker 2: of a step where we're saying that Israel is now
Speaker 2: openly talking about attacking things to do with the regime.
Speaker 2: Literally in the past two hours, blowing the doors off
Speaker 2: a prison where prisoners have been This is a new stage,
Speaker 2: is it not?
Speaker 9: It definitely is. I mean, they started this a few
Speaker 9: days ago. They were already blowing up police stations. They
Speaker 9: were blowing up particularly regime locations where you know, the
Speaker 9: soldiers or police who who were passed crowds during the
Speaker 9: Goal Revolution a couple of years ago will be. But
Speaker 9: today they're going all out. It looks like they've targeted
Speaker 9: about you know, several dozen locations of one hundred pieces
Speaker 9: of munitions have been dropped just in the last couple
Speaker 9: of hours on various locations in Tehuan. They're focusing primarily
Speaker 9: on the capitol, and it does look like they're taking
Speaker 9: this idea of they probably they figure, I think they've
Speaker 9: got about a week left of bombing anyone, and they're
Speaker 9: going to make this week count towards a regime change
Speaker 9: as much as they can.
Speaker 2: In terms of the tectonic plates of the Middle East?
Speaker 2: Are you surprised to some degree about how impotent Iran
Speaker 2: has been? And again, nobody wants to go them into
Speaker 2: the worst possible scenarios here, but remember for decades, the
Speaker 2: assumption has meant they are in pursuit of a singular
Speaker 2: weapon to be able to punish countries like Israel, but
Speaker 2: presumably with that bigger population, that many people in their army,
Speaker 2: you know, people going hungry because of the monies that
Speaker 2: have been spent on their military, that when they did
Speaker 2: start to launch any offensive towards Israel, that it would
Speaker 2: have more teeth to it. And again to those tectonic
Speaker 2: plates of the countries next to them and those that
Speaker 2: have spoken in support of them. And again we're only
Speaker 2: a couple of days into the next phase of this.
Speaker 2: But those tectonic plates are a little surprising in how
Speaker 2: either little they've moved or little they are in my view.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I have to admit that I am
Speaker 9: not surprised. I've been talking about this for over twenty
Speaker 9: years now. In terms of the fact that you are
Speaker 9: as a relatively easy target.
Speaker 10: It is not a difficult target.
Speaker 9: The reality is that this is an authoritarian regime with
Speaker 9: very little real technology. I mean, look at how dumb
Speaker 9: their bombs are. They can launch simple ballistic missiles up
Speaker 9: into the atmosphere and they land randomly in some place
Speaker 9: in Israel. They can't even target them as compared to
Speaker 9: the precision bombing. The exactness of what Israel is doing,
Speaker 9: and Israel hasn't even used all of its capabilities. This
Speaker 9: is the difference between a theocratic authoritarian regime and a
Speaker 9: free country where people think for themselves and produce and
Speaker 9: create and build, and a country with high tech. So no,
Speaker 9: I always thought that people exaggerated.
Speaker 10: The strength of Iran.
Speaker 9: Yuwon has brute force, it has numbers, it has lots
Speaker 9: of missiles, but it has it does not have the
Speaker 9: technology to be able to win a modern war. I
Speaker 9: mean we're seeing this to some extent in Russia, Ukraine.
Speaker 9: Russia is a lot weaker than people thought. And the
Speaker 9: reason Russia is a lot weaker is because it is
Speaker 9: again in authoritarian state with no real uh you know,
Speaker 9: technological innovation, with not an entrepreneurial class, without the kind
Speaker 9: of the kind of development that you need in order
Speaker 9: to build a modern, successful military. Israel has that, the
Speaker 9: United States has that, and maybe maybe to some extent,
Speaker 9: China has that, but pretty much everybody else in the
Speaker 9: world today is pretty weak.
Speaker 2: What do you expect out of the conversations that are
Speaker 2: being had right now by the Iranian foreign minister and Russia.
Speaker 10: I think nothing Russia.
Speaker 9: Russia does not have the resources, does not want to
Speaker 9: get itself immersed in the Middle East, It does not
Speaker 9: want to conflict with Israel. Conflict with Israel will just
Speaker 9: show even more to the world how weak their weapons
Speaker 9: systems are. They still export some weapon systems, although who
Speaker 9: buys them I don't know.
Speaker 10: Anymore. And you know, a lot of the Oligocks.
Speaker 9: Remember a lot of the Oligocks surround Putin have homes
Speaker 9: in Israel. Many of them are Jewish, many of them,
Speaker 9: you know, have family in Israel. He does not want
Speaker 9: to be in a position where he is attacking Israel.
Speaker 9: He can attack it verbally, but he would not. He
Speaker 9: will not do anything militarily. They'll do something symbolic to
Speaker 9: help the Iranians. But I do not expect, you know,
Speaker 9: Russia to get involved again. The whole exaggeration about World
Speaker 9: War II three, assuming the Bricks had any real power
Speaker 9: or willingness to come to the aid of you on,
Speaker 9: has always been ridiculous in my view. So no, I
Speaker 9: think nothing will come of this. And this is another
Speaker 9: desperate act of the Unian regime to somehow stay in power.
Speaker 9: They realize that the focus now is on regime change,
Speaker 9: and they're desperate to try to find somebody who will
Speaker 9: help them out.
Speaker 2: Now we know they're going to be speaking in Boston
Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks. But how do people
Speaker 2: keep an eye on what you're doing? Where do they
Speaker 2: find you on YouTube? How do people follow what you do?
Speaker 9: Well, just put my name on YouTube. It's pretty easy,
Speaker 9: but I do have a website. You're on Brooks Show
Speaker 9: All one word dot com and yeah, I speak all
Speaker 9: over the world on a regular basis and hope people
Speaker 9: follow me.
Speaker 2: They will. Thank you mate, get on you, You're on
Speaker 2: all the best. We'll talk to you Ryan Garry soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on brook again. Finding on YouTube lots
Speaker 2: of good and fascinating conversations EIC Quick break Back with More,
Speaker 2: Hit of the Light, to Bag with the Birthday Boy,
Speaker 2: among others. Joe Hildebrand One Today more Honest Again. One
Speaker 2: of the joys of being where we are is that
Speaker 2: we can turn our attention away from some of the
Speaker 2: big international stuff and just focus on what is happening
Speaker 2: in little old here in surprise, prise winter, it's cold.
Speaker 2: This particular winter, yes, does seem to be particularly cold.
Speaker 2: Insert greens carrying on at a moment or two is time,
Speaker 2: But what about this? In the past couple of days,
Speaker 2: parts of Australia were colder than Antarctica, literally colder than
Speaker 2: Antarctica and which place specifically, as Australians woke to one
Speaker 2: of their coldest mornings in over twenty five years, the
Speaker 2: beautiful city to the south of Sydney, a little north
Speaker 2: of camberc Golben. In Golben, the temperature reached a freezing
Speaker 2: minus ten degrees this morning. That being sunder, it was
Speaker 2: colder than the Devas station in Antarctica, which the same
Speaker 2: night had hit just minus eight and a half degrees. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know whether this is going to be something
Speaker 2: that's you know, your local realistic agent is going to say,
Speaker 2: come to gold and it's cold on the Antarctica. It's
Speaker 2: certainly more fun and there's more people there. It's got
Speaker 2: a wonderful macus that many people drop in on in
Speaker 2: and out of, including some who might be on their
Speaker 2: way to or from Canberra. But why is it so cold?
Speaker 2: And what happens in the next couple of days, Well,
Speaker 2: the joy of this joint is we've got an entire
Speaker 2: thing called sky News Weather twenty four to seven looking
Speaker 2: at what's happening with the.
Speaker 10: Weather Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 3: That's really when that drop is going to be moving
Speaker 3: in and the big change that's going to be happening
Speaker 3: here they have that next call front moving in and
Speaker 3: again this is going to be when we see the
Speaker 3: chance for snowfall pushing in.
Speaker 2: All right, so particularly for those that are making the
Speaker 2: most of what are going to be school holidays in
Speaker 2: just a weeken if it's time, depending on whether your
Speaker 2: public and private and Queensland and you said, you get
Speaker 2: the point. This is always the problem soon as you
Speaker 2: start to say things like happy school holidays, hope everyone's
Speaker 2: enjoying their school holiday. So not where I'm living, Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it, I understand. I understand now. That special
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Speaker 2: wonderful Joe Hilda brand Well, it's a big birthday for him,
Speaker 2: a very big one, one worth celebrating for a long
Speaker 2: period of time to come. In fact, I think that
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